₦airaland Forum

truthera:
To all those attacking my post here, still wallowing in self-deceit... I will ask one more question why are these states: Zamfara •Kano •Sokoto •Katsina •Bauchi •Borno •Jigawa •Kebbi •Yobe •Kaduna •Niger •Gombe implementing Sharia laws that has no provision in Nigeria's constitution? Your compromised federal government continues to collude with northern state governments to push and enshrine Sharia... They have created various Islamic legal institutions, such as a Sharia Commission, a Zakat Commission, and hisbah in these states... It will eventually spread to other states over time.... Any intelligent objective person instead of attacking this thread, should be asking how is this normal in a secular country and why is happening....

To the southerners, Non-Muslims, Christians, Traditionalists, Non-Religious and Atheists in Nigeria, I will once again reiterate that you are all living in a dangerous illusion, crafted to keep you passive, distracted.... I hope many will wake up to this reality before it is too late....

Good you are reframing your position.

The reality however is that Sharia exists constitutionally going by Sections 260 -279. You could submit your reservations for the constitutional review. Obasanjo allowed the implementation under his civilian regime for reasons best known to him.

The real issue is not the sharia itself but the tendency towards illegitimate extension into criminal law by northern states in violation of section 10 and chapter IV of fundamental rights.

It is clearly an exploitation of the constitutional design flaw. So you should ask why the federal government allows this not why the law exists.

truthera:
I know that many Nigerians especially non-Muslims living in Southern part of the country don't know that they are in an Islamic country. Only a few enlightened persons understood what Nigeria truly represents, while some of these people chose to be quiet, others like Nnamdi Kanu out of love spoke out and made several efforts to save his people, knowing fully well the dire consequences of going against the status quo....

For those Nigerians who after listening to Nnamdi Kanu, after seeing the killings, the complicity of their government pardoning terrorists, after seeing all that's happening now and still think that the country called Nigeria belongs to them, that it is a secular country, I implore you to look at your currency notes, look at the Naira notes you use everyday below and see the hidden truth in plain sight.....

How does a your secular state's currency notes being used by you a non-Muslim, having no knowledge of Islam or Arabic language and your suppose innocuous secular government has consistently decorated it with Arabic Islamic symbols and quotes.....? If you've been asleep to your reality over these incessant fulani Muslim jihadists killings I do believe that taking sometime to ponder over the mysteries of your own currency notes should serve as a wake up call..... IMHO, Nigeria an Islamic state masquerading as a cosmetic democracy belongs to the northern Islamic Fulani caliphate....

You make far reaching assumptions here.
1. Assumptions that only northerners particularly Muslim can read Arabic.

2. Misunderstanding of the use of Ajami script.

3. What are 200, 500 and 1000 in Arabic? What you have is ajami writing for these Hausa not Arabic nomenclature.
This is Hausa written in ajami in plain sight.

4. The supreme court has repeatedly upheld Section 10 of Nigeria's 1999 constitution which prohibits the adoption of a state religion at Federal or State level.

5. Why mix up apparent political dominance by a particular ethnic-religious block, structural inequity in federal institutions and theological statehood?

6. Why state incorrectly that Nnamdi Kanu didn't lead a secessionist group with documented records of violence against civilians, electoral disruption, and sit-at-home enforcement that has devastated the Southeast economy; the very people he claims to protect?

franchasofficia:
Sincerely, reading through the comments made me realize that truly Nigeria have a very long way to go.


I received this message on 18th February, I just read it and kept it to myself. But after the attack on Peter Obi's convoy in Edo of all places, I was forced to publish this personal message just so that people would read and pick one or two points from his analysis.


The Whiteman just like many other Whites saw great potential in Nigerians as a whole, he never said he saw potential in only Igbos or Yorubas. But he made it clear that his frequent visits to Nigeria just to learn more about Nigeria some many years ago opened his eyes to the reasons why Nigeria has been getting it wrong when it comes to choosing and electing leaders at the center like he called our federal government.


And if you are a smart and sincere person that read through the comments on this thread, you will realize that this Whiteman is correct to a very large extent.


If you observe on this forum for instance, when Southwest people want to criticize Peter Obi or explain why he cannot be elected President, they don't tell you that because Peter Obi is a looter or does not have the necessary leadership qualities, they will first tell you boldly that an Igbo man can never defeat Tinubu in any election in Nigeria. They will tell you that Peter Obi does not have the required party structure that kept Nigeria below par since 1999, to win Presidential election, and they forgot that the biggest structure to win any credible election is the people.


Some will tell you that Northerners will never vote Peter Obi, that how can Peter Obi win votes in core Northern states? Some will tell you that Peter Obi is Ipb sponsor and only supported by Igbos.


