Any man/woman who never acknowledge his or her mistake is a fool. To say you never make a mistake is a sign of ignorance.

@nuclear the BOY

Boy oh! boy, how does the bla bla you said connected to the thread above?. You always try to divert a thread by bringing unnecessary issue in a thread when you lack something to say. May i remind you that there is no enchantment against Jacob, more over the scepter of the wicked shall not rest upon the lot of the righteous. For that, the prophecy of destruction you said await you before the end of this year if you don't repent.

mazaje:


Non of them wants to touch it. . .Pastor Kun is a regular and vehement critic of Joagbaje. . . .I wonder why him and other critics of Joagbaje are not saying anything meaningful with verses from the bible to support their arguments.

That is exactly the issue, they cannot argue meaningful over any issue raised in a thread nor originate a thread themselves but rather they always attack other people personality. Again i wonder how an unbeliever pastor kun poster kun should choose a pastor as his forum name?

@nuclear the BOY,
   Sorry, i don't argue with a boy like you because your post doesn't make sense. Your post doesn't make sense because you have a reprobate mind been possessed with a spirit of error. That is why you are everyday in nairaland forum to see any truth said by ogoamaka99 to thwart it. Why not be sensible enough to originate a thread even once rather than attacking other people thread?.

Because of many questions i keep asking myself, trying to reason why on earth could make someone who claims to be a Christian open his or her mouth wide to call a MOG thief, 419, or a criminal? It was trying to find answer that the HOLY SPIRIT led me to Romans 8:7 “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” The HOLY GHOST made me to understand that the major reason is the high level enmity between the Spiritual mind and the carnal mind.

1Corinthians 1:18 and 2Corinthians 2: 13-15 goes to prove that: 1 Corinthians 1: 18 “For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.”
1Cor 2:13-15“Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

What these MOG are teaching are so spiritual while as these sons of belial are so carnally minded. Because of that, these teachings doesn’t make sense or meaning to them. That is why Earwide could call Oyedepo 419 because of his teaching that you don’t prosper in this kingdom by praying but by giving. If Earwide understood himself, he would have proved to us that it is possible to prosper by prayer.

Look at 1Corinthians 2:14 again “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.”
The major reason why the sons of belial and their cohort will never never come to terms with Oyedepo, Pastor Chris or Pastor Mathew Ashimolowo is as a result of the above scripture-they operate in their natural carnal mind which made it impossible for them to receive things of the Spirit of GOD which these MOG teaches. Moreover what these MOG are teaching are so foolishness to them. Because of this, I am so much concerned about unguided members of this forum who are listening to these sons of belial.

Let us face the reality, and help answer this question, IF THESE MOG ARE 419, OR CRIMINAL AS THESE SONS OF BELIAL MADE US TO ACCEPT, HOW ARE THEY BE ABLE TO BE PA STOR LARGE CONGREGATION AS THEY ARE PA STORING? I really need an answer because I feel that people ought to run away from these MOG if they are 419 or criminal?

The BIBLE made a vivid declaration in Obadiah 1:17 “But upon mount Zion shall be deliverance, and there shall be holiness; and the house of Jacob shall possess their possessions.” Many today are suffering under the hand of the devil, simply because they refuse to come to mount Zion for their deliverance. Others are in great penury and lack because they could not posses their possession simply because they refuse to come to mount Zion.

Are you still outside mount Zion? Don’t allow the sons of perdition and belial to deceive you into thinking that it is not necessary to attend church simply because they don’t attend. The BIBLE said in Romans 10:17 “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” If that is the case, how do you think that your faith will ever increase if you do not listen or worship with other believers? You can equally obtain faith by listening to anointed messages by anointed MOG as well as reading their books. But, of great importance, come to mount Zion for it will pay you well.

In the BIBLE in Numbers 16 an incident took place which shows the danger of unnecessary confrontation of an anointed MOG. I have written many threads on MOG not necessarily to defend these MOG but to warn those unknowingly join to abuse some MOG, the dangers of doing so.

