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Gabrielshow24:
I appeal to the scientific mind! Thanks, I told him that plainly as well but he seemed not to get it so I resorted to using scientific principles to sell my point!

In meaningful communication it is important to consider the intellectual capacity and ability of your audience. You risk loosing desired result when your language confuses them

Gabrielshow24:
No need for redundancy, The symbolic phrase "fullness of God" is not assigned to other prophets 👀. We all know the end you hope to achieve with this sentiment—The inconspicuous introduction of Mohammed 🤨!

Also, when animals with horns are being called out, we do not expect snails to come forth!

However it is not in doubt that this statement is made by Paul who didn't physically meet Jesus during his prophethood or evangelism.

I am not introducing anything but pointing you to an exaggeration you choose to accept.

Gabrielshow24:
Thank you, If only you used such honesty when it's needed!

Also, I have exemplified that to boomark, that God's actual essence, Infinite-D as I like to call it, was not seen by them! Thus, Jesus was right when he said so even though prophets before him had seen 3-D depictions of God!

Infinite D, 3-D, 5-D may not be necessary when you want to explain simply. Using these make you seem like another group that claim an odd awareness or frequency spiritism. The ones I know are atheists

Gabrielshow24:
Hi, People of academia, do you accept the bolded explanation given by boomark, the supposed slayers of l.ies!

Even in this response, he didn't reconcile Jesus' speech with other instances of the prophet of old seeing the Ancient of days! Even John that said so also declared in Revelation seeing the ancient of days and the lamb! In his special waec centred wisdom, he thinks he has resolved this "contradiction" 😂!

All of them don't know how to take the bible in whole, like I have said before I repeat it again for the purpose of clarity!

Jesus' speech highlights the fact that men are tuned to seeing things in 3-D and thus it's practically impossible to see an infinite-Dimensioned God! Hence no man has seen God in his true form —Infinite-D. All we have seen are similitudes in 3-D contexts to pass across the message of Majesty and Power to the viewer!

Also he has a skewed perception of trinity! No man claims the Father is the Son, we claim they have the same Essence and Nature! — The nature that implicitly encapsulates the concept called God!

No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

The phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus. It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority—similar to other prophets.

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of God like the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

Gabrielshow24:
Hi, People of academia, do you accept the bolded explanation given by boomark, the supposed slayers of l.ies!

Even in this response, he didn't reconcile Jesus' speech with other instances of the prophet of old seeing the Ancient of days! Even John that said so also declared in Revelation seeing the ancient of days and the lamb! In his special waec centred wisdom, he thinks he has resolved this "contradiction" 😂!

All of them don't know how to take the bible in whole, like I have said before I repeat it again for the purpose of clarity!

Jesus' speech highlights the fact that men are tuned to seeing things in 3-D and thus it's practically impossible to see an infinite-Dimensioned God! Hence no man has seen God in his true form —Infinite-D. All we have seen are similitudes in 3-D contexts to pass across the message of Majesty and Power to the viewer!

Also he has a skewed perception of trinity! No man claims the Father is the Son, we claim they have the same Essence and Nature! — The nature that implicitly encapsulates the concept called God!

You ought to know that the phrase the fullness of God dwells in Christ (Colossians 2:9) is a metaphor that Paul uses, not Jesus.

It doesn’t imply that Jesus is God; instead, it suggests that Jesus embodies God’s wisdom, guidance, and authority [size=13pt]similar to other prophets.[/size]


No one has ever truly seen God in His complete divine form, as the Scriptures make it clear that no one can see God and survive (Exodus 33:20, John 1:18).

Prophets like Isaiah, Ezekiel, and Daniel experienced visions or symbolic representations of Godlike the Ancient of Days but they didn’t encounter His actual essence.

These appearances, known as theophanies, were limited and often veiled, taking forms like fire, cloud, or an angel.

Take note and understand theophany and it's use in the scripture.

TenQ:
You are still spilling out the misinformation your prophet taught you.
No wonder, Adam was created in the physical image of Allah!