Some will tell you that an Igbo man will never become President of Nigeria. These are their bizarre reasons why Peter Obi can never become President of Nigeria, nothing concrete or convincing. They will never go straight and analyze Peter Obi as a person, as a politician and also analyze his manifesto and lifestyle like it should be.



But check when Igbos criticize Bola Tinubu, they tell you straight up that Tinubu is a corrupt, that he captured Lagos state for 23yrs plus and dictated who governed Lagos and how Lagos should be governed even after leaving office as Governor. They will tell you Tinubu forged his academic credentials. They will tell you Tinubu is a drg ld. They will tell you Tinubu uses ethnocentric politics to sway voters to his side. They will tell you Tinubu has destroyed Nigerian economy, brought super inflation, imposes anti-people taxes and policies. They will tell you Tinubu is aged, not physically strong and unfit to govern.


They will never tell you that because Tinubu is from the Southwest that he can never convince so so and so people to vote for him.


They will never tell you that Tinubu can never become a good President because the last Southwesterner that governed Nigeria didn't govern well or that Tinubu will fail because nobody likes people from the Southwest, instead they base their criticism of Tinubu on issues you can relate and debate. This is what a whiteman who never knew how divided Nigeria was observed yet the same people are proving the man's observation right and still arguing about it.


In fact, without the White man's observation about the skewed opinion of most Southwestern people and some Hausa-Fulanis about the Igbos, we all know this if we are to be sincere to ourselves.


For instance, if you check Nigerian statistics, it is mostly Igbos if not only Igbos that live virtually in all parts of Nigeria and not just living there, they are the only tribe that comfortably take anywhere they live as their home and invest whatever resources they make from that community back into that community and contribute to the community's growth and development despite the scars of the 4 year brutal civil war where they lost virtually all they had including properties in what was termed "abandoned properties".


Yet this same Igbos forgave all, forgot the past and accepted all Nigerian communities as their second home.


But interview people from the Southwest and ask them why they don't travel to Southeast to live, do business and invest, and hear their tales:


It's a barren region
They are very bad they don't sell land to strangers
They will destroy your properties there
Etc


Now tell the same people saying all these that from your words, it means that you have a negative mindset towards Easterners, they will scream, No oh! it's not true oh, I have Igbo friends na, how can you say that?


Talk they said is cheap, action speak louder than words. Walk your talk. Back your words with actions that people can feel. Accept who you are with pride. Own up to it.


Fulanis travel all nooks and crannies of Nigeria but they will never invest and contribute to the development of their host communities, at least majority of them, but will rather destroy it yet they don't dislike or show so much disdain for Fulanis like they show to the Southeasterners


We all know the truth in our hearts.

The world is seeing the truth and observing from afar.


I will leave you all with this message from a none Igbo man from Nigeria



https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1b1oJJXSBY/

What your preferred candidate needs to win is clear concrete policy proposals not rhetoric or for you his supporters being stuck in endless ethnic grievance cycles.

Otherwise this story telling remains only folklore.

franchasng:
I want to make this warning public ahead of 2027 so that no Nigerian will say they were not warned.


Someone who isn't a Nigerian sent me this and I almost cried reading through his words.


He said and I quote:


Whenever I look at the situation of Nigeria, I just shed tears for the entire black race. I am not black but I have had decades of encounter with a lot of black people from different African countries, and I can boldly say that blacks are one of the rarest breed of humans when it comes to being humane to mankind, but unfortunately, bad leadership at the government level has destroyed the chances of black people ever taking the center stage in global affairs, especially in technology, science, innovation, sports and entertainment. As a Caucasian, I know the privileges I have over other races right from birth. Being Caucasian already puts me ahead of other races, whether I am smart or not, whether I am humane or not, it doesn't matter. Do you know why it is so? Because pure Caucasian nations built a legacy for us from the beginning. The British, the Spanish, the Portuguese, Italians, Greeks, French, Germans, and even Russians. The exploits they did many hundreds of years ago cemented the place of glory and honor for the entire Caucasian race all over the earth. They paid the price that we modern generation of Caucasians are enjoying today.


Do you know that because of few population of Caucasians in South Africa, that is the reason South Africa is a bit advanced more than other black African nations? They enjoy a lot of secret privileges that other black African nations will never enjoy just because of the few Caucasians that naturalized in South Africa but many South Africans of the black race don't know this secret, they think they are smarter than other black Africans like Nigerian people who are super talented and smart.


I am not from the United States, I have lived there for decades before relocating back to my country because nothing feels like home. I can tell you with boldness that in the United States of America, Nigerians are one of the most educated and focused people in that country. I did a PhD program at Philadelphia and guess what? Most of my mates there were Nigerians, just few Caucasians from different countries, you hardly see Americans or Britons. These Nigerian guys were so focused, dedicated and exceptional. One made some new discoveries that won her some huge fund to pursue her research, some private firms partnered back then, I was wowed.