Sometime ago I posted a thread “Touch not my anointed” and many was quick to say in that thread that we are all anointed. Yes we may be all anointed but are we all CALLED?
In that Numbers 16 many ignorantly joined Korah in his rebellion against Moses and Aaron, but they paid dearly for their action, so be careful. A member of this forum posted a thread saying that there is no true MOG in Nigeria that you are free to say anything against MOG in Nigeria, what a pity.

I warn as I use to warn before, be careful in opening your mouth wide against any man, how much more an anointed MOG. It pays you no good to join in abusing a MOG in this forum simply because you think your identity is unknown. Assuming your picture is displayed, will you be bold to say some of the things you say against some MOG? Remember that you are surely to account for everything you say or do, whether they are good or bad.

In Genesis 12 in the call of Abraham, GOD made a promise to Abraham, Genesis 12:1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
Genesis 12:2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
Genesis 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
This blessing was upon Abraham, which was latter transferred to Isaac and Isaac transferred to Jacob, see Genesis 28:4 And give thee the blessing of Abraham, to thee, and to thy seed with thee; that thou mayest inherit the land wherein thou art a stranger, which God gave unto Abraham.
Today many have activated this blessing of Abraham by their actions while some has activated curses upon themselves.
On earth today, there are many MOG who has activated this blessing of Abraham having paid the prize like Abraham.
You can partake of the blessing of Abraham through connecting to a MOG because it is been said in Genesis 12:3 “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee:and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

Those who understand this are doing everything possible to bless some MOG. That is why you see many MOG riding expensive vehicles be given to them by individuals, while others are busy attracting curses upon themselves by abusing these MOG. When you open your mouth to curse a MOG who has activated the blessing of Abraham, you end up receiving the curse of GOD, because GOD said HE will bless those who bless Abraham and curse those who curse him.
One folly thing is that those sons of belial sees those who are blessing these MOG as fools for their action while those who are receiving tremendous blessings from their blessing MOG are pitying the sons of belial for their ignorance.
The sons of perdition and belial are cursed, so why share in their curses by joining them to abuse MOG who by that actions has brought them curses be warned.

In John 13:35 Jesus gave us yardstick for knowing a true disciple “By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”
Also in 1John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar: for he that loves not his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? 1John 2:9 He that said he is in the light, and hates his brother, is in darkness even until now.
1John 2:11 But he that hates his brother is in darkness, and walks in darkness, and knows not where he goes, because that darkness has blinded his eyes.
1John 3:15 Whoever hates his brother is a murderer: and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him.

All these scriptures show that love for one another is a true evidence to show that one is a Christian. It is unimaginable for some one to say he or she is a Christian and yet open his or her mouth wide to call a fellow Christian a thief, a criminal or 419? Let me ask you, can you publish in a newspaper that your neighbor is a thief or a criminal without be arrested by o police to come and prove your allegation. I therefore challenge Kunleoshob, posterkun, Earwide, and other cohort to prove their allegation of the MOG they keep calling thief, criminal, 419, etc.
Finally, I wish to remind members of this forum that everything we do or say is going on record, and surely we must reap whatever we sow.

It is unfortunate and a waste of time trying to argue with people with reprobate mind. From all indication,, the sons of belial and perdition will never learn. I pity those who ignorantly follow them in their act of iniquity.

In Hosea 4:6 GOD lamented that His people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.” No wonder GOD made a promise to HIS people to give them pastors in Jeremiah 3: 15. “And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding”. For what purpose was the promise of pastors? From the above scripture, GOD said that pastors are to FEED HIS PEOPLE WITH KNOWLEDGE AND UNDERSTANDING. Yes with knowledge and understanding.

Despite GOD been faithful to His promise of giving pastors HIS people, yet many of HIS people are still wallowing and dying in ignorance simply because they reject pastors who GOD has positioned to feed them with knowledge and understanding. Some not only reject the pastors but are busy despising and abusing them. Others are busy raising people and influencing them to abuse pastors. But you that join to abuse pastors, can you pin point any evil or bad thing any of these pastors had done to you?

