@ poster,
You can never overcome sin while living in the flesh , that is, living according to the dictate of your flesh. There are two lives, life in the flesh and life in the spirit. The BIBLE declared that those that live according to the flesh can never please GOD while those that live in the Spirit are those that live victorious life( living above sin).
So the only way you can overcome sin is to surrender your life to Christ and be born of the Spirit.Therefore,, if any man is in Christ, he is a new Creation: old things have passed away, behold, all things have become new( 2 cor, 5:17).

@poster,

What do you do to earn a living? I asked the question because your post sounds like you are 419 of the highest order!

@poster,
I thank GOD that you know that there is what is known as holiness, because you will be judged by holiness standard the church you attend not withstanding. Moreover, i believe that you attend church yourself and that the church you attend yourself are not on the list you mentioned above if actually you attend church yourself.

What do you expect from the enemies of the truth and people depraved in mind and thinking.Iam not a member of CEC but my stand is on the part of truth.So whether you people are shadding tears of blood it doesn't matter i have made the point. It is not the fault of pastor Chris that he is a terror to the kindom of darkness which you people fighting him belong to . He will continue to march and move on no matter your envy of his success.

When you see people depraved in mind, you will see people who cannot reason well yet they feel that they are right in their mind while on lookers will be pitying them.Something happened few days ago, we were watching a live telecast of football match and when there was a goal people shouted goal. Beside that place we were watching was a mad man, stark naked. When people shouted, the mad man smiled and then screamed at the top of his voice " you people are mad". Do you get the picture? The mad man feel that he is right while the crowd are mad. In the same way people depraved in mind and destitute of truth are accusing others of 419.While as If you know them and x-ray their lives you will surely see that they are the known 419.
It is high time the owner of this forum modify the membership to make it mandatory for every eligible members to upload his or her picture before one is accepted as member. This will surely help to sanitize the forum from all comers affairs.

Birds of the same feathers they say flocks together. Folks of depraved mind , destitute of the truth. You are free to say any rubbish but the truth must be told. People of all works of life visit the forum and they see  the truth in black and white so you people should go ahead and expose your wicked mind. The church is marching  on and the gates of hell shall never never prevail.

By reason of persistent and unwarranted attack on successful MOG like Oyedepo, Pastor Chris, Pastor E. A. Adeboye and others. One wonders if it is a crime to be a successful MOG. That is why it is necessary to react to this thread- Does MEN OF GOD SUPPOSE TO BE POOR AND BEGGARLY?

In this forum some folks possessed with unclean spirit of error have taken it upon themselves to write and say all sort of rubbish against MOG particularly pastor Chris. Among whom are Kunleoshob and nuclear the BOY and Earswide who does nothing else than to castigate and write negative things against MOG especially Pastor Chris. In all these, one wonders what crime Pastor Chris committed as kunle has been calling him criminal and all other negative names.

