"EVERY COVENANT CHILD OF GOD PAYS TITHE. HOWEVER IT DEPENDS ON TO WHO YOU PAY IT TO - WHETHER TO GOD OR TO THE DEVIL."

" WHEN YOU DON'T TITHE YOUR LIFE WILL BE TIGHT".

Surely you pay tithe directly or indirectly whether to GOD or to the devil. When the devourer is at work in your life as a result of not paying your tithe - through much hospital bill, unexplained and unjustified expenses etc -surely you are paying tithe.

Beware of satanists and people who desire to be antichrist,

The MOG pastor Chris, when some other lazy MOG are busy eating with their ten fingers pastor Chris has gone to the mountain for 40 days prayer and fasting. After paying the price and the power and the glory of GOD rests upon him with divers signs and wonders people will still turn around to criticize him. Ride on pastor Chris, heaven is your starting point. When you come down from the mountain, many that are bound by the devil of which many are in this forum could be delivered.

KunleOshob:

@snowwy
My position on tithes is based on sound untwisted biblical facts, try justing your position on tithes without twisting scriptures and adjusting it to suit the greedy desires of the promoters of these mordern day version of tithing which is different from the biblical one that was not even directed to christians. I reteriate that the mordern day tithes being preached today is a monumental fraud and is NOT the will of God for christians as it was arrived at by twisting and adding to God's word.

@kunle, What Biblical verses support what you are saying?. The BIBLE still remain the final authority as far as the issue of tithing is concerned. You don't know the meaning of tithe and that is why you are confused and go about confusing others. As i told garyanorld, you don't have adequate understanding on the issue of tithing even though they call you tithe master. That you don't believe tithing does not make tithe not scriptural. That some modern day MOG without adequate understanding are abusing tithing DOES NOT IN ANY WAY REVERSE THE TRUTH ABOUT TITHE.
You said that tithe is not directed to Christians. Who is it directed to ? Tithing started before the nation of Israel was formed. So tell me from the Bible not what you think or any person thinks.

@ garyarnold,

Your problem hinges on your limited understanding of the mystery of tithing. You, some how behave like Apollos in the Bible as recorded in Acts 18 vs. 24-28. Apollos was sincere and fervent in his teaching of the word of GOD, THOUGH he knew only the baptism of John. But thank GOD for Aquila and Priscilla who took him aside and guided him or explained to him the way of the GOD more accurately.

You may be sincere in all you are saying based on your limited understanding of the mystery of tithing. I assure you that if you are sincere and open more to GOD, your limited understanding concerning tithing will be enlarged.

As I pointed out earlier, the Bible and what it says is our authority and standard on any spiritual matters and that should form the bed rock of our argument. Moreover, the standing point to understanding tithing is to understand tithe in its true meaning. And Genesis 28 vs. 20 - 22 and Genesis 14 vs. 18-20 are our anchor scripture and authentic definition and meaning of tithe. I wonder why you are afraid of the truth. If not why are you avoiding Genesis 28 vs. 20-22 in your argument? Please kindly explain Genesis 28 vs. 20- 22 for us.

You talked much about Abraham and the tithe he paid In Genesis 14 vs. 14-20. Understanding Genesis 14 vs. 18 to 20 will confirm Genesis 28 vs. 20 to 22. Abraham paid tithe of ALL. What constitute the war spoil that Abraham paid tithe from? Definitely it is not cattle or farm crops alone as they don’t carry such to battle. We are told Abraham paid tithe of ALL.What does it means to pay tithe of all? It means Abraham paid tithe from the totality of what he realized from war spoils. “All you shall give me I will surely give the tenth or tithe to you.”

Tithe started with our covenant fathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. So what they said concerning tithe should guide us in understanding the truth about tithe. You can never say any thing meaningful without reference to the truth on GENESIS 28 VS. 20 TO 22.

@ Christians in NL,
loveking in another post said that he wants to be antichrist . A satanist trying to tell us something about anointed MOG. To aspire to be antichrist shows that he already posses the spirit of the devil and it is the spirit of satan that motivated him to write that post about MOG.

@love king,
No wonder,you are satanist that is why you posted the thread about Adeboye, Oyedepo, and Oyak. May GOD have mercy on your soul. May be as you go deeeeeeepeeeerrrrr in serving the devil he may find you fit to appoint you an antichrist. As antichrist is doomed for destruction so are you.

KunleOshob:

Unfortunately most people that claim to be born again [including their pastors] don't even know what it means to be born again.

Kunle, it will be wise if you can explain to us what it means to be born again.

Jen33:

These born again people don't actually understand the meaning of spirituality. They mistake this their ''Jesus, Jesus'' business for spirituality. Their focus should be on their conduct towards other expressions of life on this earth - humans, animals, and the earth itself. Instead, they waste all their time ''loving Jesus'' who they cannot se

@jen33,
My dear jen33, many are in this forum to interact and learn new thing. May you kindly explain to us the full meaning of spirituality and what one should do to be spiritual.

@poster,
Will you call that a post. By the way it seems that you are a satanist?. Be warned and advised,by opening your mouth wide to mention the names of these MOG you have condemned your self already. Learn to mind your own business and leave MOG alone unless you are a devil"s agent and doing what the devil want you. These verses of the Bible you mentioned kindly point out one fact that connects these MOG to it.