The Al-Makr has Deceived you: this is why you need redemption. The 419 has swindled you with fake salvation receipt, come to the Messiah for the original

A claimed knowledgeable is ignorant. What is the correct information of the unitary almighty God that you claim is trinity?

Remember you are the one likening what you worship to a human that has a spiritual and soul aspect.

Address this first before showing more depth of your ignorance.

TenQ:
And his body is physical!?

Khai!
Can you be redeemed at all!!

It's your folly. That the shaitan has a physical body that will be burnt though different from the human body is the point.

Redeemed by who? You that is in need of redemption?

Anyway explain your trinity redeemer first. I insist you cannot.

MightySparrow:
Which of the main doctrines of the Christian Faith is not confusion so to speak: the virgin conception of Jesus? His atoning death? His resurrection?, His ascension? His promise of coming back? Resurrection of the dead? New birth?

Everything in Christianity is not logical in the actual sense. If I believe in all above, why can't I believe in a triune God?

Virgin conception is confusing only because you have a diminutive view of the almighty and only God. Aren't there creations of God that don't require a pair to propagate?

If as you say Christianity isn't logical then is it a religion for the irrational? Please review your statements before you make them

TenQ:
A classic example of Why Islam is said to be dumb: this is a classic example.

So, you think the Fire of Hell is physical?
SMH? Will Shaitan be in the fire?

Khai!
SMH!

No wonder. You don't know shaitan has a body even if different from yours. 🤣🤣🤣

Again it is your Christian belief that you wouldn't bodily enter paradise.

In any case this isn't the main issue. Explain your trinity in non confusing terms Tenq diversionary expert

TenQ:
Your question shows complete IGNORANCE of what you think you mean: it's like claiming the CONFUSION of Scientists about their claim of the fact that i=✓(-1) when you don't even know a hoot about complex numbers!


Let me ask you a question because
As Christians, we believe that a human being is created as a Trinity of his Body, Soul and Spirit.
If you do not understand the Trinity or Duality of Man, how can you understand the Trinity of God?


If indeed it is true according to your prophet that Moses (as an example of prophets) is in his grave doing salat: how was it that your prophet discussed with him when he travelled to paradise on the Al-Burak?

You start with your analogy of claiming confusion of scientists and your trinity definitely because the concept is nothing other than confusion.

The imaginary root is accurately described and understood by scientists though. So there goes another lie of yours.

The utility and consistency of complex numbers, built upon the imaginary unit, are widely accepted and applied. It seems you are also stating the imaginary nature of your TRINITY. LOL

TenQ:
Like I said:
Until you understand the basics, there is no point explaining what is beyond your ability to comprehend. It would be a waste of time explaining to an ignorant and uneducated fellow how i=✓(-1) without this person understanding basic mathematics.

So likewise and in parallel to your question, I am giving you back your question to show the deep ignorance behind it.
1. When your body dies, does your Nafs/Ruh die too?
2. When you die, why is your Soul questioned and not your body? Is your Soul co-equal to your body?
3. If your body truly died, why didn't your soul die too?

SMH!
Deep ignorance!

You enter paradise in spirit but those in hell have their spirit or body repeatedly burning?

Can fire burn the spirit?

Bring a mathematical jargon to show this.

TenQ:
Like I said:
Until you understand the basics, there is no point explaining what is beyond your ability to comprehend. It would be a waste of time explaining to an ignorant and uneducated fellow how i=✓(-1) without this person understanding basic mathematics.

So likewise and in parallel to your question, I am giving you back your question to show the deep ignorance behind it.
1. When your body dies, does your Nafs/Ruh die too?
2. When you die, why is your Soul questioned and not your body? Is your Soul co-equal to your body?
3. If your body truly died, why didn't your soul die too?

SMH!
Deep ignorance!

You see how you again start with your equation then divert from it?

Mr nonsensical confusion player why don't you explain the basics you feel I don't understand then show how it applies to your view of trinity?

The same old you cannot explain because you definitely confuse yourself in linking it.

TenQ:
Why don't you explain this first
1. How Moses can be in his grave praying and at the same time in paradise discussing with Mohammed?
2. What does it mean that Adam was created in the image of Adam?


