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Kingcalls:
Football is political...we know they fixed the WC for Messi.... the number of Ronaldo fans even increased after the world cup.... Ronaldo still remains the greatest, wc dint change it...and I believe if Ronaldo was the one that won it, Messi fans will still regard Messi as the greater one ...

One fact is, you and I do not know football better than these professionals.

Kingcalls:
Football is political...we know they fixed the WC for Messi.... the number of Ronaldo fans even increased after the world cup.... Ronaldo still remains the greatest, wc dint change it...and I believe if Ronaldo was the one that won it, Messi fans will still regard Messi as the greater one ...

With or without the World Cup, Messi has always been regarded by serving and ex players and coaches, pundits and other football professionals as the greatest ever.

See tweets….it’s not just about World Cup. Messi is miles ahead

Kingcalls:
Ronaldo is still greater and better than Messi...7 games wey dem use free penalties ontop every match for Argentina no follow ...no b so how other legends win am... Ronaldo win champions league with 2 teams still win best player In the top 3 best leagues in the world... dem no born Messi to do am

headlines can be misleading.

See his exact words….. what Iniesta said is exactly what you guys are doing.

Counteryou:
The one thing that’s making me so happy recently is that Messi succeeded in making sure you stopped comparing him to Ronaldo, now Mpape is the new sherif in town. Your arguments on FIFA rigging the cup for Messi is laughable, guy wake-up ure no more in kindergarten, these are the kind of discussion kids would sit and be having, maybe you watch too much cartoon. Thank God Mpape shoulder is too tiny to carry Messi in this World Cup atleast we can see who is carrying the other. Let me even remind you that I saw a video where FIFA officials were having meeting with all media houses and referees to make sure Messi wins the World Cup, I saw a leaked memo from FIFA asking some players to foul Argentina players and cause penalties and to intentionally lose penalties when playing shootout with Argentina. I actually know how you feel right now and I don’t want to be in your shoe bro! If Ronaldo had won this World Cup I would have atleast left the country for consolation, guy right now I can bet it with you that no fan of Messi care anymore, because football has finished the moment Messi won that cup.

Apt!

Kingcalls:
Are u saying that Messi is better than Pele.... u call comparing Messi with mbappe an insult and u dare call mbappe that's carrying Messi at psg small ...but at the same time Messi no small compared to Pele... the hypocrisy stinks to the high heavens .... it dint take Pele or mbappe 5 world cup attempts to win it

No reasonable person will ever compare Mbappe and Messi at this stage of his career.

And aside winning 2018 World Cup with France, is there any area Mbappe can be compared to Messi?

Messi is a 7x Balon D’or winner
Messi is a 6x European Golden Boot winner.
3 times UEFA Player of the Year
6 times UCL Top Scorer

I can justify calling Mbappe small before Messi with the few achievements I listed above.

That’s how you claim Xavi & Iniesta carried Messi and he played 2 World Cup finals/did a whole lot without them.

Did Mbappe also carry Messi in the World Cup or did Mbappe play for Argentina when Messi gave them qualification hope with a screamer against Mexico?

Mbappe helped Messi score the opening goal against Australia in the round of 16?

Was it Mbappe that helped Messi supply that defence splitting pass and assist against Netherlands in the Quarter Finals?

Or Mbappe helped Messi with Argentina’s third goal in the final against France?

Whether you like it or not, Messi is more decorated than Pele. The fact is Messi has a World Cup winners medal. It doesn’t matter how many he won.

Messi broke and surpassed Pele’s goal records.
Messi won trophies and awards Pele never had.
Messi conquered Europe(UCL, La liga, Ligue 1, Copa Del Rey, UEFA Super Cup & U20 World Cup in Netherlands)
Messi conquered Asia( FIFA Club World Cup, Olympics 2008 & 2022 World Cup)
Messi conquered South America( Copa America)
Finally, he conquered the world(World Cup)

Tell me….. on what ground is Pele better than Messi?

maxwell530:
You should not be replying that troll, you should've get used to his BS by now.
before the tournament started,He was all over nairaland with 100% assurance Argentina will not top their group. The clown came up with his conspiracy how Argentina has been avoiding European teams


I pity who still engage him Sha

Bro I just tire for Ronaldo fanboys.

European teams really disappointed him. When Argentina lost to Saudi, he was still bragging and slandering South American Countries.

The guy had so much confidence on Portugal. Little did he know that Morocco will be their nightmare and it was at that point, they all decided to switch the narrative so they can come up with this lame excuse incase Argentina emerges champions.

It’s funny how someone who thinks the tournament was rigged for Argentina had so much confidence Netherlands, Croatia or France would stop them.

Kingcalls:
10 additional minutes...was it the only game that got 10?? 80% of games got that , so what's the fuzz

Exactly my point but you still dey contradict yourself. If you claim the World Cup was rigged, why didn’t FIFA end the match since Argentina was already winning?

maybe that y they even suspended the ref after the game cos he almost scattered fifas plans

nobody was suspended. Before the World Cup, FIFA had drawn their timetable and games that will be officiated by different referees. Stop creating false a narrative…… was he the only ref that left? After the group games, number of referees were trimmed and as the tournament progresses, more and more referees were sent home as their services would no longer be required.

the thing with u Messi people is that u will see black and call it white ....

