[quote author=uchkochi]Tb joshua is not a christian,neither was he a christian. This is not criticism,it is righteous judgement.John 7 vs.24. Multitudes are being deceived daily,and i cant watch it any longer, the miss leadings and deception is getting out of hand. So you that is priviledged to read this u are blessed.

My dear uchkochi, what is power code 0012 and how do you come to know about that power code?
If i say you are possessed i won,t be wrong because you only person out of his mind could say what you said about TBJ. May GOD have mercy on you.

My friend you don't appease a witch because doing so is like you going to appease THE DEVIL which is not possible. All you need is to surrender your life to JESUS Christ and be born again not in mouth but in truth and in spirit. When you are born again, the spirit of GOD will come and dwell in you and that spirit is far above witches. Witches will be afraid of you instead.

Goshen360: I have always questioned many activities in the body of Christ in the light of the word of God. One of such are those who claim to be called into deliverance ministry and believers (who claim to have been in-dwelled by the Holy Spirit) attending deliverance ministry year in and out but are still bound by demons.

So the question is, AFTER a man be in Christ, say genuinely be in Christ and Spirit filled, can such person still be possessed by demon(s)? Am not talking about not putting the flesh under subjection that sometimes, leads to sin of a believer but am talking about Holy Ghost sanctified and filled believer/Christian still being possessed by demons. How true is this? Kindly prove your points with scriptures please.

Bible is our standard and answer to every issues of life. You need to understand the difference between a christian possessing a demon and a christian been possessed by a demon.
A christian can possess a demon and it is possible BUT a christian CANNOT BE POSSESSED BY A DEMON.

Logicbwoy: The guy is worshipped by many Nigerians


But the smart ones know that he is a fraud

Oh! sorry for you, Bishop Oyedepo do say that "only fools doubt proofs". Who are the smart ones?

Forum is to reason together logically even though your own reasoning may not be correct.There is much misgiving in this forum because members always take their own argument only to be correct. For GOD'S we are not in exam that one is expecting similar answer. For instance i participated in a debate some years ago in a campus under Christian Union fellowship on a topic which says that "fathers is more important than mothers in a home". This topic has no answer but to test your logical reasoning among other things. At other time we debated on a topic that says "there is no GOD". So, forum is to reason and share ideas and not to point who is right or wrong.Everyone one is entitled to ones opinion and ones opinion should be respected.

Oh! what a pity.When someone who need pity tend to pity someone far better-of.By this thread the poster is trying to prove that one who is not religious is better of than one who is religious. Haba! God have mercy.

Are there no more Christians in the forum or is the question too hard ?

Taking into consideration BIBLE injunction in Exodus 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a WITCH to live". And Deut 18:10 "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a WITCH".I wish to ask Christians in this forum, is it possible and Biblical for a PRACTICING WITCH AND AT THE SAME TIME BE A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN? That is to say that one is a WITCH FOR JESUS.Please kindly use SCRIPTURES to support your argument.

@ poster,
Most time it is a waste of time posting in this forum. This is because people with itching ears don't like hearing the truth and they are ready to attack the truth any time. However truth is truth no matter who is against or in favor of it. Nice work. For now i am on break.

It seems we are deviating from the question. GOD said in the BIBLE as a commandment that you shall not KILL while Muslim Allah told them to KILL. That means Allah and GOD is not the same. Who is this Allah?

@Ruqaya,
Who is this Allah? Is he or she still alive?

@Lagosshia,
Sorry to say this, it seems you have problem upstairs! This is because your threads displays someone who does not reason well. Why not try to write meaningful thread that people can read learn something rather than this kind of thread that display foolishness.

@lagosshia,
You are publicly displaying your ignorance. If i say that you will eat shit if you are lazy and refuse to work. Does this mean that you are eating shit. I need your answer.

You prove how foolish some people are by their post. Many people are above been foolish but have lost their mind. A foolish man is better of than a man who has lost his mind. From the post of many people, you will see that they have lost their mind and cannot reason well again. GOD have mercy on such people.

@Lagosshia,
My dear Lagosshia, it seems that you left the issue at stake. Islam the blood line of Ishmael came to be as a result of mistake made by ABRAHAM. The mistake was that Abraham headed his wife Sarah in going to Hagar his bond maid. Hagar was a house help or a slave in the house of Abraham. Abraham got Ishmael as a result of that affair. If Abraham did not make that mistake , Islam would not be. Islam is a curse.

