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orohbiro:
Why this guy like to ridicule his own self like this next year he will be 39 and he want to come and disrupt the process of Eddie howe. The coach is buying players who fit into their playing system. The coach better speak up now or he might just be the victim at last. Newscaste should better go for oshimen or Harry Kane if they want to build on their top4 finish if it happens this year.
I see them winning the EPL next season and winning the champion league before city.

Na fake news sef

Numerouno94:
Those guys re complete hypocrites. They trolled Messi's move to PSG claiming it is a farmers league. Now that their Pendu has bn rejected nd bundled out of Europe to Walai Talai league they re trying to justify the move by claiming the money involved is massive bla bla bla. Those guys re hypocrites.

My joy now is that they hv got nothing against Messi again. World cup trophy don silence them nd the GOAT debate don end. He who laffs last laffs best.

I weak for them jare. Imagine their reaction if it was Messi that joined FC Walai Talahi

fergie001:
This is what I am talking about....

From the look of things, they would struggle to qualify for UCL next season.

DaddyFreeze2020:
Winning 3 World cups by a Footballer is not Ballon Dior or Champions League.
Other Footballers existing are still learners before Pele

Na this thing una dey talk wey dey always cause argument everyday.

Even France wey be the strongest team, Pele no fit lead them to win 3 World Cup in this modern day.

World Cup wey na 13 or sometimes 15-16teams dey participate back then.

I don’t think it’s necessary

Nbote:
Some of you need to stop swallowing every story you hear hook line and sinker

In a bid to make front page, they are ever ready to post news from unreliable sources.

I may not be a fan of Ronaldo but this is complete nonsense.

The rubbish news has been trending on twitter since morning but I didn’t even bother to open it cos I know it all lies.

gammarays1:
So PSG hasn't lost a game with Messi and Neymar playing?

That's football, you can't win Everytime.

You are right. No team can win every time.

Mbappe’s body disposition is the reason you are seeing comments like that.

The young lad should calm down and stop acting like only him can lead PSG to glory.

mayor1814:
Yeah. it's a team work. Higuain also missed some scoring chances in that 2014 final. if not Argentina could have won. xavi also needed d input of Messi and Iniesta. Iniesta also needed Xavi and Messi.

That’s why it’s a team sport. Mbappe should get off his high horse and stop acting like he can carry PSG to glory all by himself.

Even Messi and Ronaldo get good players to support during their prime.

MALIGNANTGuest:
These are people who know me!
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Pipeline dey road.
Despite all, Avoid Leeches..
Go for smart & hardworking ladies .
Things ain't getting better!

Thanks boss. I will already have a smart and hardworking woman. Would likely tie the knot this year.

Numerouno94:
Happy New yr boss.

BTW, u hv time schooling those guys ooo, I must commend ur effort cos even God knows that Penaldians re morons.Big morons.

Penaldians no let us rest ooh!

MALIGNANTGuest:
Nooooo.
A Few Nairalanders know me & have met.
You'll know me soon. I'll be hosting Ojeemah, Jasonscolari, Numerouno, Superintendents and a few more.
My Lady is exceptional!
Such Meals start hitting your throat when a lady knows your worth. It's very easy. That's the reason I encourage young guys to double their hustle & don't bother much about these ladies.
A time will come when they will seek u.
Women drool at hardworking & famous men.

You'll know me better when we meet .

You have been very vocal and proud of your wife from day 1.

I have read many articles about how Nigerians and Africans in diaspora regret traveling or relocating with their wives but the way your wife treats you is making me have a rethink.

Happy New Year boss!

Lamasta:
If not for Neymar PSG would have won the UCL then self, his lackluster performance and misses cost them the final against Bayern

You see! Barcelona too would have won another UCL in 2019 if not for the underperformance of his teammates against Liverpool.

Alfred74:
I am a messi fan. For messi to win champions league with psg currently,he 100% needs mbappe and Neymar in that team.

They need each other

Lamasta:
You brought Ronaldo into the argument even when it was suppose to be Mbappe vs Messi current form...

Yes I dragged Ronaldo into the discussion cos if you look deeper, you would realize this is more about Ronaldo than Mbappe. The sudden support Mbappe is getting from Ronaldo fans is just to spite Messi. You may not agree with me but it’s the hidden truth. At every point an argument is raised, they do everything to make it look like Messi steals others glory and does little or absolutely nothing but get favoured.

You are the one making Messi look asive he is the only one doing the invisible others are not contributing like you guys always says Messi is the one carrying his team....

first of all, I won’t deny the fact that Messi played a key role for Argentina in their Copa America and World Cup victory. Stats don’t lie but would never say he did everything cos they were times others like especially Alvarez bailed them too.