However till today kunle could not mention one single issue or crime that Pastor Chris committed. The only crime according to kunle and co. is that Pastor Chris is a successful minister of the gospel. But is it his fault that he is a successful MOG? One wonders if been successful is a crime. No! No! To be successful is not a crime unless kunle and co. could prove it otherwise. So pastor Chris it is not your fault.
Be it as it were, if Pastor Chris is evil, “then he must BE AN EVIL GENIUS”. Only fools doubt proofs. HABA! Pastor Chris who Kunle and co. wants us to believe to be evil and criminal is known and celebrated world over. This is a MOG wherever he is holding a program in Nigeria people will fly to Nigeria from various parts of the globe. ARE THOSE PEOPLE FOOLISH AND ONLY KUNLE RIGHT? This is a MOG who holds a program in far away LONDON, and people fill the stadium before 7pm for a program that billed to start by 9pm. ARE THOSE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FOOLISH AND ONLY KUNLE AND CO. WISE? Last December31st night it was reported that people bought ticket just to go inside where Pastor Chris is to have a program. People traveled to that program from various parts of the country and even beyond. Does it mean that these people are fools and only kunle wise? His program in South Africa was extra ordinary. Thousands of people literally wept and shaded tears because they could no get into the stadium. Does it mean that all these people are fools. This is a MOG that countless numbers of people receive divine touch from his teaching not even live but mere listenind to him on television and recorded audio messages.
From all indication it is not Pastor Chris that has problem but rather kunle and co. who are possessed with the unclean spirit if ERROR. Kunle and co. may be intellectually excellent BUT SPIRITUALLY BANKRUPT BECAUSE THEY ARE SPIRITUALLY DEAD. THEY HAVE NO LIFE OF GOD IN THEM AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE INSTRUMENT IN THE HAND OF THE DEVIL. They are deceived and such goes about deceiving others. How can people who does not attend or believe in any church yet claim to be a Christian? They have sold their soul to the devil and that is why they are instrument in the hand of their master the devil. Their only mission in this forum is nothing but to abuse MOG. The only threads they write on are concerning MOG. What they are doing are not ordinary because they are been used by the devil. So be careful and not to partner with evil. Their conscience has been seared with hot iron and that is why they are ever learning but could never come to the knowledge of the truth. I pray that GOD will have mercy on them. AS FOR PASTOR CHRIS , HIS SUCCESS IS NOT HIS FAULT AND WILL NEVER BE HIS FAULT EVEN IF KUNLE AND CO. SHOULD SHADE TEARS OF BLOOD,

EarsWide:

@nuella2

No one is trying to take healing out of christianity - I am working very hard to get the fraudsters and charlatans out of the pulpit and into the jails they deserve. Is that clear enough ?

@Earswde
Sorry for you and how foolish of you to boast of using your bare foot to bring down an iron pillar. The church is marching on and gates of hell shall never never prevail. So go tell your master the devil that he has lost and will continue to loose. Look at your mouth. It seems that having sold your soul to the devil you could no longer reason well and that is why you could open your mouth wide to call MOG 419 and fraudsters . Are you not ashamed of yourself? Any way we pray for you that GOD could deliver you before the devil destroys you because you are heading for destruction if you don't desist from abusing MOG.

@poster
I laugh at you because your high level poverty mentality is your major problem coupled with your high level spiritual ignorance. "Because they do not know, nor do they understand;they walk about in darkness" Psalms 82 vs. 5.

@loveking
So your own version of spiritual growth is sex perversion? . Sorry a dead corpse can never grow but rotten and decay. It is only some thing that have live that can grow.Someone that is spiritually dead like your self can never grow spiritually but rather will continue to decay and rotten, get it right.

Gombs:

Nuclearboy. . . .You are one interesting fellow, . .Now take a deep breath,calm down,and read your gibberish post, if you are well enough,you'd see you didnt make any sense,nor suprise me, ok,lets leave it at this. . .Pastor chris is a business tycoon,he is fake,he smokes weed,he uses witchcraft,he is a vampire,he is fraudulent and a scam,he is from the illuminati sect,he is a police man,he is . . . (pls continue,i've ran out of adjectives). . . .Since you see and say the 'truth'(which of course only exist in that barren skull of yours,(no offence intended pls)),i find that rather woeful,and . . . Pls,abeg,ejo,don allah,biko,sil vous plair. . .let him be o!. . .come first?. . .Why you dey vex?. . .Is it your money? . . .Leave him and his 'perverted' things alone,is that too much to ask of you?, you just dey there dey drink panadol for another man headache.

mabell link=topic=577773.msg7863123#msg7863123 date=1299507426:

@ Gombs,
and  sad  to  see  too
@  newmi,  thanks,  these  guys  are  hard  of  hearing  and  blinded  by  their  ignorance  and  selfishness  but  God  dey  sha

Others are beginning to see what i have been saying. I don't argue with nuclear the BOY and co. because they are possessed with the spirit of ERROR , for that arguing with them is a waste of time as nothing is achieved arguing with them . What these guys need is a deliverance from the spirit of error , only then can they reason well.