Demain_man:

Modern day tithers are fools. Tithe collectors are thieves aka rogues aka 419s = conmen pastors. Hell fire awaits them.

My dear, what actually are the basis for your comment? Your comment should be with facts not just say something for saying sake otherwise keep your mouth shot if you don't understand what is been discussed.

I am surprised that people still go about in this forum babbling on the issue of tithe and tithing. Raw Biblical truth was presented on Basic truth you need to know about tithe and tithing. But those who are afraid of the truth who are confused still. goes about to confuse others on the issue tithe. May GOD HAVE MERCY.

yommyuk:

Christian giving or tithing should not be the following;

1. Used as a way of raising church funds
2. Using psychological manupulative means of extracting funds for church members
3. Tithes card holders for social approval
4. Quoting scriptures as a means of intimidating people to tithe.
5 Should not be taken under compulsion
6. Mandated percentages

The purpose of giving should be to glorify God for his provision. God is glorified only when His all-glorious character is being expressed within
His creation.

Should we expect a return for our giving? why not!

Matthew 6:4 promises us that when we give to the Lord in private, the Father who sees everything will rewards us. How?

The "return" on our giving would be the  fullness of blessing we have in Jesus Christ, and the joy of being vessels through whom
God is working and fulfilling His intent.

    When the use of a thing is not known abuse is inevitable .Tithe in the mind of GOD is never an avenue to raise church fund but to express our gratitude and appreciation to GOD for giving us the resources. That ignorant MOG has turned it into fund raising avenue is unfortunate.But that does not change the meaning and idea of tithing. Moreover, in tithing what matters most is the heart with which you give not as a legalistic approach which many churches has turn tithe into. Churches and MOG who has correct knowledge about tithe took time to teach their members never coerce or cajole their members to pay tithe yet millions are realized every Sunday.

garyarnold:

I don't attend a Baptist church.  I just gave that as an example.

You seem to be injecting Malachi into your arguments - getting blessed for tithing and cursed if you don't.

You are trying to BUY God's favor.

Jesus already paid the price IN FULL.  God will bless who He wants, when He wants, and forever reason He wants.

There are so many examples of lifetime tithers that have nothing but financial problems.  I don't tithe, but have been blessed financially beyond my wildest dreams and in many other ways.  But I am a generous giver.

You aren't following Abraham's example of giving a tenth of war spoils and keeping nothing for yourself.  You aren't following any of the three tithes commanded by God.  But you ARE following what man came up with around 1870.

    As i pointed earlier the Bible is our standard and the book of Malachi is in the Bible. So if GOD said something in Malachi it is settled and must be used whether you believe it or not. If GOD said do this, we must do it or otherwise it is a disobedience before GOD.  
    Yes there are many tithers that are in financial mess.Tithe is never a means of bribing GOD AND MUST BE GIVEN IN RIGHTEOUSNESS.Moreover some think they are tithing by giving any amount. Tithe is not any amount but 10% of your income. Anything less renders tithe invalid and unacceptable before GOD. Those you gave as example of people who tithe and are in financial mess should ask themselves whether they are paying their tithe CORRECTLY and with their heart not to register their name in tithe register which many churches maintain or to please their pastors.
     You don't pay tithe and feel you are blessed.What about atheists who are wealthy? Remember in the Bible, Cain and Abel all offered offering to GOD but one was accepted and the other was not. The Bible IS STILL THE FINAL STANDARD ON ISSUE CONCERNING TITHE not what we think or anybody else. All am saying is that your not believing in tithe or paying tithe does not make tithe wrong. So stop distorting the truth about TITHE.

The basis of our discuss is not what the Baptist theologians or what any body believes but what the Bible is saying.We are free to believe anything, however, our believe or not believing on an issue does not make it or determine what is correct or wrong. Let GOD be true and all men lairs.The Bible is our standard and the truth of the Bible is our standard and the basis of our faith.
Covenant people who KNOW their GOD are faithfully paying their tithe and are equally enjoying the blessing that goes with it. Others are mocking it and are paying dearly for it because the devourer are at work . Only fools doubts proof.Those who are faithful in their tithe obligation have proof to show for their obedience.
Moreover, that you are not paying tithe has it any effect on the kingdom? No! no! no!. Your paying tithe or not paying does not benefit any body but yourself. Having said that do stop distorting the truth about tithe simply because your baptist church does not believe on it or that you don't believe on it.

@garyarnold,
As I said some where I am glad you do read Bible. However I must remind you that the Bible is a Spiritual book and not an ordinary literature book. It therefore takes the presence of the Holy Spirit to understand the content thereof. That is why the Bible said in 2 Cor. 3: 6, “Who hath made us able ministers of the new testament, not of the letter but of the Spirit: for the letter killeth, but the Spirit giveth life.”