It was at that time, around early 2000s that I started researching about Nigeria to know more about the country because some other friends have told me about Nigerians being smart and also crooked in very interesting way, oh yes, a friend of mine from Belarus told me that some years back. He said if you want to learn unheard crooked ways to make big dirty money in the world, that you should befriend a Nigerian guy and play along with him, that you will be wowed at what these guys can do. My friend said they can compromise any system once they see the opportunity to make money from that system. After hearing a lot of good and bad stories pointing at Nigerian people, I decided to make a trip to Nigeria to know more about the country myself.


It was funny when I couldn't get a visa to visit Nigeria like some other first world countries I have visited, I was like, wow, I thought it was going to be very easy since the country had a reputation of being one of the most corrupt nations on earth with nothing going on inside the country aside some crude oil.


Finally after some months, I secured a visa and headed to Nigeria. I think it was Yaradua that was the President when I first visited Nigeria. I landed at Lagos airport, it looked really chaos on arrival, the cloud was not really looking nice and there were lots of shanty looking houses known with most black African countries, but I was really interested to know more about Nigeria haven heard so much about the citizens.


I spent 14 days in Nigeria, 5 days in Lagos, 3 days in Abuja, 2 days in Calabar, 2 days in Kaduna and 2 days in Benin city.

But when I went back, my friend said I should have visited the Eastern side, so I started making research about Eastern Nigeria then I learned about the civil war, about Onitsha, Aba, Portharcourt and Enugu. So I planned a second trip with a target to visit the Eastern side more. So during my second trip, I visited Portharcourt, Enugu, Onitsha and Owerri, I couldn't visit Aba because of a travel advisory, I had to cancel.


A few years later, I think after the death of Yaradua, I went back to Nigeria and I visited Aba, Abakaliki, Ibadan, Ondo and Kano state. After that, I started a plan to spend some of my vacation in Nigeria just to understand Nigerians the more because I wanted to see the possibility of writing a book about Nigerians, which many first world nation citizens would love to read from a Caucasian person's view.


Later on I visited Accra Ghana, Benin Republic, Togo and Gabon. I fell in love with black Africans the more and if not that I was already married and committed to my marital vows as a devout Catholic, I would have married a black woman, probably from Nigeria or Gabon because I found them more interesting.


After years of studying Nigerians right from inside Nigeria, I discovered that Nigerian people have a great potential for greatness but lacked the leadership cohesion to achieve this. Digging further, I discovered a deep-seated issue of tribal-religious division. The Northern part of Nigeria had nothing in common with the Southern part. While the Northern part lived like ancient Arab countries, the Southern part lived a typical African life of dedication to trade, business, commerce and education. I also discovered a deep-seated disdain for the Eastern Nigerians by the Western and Northern Nigerians. One of the taxi guy that drove me around in Lagos, I asked his tribe, he told me he was Yoruba, he taught me certain things about Nigeria and the different tribes, though I already knew about this but he helped broke it down.


I observed something. Anytime he wanted to say something about the Igbos, he hisses, so I decided to dig deeper one day and asked him why he doesn't like talking about Igbos. He said because they are very bad people. I was shocked to hear that. I dug deeper, so I asked him why does he think so? He said something in Pidgin English that meant he knows them very well and have dealt with them severally, that they are very terrible people that love money so much and ready to sacrifice their entire family members to make money. And he narrates all these with anger, showing he meant every word he said.


He told me they are the only tribe in Nigeria that deal on hard drugs and also do a lot of what he called money ritual, that was the first time I heard about 'money ritual', so I asked him to explain and what he explained was gory you know. But being a liberal minded person that love digging deeper, I didn't just take his words and cancelled the Igbos so I decided to pay more attention to knowing about the Igbos. Unfortunately something similar happened when I visited Ibadan and Kano. All the taxi guys had one bad thing to say about the Igbos and how they contributed so much in destroying Nigeria's image abroad, I felt pity for the Igbos because before I came to Nigeria, I didn't know that it was the Igbos that made most Caucasians I know talked bad about Nigeria. They just classified Nigerians as very corrupt and smart people.


This led me to start researching about Nigerian leadership; I got to discover that the Igbos have only been in position of leadership as the President of Nigeria in 1966 and it was for a few months and through Military mutiny. I began to wonder why the guys I met in Lagos, Ibadan and Kano believed Igbos were the reason Nigeria isn't a great country, this made me develop more interest in knowing more about the Igbos and the Nigerian politics. It was at this point that I realized that the greatest problem of Nigeria is tribal-religious division and a deep-seated hatred for the Igbos of Eastern Nigeria.