Oh! God laments "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". When someone lack the knowledge of the word of GOD and don't have relationship with GOD he or she is bound to fall victim of fraudsters who may even masquerade as pastors. That someone calls himself a pastor does not make him a MOG.

I am not saying that that pastor in the story is not a MOG because i don't know him nor is that story verified as true.

NO AUDIO! Please let us have the audio format used in recording that video because it doesn't play in my system and another i have tried.

Happy birthday daddy G.O. May GOD continue to bless you.

@ poster,
Do you attend church at all? I hope you are not a hypocrite who preach do what i say and not what i do. It will do you good by telling us one these churches you mentioned that you belong to, if actually you do attend church at all.

@kunleoshob,
Kunle, your major problem is that you are possessed with the spirit of ERROR. For that reason you are pessistant in oppossing the truth.You need deliverance from that spirit of error only then your eyes will be opened to the truth you once oppossed. May GOD have mercy on you.

Oh! What an unfortunate and terrible situation in Nigeria. A nation without a "single man of GOD" WHEREAS THERE ARE MANY MEN OF THE DEVIL including the poster.

What is happening to UNION BANK of NIG. PLC ? Is the prophecy of Fr. Ejike Mbaka coming true or what. The story had it that the Rev.Fr. cursed Union Bank and advised his church members to withdraw their money from the Bank as he declared that the Bank will surely colapse . Is the situation in Union bank trying to prove the MOG true?.

@kunleoshob,
I still wait for you to prove your point why you said that tithe is a scam.

Demain_man:

[size=18pt]TITHING is a criminal offence! Don't give. Don't take!!![/size]

One proverb says that you can only tell a blind man that there is no oil in the soup but you can't tell him that there is no salt. Your comment is meant for those who don't know GOD like yourself and not for covenant people of GOD. A covenant child of GOD should know what to do when it comes to obedience to the Bible. You don't NEED to pay tithe because GOD don't need your tithe. Give GOD your heart first.

@kunleoshob,
I don't need to fight over words with you over tithe. You have over the years been distorting the BIBLE truth concerning tithe which you have been posting before the public. I have taken time to present the true Bible position over tithing as it is in the mind of GOD. It seems you are afraid of the truth.?
You are fond of making a general statement that can't be substantiated . To you tithe is a scam, so it is you who need to disprove the Biblical truth i have presented above. However it is wise to itimize one by one the so called scam as you see it with Biblical backing to prove your points not just making a statement. Do that and i will reply you or rather keep your mouth shot over tithe matters as you don't know what you are saying.

@kunleoshob & co,
As you an enemy of the truth I don’t need to go on arguing with you. Moreover you don’t have new thing to offer as you expect me to begin to repeat myself over and over again. Tithe as a covenant obligation started before the nation of Israel came into existence. So whatever our covenant fathers said about tithe is the true meaning of tithe. TITHE AS PAID BY OUR COVENANT FATHERS WAS TO EXPRESS THEIR TRUST, DEPENDENCE AND APPRECIATION TO GOD FOR GIVING THEM THE RESOURCES UPON WHICH THEY PAID TITHE FROM.

You should distinguish between tithe as a covenant obligation and tithe as a law. Tithe as a covenant obligation was in operation before the nation of Israel came into existence and to the nation of Israel the law was giving to. To the Israel they started to defraud in their covenant obligation and that is why GOD incorporate tithe as a law to guide them in their daily lives. They were not paying their tithe correctly that is why GOD tried to define tithe for them as seen in Leviticus 27 vs. 1 - end. A look at the above chapter, some Israelite cattle farmers were saying that it is crop farmers that should pay tithe while crop farmers were saying that it is cattle farmers that should pay tithe. GOD has to define to them what their tithe should be. See Leviticus 27 vs. 30 and 32 (there is tithe of farm crop and tithe of herds or flocks. The Israelites that time were either crop farmers or cattle rarer GOD expect every one of them to pay tithe. Today if you are a crop farmer or cattle rarer and you pay tithe of crop or flock it is acceptable before GOD.