Talking about pastors, a pastor you despise and reject his person can never be a blessing to you. It is so because a lecturer you despise can never pass new knowledge to you. Taking Pastor Chris, bishop Oyedepo for example, thousands of people crowed every week to listen to their teaching; others spend lot of money to buy their books and audio and video messages because of the impact of these teachings. While the sons of perdition are in this forum abusing these MOG, calling them criminal or 419 etc.

One folly thing about those abusing pastors in this forum is that they are not Christians but claim to be Christians. Many of them are occult members. Others are but agents of the devil which mission is to blindfold you from knowing the truth. They paint the impression that you don't need to go to church or need to listen to pastors. The reason why many are decaying in their knowledge is because they are not updating their knowledge. Why do professors and doctors attend workshops and seminars? The reason was to update their knowledge? Why do establishments organize in-service training workshops and seminars for their workers? The essence is to update their knowledge.

How do you think that you can be a good Christian without associating with other Christians by been a member of a church?
The BIBLE said that iron sharpeneth iron. So don’t die in ignorance. Romans 10:14-16 "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?"
Also the BIBLE said that without faith that it is impossible to please GOD and faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of GOD. How do you obtain faith or increase your faith if you don’t listen to messages of other anointed pastors?

It is unfortunate that unbelievers and occult members in this forum go about abusing pastors and some Christians unknowing do join them. My writing about MOG is neither to defend these MOG nor to confront the sons of perdition, but to warn members of this forum who unknowingly join them, of the dangers of their action.

Have you ever asked yourself, why the sons of perdition never said any good thing about ANY MOG? Does it mean that all MOG are bad? Be wise in your action, and never join to say badly of any man who has done you no evil or you have proved doing evil. Don’t join to talk evil of a person you don’t even know simply because others are doing so.

To prove my point, I challenge those who call Pastor Chris criminal or Bishop Oyedepo 419 to itemize what informed their opinion. That is, they should prove or point what Pastor Chris did or is doing that made them call him criminal? This challenge is very important because proving the allegation that Pastor Chris is a criminal will enable members of this forum and visitors to really see Pastor Chris and who he is truly is- (whether a true MOG or a criminal). If they fail to prove the allegation about Pastor Chris and other MOG that will prove to you that what they are saying about Chris and other MOG is totally false.

Let us get the information correct, attending BIBLE college does not make someone a pastor. These 8,000 graduates, are not all pastors as any body who is hungry for knowledge is eligible, qualified to attend the BIBLE school. So anyone can attend the school even candidates from other churches. The school runs programs for ordained pastors and noon pastors, so the 8,000 graduates should not be called pastors.

@nuclearBOY,
BOY oh! BOY! as usual, you have left the issue to call names. Why not react to points raised and stop that your BOYISH mentality.

@nuclearBOY,
OH! BOY, it seems you have problem of understanding English language as you have problem of understanding spiritual matters. I said, I challenge Kunleoshb, nuclearBOY, and their groups, we are not in this forum to quarrel or call names. After all we don't know each other in person. They should stop abusing MOG or calling MOG names.
So my dear BOY, prove that the above is a wrong grammar or an incomplete sentence.

nuclearboy:

Ogoamaka99 excels at showing he is empty upstairs

OH! BOY, between ogoamaka99 and yourself, who is empty upstairs? Point out how many thread you have originated this year, yet you claim that you have something upstairs?

@posterkun,
Are you a pastor or a poster. It is unfortunate that an unbeliever should answer such name as pastor poster.

In the story I shared in the thread “grand deception” the person who was responsible for the poisoning was the uncle to the man. His reason was why should the children of his brother progress more than his own children?