When Messi’s team loses, he takes the whole blame so I wouldn’t blame Messi fans that are fond of doing it cos Ronaldo fans do it a whole. Have you suddenly forgotten when some Ronaldo fans said, he can win UCL with 10 pieces of woods?

All Madrid UCL success were attributed to Ronaldo performance. Modric, Kroos, Benzema and others didn’t get any credit but whenever Messi wins, they don’t hesitate to say Iniesta, Xavi or Neymar were behind his success. You did same on this thread that’s why I quoted and asked for Ronaldo’s achievements since he left Madrid..

You cannot accuse Messi fans for doing exactly what Ronaldo fans have been doing for years. They attribute Messi’s achievements to his teammates while Madrid, Man U and Juve’s success were all attributed to Ronaldo.

@bolded I only ask a question how many UCL has Messi won without those aforementioned players since one of your Messi fan is saying Mbappe should leave so that Messi can win the UCL with PSG

The reason I asked about Ronaldo achievements after he left Madrid was to make you see that they both need these guys to achieve team and individual success.

I am a Messi but I would never have taken that comment serious. Messi cannot do it alone neither can Mbappe or Neymar.

Bentonite1:
Never you compare Italy to ordinary french league, Netherland league is even far much better than league one incase you don't know

Italy has 12 UCL, England 14, Spain 18, Netherland 6, Portugal 4

According to UEFA coefficients, Ligue is ranked higher than Portuguese and Dutch league.

Lamasta:
https://www.transfermarkt.com/cristiano-ronaldo/erfolge/spieler/8198

since you made it look like Ronaldo achieved everything all by himself. I was expecting to see his UCL, EPL, EURO & World Cup winners medal after he left Madrid and rejoined Man U.

Can I see the following pls?
UCL Top Scorer
European Golden Boot
Balon D’or
World Cup Golden Boot/Best Player.

Apart from winning Italian League, Seria Top Scorer and Best Player and also Euro2020 Top scorer, he achieved nothing.

You guys condemned Messi for scoring 4penalties in this World Cup but 3 out of the 5goals Ronaldo scored to win Euro2020 Top scorer were penalties bro.

The rest are inconsequential.

Since you are using UCL to measure Messi’s accomplishments after Xavi and Iniesta left, Can you please highlight Ronaldo UCL achievements after he left Madrid?

Lamasta:
Head to head Mbappe is better

https://www.fctables.com/lionel_messi-vs-kylian_mbappe_lottin-271592-268900/

First of all, Mbappe plays 9. It’s not logical to compare both using goals and even in goals, Messi is not far behind and he is also responsible for about 30-40% of the goal Mbappe has scored so far.

it’s even ridiculous for 35years old Messi outscore to 23years Mbappe who happen to be the center forward for a team like PSG and also at the peak of his career.

Not considering other parameters like assist, chances created and dribbles is the reason most of you think, Messi is being favored.

If FIFA had used goals to judge, Messi would not have won Golden Ball or as many as 7 Balon D’ors.

Bro, football is deeper than just scoring goals and Messi tick all the boxes.

Lamasta:
Between Messi and Mbappe who has been a better player this season?

Don’t just use goals to judge players. Carefully look at the stats and consider the fact that Messi is not their main striker.

Lamasta you of all people know football better than to dey consume the lies wey obembet dey dish out.

Lamasta:
What did Messi achieve after the departure of Xavi, Iniesta and Neymar in Barcelona answer that one first

Apart from UCL, what did Messi not achieve without Xavi & Iniesta?

He won
2x La liga (2018 & 2019)
Copa Del Rey (2018 & 2021)
Copa America(2021)
World Cup(2022)

UCL Top Scorer (2019)
2x European Golden Boots(2018 & 2019)
2x La liga Player of the Year (2018 & 2019)
3x La liga Top Scorer (2018, 2019 & 2020)
1 Copa America Best Player(2021)
1 Copa America Top Scorer(2021)
1 Golden Ball winner(2022)


What has Ronaldo achieved without Benzema, Bale, Kroos, Modric & Ramos?

Lemmyler:
Mbappé is just ambitious. I do not see anything wrong with that. As long as Messi is still in PSG, he would still be given the BD award if they win UEFA Champions league. I think Mbappé has less than 6 years to still remain at the level he is now because his speed would reduce as he is getting older.

Not Messi’s fault in anyway. The edge Messi has is winning the World Cup. It would have been much easier to compete for Balon D’or with Messi, if they were in different clubs.