Coming to the topic of our discuss- TITHE, I wish to remark that your major problem is that you already have a mind set on the issue of tithe. You thought you know all about tithe while as you are totally wrong in your approach and interpretation thereby distorting the truth about tithe. I wish that you open your mind to new ideas, knowledge on the subject of tithe and tithing 

The first issue is to look at the meaning of tithe. From what you said in my thread “basic truth you need to know about tithe and tithing” you defined tithe based on Leviticus 30 as if tithe started in Leviticus. My dear, tithe did not start in Leviticus but in Genesis. Tithing was in operation in Genesis before the law came into force in Exodus. That is our covenant fathers (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob) operated tithe in Genesis before the law came into existence (see Genesis 14 vs. 20 and Genesis 28 vs. 22. In Genesis our covenant father Jacob defined what tithe is (meaning of tithe) for us which SHOULD SERVE AS THE BASIS OF ANY TRUE DEFINITION OF TITHE “All that thou shall give me I will SURELY give one tenth (tithe) unto thee”.

The issue of tithe was in operation in Genesis while as in Exodus the law came into force. In Leviticus 30 your reference scripture the children of Israel was defaulting in their covenant obligation of tithe, vows and offering. They were not paying correct tithe they should be paying and that is why GOD has to remind them what their tithe should be. Please read the entire chapter of Leviticus 30. The same thing still happens today as some people still pretend as they don’t know how to determine their tithe. For avoidance of doubt, Genesis 28 vs. 22 is the authentic and true definition of tithe, “ALL THAT YOU SHALL GIVE ME I WILL SURELY GIVE ONE TENTH (TITHE) TO YOU”.
Another issue that needs more emphasis is who tithe should be directed to? Still Genesis 28 vs. 22 gives us the answer, “All that you shall give me I will surely one tenth (tithe) UNTO THEE.” That is tithe should be directed to GOD not to man, priest, Levites, Prophets or any MOG. However, Priests (MOG) by reason of their service are to collect the tithe from the hand of the people of GOD.

The next issue that needs to be emphasized is WHO SHOULD PAY TITHE? As I said earlier, Tithe is a covenant obligation by covenant people. Many people are paying tithe without having a covenant relationship with GOD as a result, they are not getting the required covenant benefits that goes with tithe. YOU MUST ENTER INTO COVENANT WITH GOD BEFORE YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO PAY TITHE.

@garyarnold,
Meet you again on tithe and tithing -matters arising

I am glad you do read Bible, however your problem is that you have a mind set on the issue of tithe.I don't wish to say anything again on this thread. We will engage this discussion on another thread. So watch out for the thread " TITHE AND TITHING MATTERS ARISING".

garyarnold:

As soon as you use Malachi in your argument, you have lost the argument because Malachi is referring to God's commands to tithe.

In Malachi 3:7 God refers to His ORDINANCES. Now, before you go any further, you must be able to identify exactly which ordinances God was referring to. Otherwise, you don't understand what God is talking about.

His ORDINANCES referred to in Malachi 3:7 are contained in Numbers 18. Those ordinances are the ONLY tithe where any part of it went to the storehouse.

Hebrews 7:18 disannulls Numbers 18. Otherwise, we would still be under the Levitical priesthood.

IF tithing has been established with Abraham giving a tenth of WAR SPOILS, and keeping NOTHING for himself, then Jacob would not have put conditions on God to meet BEFORE Jacob would give a tenth, and there is NO scripture to show that Jacob ever, in fact, gave a tenth of anything.

NO ONE is following Abraham's example today.

Just another failed attempt to try to justify the tithing lie.

My dear, you are totally confused and that is why you are confusing others. Malachi is not a command to tithe, Malachi is but GOD'S rebuke on ISRAEL for not keeping to their covenant obligation of tithing. That is why HE TOLD THEM TO RETURN.
Moreover you need to know the meaning of tithe in the first place before you begin to talk about tithe. From all you are saying you are still ignorance of the meaning of tithe and the essence. Tithe is not to the Levite but to GOD though GOD decided to allow levite to partake from tithe because they have no inheritance in ISRAEL.

@ kunle,
My dear kunle, i don't have any thing against you or anyone in this forum. All i request from you is try to have an open mind that will enable you to be receptive to new information and knowledge about tithe. That will surely correct the error you have about tithe.

Oh! what a prize. A good solid 40 days of fasting. No wonder the fantastic miracles that takes place when he ministers.Ride on pastor Chris and may GOD strengthen you on that mountain, we are praying for you.

Faith is very important as believers in our walk with the LORD. No wonder the Bible said in Hebrew 11 vs. 6 that without faith that it is impossible to please God. According to Dr. Fred. K.C. Price, “Faith is the key that unlocks the treasure chest of heaven. Faith is the key that moves the hand of the Almighty. Faith is the key by which you can obtain the desires of your heart. Faith is that which pleases God.”

I will be sharing with you the summary of the above book by Dr. Fred. K.C.Price.
PRINCIPLE NUMBER ONE: You must know the Reality of the Word of GOD. God’s word is Spirit; God’s Word is life. You must get into the Word; continue in the Word; devour it; get it down into your spirit, so that you may know the living reality of God’s Word.

PRINCIPLE NUMBER TWO: You must Know the Reality of your Redemption in Christ. You must know that you have been redeemed. You are not going to be redeemed. You are not in the process of being redeemed, but the Bible tells you that (if you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior) you have been redeemed.