The bane of society is the problems of not able to define what is good or bad. And what is good today may be bad tomorrow, and what is right today may be wrong tomorrow. And what help to define whether what you are doing is good or bad is our belief system. You are controlled by what you believe. If you believe what is wrong your actions will be wrong. It is unfortunate that many people are held captive by the spirit of ERROR even though they may not know nor accept that they are erroneous.

One of the problem in this forum is some fighting, trying to force others to accept their opinion not minding whether the opinion is right or wrong. Many people have mind set on certain religious issues that they want every other person to accept what they are saying. Their mind is so closed to new ideas and information. Because of their mind set, they attack any one who do not accept or believe what they believe.

Many are in this forum for a purpose; they are being controlled by the devil without knowing it. Their mission is merely to propagate falsehood, to fight any truth said by any one. They do this by diverting truth said in any thread by introducing issues not connected with a thread. Second they attack the person who posted the thread instead of reacting to the issue raised in the thread.

One folly aspect is that they claim to be Christians but all their posts are against Christians. Why is it that in this forum, atheists, Satanists, Muslims etc does not attack ministers of GOD but those who claim to be Christians? Which of the reports do you believe?

When people does things, a times I begin to imagine whether the person has lost his or her mind or is operating cursed thinking. If not what could make someone to claim right and stick to it despite available facts on the ground?

The BIBLE declared in 2Corinthains 13:8 “For we can do nothing against the truth, but for the truth.” That is to say truth is truth no matter who is for it or against it. Look at the issue of Bishop Oyedepo and Winners Chapel, held Shiloh last December and it was beamed live round the globe and many watched the program through the internet. Many lives was touched and transformed through that program. More than 40 nations was represented at Canaan Land been the headquarter of Winners Chapel.

Despite all that happened and is still happening, few elements in this forum are still grieved and attacking Oyedepo calling him all sorts of names. The question is who is right and who is wrong?

Remember the warning in Proverbs 29:1 "He who is often rebuked and stiffens his neck will be destroyed suddenly, with no remedy." Believe it or not many names are out the forum permanently because, others are still in the forum but had dropped their original name and assumed new names. Be careful and never challenge GOD for a battle because you could be destroyed.

My friend KunleOshob i don't see your postings any longer, tell them your new name unless you have withdrawn from the forum or have assumed a new name. Believe you me, many are with new names after they have learn t bitter lesson in life for their action.

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge so says Hosea 4:6a “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

Some accuse me of defending prophets of GOD but I keep saying that I am not defending anybody as I am not competent to do so. Rather I have been trying to warn people that mocking GOD and abusing and mocking the prophets of GOD are risky and dangerous. Those who are guilty of it in the past have paid dearly for their actions. Many are not alive to tell their story. Why do you wait to be a victim? I asked this question because many in this forum have come and gone and many are still doing what they did not knowing what happened to them. How many of this forum do you know in person? I believe, not up to 2% and you fail to ask your self why some names do permanently disappear from the forum.

I am writing this because of what I saw recently in a hospital where I went to see somebody. In the hospital I met someone who has been so vocal in this forum, vomiting all sort of rubbish in mockery to GOD and ministers of GOD. I met the person in a sorry state and I asked him why he no longer features in the forum? He said he do feature but with a new forum name. According to him, he had learn t his lesson and is pleading for GOD’S mercy vowing never to talk rubbish in the forum again.

That person is lucky because he is still alive even though his situation now is not good as he is paying for his action. I said he is paying for his action because doctors could not help him and he is now asking for mercy from GOD he earlier mocked. I gave him my contact asking him to contact me so that I take him to a MOG that could minister healing and deliverance to him.

So my friend be careful with your utterance in this forum and in other forum, what you say. Before you join to condemn any man especially MOG, ensure that the information is true. I advice you rather to be silent over issues that you are not sure of. If not, believe you me you may end up in a sorry state if the wrath of GOD should come upon you.

Logic Mind:

Dear Ogoamaka99,

My prayer is for the WRATH. I need it. I want it. Can't you understand. If your god can hear you please ask him to send his wrath my way. I don't need his mercy nor any other thing. Satan is enough for me. I only need the wrath to be complete.


On the other hand, stop with isreali fairy tales, igbos have enough of their own.

@logic mind
It seems you have lost your mind and that is why such utterance. I pray that GOD will have mercy on your poor soul because you may not live to tell your story if the wrath of GOD should come upon you.

Looking at what is happening, I feel compelled to ask this question. I request lagosshia or anybody who knew the answer to tell me. Who is this Allah? Is Allah as preached by Muslim the same being as JEHOVAH GOD as preached by Christians? To me they are not the same because GOD can’t contradict Himself. (1) God of the Bible said “FOR THOU SHALL NOT KILL” but Muslims said that their Allah gave them instruction to KILL and that is why they are killing.