The man of GOD who prayed for the elder brother saw what happened and told the man to pray every midnight for three nights. His prayers were that GOD should visit with vengeance on the man that was responsible for the poisoning. Do you know that the very first night that the man embarked on the prayers his uncle came locking at his door complaining that his prayers was disturbing the neighborhood. The man didn't stop his prayers, but rather intensived his prayers and at the end of the three nights of prayers, GOD visited HIS vengeance on his uncle. To cut the long story short his uncle after confessing his atrocities got paralyzed and the following day elder son of the uncle mistakenly drank the wine his father poisoned that he had planned to give to someone else.

The above incident points to the message by Oyedepo captioned “DAY OF VENGEANCE”. The sons of belial criticized that message saying that Oyedepo is a false prophet by teaching about cursing your enemies. By the way who is your enemy? You need to understand who your enemies are. The Bible said in Ephesians 6:12 “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places”. As a christian, you should never call or regard anyone as your enemy.

Many lives had been cut short by wicked forces. While as many are testifying that their eyes got opened by reason of that message by Oyedepo, the sons of perdition by reason of their lack of understanding thought otherwise.

May I ask you, a witch who lives next compound, who wishes you dead; do you pray that GOD should bless and prosper that witch? Or do you pray that whatever any man or woman had planned for you, let it return to the sender? I really need an answer.!

Don't allow any spiritually ignorant person to deceive you.

@kun,
Are you a pastor or are you answering pastor as a lo gin name? If pastor Chris is a charlatan i wonder who you are?

The BIBLE said something in 1st Corinthians 8 : 2 “And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know”. What this Scripture saying is actually the problem with many in this forum, claiming to know what we don’t know and that is why many wallow in ignorance.

Many are using their natural reasoning and understanding to interpret the BIBLE which they don’t understand. One have to understand the BIBLE First before you can think of interpreting it. The BIBLE is a Spiritual BOOK and it takes the SPIRIT of GOD i.e. the HOLY SPIRIT to understand and interpret it. The BIBLE said in 1Corianthians 2:14,“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned”.

Because many are spiritually ignorant, that is why many are abusing some MOG because what these MOG are teaching does not appeal to their natural reasoning AND UNDERSTANDING. Many, like the one who answer mrbible are like APOLLOS of the BIBLE in Acts 18:24 "And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
Acts 18:25 This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
Acts 18:26 And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly".

Apollos was an eloquent man, mighty in the scripture yet he wasn’t born again. He knew only the baptism of John. He doesn’t know about JESUS CHRIST, OR ABOUT THE HOLY SPIRIT. This is exactly how many are in this forum, they are not born again, doesn’t know JESUS CHRIST nor the HOLY SPIRIT, yet they make so much noise in this forum, trying to contributing to every thread, trying to interpret the BIBLE they don't understand.

In the story of Apollos, we thank GOD for couple like Aquila and Pricilla, for we are told in verse 18 of Acts 26 that they took Apollos to themselves and led him to CHRIST and EXPOUNDED unto him the way of GOD more perfectly. Later in the BIBLE, Apollos was so useful because he could understand the BIBLE better because the teaching of Aquila and Priscila has great impact on him. What many people need in this forum is a teachable spirit like Apollos to be able to learn new things. They need to subject themselves to teachings of MEN OR WOMEN who know better.

The BIBLE said in Jeremiah 3:15 “And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.” There are many pastors GOD has positioned their way to feed them with knowledge and understanding.

I challenge Kunleoshb, nuclearBOY, and their groups, we are not in this forum to quarrel or call names. After all we don't know each other in person. They should stop abusing MOG or calling MOG names. They should remember the BIBLE warning in 1John 2:4-11 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.
He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

Again the BIBLE equally said in John 15:12-14 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
John 13:34-35 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

A look at verses 35 of John 13, one of the proof of our been a disciple of CHRIST is our love of other brethren. It is unimaginable for someone who calls himself a christian should open his or her mouth wide to call another christian a criminal or 419, how much more a MOG.

Let us deal drastically with spiritual IGNORANCE.