If you don't even understand the concept of Trinity, it is as good as arguing with a person who doesn't understand how i=✓(-1) .
Therefore, understand what you are arguing against first before making yourself look like a full blown pack of balloon.

The concept of Trinity had been explained to the walls without ears and intelligence to a point of excesses
Again:
1. YHWH is ONE
2. This One YHWH has three IDENTITIES as the Holy Spirit, the Word and the Father.
3. There is NOTHING in existence that is like YHWH and Humans are created in His Image as a Limited Trinity
4. YHWH as the Holy Spirit is His Omnipresence and the whole Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is Contained in Him. God as the Father is the Visible Image of the Invisible God in the Spiritual Realm where He presides over His Creation. God as the Word is the Conveyor of the Will and Command for Creation of Everything.
5. YHWH as the Word became the Limited Human known on Earth as JESUS
6. YHWH is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. YHWH can be somewhere and Everywhere at the same time.


Because you still wouldn't here nor understand simple spiritual things, let me help you with knowledge from your prophet


Your prophet said:
When a person dies, two angels Al-Munkar and An-Nakir will ask the Soul of the dead three questions
Who is your Lord?
What is your religion?
Who is your Prophet?

Tell me, how come the Soul of a man is Different from the Body BUT the Soul answers for the Body of the person? Tell me how the body can be dead but the soul is Alive?

But, dry walls will not hear, neither will they think!

At least I have shown you that Allah cannot be Omnipresent and neither is he Omnipotent and certainly not Omniscient. These alone disqualifies him as the Creator of Everything.

When the Body of your crucified Jesus was dead was his soul or spirit part in your trinity dead or alive? Then the father too?

Does your trinity not say they are all co equal, existing etc..?

Please tell why the coequality didn't all die and resurrect? Then when they were dead how come the world didn't seize to exist?

TenQ:
Why don't you explain this first
1. How Moses can be in his grave praying and at the same time in paradise discussing with Mohammed?
2. What does it mean that Adam was created in the image of Adam?


If you don't even understand the concept of Trinity, it is as good as arguing with a person who doesn't understand how i=✓(-1) .
Therefore, understand what you are arguing against first before making yourself look like a full blown pack of balloon.

The concept of Trinity had been explained to the walls without ears and intelligence to a point of excesses
Again:
1. YHWH is ONE
2. This One YHWH has three IDENTITIES as the Holy Spirit, the Word and the Father.
3. There is NOTHING in existence that is like YHWH and Humans are created in His Image as a Limited Trinity
4. YHWH as the Holy Spirit is His Omnipresence and the whole Universe (Physical and Spiritual) is Contained in Him. God as the Father is the Visible Image of the Invisible God in the Spiritual Realm where He presides over His Creation. God as the Word is the Conveyor of the Will and Command for Creation of Everything.
5. YHWH as the Word became the Limited Human known on Earth as JESUS
6. YHWH is Omnipresent, Omnipotent and Omniscient. YHWH can be somewhere and Everywhere at the same time.


Because you still wouldn't here nor understand simple spiritual things, let me help you with knowledge from your prophet


Your prophet said:
When a person dies, two angels Al-Munkar and An-Nakir will ask the Soul of the dead three questions
Who is your Lord?
What is your religion?
Who is your Prophet?

Tell me, how come the Soul of a man is Different from the Body BUT the Soul answers for the Body of the person? Tell me how the body can be dead but the soul is Alive?

But, dry walls will not hear, neither will they think!

At least I have shown you that Allah cannot be Omnipresent and neither is he Omnipotent and certainly not Omniscient. These alone disqualifies him as the Creator of Everything.

A liar will always make new statements to divert.

"And do not say of those who are slain in the way of Allah, ‘They are dead.’ Rather, they are alive, but you perceive not."
Surah Al-Baqarah (2:154);

You want to know and see the spirits of prophets and the righteous praying? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You probably might when you exist solely in the spirit form.

Are you trying to redefine i as a non abstract
which exists outside the number line of real numbers?