Is GOD and Allah the same?

Logic Mind:

Please god strike me. strike me. your followers say you are merciful, I say you are powerless, weak, but most importantly, inexistent. Your followers can't reason. They only resort to insult and threats. Or quoting the satanic verses of their bible in order to bamboozle the feeble minded and the easily impressed.
So hear me god.
You are weak
You can't do anything because you are NOT.
I would rather worship the bones of the chicken I ate today as it's flesh and blood actually fed me and made me stronger.
You are weak
Powerless
Useless
Invented

If I'm lying do something about it.

So Blastus, what whappened to the nza bird in your folklore, because as far I can tell, many small birds are still flying around today so even that imaginary bird's god couldn't do anything?
Oh! I know it's just a fairy tale. Just like your god.

@Logic mind
I pity you because i feel you are not normal and don't know what you are doing. If GOD decide to show you HIS wrath, you may not survive to tell others your experience. Pharaoh once boasted in Exodus 5:2 And Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.
And after GOD dealt with him, he was quick to acknowledge GOD.Exodus 12:29-33 And it came to pass, that at midnight the Lord smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for there was not a house where there was not one dead.
And he called for Moses and Aaron by night, and said, Rise up, and get you forth from among my people, both ye and the children of Israel; and go, serve the Lord, as ye have said.Also take your flocks and your herds, as ye have said, and be gone; and bless me also.
And the Egyptians were urgent upon the people, that they might send them out of the land in haste; for they said, We be all dead men.
Pray that GOD don't show up to you with HIS wrath.

Pst Joe, congrats on your well deserved award. More grease to your elbow.

Pastor Kun:

Daft thread.

pastorkun are you a christian? I asked this question because by the above thread i feel challenged not to be lukewarm but to stand and take my inheritance by force. It seems that you are an agent of the devil masquerading as a christian. I mean no offence, but your calling the above a daft thread doesn't potray a Christan.

@Earswide,

EarsWide:

@Ishilove,
you are right I dont believe in all the crappy nonsense peddled by MFM - especially that people whose mothers had difficult pregancies need deliverance. It is the kind of nonsense only a half-wit like yourself would believe. Did you go to secondary school ? Did you sleep during biology ?

Regarding 'selling deliverance' - do you think those that are 'delivered' are not cajoled into donating money ? How else will MFM run itself ? Maybe they can manufacture money out of thin air! LMAO

1Cor 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

EarsWide:

Oyedepo is a fraud and a bully. Yahoo boys have more honour than this fraud and other charlatans like him.
keep your 'touch not my annointed' for people who too lazy to read the bible for themselves.

Pastor Kun:

Any body that has studied the scriptures would know without any iota of doubt that oyedepo is clearly not of God. He is defintely one of the several false prophets the scriptures severally warned us about and I believe those exposing this fraudster are doing their christian duty as exposing him for the crook he is would mean less victims falling for him and his likes.

Any man or woman who is destined to perish, no level of advice can do. pastorkun and earwide you need deliverance before it is too late.

OmoPastor:

Very simple test and you failed woefully 

Simply answer the questions and you are already fuming with anger

Stop being a 9jerian and answer my questions bro! Then we can talk 

@ ramalot

Very funny ha ha ha, but you sounded like a novice that needs tutoring cos you are definitely blind.
If you think that men called and annointed by God live off your money then bro you are very lost.
I put a challenge to you: if you think and believe that the man called and annointed by God has his livelihood from tithes and offerings, then simply start your own church and feed your family from the proceeds of your church. Lets see if you will remain alive after the first 12 months 

What a pity, i doubt if sirniyeh is a born again christian. God is not a money doubler HE want your heart before HE accept your money.

Hi, folks why argue over nothing? You are free to believe whatever you like. It is either you obey GOD and reap the benefit of your obedience. It is a high time you tell yourself the truth about tithe, whether to pay or not to pay.

It is really a wave of Glory. Were you in attendance to the programs?

shiloh is always a life transforming event.

EarsWide:

@Ogoamaka

What exactly do you gain from defending these people ? Is there no part of you that feels that the poor and desperate in society need to be protected from these frauds.

@EARWIDE,
I expect you to reason very well before reacting. How did you prove that the information is true? Why, pastorkun was not in that conference, so how did he get the information? If somebody told him, how did he prove that the information the person gave him was true? Before we join to condemn bishop Okonkwo i expect pastorkun to prove to us the source of the information and how reliable is the information? Ask yourself, what if that information was false?