For avoidance of doubt I must point out, people who don’t have any relationship with GOD are those making mockery and attacking tithing while covenant people who understand tithe are faithfully obeying GOD. Any one who has PROVED GOD IN TITHE AND OFFERING ARE NEVER PERSUADED TO PAY TITHE AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO PREVENT THEM FROM OBEYING GOD IN THAT ASPECT.

Because you don’t know GOD nor understand tithing that is while you are attacking tithing. Or rather I see you as been used of the devil to distort the truth so that people will not know the truth. If I and others who are faithful in tithing and it is working for us and you regard us as fools, I rather continue to remain a fool in that aspect. Moreover, it is a well established proof that there is no covenant child of GOD that is enjoying the FULLNESS OF GOD’S BLESSING THAT IS NOT A TITHER.

*****ASSIGNMENT FOR YOU MY READER: Carry out an investigation about the leading men of GOD in Nigeria and you will come to realize that they are paying more than 10% of their income as tithe . No wonder they are enjoying the fullness of GOD’S blessings. I assure you, you can never be persuaded about tithing not until you HAVE PROVED GOD IN THAT ASPECT. GOD said that you should prove HIM, do so and let me see if you will not have a story to tell.

chuose:

TJ joshua is an occultist, devoid of the Holy Spirit of God!

@chuose,
I believe you have the Holy Spirit yourself. The only way to prove it is that we take a trip to SCOA. When TBJ shout in JESUS name and you start rolling on the floor as the demons in you start manifesting. It is only then we prove whether TBJ is an occultist or not,

GOD is a re warder of them that diligently seek and obey him. If kunle deceives you not to obey GOD NA YOU SABI! ! !

For goodness sake, the picture by augustinaz should not be allowed in this section

GOD is never a task master neither is He in need of your money. Faithfully obey GOD not man and it will be well with you.

KunleOshob:

It's really a shame that satanist like ogoamaka have hijacked the faith for their demon god oyaks else we would not be seeing heresies like this.

What a remark, truth is really bitter for your consumption. You will never know any peace until you leave MOG alone. Pastor Chris is never your problem , look for your problem. May GOD have mercy on you .

I observe that any post relating to tithing generate much response both from those who favor and those against tithe payment. To this end, endless arguments goes on and on all trying to prove their point or claim to the one saying the truth. It is highly unfortunate that because those people possess itching ears they are persistently opposed to the truth. One thing that gives me joy is that the issue of faith is never by force and we have freedom to make choice.
      The Bible said we shall know the truth and the truth shall make us free(John 8 vs. 32). So it is left for you to allow the Holy Spirit to guide you into knowing and obeying the truth. If after all said and done you come to conclusion that it is not scriptural to pay tithe, then never waste your resources in the name of paying tithe because it is like throwing your money away. However if by the Spirit of GOD you accept the truth presented to you and will continue to present to you on the issue of tithing , then go ahead and obey GOD and pay your tithe faithfully.
      However, it will be highly unfortunate that to do anything based on that  any man told you. All i am doing is to guide you with relevant truth to enable you to decide or otherwise. You must be well persuaded in your mind. The Bible is the only truth not what any man thinks and the Holy Spirit is the only custodian of truth. And it means that it takes the indwelling Holy Spirit in a man to know the truth. If you allow people who don't know GOD or have any relationship with GOD to be the one that say they are telling you the truth it is left for you to decide.
      With respect to e of tithing, GOD is never a task master neither is he in need of your resources. Your paying or not paying tithe is for your gain not GOD or any MOG.

KunleOshob:

^^^
That is becos he is a well known notorious unrepentant criminal!

@Kunle,
Haba! kunle, I perceive there was a negative spirit inside of you that pastor Chris dealt with. Your comments are unbecoming of a gentle man .How can such a barbaric comment come out of your mouth? Learn to talk fact not sentiment.I have analyzed your posts and you are fond of making a generalized statement without fact backing your statements. For instance if you are arrested and asked to prove your point against pastor Chris what will be your points that made him "notorious" ,"unrepentant" and "criminal". Be careful over your choice of language so that you don't loose your tongue.