Messi just won the World Cup. If PSG wins UCL, it won’t change anything cos Messi is his team mate. If they lose, it won’t change anything cos Messi already won WC. It’s a win win situation and Messi has contributed so far and will still contribute if they eventually win.

IbileIfe:
Jealous of who?
He won the FIFA World Cup in 2018 when he was only 20 in his very first participation in the FIFA World Cup Finals playing for France.
Uncle Messi just won it this month after past failures.
He scored two awesome goals in 97 seconds in the final match of the 2022 FIFA World Cup what Messi will never achieve.

No reasonable person will ever compare Mbappe and Messi at this stage of his career.

Aside winning 2018 World Cup with France, is there any area Mbappe can be compared to Messi?

At his current age, Messi was a;
2x Balon D’or winner
2x European Golden Boot winner.
2x UEFA Player of the Year
3x UCL Top Scorer

World Cup is a team achievement. Compare them on a personal level.

Make una stop this needless comparison. Messi is not Mbappe’s mate….maybe in the future!

Lamasta:
Messi fans will not agree cos their hero always shines on other players effort

Another false accusation. I understand you don’t like Messi but don’t put this on him because we know who did that for years before he was exposed after he left Madrid.

Benzema is a typical example!

Lamasta:
Winning what How many did he win at Barcelona after the departure of Xavi, iniesta and even Neymar

He single-handedly carried Barcelona to the semis. Topped goal chart and won multiple European Golden Boots and Balon D’or without them.

After he left, they’ve not been able to qualify from UCL group stage for two consecutive seasons. They have only succeeded in winning 3 out of 11games yet he did nothing.

Oya tell us what your Ronaldo achieved after he left Bale, Marcelo, Ramos, Modric and Kroos

All through his years at Juventus and Man U, did he even see one semi final or compete for UCL golden boot like he did during his time at Madrid?

LINTUNE:
best comment so far

Best comment because you don’t like Messi?

Where was Di Maria when Messi breathe life into the team with that screamer from outside the box and a beautiful assist to make it 2-0 against Mexico in the group stage?

Where was he when Argentina needed to claim all 3 points against Poland to qualify?

In the round of 16, where was he when Messi drove the team past Australia with a beautiful goal?

In the quarter final, where was he when Messi set up Alvarez for the first goal and also scored a penalty to make it 2-0 against Netherlands?

In the semis, where was he when Messi gave them the lead from the spot and also drove past few players to supply assist for Alvarez to score the third goal against Croatia?

Away from World Cup, where was he when Argentina was struggling to qualify for 2018 World Cup without Messi?

Messi had to come out of retirement to score a hattrick against Ecuador that qualified Argentina for 2018 World Cup.

Where was he when Argentina lost back 2 back Copa America final?

Even the 2007 Olympic final you mentioned, who assisted the goal with a sublime pass?

Talking about key passes, dribbles and goals, I can boldly say you know nothing. Just go and check stats before typing next time.

Messi has the highest assists and still top the goal chart in every competition they have both featured.

Just so you know, Argentina scored 12goals in Copa America last year. Messi contributed 9 out of the 12goals. He scored 5goals and contributed 4 assist.

Your sense is reasoning is beclouded by your hatred for Messi.

Sonnobax15:

Wise kid
..he knows as long as the midget is in PSG, his(Mbappe's) glory and hardwork would be awarded to him(Messi) . Just like everyone kept talking about him and neglected Di Maria who actually won the cup for Argentina

Where was Di Maria when Messi breathe life into the team with that screamer from outside the box and a beautiful assist to make it 2-0 against Mexico in the group stage?

Where was he when Argentina needed to claim all 3 points against Poland to qualify?

In the round of 16, where was he when Messi drove the team past Australia with a beautiful goal?

In the quarter final, where was he when Messi set up Alvarez for the first goal and also scored a penalty to make it 2-0 against Netherlands?

In the semis, where was he when Messi gave them the lead from the spot and also drove past few players to supply assist for Alvarez to score the third goal against Croatia?

Away from World Cup, where was he when Argentina was struggling to qualify for 2018 World Cup without Messi?

Messi had to come out of retirement to score a hattrick against Ecuador that qualified Argentina for 2018 World Cup.

Where was he when Argentina lost back 2 back Copa America final?

Even the 2007 Olympic final you mentioned, who assisted the goal with a sublime pass?

Talking about key passes, dribbles and goals, I can boldly say you know nothing. Just go and check stats before typing next time.

Messi has the highest assists and still top the goal chart in every competition they have both featured.