In my personal findings, I found out that the Igbos have a more liberal mind compared to the other Nigerian tribes. When I visited the Eastern side, all the interactions I had with the natives over there, including the taxi guys, none of them sounded bias in terms of ethnicity. They were more interested in knowing the country I came from and also pitching business ideas. One even told me that I can come and invest in hotel business that it was a very lucrative business. He told me that there are some hotels in his city that were built by white people like me, that if I am interested that he would help me find a land in good location in the city center, I laughed because it was interesting listening to him pitch business ideas to me.


I remember another telling me that he would love to travel out of Nigeria to study and work. When I asked him why he doesn't believe he would be better in Nigeria, he said the government is corrupt and won't allow young graduates like him in Nigeria get a job without having a connection of some sort, I immediately noticed a difference between Igbo people's assessment of why Nigeria is not working and other tribe's assessment. The other tribes condemned Igbos in the strongest words and blamed them for Nigeria's woes but the Igbos blamed people in government generally and never pointed accusing fingers at any tribe or group of people and they are eager to transact business.


Let me stop here for now so that my message won't be too lengthy for you.


I have made several researches about Nigeria's past and present leadership at the center, that is what you guys call federal government and I can tell you boldly that there is no good future for Nigeria if the current guys in charge continue. I am not proud to say this, European governments don't want Nigeria and most African countries to get it right in terms of leadership and that is why they always back the worst set of politicians to emerge leaders in black African nations. There is this guy called Peter Obi, he is a wonderful guy, I have been researching about him, I have followed all his outings and lifestyle, they are consistent and he reflects the qualities of a great leader, the type that liberated many countries in Europe and Asia. From my personal findings too, he won the last Presidential election held in Nigeria but I think because he is Igbo, the incumbent President at that time didn't trust him enough to let him pull through. Only the Nigerian masses would have fought for that guy to emerge President of Nigeria but again I am sure because he is Igbo, they didn't see the need to fight for him because most other Nigerian tribes from my personal experience believe Igbos are the problem of Nigeria and are not to be trusted.


I see the guy trying to re-contest again in 2027, but the truth is, the incumbent won't let him win, he would use every available means to stop him and only the Nigerian masses can help that guy to emerge against the several odds.


And I sincerely tell you, if Nigerians fail to elect Peter Obi as President in 2027, I doubt there will be another opportunity to get Nigeria on the right track again in the next 100 years. Leaders like this emerge once in a lifetime and when a nation misses them, it takes them centuries to get a replacement.


And when I look at the spiritual side of Nigerian issues, if I am to interpret it with what I discovered during my several visits to Nigeria, I think Peter Obi is on a divine mission. Divinity raised him to emerge from the oppressed and rejected side; the Eastern side for a reason that many Nigerians refused to see. I am a researcher, a deep seeker, I have once been close to being an Atheist, but certain events in life made me realize that life is not just ordinary the way most humans of our time believe. There is spirituality. Yes science is real, but science have failed to prove certain life events of which I will find time to compile for you when next I write you.


I know you are from the Igbo tribe in Nigeria, I am not writing all these to massage your ego, agreed Igbos have their shortcomings just like every other group of humans. In Europe, we have our differences, we have our shortcomings and that was why the first and second world wars were fought and as you can see today, Europe is made up of so many small countries that are not up to 10million. Just as you guys have what you call tribes, we also have that in Europe. Greeks are different from Italians, Norwegians are different from Finnish people. And we realized our differences on time and accepted those differences and structured Europe in such manner.


Until Nigeria gets it right, the black race will never get it right and will never take the center stage in global affairs.


I read about a newly introduced tax law in Nigeria and I felt pity for Nigerians. Nigeria is not ripe for such a law to begin with. The incumbent leadership in Nigeria is trying to copy European tax system, that is wrong, we Europeans don't even fancy the tax system even though it provides a lot of benefits for us. Nigeria have enormous crude oil, why can't the government focus on maximizing that and utilizing it faithfully to built structures and put systems in place, uplift people from extreme poverty, solve the insecurity problems before advancing to this level of tax system? It will only slow down Nigeria's possibility of coming out of the woods.


I have to go now. You guys need to intensify your efforts to elect a more credible and transparent leader in your upcoming election, the world is silently observing Nigeria. The European governments don't want you guys to get it right but many Europeans individually feel pity for Nigerians and wish you guys well, you guys have the potential to become a great nation, those of you in diaspora should work together to sensitive others. Global population is exploding, western country governments will tighten their borders more in the coming years to preserve the dwindling opportunities for their citizens, this will affect black Africans a lot if their governments don't sit up. Wishing you and Nigerians peace and love, gracias.

What position did the reverred Nnamdi Azikwe occupy?

Have there not been Senate presidents from the South East region?

Is Peter Obi you mentioned being rigged out the only valid candidate presentable from the South East?

When he gets the chance hopefully the flavour of the tea bag in water will be acceptable.

AntiChristian:
Thank you bro!