Ignorance they say is a disease, as there are awesome prize to pay for ignorance. As Bishop Oyedepo used to say, “There is no mountain any where, any man’s mountain is his ignorance”.
And as the saying goes, he who knows not and knows not that he does not know is a compound fool. However, he who know not and seeks to know is a wise man. Another pitiable situation is for one who does not know and yet claims to know. He or she will die in ignorance.
In this forum, there are many who may be academically knowledgeable but are spiritually ignorant. It is spiritual ignorance that is responsible for some of the things that are said in this forum, especially against some MOG.

Let take Oyedepo’s teaching for instance, a member of this forum posted a thread calling Oyedepo 419 based on his teaching that you don’t prosper in this kingdom by prayer but by giving. In that thread, I was expecting Earwide to prove Oyedepo wrong by providing us with examples of men and women who are prayer warriors, who are not givers but are successful because they normally command financial blessing through their prayers. In that teaching by Oyedepo, he never said that you only prosper by giving to him offering or by giving only in winners’ chapel. Members of this forum should prove Oyedepo wrong that it is possible to prosper by been a prayer warrior and not a giver.

I must confess, what I feel is wrong with Eearwide and his colleagues in this forum are there trying to using their natural reasoning and understanding to interpret the BIBLE. For GODS sake the BIBLE is a spiritual book and can never be understood or interpreted with natural reasoning or understanding. 1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

A look at some threads, the major reason why Kunleoshob and co. calls Pastor Chris criminal I believe is because they could not understand the teachings of Pastor Chris. It is lack of spiritual understanding that is responsible for their continuous criticism of Oyedepo, Mathew Ashimolowo, or Pastor Chris.

@ wetu.
You can.t say you follow Jesus while abusing HIS prophets.You can discuss issue without calling name of any MOG. Do you know what it means to call a MOG criminal? How do you feel if some call you a criminial?

Zikkyy:

^^^ I am thinking, ogoamaka99 could be a pastor.

I wish i am called to that office of a pastor. I hope that the people i am talking about has gotten the message.? I mean no offense to anyone, let us rub mind together discussing issues and not person how much more MOG.

The BIBLE made a vivid declaration in Hebrew 7:7 “And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.” People who understand this principle do everything to tap into the anointed MOG.

Abraham knew this and gave tithe to Melchizedek in Genesis 14:20 and by reason of that encounter, GOD visited him after. Is it not an irony that SOME sons of perdition and belial in this forum are saying all sort of rubbish against some MOG, while some people are planting seeds of money and expensive vehicles into the lives of these MOG.

And the BIBLE said in 2Chronicles 20:20 “Believe in the Lord your God, so shall ye be established; believe his prophets, so shall ye prosper.”
And in Hosea 12:13 “And by a prophet the Lord brought Israel out of Egypt, and by a prophet was he preserved.”

The prophets are agents of prosperity, agents of deliverance and agents of preservation etc. The reason why the devil is using the sons of perdition in this forum to say all sort of rubbish against MOG is to ensure that you don’t have encounter with these prophets of GOD. So you need to be persuaded AND PERSONALLY convinced about these MOG and don’t base your actions on the basis of what anybody is saying. Do you know that the testimony of the sons perdition about these MOG are not important, neither the testimony of ogoamaka about these MOG important? But what is important is the testimony of GOD about these MOG and secondly WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THESE MOG. What opinions do you have about these MOG? The opinions you has about these MOG, are they based on the opinions of the sons of benial and perdition or ARE YOU PERSONALLY CONVINCED ABOUT THESE MOG YOURSELF? Be careful and do not to be deceived by anybody but be persuaded yourself i.e BE PERSONALLY CONVINCED.
DON’T BE DECEIVED

Don't be deceived!

May repeat myself again, the sons of belial and perdition by their judgement said that these MOG are fraud, fake etc. But the sons of the kingdom said these MEN are great MOG and that is why they are following them. However, neither is true but what matters is what the LORD said these men are. Secondly is what you say these men are.
The sons of perdition know themselves and you know them by their fruits.