Is it a falsehood that abstract nature of mathematics means that its truth and reality are distinct from the empirical truth and physical reality we experience? ? ?

TenQ:
Your question shows complete IGNORANCE of what you think you mean: it's like claiming the CONFUSION of Scientists about their claim of the fact that i=✓(-1) when you don't even know a hoot about complex numbers!


Let me ask you a question because
As Christians, we believe that a human being is created as a Trinity of his Body, Soul and Spirit.
If you do not understand the Trinity or Duality of Man, how can you understand the Trinity of God?


If indeed it is true according to your prophet that Moses (as an example of prophets) is in his grave doing salat: how was it that your prophet discussed with him when he travelled to paradise on the Al-Burak?

The way you run to the defined abstracts of mathematical principles shows you cannot explain your belief in clear terms. Lie that you will not introduced the imaginary unit, i, to provide solutions to equations that have no real number solutions,

Do you disagree that the Trinity is made up of three distinct persons who are unified, co-equal, and co-eternal? This is quite different from how human beings are made up of parts that, while essential, don’t have their own separate personalities or roles so that human analogy fails flat.

Ken4Christ:
There's no human born on earth that can claim he is sinless. Only Jesus has that exclusive claim.

There are no two ways to interpret John 14:6. Jesus didn’t only claim to be the way, he said that no one can come to the Father except through him. There's is no ambiguity in this statement. And it is backed up by many other scriptures.

Jesus didn’t uphold the Old Testament laws. He ended it. This is what the word fulfill means in Matthew 5:17-18. Jesus has fulfilled the law, bringing a justified end to it. This truth is repeated over and over again in the letters of Paul.

Interesting it is that you state the law of the old testament ended when Jesus says Jesus warns that even the smallest letter of the law holds significance in Matthew 5:18, indicating that all aspects of the Old Testament retain their value.

What interpretation are you alluding to?


Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven…”
— Matthew 5:17–19

TenQ:
All I ask is WHY is there a 500 years delay for a rich man to enter paradise?

Just to satisfy my best effort to answer your usual bother.

The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich.

The Prophet (pbuh) often emphasized the virtues of the poor, providing comfort and a spiritual outlook for those facing hardships. This isn’t about condemning wealth itself.

This hadith doesn’t criticize all wealthy individuals; rather, it serves as a caution about the pitfalls of wealth, the delays in accountability, and a reminder that being poor in this world doesn’t mean you’re out of favor with God.

2. Why 500 Years Before?

1. Wealthy individuals have more to answer for.
They must account for how they earned their money, how they spent it, and whether they gave zakah, helped others, or hoarded it. This results in a longer reckoning (ḥisāb) on the Day of Judgment. Consequently, the poor, with fewer responsibilities, are judged more swiftly and can enter Paradise sooner.

2. Five Hundred Years = A Half-Day in the Hereafter
According to Qur’an 32:5:
“A day with your Lord is like a thousand years of what you count.”
So, 500 years is just half a day in God’s eyes—not a literal measure of time, but a metaphor for delay and anticipation.

3. Spiritual Honor & Consolation
The poor often endure suffering in this life. Allah honors them by granting them early access to Paradise as a reward for their patience and their lack of worldly excess.

3. Does That Mean All Poor Are Better Than the Rich?
Not at all.
Islam doesn’t glorify poverty itself. Instead:
Poverty accompanied by patience and righteousness is esteemed.
Wealth that is met with gratitude and generosity is also commendable.

The Prophet (pbuh) said:
“How excellent is wealth for a righteous man!” (Musnad Ahmad, Sahih)

Thus, wealthy believers who give, engage in charity, and remain humble will also find their way to Paradise, but they will face a longer period of accountability.

4. Balance in Other Hadiths

To avoid any misconceptions, Islam presents a balanced perspective.

The Prophet (pbuh) also cautioned the poor.
Some among the poor may face punishment for harboring envy or begging unnecessarily.

He also spoke of the righteous wealthy (like Abu Bakr, Uthman, Abdul Rahman ibn Awf) saying that there’s no harm in a wealthy person who is God-fearing.