Thank you brother.

I guess the man you trusted and paid you well in the past still remains aloof?

Expressing restraint through resisting the urge to respond to taunts from antagonists is a way to maintain peace and honour.

Surah Al-Baqarah (2:212)
The life of this world has been made appealing to the disbelievers, and they mock the believers

Surah Ar-Ra'd (13:32)
And messengers before you were certainly mocked at, but I gave respite to those who disbelieved, then I seized them; then (see) how was My retribution

Surah Al-Ma'arij (70:5)
So endure with beautiful patience.This was a direct divine instruction to Prophet Muhammad facing mockery and denial of the Day of Judgment

We all know genuine questioners and those who innately mock and seek to ridicule.

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Don't wait please. Read your Bible thoroughly more. That should be better.

TenQ:
Its okay my friend.
Thanks for the clarifications.

Lets pray for a miracle of God's intervention in Nigeria that we might all prosper together in peace and unity.

Thanks a lot Bro!

Amen. Absolutely, bro. I sure enjoyed our conversation and your patience throughout the exchanges. May God bless Nigeria and grant us the wisdom and unity we seek. Thank you for engaging with me.

TenQ:
Your claim was that
But Siemens have been here since 2006 and probably before.
There's a project worth €161.33 million since December 2024 too.

And I said:
I don't know the FG terms of agreement with Siemens and no one is showing any update of work accomplished.

Lets cross our hands and watch.

Then you spoilt ot by saying :
There exactly is where you have concern. I show that there has been such agreement in the past so move your desktop literary study using the FOI and relevant elements of investigation to inquire about what is going on rather than demanding a solution that is already in place. That is more honourable.

And my response was:
I do not deny that there was a negotiation with Siemens, I only don't know what was signed with them and the level it is.

The solution is only in place AFTER execution of the plans. Can you say that about Ajaokuta Steel that has guzzled up hundreds of billions in USD with nothing to show for it?

My point here was that in Nigeria UNTIL you SEE, you don't have ANYTHING yet.

You threw in another Jab by saying
Please focus and stop jumbling matters. With or without Ajaokuta Nigeria needs power. Siemens is a relatively recent inclusion for Ajaokuta who are already multi tens of billions in Power debt. You want to Nigerianise Siemens and kill it in debt?

Think! Other steel plants in Nigeria that employed German, Japanese, or Austrian contractors had successfully begun operations without Siemens at a time ,whereas Ajaokuta, the Soviet project, has been unsuccessful for 45 years. So without the importance you place on Siemens we can have power.

Why was this comment necessary in the first place?
This was the reason I said
Can we not talk without war of words?
Is is not islamic debates with emotions also involved






Interestingly, both of us want the same thing for Nigeria here: that we solve our electric power supply problem. Which is noble and good.
If we have any differences, it is about whether the major problem was the Generation or the Transmission limitations .

We agree on in adequate political will of our leaders.
We agree on corruption as a factor preventing this.


So, I don't understand where the fights erupted from.



I think irrespective of the fact that we disagree on spiritual matters, it doesn't make us enemies of each other especially when we have an issue we both want our country to resolve.

You’re correct that we both see the main issue which is a lack of political accountability that's causing dysfunction in generation, transmission, gas supply, and tariff structures. Our disagreement lies in the approach: you suggested hypothetical solutions, like hiring Siemens for a 20GW turnkey project. I noted that Siemens is already under contract. Then you brought up Ajaokuta as a counter-example, but I felt that mixed together different system failures. My main concern is that Nigeria's power infrastructure has many facets, and each one needs to be addressed without dragging in the historical issues of the others. That was my only point. If my tone came across as sharp, it’s something that happens in technical discussions. We both want reliable power for Nigeria, and that shared goal is what truly matters.

TenQ:
I can understand!
When a person is beaten blue-black in the knowledge he prides himself in, he looks for every opportunity of a return match on a different terrain.

Sorry!

No be every thing be fight and quarrel.

Can you reaccess your statement? Do you not notice the tone you use and what it says about you? A discussion looking around the challenges with power infrastructure and how it becomes an uphill you have turned into a boxing match.

See how you brought in Ajaokuta not functioning which is fairly outside the discussion being that power constraint is not the singular issue behind its not being functional. Power is essential but not the main issue there. Focus and clarity not everything all together. Don't you know about mutually exclusive processes in an integrated system?
Even if the 110 MW captive power plant in the Ajaokuta complex were fully operational, the mill still wouldn't be able to produce liquid steel without proper logistical integration of raw materials.

Step back and address issues one at a time through components before the functioning whole. Thinking holistically before you get started is quite awkward.

The discussion was straightforward: Siemens is already collaborating with Nigeria on power infrastructure, which speaks for itself. The real confusion arises from mixing this with the 45-year Soviet failure at Ajaokuta across various systems, rather than providing clarity.