PRINCIPLE NUMBER THREE: You must know the Reality of the New Creation. As a Christian, being born by the Spirit of God, you are a new creature in Christ Jesus. God views you as a brand new individual.

PRINCIPLE NUMBER FOUR: You must know the Reality of your Righteousness in Christ. You don’t have to do any thing to get righteous. You are righteous in Christ.

PRINCIPLE NUMBER FIVE: You must know the Reality of the indwelling Spirit: God dwells in man by His Spirit. The Holy Spirit dells in man to give him the supernatural power so that man can be a 24-hour-a-day over comer.

FINALLY PRINCIPLES NUMBER SIX: You must know the Reality of the Authority of the Name of JESUS. You must KNOW that there is authority in that NAME OF JESUS. You must know it as a reality. You must know it, not as an idea, not as a philosophy, not as a hope , not as a dream, but YOU MUST KNOW THAT NAME AS AN ACTUAL , LIVING , VITAL REALITY. You must know the Reality of the authority of the name of Jesus Christ.

Another classic on Faith by the same Author is “HOW FAITH WORKS. Try to get the above books and read and it will surely be a great blessing to you.

The book of Daniel chapter 11 vs. 32 made a great statement, “ Those who do wickedly against the covenant He shall corrupt with flattery; BUT THE PEOPLE WHO KNEW THEIR GOD SHALL BE STRONG , AND CARRY OUT GREAT EXPLOITS.

The question is “Are you among those who do wickedly against the covenant “, or among those who knew their GOD? It is very important that we strive to know our GOD. The above verse said what will happen to those who knew their GOD. First they will be strong- Are you strong in Faith? If you are not strong in Faith it means that your knowledge of GOD is lacking or is very weak. But that could change as you can increase your knowledge of the Word of GOD there by increasing your knowledge of GOD.

The second thing that will happen is that they will be in position to carry out great exploits. Show me a man or woman that is carrying out great exploits for the kingdom and I will show you a man or women that really know GOD. We can seek to know GOD by doing things that could enable us have divine encounter with GOD things like having intimate fellowship with GOD in studying the Bible, praying and fasting as well as evangelism. Try that this year and see how you will grow in you knowledge of GOD that will enable you carry out great exploits.

To Christians in Naira land forum, greetings. I appreciate GOD the Almighty for His love and mercies toward us in keeping and preserving us to cross over from 2010 to see the year 2011.To Him alone be all the glory.
I will start this letter by first and foremost exhorting you like Paul to contend earnestly for the faith which was once delivered to the saints – (Jude vs. 3).
Moreover, first Timothy Paul equally exhorts us to fight the good fight of faith, and lay hold of eternal life……
Having said that I wish to remind us that, going by the prophecies by many MOG this year 2011 is a year of advancement by the people of GOD. However this advancement will never come in a platter of gold as there are great prices to pay-price of dedication to GOD. We should endeavor not to be lazy this year in our study of the Bible and other anointed materials to enable us posses our possession. I said this because many Christians these days are so lazy that they don’t know their left from their right. That is why 2 Timothy 2 vs. 15 exhorts to study to show ourselves approved unto GOD a work man that needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
To this end I wish equally wish to remind you of Great War going on in this forum- WAR AGAINST THE TRUTH. You people knew that in this forum there are many atheists, occult members, satan’s worshippers and others. These are all against the truth as the Bible said of the devil in John 8:44 “he did not remain in the truth because there is no truth in him”. In other words if you don’t know the truth yourself you could be captured by the lies of the devil.
By been enemies of the truth they go at any length to distort the truth so that unguided will not know the truth. So beware! The Bible said you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. But the truth that shall set you free is the one you know and that is why you should create quality time to study, seek the truth for only in doing so shall you find the truth.

KunleOshob:

What a load of crap All this unintelligible rants just to prove that tithes preaching is not a scam, well sorry the truth is already out people are beginning to see it as the fraud it is.

@kunle, I know you will say that ,i am beginning to wonder if you are among the satan's worshippers?. I said this because the way and manner you distort various biblical truth and attack various men of GOD does not potray someone that knew GOD at all. Anyway for the sake of our members who desire to know the truth i challenge you, "LET US ENGAGE IN A DISCUSSION BY LOOKING AT THE ABOVE TOPIC X-RAYING ONE BY ONE EACH POINTS TO PROVE WHO IS ACTUALLY SAYING THE TRUTH."
Kunle i assure you, your mission of distorting the truth in this forum to prevent people from knowing the truth will fail this time around.