So, entry to Paradise isn’t determined by wealth but by God consciousness;Taqwa, good deeds, patience in hardship and gratitude in wealth.

5. Spiritual Lessons from the Hadith
Accountability grows with blessings.
Wealth serves as a test, often leading to a delayed entry due to extended judgment.

Avoid envying the wealthy.
The luxuries they enjoy today might come with their own set of delays or burdens tomorrow.

Being poor isn’t a curse.
With patience and sincerity, poverty can actually pave the way to Paradise more swiftly.

Spend wealth wisely.
Those with riches should focus on spending, giving, and living humbly — as their Day of Judgment will be more extensive.

Related Quranic Reminder:
“Then you will surely be asked that Day about the pleasures (you enjoyed).”
— Qur’an 102:8

This encompasses every extra meal, piece of clothing, home, car, and comfort. Therefore, the less one possesses, the fewer questions they’ll face, leading to a quicker entrance.

The hadith in Tirmidhi reminds us that:

Wealth comes with responsibility, which can slow down the path to Paradise.

The righteous poor will be honored with an earlier entry into Paradise — 500 years ahead of the wealthy.

It’s a reminder for all believers to be mindful of Allah, manage wealth thoughtfully, and remain humble, no matter their status.

TenQ:
The words of Jesus is easy to understand sir and it has NOTHING to do with Timings.

Jesus was known to teach with Parables, Figures of Speech, Metaphors and Similes, Proverbs and story telling, you will see that this teaching of Jesus was a hyperbole teaching that you cannot enter Paradise with the load of your wealth!

The meaning: A rich man depends more on his riches than God in this life. Thus, it is more difficult for him to find salvation for his soul.
Thus, Jesus teaches that the cares of this world facilitated with riches if not striped off will prevent a rich man from entering paradise.


Now, back to your Hadith. It was a flat statement by Mohammed about a DELAY or WAITING period for the Rich to Enter Paradise.

Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2351
Abu Sa'eed narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said: "The poor Muhajirin will enter Paradise before the rich among them by five hundred years."


What is the sense in this?
Your EXPLANATION:
What is the sense in a Rich Pious Muslim waiting 500 years before being admitted into Paradise?

What is his offence?
Don't forget that Allah's destiny made him both Rich and Religious at the same time!

What are you saying about timing?
You then go into a needless epistle talking anout parables.
You forget about time with God and time with mankind?

TenQ:
All I ask is WHY is there a 500 years delay for a rich man to enter paradise?

You must say something to show you die fighting or arguing? It's relativity and it shouldn't be misinterpreted to mean that there aren't rich men who are also amongst the first entrants into paradise.
You seem to allude imperfection in Allah's perfect justice, mercy and reward?

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the only way to God. He proved it:

1. He was born sinless. And that qualified him to be the only perfect sin sacrifice for mankind.
2. He lived a sinless life.
3. He willingly gave up his life to save mankind.
4. He defeated Satan in his domain; hell and took the keys of death and hell from him - Revelation 1:18.
5. He conquered death by rising from the dead.
6. He ascended back to heaven visibly to God.

No one else in the history of the earth that meets any of this criteria. So, you had better follow His teachings and accept him as your Lord and Saviour.

Other prophets were known for their righteousness, living sinless lives, and being chosen by God.

The idea of salvation through repentance and obedience to God is a recurring theme throughout the Bible (for instance, Ezekiel 18:21-22, Micah 6:6–8, Matthew 7:21).

When we look at the “only way” statement in John 14:6 ("I am the way..." ), it can be interpreted in a couple of ways:

Contextually: It speaks to the specific time and audience.

Prophetically: It suggests that Jesus serves as a guide to God, rather than being God himself.

Jesus never claimed to be the only path in a way that dismissed earlier prophets. In fact, he respected them and upheld the teachings of the Torah (Matthew 5:17–19).

God’s mercy and justice extend beyond just one person or time period. Many generations existed before Jesus, and their connection to God was very much alive.