TenQ:
Can we not talk without war of words?
Is is not islamic debates with emotions also involved

Appreciate sharing how complicated 'simple solutions' are in the Nigeria space. Enjoy your weekend.

TenQ:
I do not deny that there was a negotiation with Siemens, I only don't know what was signed with them and the level it is.

The solution is only in place AFTER execution of the plans. Can tou say that about Ajaokuta Steel that has guzzled up hundreds of billions in USD with nothing to show for it?

Please focus and stop jumbling matters. With or without Ajaokuta Nigeria needs power. Siemens is a relatively recent inclusion for Ajaokuta who are already multi tens of billions in Power debt. You want to Nigerianise Siemens and kill it in debt?

Think! Other steel plants in Nigeria that employed German, Japanese, or Austrian contractors had successfully begun operations without Siemens at a time ,whereas Ajaokuta, the Soviet project, has been unsuccessful for 45 years. So without the importance you place on Siemens we can have power.

TenQ:
I don't know the FG terms of agreement with Siemens and no one is showing any update of work accomplished.

Lets cross our hands and watch.

Have a good night rest

There exactly is where you have concern. I show that there has been such agreement in the past so move your desktop literary study using the FOI and relevant elements of investigation to inquire about what is going on rather than demanding a solution that is already in place. That is more honourable.

TenQ:
What do you think would happen if a company like Siemens is contracted to build a 20GW turbine station powered from direct supply of crude oil?

Do you think the company cannot build a Modular Refinery to produce the kind of fuel required fro their turbines?

Do you think that a company like Siemens after Building such a power station cannot build parallel national grid for its energy distribution?


Unfortunately,even if our politicians are convinced to do this, they will look for a Chinese or Indian company to execute the project rather than giving it to a German, UK, Korean, Israeli or Japanese companies?

But Siemens have been here since 2006 and probably before.
There's a project worth €161.33 million since December 2024 too.

TenQ:
The problem is when you put politicians in charge of Technological Innovation and Development. They will leave the problem to face their personal gains.


This played out just recently in our Senate.
1. Who in Nigeria doesn't know that we need electoral reform?
2. Who doesn't know that a core part of the reform is transparency in transmission of results
3. Who doesn't know that real time transmission of results will curb electoral malpractices

BUT,
Your Senators said that because there are 9 states with insecurity problems, this will NOT be possible because the Mobile Network Masts and systems MAY be disabled.

1. They forgot that humans will conduct the elections and they should solve this security problem. If elections will take place in the 9 states, there is no excuse for the mobile network not tonwork.
2. They forgot that Starlink system can be deployed for those 9 states to guarantee internet accessibility.

Its the same problem: our politicians!

You're right—the problem isn't the presence of politicians in Nigeria; it's that ours operate without accountability.

The power sector illustrates the difficulties within our electoral system:

1. Tariff Politics: Keeping prices low for the sake of popularity results in revenue shortfalls for generation companies, leading to neglected maintenance and bailouts instead of essential reforms.

2. Gas-to-Power Breakdown: Unpaid gas suppliers lead to supply disruptions, leaving turbines idle despite their potential, which fosters the narrative of technical constraints.

3. Grid Bottleneck: Weak transmission limits output, so even though we have available generation, it cannot be distributed effectively, causing persistent blackouts despite installed capacity. This is key to the initial Nnaji recommendation from his time as minister that I referred you to.

4. Reform Without Reform: Subsidies, emergency repairs, fuel imports, and opaque contracts become more lucrative than ensuring a consistent supply, turning dysfunction into a profitable model.

Countries that function well don’t have fewer politicians; they enforce accountability. Here, the institutions meant to restrict power are instead dominated by it.

TenQ:
After going round and round, you finally agreed that the problem is that we are not even generating enough.

Fuel for turbines are not rocket fuels virtually any fuel type will work. Turbines are not as picky as internal combustion engine for the FUEL type used.

Feed Syngas into a gas turbine sir it will work fine!

If it's just as simple as you put it then it would have been long done. The issue goes beyond low generation; even operational plants cannot function without a steady supply of fuel and guaranteed payments. Additionally, poor maintenance, vandalism, and inefficiencies in the grid worsen the bottleneck.

TenQ:
Do you know that Nigeria should NEVER complain about gas shortages because we have OIL and we flare our gas during refining crude.

Most turbines can work with BOTH gas and liquid fuel. Honestly, we have no excuse.

I think you are still getting your data skewed
1. Installed Capacity 13GW
This is the total power if ALL our generators are functioning. It includes turbines that are damaged or no more in use
2. Wheeling Capacity 8-8.5GW
This is the maximum power our grid can safety carry.
3. Generated Power 3.5GW to 6GW
This is the range of our power generation. We are not even close to our wheeling capacity of 8-8.5GW capacity because our average generation is about 3.6 GW.