I have been saying it, one of the great tragedies of religion section of Naira Land Forum is that some religious ignoramus and vagabonds, self professed atheists and satanic worshippers are distorting Biblical Truth and posting such obnoxious materials before the public.
One of such posting are on tithing. Therefore I am not trying to argue over this topic with them but to PRESENT TO YOU THE REAL BIBLICAL MEANING AND TRUTH OF TITHING. So if you are sincere and wish to know the real truth about tithing then follow me step by step as we X-ray this subject matter and what the Bible said about it. I pray that your eyes of understanding could be opened as you read this write up. With due respect to KunleOshob and Igbogolo and co, I wish that they could take time and read down the line and allow the Holy Spirit to teach them new things in addition to what they thought they knew about tithing. Many people including many MOG are ignorant of the meaning and essence of tithing that is why they view tithe as avenue to raise money and put food on their table and clothes on their body. I will equally start by quoting John chapter 8:32 “And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free”. I want you to ponder over this, “the only way truth shall be able to set you free is if and only if you KNOW the truth”. What you don’t know you will never practice and what you don’t practice will never profit you. Ask yourself, what is TRUTH and what happens when what you earlier knew and held and practiced as the truth are nothing but half truth or lies from the devil?. My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. You will never know the truth which you don’t seek to know and it is my prayer that GOD will destroy your ignorance permanently so that you move forward in pursuit of your destiny. Forget about what you thought you knew about tithe and put aside your mind set about my person. I am presenting to you the raw truth. The issue of tithe should never be the subject of our vote, but rather is what you need to fully understand and be fully persuaded in your life. You should never pay or not pay tithe based on popular or minority votes.
Having said that, I wish to point out again that tithing is one of the pillar upon which kingdom prosperity stands upon, that is, tithing is one of the spiritual key to access kingdom prosperity. The devil knew this very well and that is why he is using his agents and followers to distort the real truth about it. His plan and essence is to prevent people from having the real understanding about tithe as not to practice it. Those who knew and had correct knowledge and understanding about tithe never joke with it and are enjoying the blessings that go with it. While those who don’t have the understanding are busy making mockery of tithing and equally talking and writing against it. It is therefore a matter of who you choose to believe his report, whether the report of GOD or the report of the devil.
Coming to the subject matter of tithing, we shall seek to understand it by looking at it under the following major headings: (1) What is tithe or tithing and when did tithing started in the Bible? Is tithing a law or commandment?
(2) Who should pay tithe and where should we pay tithe? Is tithing for us today?
(3) Does tithing involve only money?
(4) Does men of GOD suppose to pay tithe?
(5) Finally we shall equally look at the principles and practice of tithing both in the Bible and today.
(1) WHAT IS TITHING AND WHEN DID THE ISSUE OF TITHING START IN THE BIBLE? Until you have a correct knowledge and understanding about tithe and equally views tithe in its correct perceptive, you may end up wasting your resources in the name of paying tithe. Tithe or Tithing first appeared in the Bible in Genesis 14:20-22 .Here we are told that Abraham gave Melchizedek tithe of all. And in GENESIS 28:22 Jacob defined what tithe is all about from the vow he made to GOD, “And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be GOD’S house and all that you give me I will SURELY GIVE a tenth to you.”. So we see from the above scriptures that tithe or tithing started in the book of Genesis even before the law was given or before the law came into force in EXODUS, This means that tithing existed before the law was given and is therefore not a law or commandment.
Having seen that tithing is not a law or commandment, what then is the spiritual meaning and essence of tithing? Tithing is simply a covenant obligation which those in the covenant practices TO APPRECIATE GOD AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE RESOURCES THAT THEY ARE PAYING TITHE FROM CAME FROM GOD, “and all that you give me , I will surely give a tenth to you” ( Genesis 28:22). In other words tithing is about the covenant or is rooted in the covenant relationship with GOD. That means that when you pay your tithe you are simply expressing your dependence on GOD and is telling GOD that you ACKNOWLEDGE that HE is the ONE that gave you the resources or the power to get the wealth or resources in which the tithe is been paid from. That is to say paying tithe is but expressing your total dependency on GOD and acknowledgement of HIM as the sources of the resources you are paying tithe from. Those who are not paying tithe are simply saying in their heart, “My power and the might of my hand have gained me this wealth.” (DEUT.:8:17)While when you pay tithe you are saying or remembering the LORD your GOD, for it is He who gives you power to get the wealth, that He may establish His covenant which He swore to your father as it is this day.” (DEUT.8:18) Simply put it or illustrate it: Paying tithe is just like you buying a packet of biscuit for your boy and as your boy opened the packet to eat it you requested from him to give you one piece of biscuit from the packet of ten. How do you feel if the boy refuses to give you or decide to give you half instead of one full? You didn’t request from the boy to give you not that you are hungry or want to eat his biscuit but you want to prove what is in the heart of the boy. In other words GOD is not demanding tithe from you not that He is hungry or in need of your money or resources but that He may prove what is in your heart, whether you acknowledge Him as the source of that resource from which He is demanding tithe payment from. One thing that is worth to mention is that tithing is never in the mind of GOD as an avenue to raise money or to put food on the table for ministers as many hungry pastors has bastardized it. It is highly unfortunate and that is why you always see such ignorant, lazy and hungry pastors always on the pulpit begging their members to pay tithe. Tithe payment must flow from one’s heart voluntarily in appreciation and acknowledgment of GOD not that one is coerced or compelled to do so. No one who has correct understanding of tithe could ever be pleaded to pay ones tithe.