Jesus is a significant prophet, messenger, and the Messiah. The latter meaning chosen, honored, and appointed by God for prophetic mission, a sign of one born without a man impregnating a woman (I ponder the biblical inclusion of Joseph to sway this fact)
not necessarily that he is the only way to salvation, nor that he is divine.

A source of salvation for those who embrace his teachings not the only means of salvation.

God has consistently provided guidance through various prophets and scriptures.

“To every nation a messenger.” — (Qur’an 10:47)

“The one who does the will of My Father... shall enter the kingdom of heaven.” — (Matthew 7:21)

Ultimately, salvation comes through God’s mercy, following His guidance, and living righteously. it’s not limited to just one individual for all time

Ken4Christ:
Jesus is the only way to God. He proved it:

1. He was born sinless. And that qualified him to be the only perfect sin sacrifice for mankind.
2. He lived a sinless life.
3. He willingly gave up his life to save mankind.
4. He defeated Satan in his domain; hell and took the keys of death and hell from him - Revelation 1:18.
5. He conquered death by rising from the dead.
6. He ascended back to heaven visibly to God.

No one else in the history of the earth that meets any of this criteria. So, you had better follow His teachings and accept him as your Lord and Saviour.

Shall we address your submissions?

1. He was born sinless, making him the only perfect sacrifice.

While many religious traditions, including Islam and some non-Trinitarian Christian groups, affirm Jesus' sinlessness, being without sin doesn’t automatically mean he is God or the sole way to God.

Other prophets have also been described as righteous and pure. For instance, both the Qur'an and certain Christian teachings highlight the purity of John the Baptist (Luke 1:15, Qur’an 19:12-13), and Noah is referred to as *“blameless”* in Genesis 6:9.
Where you are blameless is there any sin tied to you?

The concept of substitutionary atonement—the idea that someone must die to appease God's justice is not universally accepted.

Many believe that God is merciful and forgives directly, without the need for a blood sacrifice (Ezekiel 18:20–22, Hosea 6:6).

God can forgive sins without requiring the death of an innocent person. This showcases divine mercy rather than a legal transaction.

2. He lived a sinless life.

Subtly repeating yourself?
This belief may be embraced by various faiths, but it’s not exclusive to Jesus across all theological traditions.

The Qur’an describes Jesus as pure (Qur’an 19:19), but it also acknowledges Mary, Yahya (John), and others as righteous and chosen.

The idea of sinlessness as a prophet's virtue doesn’t necessarily prove divinity or exclusivity.

Additionally, Jesus never claimed to be the only sinless individual or demanded worship based solely on his sinlessness.

Being without sin makes someone righteous, but it doesn’t automatically make them divine or the only route to salvation.

3. He willingly gave his life to save mankind.

This belief stems from the doctrine of vicarious atonement, but it does raise some theological questions.

Can justice truly allow an innocent person to suffer in place of the guilty?

Does this align with God’s declaration in the Bible: “The soul who sins shall die” (Ezekiel 18:20)?

An alternative perspective is that Jesus’ mission was to preach repentance, truth, and guide people back to God, rather than to serve as a blood offering (Luke not to be a blood offering (Luke 5:32; Mark 1:15).

True salvation in Scripture often comes through repentance and obedience, not just belief in a sacrifice (see Matthew 19:17, Ezekiel 33:11).

4. He defeated Satan in hell and took the keys of death and hell (Revelation 1:18).

This verse is packed with symbolism and shouldn't be taken as a straightforward historical account. Revelation is an apocalyptic book filled with metaphors and vivid imagery. The "keys" here symbolize authority rather than a literal victory in battle. Plus, the Bible indicates that Satan remains active even after Jesus’ resurrection (1 Peter 5:8, Revelation 12:12).

The notion that Jesus ventured into hell to defeat Satan isn't explicitly found in the Gospels, and the concept of a "descent into hell" is a topic of debate among Christians.

Taking apocalyptic texts at face value can lead to misunderstandings. The authority over death could simply mean that God granted Him that power, rather than suggesting He triumphed over God's adversary through warfare.

5. He conquered death by rising from the dead.
The resurrection is a fundamental belief in Christianity, but it's rooted in testimony and faith, not universally accepted evidence.