Jesus made a point in Mathew 7 vs. 16 that by their fruits you shall know them. Mathew 7:16 “Ye shall know them by their fruits”.
And Mathew 7:20 “Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them”.
The above scripture was what the sons of belial and perdition had been emphasizing referring to some MOG, claiming that the evidence or proof that these ARE TRUE MOG are the fruits they bear. I am not here to prove that they are true MOG or otherwise but to reason with you. My writing is to reason with you and to warn you to be careful not to join to condemn a man you had not proved guilty, neither should you join to praise a man you had not proved.

When we consider that these MOG command large follower ship both within and outside the country. These large followers claim that their lives had been impacted by these MOG that is why they are following these MOG. But the sons of perdition in this forum said no, that these MOG are criminals, fraud & false prophets. Now who do we believe their reports, whether the report of the followers of these MOG or the report of the sons of belial?

On the foregoing it is important to point out that what the followers of these MOG are saying are not important neither the saying of the sons of belial. But what is important is what GOD said about these MOG and secondly WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THESE MOG.

What are you saying about these MOG. Are you saying that these MOG are fraud and fake simply because the sons of belial say so or are you convinced about these MOG?

The issue is just like the incident of what happened in John 9 vs. 1 to 37. In the incident the Pharisee want every one to accept that JESUS was fake and that he is not of GOD, just as the sons of perdition want people to believe that these MOG are fake and fraud. But look at the reaction of the man that was healed in John 9:25 He answered and said whether he be a sinner or no, I know not: one thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see.
In the same vane there are many who the ministry of these MOG had touched in one way or the other. So what anybody is saying about these MOG is not important like those healed in CE healing school. They will be quick to reply the sons of perdition that whether they say that CE healing school was fake or not “one thing they know, once they were sick but now they are healed by attending CE healing school”

Finally I wish to conclude by saying that, the conclusion or the saying of the sons of perdition about these MOG are not important neither the saying of the multitude following these MOG. What is important is the conclusion of the LORD ALMIGHTY about these MOG and secondly what you have concluded about these MOG. Don't say that a fruit you have not tasted is sweet or bitter.What is the basis of your conclusion about these MOG?

poweredcom:

@poster

You are a proper Mugu, praising a pastor, who cares if he is successful, this is the tech Age we dont need all this fake religious bullshit, oya keep praising a person, who is also brainwashing you , na only pastor Chris dey see the miracle, members no dey ever

Oh! quite unfortunate for you.I wish that pastor Chris could brain wash me. It is better that your brain is washed rather than that rotten and decayed brain of yours. It is because of rotten and decayed brain that is why you could not reason well.

@nuclerBOY,
Please what is the evidence that pastor Chris said it? Paste the evidence for all to read or listen to.

@kunleoshob.
You are not a tither so why are furious about tithe? Just say your mind and stop quarreling about other people believe about tithe.

@nuclearBOY AND Enigma,

Please don't misquote pastor Chris, what is obedience? Evidence that you are a child of GOD is the life of HOLINESS and you can't live HOLY life if you are not obedience to the word of GOD.

@poster.
You want to tell me that you are the son of disobedience. If you can't obey the word of GOD why say you are a son of GOD?

The issue of tithe has been subject of great controversy. Some are testifying that the transformation of their finance was as a result of their obedience and faithfulness in tithing. Others in other hand said that tithing is not biblical and are opposed to tithing in all ramifications. They are opposed to tithing because they had not proved GOD through tithing. Because they had not proved the issue of tithing, they are ready to fight over the mention of tithing.

Now, I want to ask you, you that are tithing or not paying tithe what are your reasons? You that are tithing, have you proof for your obedience? You that are not tithing do you have reasons for your action? You that not tithing are you doing so because the sons of belial are opposed to tithing or are you convinced of your action?

In the story of Elijah and the widow of Zarephath as recoded in 1 Kings chapter 17 verses 9 to 16
" Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the Lord thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the Lord God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the Lord sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the Lord, which he spake by Elijah. "

In the above story, I wish to know, between the widow of Zarephath and Elijah who was helping who. Is the widow helping Elijah or the presence of Elijah that was helping the widow and her son?