This is common among Ronaldo fans and that’s why most of you guys have decided to back Pele & even small
Mbappe against Messi.

Numerouno94:
Chief Olodo wat do u expect of him? Na by writing Biography? Ok u want Messi to write a Biography abt Pele to reflect his sober mood?
Pendu fans nd Olodoism.

Hahahahahahhaha

Na this same Chief Olodo wey wan attribute Argentina victory to Di-Maria before I school am

You last sentence shaa

Kingcalls:
Kate had he's in the group stages against teams they wud hv beaten with or without penalties.... Argentina got in the quarters semis and final...all dubious ... we saw the jne they gave him against Poland, all fake penalties...all fixed games ....we know what they did

The 3 goals they cancelled against Saudi were jut goals ...it was easier for them to steal and fix games thru penalties than to use offside goals due to var cos they were all clear offsides ...if VAR dint exist , they wud hv used offside goals instead of penalties to give then the WC ... this WC was fixed for Argentina and the media were in on it

Fixed yet they gave 10 additional mins against Netherlands even though Argentina dey lead at the time.

Fixed yet France got 2 penalties in the final and on both occasions, Argentina were leading.

do4luv14:
I hear say them want return Copa America back to its former format,

Take a good look at the screenshots.

Conmebol never had a defined format

Vinnie2000:
All dis Yeye Penalty Talk?

He had 5 Penalties, missed 1 and scored 4. He is NOT the only one who got a Penalty in this World cup.

Harry Kane got 2 penalties.
Lewadowski got 2 penalties.
Mbappe got 2 penalties.
Ronaldo got 1 (dubious) Penalty.

Without any Penalty, Messi WOULD HAVE STILL WON THE WORLD CUP.

In 2014 WC, when he reached the Final, Did he Score any Penalty?

2018 World Cup, Kane scored 4 penalties.
Greizmann scored 3 or 4 as well
Out of the 5goals Ronaldo scored in Euro2020, 3 penalties but him fans no talk rather they were mocking Messi that if he knew how to scored penalties, he would have won Copa America.

Kingcalls:
I will never accept a player that was pampered to victory... 5 penalties on 5 different games just to make sure he wins it...never have it happened in WC history...we know what they did

You never had a problem when Kane scored 4penalties in 2018 World Cup.

You never had a when problem Ronaldo scored 3 penalties out of 5goals in Euro2020

You never had a problem when Greizmann banged 4 Penalties in 2018 World Cup.

What exactly did they do?

Did FIFA tell Dutch players to make sure their penalties were saved by Martinez right

Did FIFA also tell Coman and other French players to make sure their penalties were caught?

Since you knew what they did, where did you get so much confidence that Argentina would not go beyond round of 16/quarter finals?

You claim Argentina cannot play any European country cos they lost to France and Croatia in the last World Cup.

Shortly before the World Cup, you were all over the place saying Argentina will be taught how to play football by small Poland.

After they dealt with Poland, you had so much confidence Argentina will not escape Netherlands .

Unfortunately, Argentina thwarted your hope then you switched to Croatia thinking its 2018 when they humiliated Argentina.

Have you forgotten how you underrated, maligned and slandered South American countries cos Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay struggled against small European countries like Iceland and Switzerland in the last World Cup?

Did you complain when they awarded 2 penalties against Argentina in the final?

Did you complain when they gave 10mins additional time against Netherlands?

How about when they cancelled 3 goals against Saudi Arabia?

Even you can’t deny the fact that Argentina dominated and played better than Netherlands, Croatia and France.

Jokerman:
Yep. He was doing good.

Tell me a time he was leading UCL & Ligue 1 goal chart and also World Cup Golden Boot winner.

Jokerman:
No hatred bro. Messi is great too. We acknowledge it... just that Pele is the greatest.

Mbappe who?

Although Mbappe has to chase Pessi out of PSG, If he wants to go far....

Was Mbappe better before Messi joined?

Kingcalls:
Did Messi drop out if the goat race when Ronaldo won the Euros in 2016 ??

Euro no be World Cup. Meanwhile, Ronaldo still dey the GOAT race but definitely not in the top 3 anymore.

Jokerman:
Pele is the greatest.

A black man who transcended all obstacles at such a time as his

My all time list

Pele
Maradona

CRonaldo
Pessi
Zidane
Delima
Cruyff
Beckenbauer
Platini
Ronaldinho
Maldini

Have you been sleeping?

It’s funny how you didn’t remember Pele’s race until Messi led Argentina to victory in Qatar?

Was he white when you dey worship Ronaldo?

Hatred for Messi don make you and the other fanboys adopt Pele & Maradona as GOAT cos Ronaldo is down the pecking order.

Before I forget, i no see penaldians new GOAT(Mbappe) for your list oh!

robosky02:
I stand with Pele the Ewu of all times....3 world cup winner hmmmm


He is to football what Mohammad Ali is to boxing

This is ridiculous!