Our grid will start becoming a problem when we are generating more than the 8GW power because the demand will stress the grid line

Flared gas isn't power fuel; it remains stranded, unprocessed, and disconnected from turbines. Most power plants in Nigeria run solely on gas, with only a few dual-fuel units available. Operating on diesel is two to three times more expensive. The installed capacity of 13 GW includes plants that are currently inactive, but their inactivity is due to gas shortages, lack of payment, and inadequate maintenance not because of nonexistent capacity. This is why generation typically falls between 3.5 and 5 GW and less, which is significantly lower than the transmission capacity of 8 to 8.5 GW. The primary limitation is the availability of generation not the grid until improvements are made to gas infrastructure and payment practices.

TenQ:
I understand you perfectly,only that Nigeria had never used up nor maximized the national grid capacity.

Nigeria's national grid transmission (wheeling) capacity stands at approximately 8,000-8,700 MW reliable limit as of early this year. BUT here we are in 2026 never able to push a mere 6GW into the line.

So. you see that the problem is more of generation rather than transmission line capacity.

Nigeria's power grid isn't underutilized due to a lack of plants or weak infrastructure. The installed generation capacity is approximately 13.6 GW, while reliable transmission hovers around 8 to 8.7 GW. However, less than 5 GW is operational, as gas shortages, non-payment issues, vandalism, and maintenance failures leave many plants idle. The centralized, government-owned transmission system contributes to significant technical losses, congestion, and risks of single-point failures. While local or embedded generation can circumvent these losses, it may involve higher upfront costs for local transmission. Ultimately, the main challenges stem from gas availability, cash flow issues, and inefficiencies within the centralized grid not from the generation equipment itself.

TenQ:
I am so sorry, I don't know why the bots deleted my post.

I am not sure Nigeria ever generated more than 7GW of power at any time since inception. I stand to be corrected.

Please confirm!

The problem of national grid shutdown is usually caused when one generator suddenly packs up resulting in a spike in load on the other generators because we are not generating enough power. This sudden spike causes overload on the other generators so that they shut down (for their protection).

Switching them back on has to be sequential with load being systematically added on the national grid until it aligns with the magnitude of supply. This is what causes the national grid collapse we often witness.

We are stressing the generation because of underproduction of power. Even, a shut down of a distribution node is enough to cause an instability in the network synchronization.

If we increase the generation, we will witness fewer national grid collapse and we can then begin to increase the distribution network capacity.

The problem is systemic, not isolated. Fairly recently, Nigeria's maximum official power generation peaked at 5,375 MW in February 2024, and we have never reached 7 GW due to several issues:
Gas supply problems seen with IPPs like Papalanto lacking guaranteed gas supply. Even Sahara Energy managing Egbin has it's challenges.

Idle capacity is seen where power plants exist but can't operate due to unavailable pipelines or gas.

GenCos face shutdowns because DisCos are not making payments.

Your analysis is correct that low generation leads to grid instability; if one plant shuts down, others may follow, resulting in widespread failure. Then realistically how much of the transmission lines due to be replaced have been?

Although we have 13 GW of installed capacity, we only transmit 4-5 GW because the transmission lines can't support more power even if we are able to generate this much.

Barth Nnaji points out that the power sector needs tariffs that accurately reflect electricity costs, private investments, and infrastructure upgrades simultaneously, not in sequence.

Fortunately some progress has been made towards reducing line losses seen in transmitting generated power to a centre and then distribution. At least Aba's example is visible.

This whole thing with the Port Harcourt refinery and Atiku's comments really shows the tough spot Nigeria is on this refinery problem that just keeps dragging on. I mean, the debate about spending all that money and still not getting anything working, is the same arguments over and over.

What might have gone on with that $1.5 billion they poured into fixing up the Port Harcourt place? Atiku says NNPC finally admitted it's a waste, after all those years of saying it was almost ready. And yeah, that matches what I've heard, how the refinery gets declared operational a bunch of times but then nothing happens, no real output. Billions vanish into these maintenance projects, and it seems like politics pushes the decisions more than any solid economic plan. Continuing the process of wasted turn around maintenance even before 2001 when I first visited coupled with sabotage in form of vandalism and theft.

Probably, the Buhari and Tinubu governments got trapped by their own promises to bring the refineries back as some kind of national pride thing. Then engineers look closer and realize the costs are way higher, like three or four times what they thought, and even after that, the setups are old and not worth it. Plus, with Dangote's big private refinery starting up, the government ones just don't make sense anymore economically. So now NNPC is sort of stepping back quietly, talking about optimizing resources instead of sayring outright it failed.