(2) WHO SHOULD PAY TITHE? IS THITHING FOR US TODAY? Having seen that tithing is not a law or commandment a voluntary covenant obligation that those in the covenant practices to appreciate GOD. It means that tithing is only for those who are in the covenant i.e. covenant people of GOD and not for everybody. That is why in the old covenant GOD expected only His covenant people Israel to tithe not from the gentiles. Who are those in the covenant? Those in the covenant are the spiritual Israel and the physical Israel. The physical Israel are the Jews while the spiritual Israel are the born again Christians. So if you are not in the covenant never bother to waste you money in the name of paying tithe as GOD is not expecting tithe from your hand. In other words if you are in the covenant and you are not paying tithe because those not in the covenant are talking against it and making mockery of it, you are living a risky and dangerous life and you need to repent. That is to say you must be one of those in the covenant to qualify to pay tithe in other to reap the benefits that goes with tithing. It then means that so far GOD’S covenant still exist and so far we still maintain covenant relationship with GOD the tithing is for us today. As I said earlier tithing is never an avenue to put food on the table for your pastor (even though pastors could benefit from tithe payment). Therefore if you are viewing tithe as money you are giving to MOG or your pastors you are wrong and you can never reap the benefit that goes with tithing,
For emphasis and to answer the question as to whether tithe is for us today, it is necessary to ask yourself this question: Since tithe is rooted in covenant relationship with GOD, the question is “DOES GOD STILL HAS A COVENANT RELATIONSHIP WITH US TODAY? If the answer is “no” then we have nothing to do with tithing, but if “yes” then tithing is for us today. The next question to answer yourself is; DO YOU HAVE A COVENANT RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD?

(3) WHERE SHOULD WE PAY TITHE? Again Genesis 28:22 gave us the answer, “And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be GOD’S HOUSE, and of all that you give me I will surely give a tenth to you.” So we are to pay tithe into the house of GOD, see also Malachi 3:10.We are never to give our tithe to any MOG or pastor but paid into the house of GOD. The next thing to consider is what happens after paying our tithe? I must point out that one of the ways the devil try to rob many of the benefit or blessing that goes with tithing is our trying to poke nose into the way and manner tithe paid are used in the house of GOD i.e. they try to know what happens to the tithe they paid, and by so doing the devil corrupt their mind by telling them that the pastor is using their tithe for their private or personal benefits. This is a wrong perceptive of tithing. Since it is not to the pastor you paid tithe to but to GOD, you should remove your mind as to how it is used or misused, It is GOD that will punish the person that misuses GOD’S tithe and not you. All you know is that you have performed your covenant obligation and should expect the reward or blessing that goes with it from GOD.

(4) DOES TITHING ONLY INVOLVE MONEY? No tithing does not involve only money .We are to tithe from the resources that came our way, whether from farm crops, if you are a crop farmer or from animal if you are an animal farmer or from the fruits from our farm. See the definition of tithe again in Genesis 28:22, “ And this stone which I have set as a pillar shall be GOD’S house and ALL THAT YOU GIVE ME I WILL SURELY GIVE TENTH TO YOU”. However, money issue came into picture in tithing in DEUT. 14:22-29. Here GOD gave the instruction that resources mentioned above (animals, crops, wine, fruits etc) could be exchanged for money see verse25. That is to say a farmer is free to pay tithe from the physical items from his or her farm such as chicken or live animals, crops or fruits etc. But if he sells those items, he could pay tithe of money proceeds from the sells.i.e.from what he realized from the sales. Many farmers prefer to pay tithe of money because it is easy to calculate tithe from money proceeds. For example, a farmer who has four ram from his farm, how do you expect him to pay tithe of live ram from that four collection? But if he sells the four rams he could pay tithe from the proceeds from the sells.

(5) DOES MEN OF GOD SUPPOSE TO PAY TITHE? The answer is capital YES, MOG should be the first to pay tithe. Any MOG who does not pay tithe suffers the same fate if not more than lay people that are not paying tithe. Today ask any successful MOG and they will reveal to you that one of their secrets of success is rooted in their faithfulness in their tithe obligations. Some of them that understand the secret covenant of tithing pay more than 10% of the resources that comes their way as tithe. However ignorant pastors who don’t understand the meaning of tithe, who don’t pay tithe themselves because they view tithe as a means of raising money to keep food on their table. Such pastors are always seen struggling begging their members to pay their tithe. See Numbers 18:25-28; Nehemiah 10:38

USES OF TITHE: In the Bible GOD commanded on how proceeds from tithe should be used:
The first reason GOD demanded His covenant people to pay tithe is that there be meat in the house of GOD ( Malachi 3:10)
The second reason or uses of tithe is to maintain the Levites(MOG).Resources from tithe could be used to pay the salaries of MOG as well as their other welfare needs. Numbers 18:28; DEUT, 12:17-19; DEUT. 14:22-29; 2CHR.31:5-10; NEHEMIAH 12:44; 13: 12
The third uses are to take care of the fatherless, strangers, and widowers etc., see DEUT. 26:13