Resurrection isn't exclusive to Jesus. For instance, Lazarus was brought back to life (John 11), and several prophets performed similar miracles (like Elijah in 1 Kings 17:22).

Moreover, God has the power to resurrect anyone He chooses . This doesn’t imply that the resurrected individual is divine, but rather showcases God's might.

Rising from the dead is indeed a miracle, but it doesn't necessarily serve as proof of divinity or uniqueness.

6. He ascended back to heaven visibly to God.

Absolutely, many hold the belief that Jesus ascended to heaven, but others have also been taken up by God, such as Enoch (Genesis 5:24) and Elijah (2 Kings 2:11).

Ascension signifies divine favor, but it doesn't serve as proof that the individual is God or the sole path to Him.

Ascending to heaven is more about being honored than it is about being divine or a mediator.

Jesus (peace be upon him) is a revered prophet, the Messiah, and the Word from God. His mission was to guide people toward God, not to himself.

“Now this is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.” (John 17:3)

The idea that Jesus is the only way to God should be understood in a few different ways:

It signifies that He delivered a message of salvation, much like other messengers from God.

His journey, similar to those of others, emphasized the importance of repentance, faith, and obedience to God, rather than solely requiring belief in His divinity.

TenQ:
What is the sense in a Rich Pious Muslim waiting 500 years before being admitted into Paradise?

What is his offence?
Don't forget that Allah's destiny made him both Rich and Religious at the same time!

SMH!


No wonder, the Hadith is so ..... That you cannot even defend it's authenticity!


Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2351
Abu Sa'eed narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"The poor Muhajirin will enter Paradise before the rich among them by five hundred years."

You know you only waste your time asking question you already have your own answers to so will appreciate when your inputs are ignored.


Is the intelligence waning with age or brilliance getting lazy?

You agree with your biblical statement where it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God; Matthew 19:24 but cannot understand the concept of human time and calendar compared to time with Allah or God if you like?

See also Psalm 90:4 (ESV): “For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night but it may not count as it is a song of David?


A day with your Lord is like a thousand years of what you count.” — (Qur’an 22:47)


Is Tenq getting overwhelmed and tired of his fruitless rambling?

TenQ:
What is the sense in a Rich Pious Muslim waiting 500 years before being admitted into Paradise?

What is his offence?
Don't forget that Allah's destiny made him both Rich and Religious at the same time!

SMH!


No wonder, the Hadith is so ..... That you cannot even defend it's authenticity!


Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2351
Abu Sa'eed narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"The poor Muhajirin will enter Paradise before the rich among them by five hundred years."

You know you only waste your time asking question you already have your own answers to so will appreciate when your inputs are ignored.

TenQ:
What is the sense in a Rich Pious Muslim waiting 500 years before being admitted into Paradise?

What is his offence?
Don't forget that Allah's destiny made him both Rich and Religious at the same time!

SMH!


No wonder, the Hadith is so ..... That you cannot even defend it's authenticity!


Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2351
Abu Sa'eed narrated that the Messenger of Allah (s.a.w) said:
"The poor Muhajirin will enter Paradise before the rich among them by five hundred years."

Is the intelligence waning with age or brilliance getting lazy?

You agree with your biblical statement where it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God; Matthew 19:24 but cannot understand the concept of human time and calendar compared to time with Allah or God if you like?

See also Psalm 90:4 (ESV): “For a thousand years in your sight are but as yesterday when it is past, or as a watch in the night but it may not count as it is a song of David?


A day with your Lord is like a thousand years of what you count.” — (Qur’an 22:47)


Is Tenq getting overwhelmed and tired of his fruitless rambling?

TenQ:
You are the Muslim: Is this hadith actually TRUE?

Regardless, you project knowing better about Islam than Muslims don't you?

TenQ:
All I ask is ,
Is this hadith actually TRUE?

You cannot investigate this?

TenQ:
Google is your friend as the first revelation of the Qur'an is definitely Surah 96.

So, Jibril wanted to dictate the Qur'an from the Book of Allah to Mohammed, so he started from Surah 96 instead of Surah Al-Fathiha!?