After winning 3 World Cups, there is no doubt about Pele’s greatness but how come nobody is using the fact that he didn’t play in Europe to judge him like most of you did when Messi was still a Barcelona player?

To be considered GOAT, you guys said Messi should leave Barcelona but never asked why Pele never left Santos/South America to Europe.

Ronaldo is/was widely regarded as the GOAT because of his achievements in England, Spain & maybe Italy.

However, the same yardstick used to place Ronaldo ahead of Messi cannot applied in Pele’s case despite the fact that Messi possesses football most decorated CV which includes;

World Cup
Copa America
Olympics
U20 World Cup
Champions League
La liga
Ligue 1
Copa Del Rey
UEFA Super Cup
Spanish Super Cup
FIFA Club World Cup.

Awards & Accolades
7x FIFA Best/Balon D’or winner
6x European Golden Boots winner
6x UEFA Champions League Top Scorer
3x UEFA Player of the Year
2x World Cup Golden Ball winner
7x La liga Player of the Year
8x La liga Top Scorer.

If this isn’t double standard, show me player with a better achievements.

Achievements and stats shows Messi is one step ahead of Pele.

Abilities & Talent shows Messi is still ahead……Messi can score, create, assist, dribble, free kick & flawless through passes.

chiefolododo:
you are very immature. I disagree with you,Messi is not my favorite, it is Di Maria, if I don't agree with you doesn't mean you should insult me. Learn to respect someone's else choices.

You didn’t have to downplay Messi’s achievements to uplift Di-Maria.

And you are not under any form of compulsion to accept my choice but if you must criticize, ensure you have facts to back your claim.

As a Ronaldo fanboy, your initial comment depicts hatred for Messi.

Merry Christmas

Numerouno94:
The chief Olodo gat me laughing loud. Bro uself get PhD in vawulence.

That moniker is one of the most dumbest Pendu fan girl.

Penaldians seem to have lost their sense of reasoning.

Masterviolence:
Look at my moniker once again

chiefolododo:
in short Messi is the only person doing everything

You are just a typical Ronaldo fanboy. Talk without facts to back your claim.

Chief Olodo!

SodiumValproate:
No need for long epistles for bitter-leaf juice drinking Penaldo fans.

They don't have the wits to assimilate.

Aswear. These guys are really funny. Always looking for ways to downplay Messi’s effort and contribution.

chiefolododo:
he has been the one carrying Argentina in real sense, he is the main guy, the key passes, the dribbles, the goals( remember Olympic 2005, he was the one that scored the winning goal) , not just some undeserved penalties. If they play for Di Maria the way they play for Messi, you would see what I am saying clearly.

Where was Di Maria when Messi breathe life into the team with that screamer from outside the box and a beautiful assist to make it 2-0 against Mexico in the group stage?

Where was he when Argentina needed to claim all 3 points against Poland to qualify?

In the round of 16, where was he when Messi drove the team past Australia with a beautiful goal?

In the quarter final, where was he when Messi set up Alvarez for the first goal and also scored a penalty to make it 2-0 against Netherlands?

In the semis, where was he when Messi gave them the lead from the spot and also drove past few players to supply assist for Alvarez to score the third goal against Croatia?

Away from World Cup, where was he when Argentina was struggling to qualify for 2018 World Cup without Messi?

Messi had to come out of retirement to score a hattrick against Ecuador that qualified Argentina for 2018 World Cup.

Where was he when Argentina lost back 2 back Copa America final?

Even the 2007 Olympic final you mentioned, who assisted the goal with a sublime pass?

Talking about key passes, dribbles and goals, I can boldly say you know nothing. Just go and check stats before typing next time.

According to you, they play for Messi yet he has the highest assists and still top the goal chart in every competition they have featured.

Just so you know, Argentina scored 12goals in Copa America last year. Messi contributed 9 out of the 12goals. He scored 5goals and contributed 4 assist.

Your sense is reasoning is beclouded by your hatred for Messi.

Good riddance

Masterviolence:
He's still better than the assumed goat when drunk

Hahahahahhahahahha……why you wicked like this?

Na till Pendu fanboys commit suicide before you go pity them?

kekin41226:
Gs

No go find work. I think say the 15k you steal from her go last forever.

Hungry scammer. Everyday you dey create new moniker.

Badgers14:
Read my first post to understand my point.

I am not taking anything away from Messi's greatness in the sport.

The first part of my post was how his supporting cast were not really mentioned at all in the success story. When Messi scored those goals, someone had to pass the ball to him right? Those individuals do get rarely mentioned in stories this..

That's where I said, life is not fair.

On the other part of my write up, I think the goal keeper made many critical saves that won them the title.

Do you realize, Messi contributed 60-70% of the total goals Argentina scored?

When he’s not scoring, he’s playmaking and assisting. This isn’t the first time he’s doing it. He did same in Copa America last year. Out of the 12goals Argentina scored, he was involved in 9….5goals & 4assists.