FINALLY PRINCIPLES AND PRACTICE OF TITHING IN THE BIBLE AND TODAY{OR TERMS OF THE COVENANT OF TITHING}
Tithing as a covenant practice has a laid down rules or terms governing it. You must abide or fulfill the terms of the covenant before you can reap the benefit or blessing that goes with it.
The first principle is that you must be qualified to pay tithe (you must be in the covenant, you must be born again).Those who have no covenant relationship with GOD are not expected or required to pay tithe. So the first thing GOD expects from you before you start to pay tithe is to enter into a covenant relationship with HIM-get born again.
Secondly tithing must be paid correctly and from the dept of your heart not as if you are been forced or compelled to do so. Some ignorantly use number six (natural reasoning) in treating tithe matter. As a result, they just give any thing as tithe. For emphasis, tithe is not just any amount; it must be 10% of the resources that comes your way. The principle is that you must be faithful to compute your tithe obligation correctly before GOD can accept it and bless you back. Remember GOD is not in need or a beggar. HE knows the resources that came your way and the tithe you suppose to pay. (Remember the offering of CAIN and ABEL in Genesis!)
I wish to point out that one need to be very careful in dealing with tithe issue so that the devil will not rob us the benefit of tithing by refusing to tithe simply because some so called MOG are abusing proceeds of tithing. Yes it is true some lazy and ignorant and self appointed MOG are abusing tithe payment. They are ignorant of the meaning and essence of tithe that is why they view tithe as avenue to raise money and put food on their table. You will see and know such MOG by their constant coercing and begging their members to pay their tithe. For emphasis tithe payment must never be coerced, forced or begged for. It must flow or paid willingly or it will not be accepted. by GOD.

WHAT HAPPENS IF I DON’T PAY MY TITHE? Before looking at what happens if I don’t pay my tithe, let us look at what happens if I faithfully pay my tithe; The answer is in MALACHI Chapter 3 verses 10 to 12: (1) First GOD said HE will open the windows of heaven and pour you a blessing……, ”
(2) Secondly, GOD said HE will rebuke the devourer for your sakes, and he shall not destroy the fruits of your grounds…, ”
In other words, if you don’t pay your tithe, you will never enjoy the full blessings GOD in your life. Secondly you will continue to suffer under the bondage of the devourer.

MALACHI CHAPTER 3 VERSES 8 TO 12
It is important to look at Malachi 3: 8 – 12. These verses are so miss understood and misinterpreted even by many MOG .Some lazy and ignorant pastors use the above portion of the Bible to coerce their members to part with their resources in the name of paying tithe. The reason is that the view tithing as an avenue to raise money and put food on their table. This is totally a wrong interpretation and view of Malachi 3:8 -12.
It is necessary to read that book of Malachi 3 from verses one to the end (Malachi 3:1 – end) you will see that GOD was trying to rebuke HIS people Israel through prophet Malachi for their defrauding or not keeping to their covenant duties or covenant obligations of tithe and offerings.
Some earlier writers like Kunleoshob and Igbogolo and co, were trying to interpret Malachi 3:8-12 for us using Numbers 18: 25-28. This is totally false and wrong interpretation. I am not saying this to undermine or belittle their write-up because they may be sincere in what they wrote as their writing WAS BASED ON THEIR LIMITED UNDERSTANDING OF TITHING.
In their write-up they were trying to prove to us that the rebuke of Malachi 3:8-12 was directed to the LEVITES and not to the whole ISRAEL, This is not true;In Malachi 3 GOD was rebuking the entire Israel and not the Levites alone. Let us look at Malachi chapter 3 from vs. 1 closely for proper understanding of the chapter vs. 1 “Behold I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and the Lord whom ye seek shall suddenly come to His temple, EVEN THE MESSENGER OF THE COVENANT, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts , ” From vs 1 to vs 5, Malachi was referring to a messenger of the covenant that GOD said will come to direct the people of Israel back to their covenant duties and obligations and what the messenger shall do on his appearing. Let us look at verse 6, “For I am LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.” When GOD said ye sons of Jacob, is HE referring to Levites alone or the whole sons of Jacob (Israel)? Verse 7 “ Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from ordinances(covenant obligations) and have not kept them, Return unto me , and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of Hosts, But ye said, wherein shall we return,,,”? Is this verse referring to the Levites alone or is it not directed to the whole Israel?
Verse 8, GOD showered them the covenant ordinance (covenant practice, covenant obligations) they should return –TITHES AND OFFERINGS. Verse 9 clearly show us who GOD was referring to, whether LEVITES OR THE WHOLE Israel who HE said was robbing HIM, “Ye are cursed with a course: For ye have robbed me, EVEN THIS WHOLE NATION”.

LIVE EXPERIENCE: There is live experience of tithing I wish to share here; there is a brother I call his name Chris, a Mechanical Engineering graduate. After his youth service he was with a job for almost a year. He was living on welfare and help from brethren. His pastor called him one day and advised him to organize private lessons for secondary school students preparing for exams. He did just that and the amount he was realizing was enough to feed himself and that reduced his begging for assistance. He was faithful paying tithe from what he realized from the lesson. After two years he secured an employment with an oil servicing company and his salary was fantastic and he was faithful paying his tithe. However after three years of working in oil servicing company he got another job with an oil company with salary double his earlier salary. He was happy and continues to worship GOD, paying his tithe faithfully. After two years he switched over to another company, this time around he was paid in dollars in which conversion his tithe every month runs into hundreds of thousands. It was then that he felt that the amount was too much to pay as tithe; he started to default in paying his tithe. He started giving any amount as tithe. According to him, the Holy Spirit warned him severally but he refused to heed the warning, Eventually after two years and four months he was fired i.e. he lost his job. He was without job for six good months and his eyes got opened and he ran to his pastor (the church) seeking for prayers with a vow to GOD to be paying 20% as tithe if GOD could have mercy and grant him another job. GOD been faithful had mercy on him and granted him another job. However the salary he was paid was 40% less than the job he lost. The essence of this story is to show you that paying tithe is for your own good not to help GOD or any MOG. Remember GOD is never in need neither the MOG you think you are helping by paying your tithe.
In concluding this write-up, I wish to ask you, are you paying your tithe faithfully? If yes, are you convinced of the reason for paying it . Are you in the covenant?. You are not paying tithe, is it because those not in the covenant are talking against it and making mockery of tithe payment?, I hope I have shown you the reason why you should pay or not pay tithe. It is left for you to decide. A word is enough for the wise.