Just so you know, Argentina scored 12goals in Copa America last year. Messi contributed 9 out of the 12goals. He scored 5goals and contributed 4 assist.

Your sense is reasoning is beclouded by your hatred for Messi.

crazygod:
Odegaard is better than KDB this season. Wetin. If that guy injures, nothing for Arsenal o.

I be arsenal fan like you but stop this comparison asap.

Numerouno94:


Bro na u nd Thierryjay hand I learn this gbas!! gbos!! wey I give am for my last sentence.

I remember wen u rename the guy "Chief Olodo" that was epic

Na him b d dumbest inside all Pendu fans.kikikikikiki

Hahahahahahaha

Very funny penaldian

ThierryJay:
Thank you my brother. I watched how Keane so arrogantly dismissed the reports that no top club was looking for him. He must be so red-faced right now.

He should bury his head in shame. He made it look like Man U is the reason Ronaldo was not playing UCL.

Kingcalls:
Messi in his delusion so as his fans thinks he's the greatest of all time....no kne ever had it easy amongst the goats as Messi.... Messi has always been pampered ... its always been uefa , fifa , commobol ,balon dor making it easy for him...
All those that don't jnow anything about football that u said mentioned it, is all due to media hype ... they have always been finding ways to push him to the top ... commobol had to be doing copy yearly just to mk sure he won it...now that he has, they wanna revert back to doing it once in 3 yrs lol... if u claim u are a football analyst and u are saying u dint see that this WC was fixed for Argentina, then u are not being honest ....

You have succeeded in blaming everybody for Messi’s success and achievements.

You claim Messi is pampered by FIFA, UEFA, CONMEBOL & Balon D’or….. but how’s it even possible for all these bodies to pamper one of millions of footballers worldwide?

As a matter of fact, these organizations you mentioned represents different continents and the world and you think there’s a conspiracy between these organizations to favour Messi.

What exactly do they stand to gain for favoring Messi?

And as much as I know, FIFA, UEFA, CONMEBOL & Balon D’or cannot like or favour one person unless that person is doing something right.

Just accept reality cos this accusation makes no sense to be honest.

There’s nothing like media hype. If there’s anyone who has successfully used media to build a reputation, that person is Ronaldo cos that’s why we see girls that rarely or don’t even watch football claiming Ronaldo is better cos he’s more active on social media and seeking attention unlike Messi.

Copa America never had a defined format. See screenshots below

The World Cup was not fixed. Would you have said they rigged this World Cup if France had won?

You believed so much in European countries and you simply cannot get over the fact that Argentina was too good for them.

You tried to make everybody believe Argentina and other SA teams are trash. They proved you wrong and you think it’s rigged cos the tournament did not go to Europe.

BeauBragnar11:
Where those CR7 fangirls that were bleating all over the place when he was still at Man-U, citing how all the top European Teams( Bayern, Atletico, Dortmund, Chelsea...etc) would scamper for his signature soon as he's out of contract with Man-U.

What happened now??

We don tell una say the fraud is expired and a cancer to any ambitious team, una no gree....see una life now??

This is the best destination George Mendes could get after Hawking him round Europe like a sacrifice??

Bunch of clowns living in self denial.

Cc:
Kingcalls
Thierryjay
Ojeemah
Almiron

Roy Keane and some of his gullible fans told us he can’t be pushing for a move if there was no offer from a UCL club.

His contract was terminated and still no one was willing to sign.

This deal is not just about the money. If Mendes could get him a club, he would still be in Europe.

Kingcalls:
Story.... those that hv always believed that Ronaldo is the greatest still think so....

As far back as 2011, Messi already established himself in the GOAT discussion.

The comparison has always been between Messi, Maradona & Pele. You know this!

After Portugal won Euro2016, Ronaldo fans, PR team and media dragged him into the GOAT debate. He was never in this category.

Take a look at Rooney’s tweet as at 2012…. He didn’t say Messi is better than Ronaldo. He simply called Messi the best ever. This explains my first point.

Then take a good look at Maddison’s tweet. According to Maddison, winning the World Cup changes nothing but it’s good he won for those who think he needs the World Cup to be called the best ever.

Obama called him GOAT
Lebron James did

This shows Messi is regarded as GOAT beyond football.

Kingcalls:
That's their opinion....70% of retired footballers claimed Ronaldo as well...we know Rooney has always been jealous of Ronaldo and carager is a hater , always hating ....

retired and active footballers that regard Ronaldo as GOAT are not upto or more than 40%

Long before now, Messi have always be regarded as the greatest ever including some in Ronaldo’s camp