Just seeing how it makes sense to Muslims!

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Did you read what you posted?
It mentions the first five verses as those initially revealed. How many verses are in that Surah? When were the other verses revealed and how come they were added to this Surah.

Accept the expansion of your marvel and defeat of your poorly thought out jest called criticism please.

TenQ:
Why is it that Muslims will never answer direct questions but ramble about stories not related to the Questions


1. So, give evidence where Allah authorized Mohammed to rearrange the Qur'an?
Example: Distortion by changing the position of words
First revelation Surah 96
Second revelation Surah 68
Third Revelation Surah 76
Fourth revelation Surah 74

When did Allah ask Mohammad to rearrange the Qur'an from the order of revelation?

The whole Qur'an was displaced from the order in which Allah sent it. And Allah NEVER gave any instructions to that effect.



2. The Qur'an of Allah in Paradise is ONE isn't it!?

Therefore, what was written in it?
Is it
Master of the day of Judgement?
OR
King of the day of Judgement?

Surely, only one of the two is written in the Book of Allah!

The first revelation is Surah 96? Please tell if you are honest if all the verses of this Surah were revealed at once then explain how it was completed.

TenQ:

I marvel at Muslims because they never check the substance of a hadith before nodding their heads in awe.


Does this hadith below even make sense to you?
The Prophet pbuh said:
The poor will enter Paradise five hundred years before the rich among the Muslims. al-Tirmidhi

One more thing you can marvel about amongst the many things you already marvel on. Go read Jami` at-Tirmidhi 2354 and make what you can or will of it please.

MightySparrow:
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxR-kuCHagi8xe2aOV4WqSLtfX5Sn4XxtI?si=KEGyXrxh61mM_NSE

I have heard the Islam believes that Jesus is مسيح, masīḥ. In this very short video, the poster asked very important questions that I will like Muslim in the house to answer.
The video is about a minute.

1. What is salvation in Islam?
2a. What are you saved from?
2b .What are saved into?
3. Can you Muslims know if you are saved?
4. Did Mohammed need salvation?
5. Was Mohammed saved?
6a.What was Mohammed saved from if received salvation?
6b.whatdid Mohammed saved into?
7. Did Mohammed have the assurance of salvation?

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Regarding salvation in Islam, I invite you to look through Qur’an 20:74–76. There you will see a powerful contrast between two groups of people. Those who approach Allah as wrongdoers and those who come as faithful, righteous servants.

1. The disbelievers are headed for Hell, a place where they find no peace in life and cannot escape the torment of punishment in death.

2. On the other hand, believers who engage in good deeds are promised the highest places in Paradise.

3. For those who cleanse themselves in both faith and character, the reward is the eternal Gardens of Eden.

In Islam, salvation is achieved through genuine belief, performing good actions, sincere repentance, and the process of inner purification.

TenQ:
1. So, give evidence where Allah authorized Mohammed to rearrange the Qur'an?


2. The Qur'an of Allah in Paradise is ONE isn't it!?

Therefore, what was written in it?
Is it
Master of the day of Judgement?
OR
King of the day of Judgement?

Did Prophet Muhammad pbuh rearrange the Quran? No.

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) didn’t rearrange the Qur’an on his own. The order of its verses and chapters was actually guided by Allah through the angel Jibril.

Every year, Jibril would review the Qur'an with the Prophet, and in the year of his passing, they went over it together twice.
(Sahih al-Bukhari, Book 61, Hadith 129)

This review, known as muaradah, wasn’t just about reciting the text; it was about confirming the proper order of the Qur’an to ensure it would be preserved and handed down correctly.

He doesn’t speak from his own desires; it’s purely a Revelation that has been revealed. (An-Najm:3–4)

The Qur’an exists as one in the Lawh al-Mahfuz and was revealed with authorized variations in how it can be recited.

The Qirāʾāt aren’t different versions of the Qur’an; they’re simply different authentic ways to recite the same divine text.

Lawh al-Mahfuz contains perfect divine knowledge of all human speech, actions, and intentions