@poster,

As an unbeliever and may be satanic worshipper the tithe is unlawful to you. Moreover you said it is unlawful because you don't know the real meaning nor the essence of tithe or tithing. I don.t blame your ignorance because you are an unbeliever and tithe is not for you. See my earlier post on real biblical meaning of tithe or tithing.

@poster,
   If you sincerely need deliverance as you sound, then i will tell you that it is very simple if you will take the following steps:
  The first step is to repent of your sins and ask Jesus to come into your heart. Many has received their deliverance by that simple step because when Jesus checks in into your life all the devil must surely check out. If the son of man shall set you free you shall be free indeed(John 8 : 36).
   If your deliverance didn't take place after that  then you need an anointed MOG to pray for you. Or you can visit SCOAN to see TBJ or the wise men. The choice is yours to make and steps to take.

regged4u:

Oh Small Boy, , now i know say your mugulity tight no be small. U first told me i am one of joagbaje's id on this site. I never knew it can catch and trigger your holy machine hanger too, if someone say u and Petres_007 are the same (which u are). SMALL BOY GOOD NIGHT,  NO THINK oh,  U HEAR? Bcus I NEVER START WITH U!

    SMALL BOY nuclear the BOY GOOD NIGHT TOO.

OH! birds of the same feathers, enemies of the cross,reprobate in mind and destitute of the truth. Kunleoshob. nuclearboy. Rhino head- when will you stop insulting MOG? If i say that three of you are nothing but agents of the devil i cant be misteaken . Your mission in NL is nothing but insult and discredit MOG. If you are not serving your master why is it that no MOG is ever accepted by you people. Does it mean that every MOG is false as you people want us to believe. You people need to repent before it is too late. Leave MOG alone before the WRATH of GOD comes upon you.

uche13:

@kunleoshob
And you that is more "spiritual" is now retaliating. If according to you they are "children of darkness" then you that is more enlightened should then simply be an example.

KunleOshob:

^^^
Mmmmh! Pastor chris is heaping generational curses on himself via his manipulative ways and butchering of the scriptures, may God have mercy on his soul.

   Sorry kunle, i believe you are disappointed, the comments you expected are not what you are seeing. Pst Chris has been a blessing to millions of lives both directly and indirectly.If i say that you need deliverance i cannot be mistaken, you have never said any thing postive about any MOG, reason been that you have a negative spirit tnat never see any good thing about MOG. You need to repent before it is too late

Most times when we are asked our religion we normally declare that we are Christians. Or when asked whether we are Christian or Muslim, we usually declare that we are Christians. Even some time ago my good friend nuclearboy listed some groups of NL forum members who he considered as Christians. There is no argument about it, but the question that need to be answered is, " You that said you are a Christian, does GOD know you as HIS own?. Is your name in the Book of Life kept by GOD or you do answer Christian because you are not a Muslim?. Philippians 4:3; Revelations 3:5; Revelations 20: 12; Revelations 20; 15 and Revelations 21 : 27. A day is coming when what we did in secret will be brought to light i.e. open. In that day, what will be your fate?.

There is no need for us to fight over this, or continue to pass negative comment against the great man of GOD Chris. The question that need to be answered is whether anyone has proved that allegation to be true?. What if the allegation originated from the pit of hell, aimed at discrediting the MOG?. Yes AGENTS of the devil are known for their false propaganda against anointed MOG. One thing is sure, when we point one finger against someone, three fingers are pointing at us. Be sure of this, every one us must be judged by our actions and utterances especially against MOG falsely.

Oh! what a pity.AGENTS of the devil at it again. You know them by their posts- they don't know how to write any topic unless it is about men of GOD, how to paint the image of MOG black. See how they have reacted over a post by one ayodel in Naija pals forum. If they are not agents of the devil, how could they be quick to concould  that the information is true . Who is Ayodel who originated the story?. If he is not fake, a fraudstar, and agent of the devil , why is his picture not in naijapals forum as others. Secondly where did he get the information?. He failed to disclose his source of information.
                                           

KunleOshob:

Every thing about this man is just a fraud, from fake miracles to defrauding deluded members and now to money laundering. This mamon god he worships must really be using him well.

 
   My dear kunleoshob, i thought you are sensible?.Be very very careful with your choice of words against  MOG before you attract the great wrath of GOD upon yourself.