Atiku has a point on the economics, I think. These state refineries have been sucking up money for decades without producing much, paying people to sit around in empty facilities. Privatizing could bring in real efficiency, make things accountable, and that $1.5 billion might have gone to something useful instead. But then the response to him points out the hypocrisy, how the same people who yelled about Obasanjo selling refineries back in 2007 are now pushing for it again.

That 2007 thing during Obasanjo and Atiku's time, there were pushes to sell or privatize, but it blew up with all this opposition. People accused them of selling cheap to cronies, no transparency, even breaking rules. It got messy fast.

The big issue with privatization in Nigeria, it keeps failing for reasons that make sense but are hard to fix. Like, who ends up owning them, the highest bidder or just connected elites? Will they get fair prices or dumped off cheap? And what about the workers, do they keep jobs or get laid off? From what I know of past privatizations, assets often went to political insiders at weird deals, so trust is low.

There's also this idea that refineries are national assets, symbols of controlling our own oil, jobs for thousands, showing we can do industry. Even if they're losing money, giving them up feels like losing sovereignty or risking monopoly by private guys. Politically, any leader trying to sell them gets hit with selling the family silver cries, even if it's smart money-wise.

Subsidies everywhere, politics messing with management, no penalties for failing, corruption in buying parts and fixing things. So yeah, you see the waste in the reports, but it keeps happening.

Perhaps the NNPCL should be converted into something more practical and useful outside refining and the true private sector allowed to do it. This isn't limited to Dangote as there are other smaller refiners. Also, concerns of Captain Ihenacho then with Integrated oil about government fixing the price of refined products has been fairly settled with the PIA.

TenQ:
The problem of Electricity in Nigeria is two or three folds
1. Corruption
2. Politics
3. Political will of the president

Anyone with fair technical competence know that the FIRST problem of Electricity in Nigeria is NOT distribution but Generation . We need nothing less than 10GW of Electricity but we generate at best 4GW.

These people know this, but it is easier for them to make money from distribution. How can one solve a problem of distributing what is not available in the first place?

Except the President himself doesn't want the problem of power generation solved, give me 18 months, I will solve the problem.

You exactly prove my point that you will more likely get in then learn perharps without results.

Nigeria's electricity issue isn't about generation. The installed capacity stands at approximately 13–14 GW; even if 4–5 GW at most actually reach consumers because the transmission and distribution systems are unable to handle more.

Power plants frequently remain idle due to grid limitations and non-payment issues. Distribution serves as the financial bottleneck, plagued by significant losses, inadequate collection efforts, and unpaid government bills.

Increasing generation without addressing evacuation and payment will lead to wasted capacity. This challenge cannot be resolved solely through presidential determination within an 18-month timeframe.

I see you don't even know Barth Nnaji 's submissions. Do better non hasty research.

TenQ:
Give me 18 months and I will deliver at least 10GW electrical power to Nigerians.

The problem is when politicians and businesses men are put in charge of national assets

When you get the opportunity the reality of outside the norm challenges will become obvious to you. What did Bola Ige of blessed memory say? Fashola I think also spoke. Nnaji was quite technical but got swallowed and discarded by the system, politics and perharps some personal ambition. You think you understand the rot in the equipment and system? You will be surprised.

Racoon:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2026/02/genocide-on-christians-us-congress-urges-stricter-action-to-enforce-global-religious-freedom/

Although Nigeria's insecurity existed before the CPC designation, the period following this designation has seen a significant rise in the frequency, geographical spread, and deadliness of attacks, indicating an escalation of violence rather than just a continuation.

Is this worth any added concern in a bid to stop the false religious flag around it? Truth is all sorts of arson and economic robbery go along when you consider huge ransom request as well as plain robbery. Most disturbing is the murder and destruction of property including land resources.

oz4real83:
How about the man she committed the crime with? Nothing happens to him as usual, bunch of hypocrites

Read again and comprehend. It says and her lover and each was flogged.

PeopleStructure:
It's actually fearful and in our faces without even attempting to hide it anymore. Clear sign of their belief that the spirit of the Nigerian people have been conquered in their fight against the crookery of their leaders.

The only way out is revolution!

It actually goes beyond Nigeria but fear not, do your best, be the best you can and encourage others to in your journey through.

Is there really a way out? Either way the system is controlled by the same group.

Bahamas95:
You see how selfish and useless these people are?

I always wonder if they have brains at all, whenever they open their mouths sheet must drop.

Perharps they technically appear to re-call or increase the pressure to close one or both arms of the Senate and representatives. Surely there are more effective and less costly ways to do what they 'seem' to do. The military dictatorship however bad did this and we didn't contend with this level of insurgency. Going back to them now by my thoughts is less likely to be effective as the inefficiency has become of almost all systems.

Do you get elected to serve or be favoured with protection and other benefits above the general populace?

An eye for an eye will leave us all blind.


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