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Gabrielshow24:
So let me get you, you purport that because there exists spiritual forces that this means they are still there in heaven.

But you failed to consider that there are heavenly layers or rather put heavens stemmed from Jewish traditions.

As far as the verse is concerned, it's not specific as to what heaven they're!

The verse itself along with a lot of spiritual things of God do not come with a timemark but simple deductive reasoning suggests it's not something in the future but rather put in the past that has occurred already but the verse is reiterating it!

So…are you agreeing there are spiritual forces of evil that still have their place in the heavenly realms?

You also mentioned Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven. At what point in history did this happen? Are you also telling us the dragon has pursued the woman to the wilderness as written in Revelation 12 v 13-16 hmmm?

Gabrielshow24:
Where else will they dwell? 👀

That which is of the spirit stays with the spirit likewise that which is of flesh with flesh!

They are no longer part of heaven!
Even one of the oldest books of the bible, Job suggest that the devil as already been roaming on the earth with malicious intents!

Which when looked through a microscopic examination of genesis?

We see that the devil must have already been cast out;

So revelation is a book that speaks of the past, present and future but not necessarily in that order!

The Devil and his hosts have been cast of heaven!

Who are the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms in Ephesians 6 v 12?

When did Angel Michael cast out the dragon and his angels from heaven?

Kinkladze came to mind. Anyways, congrats to him.

This is what happens when people let stories like Dante’s inferno replace the narratives and context of the scriptures.

elated177:
OkCornel, what about it? Is it different from the normal, regular NIV?

Yep, written with a mixture of Hebrew and English as much as possible.

Even the New Testament books are renamed to their actual Hebrew names e.g James is actually Ya’akov (Jacob).

adubam:
Face reality . I chartered 8 years ago. I have a managerial role. It's not rosy like before. You think when you go abroad as a CA you'll just be given accounting roles. PhD accountant here still do cleaning job when they get there, even doctors. Make I leave you. Add skills to your certificate if not you'll continue dreaming

Which country is this?

Gabrielshow24:
🤧🤦

Are you telling us this has happened? If yes, when?🤷

Revelation 12 v 7-9
7 Then war broke out in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back.
8 But he was not strong enough, and 👉they lost their place in heaven👈.
9 The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.


And why does Apostle Paul refer to spiritual forces of evil in the HEAVENLY REALMS? 🤷

Ephesians 6 v 12
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil 👉in the heavenly realms👈.

Satan and his Angels still have their place in heaven.

The war in heaven is yet to happen.

Comment section scams on various social media platforms to lure the gullible.

Hmmm

“Rapture” ain’t happening until the man of lawlessness declares himself as god in the temple.

2 Thessalonians 2 v 1-4

At least study your Bible with proper context before opening threads like this.

Nigerians are gradually shedding off the religious koolaid.

Truth eventually prevails

ttime:
Origen and Josephus don't qualify to be called early fathers of the church... They were never in d ministry ordained ministers, not as apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists, or teachers...
U can't call them fathers of the church...
They never headed any church or won souls for Christ.
They never preached the gospel, they didn't have any interaction with the early church directly.

They were simply scholars, historians, philosophers and commentators on world religions and events. ...

They had no authority as far as Christianity is concerned.

Their writings are used as evidence of the events during bible times so they're referenced in theological studies, but pls,
Don't insult Christianity by calling philosophers fathers of d early church.

🥱 a quick refresher on church history.

I’m wondering how Josephus entered this church father discussion.

No surprises from political prostitutes.

Is it a deficit budget?

If yes, get ready for more loans to finance the deficit!

The expenditure framework also has a new borrowing plan of N9.22 trillion which constitutes both domestic and foreign borrowings.

Don’t be surprised to see news on fresh foreign loans next year to finance the 9.22 trillion naira deficit.

This is what pbatmedia team should be communicating proactively!

Mods take note.

malali:
Contrasting Nigeria with Britain: Comparing a 317-year-old UK with a 64-year-old Nigeria is absurd.Every nation develops at its own pace, and such comparisons ignore historical contexts like colonialism that have shaped both countries.
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Moot point. Singapore gained independence in the 1960s and is comparable with the UK, but Nigeria isn’t.

Find another excuse please

Bambiala Bwala, which of these promises is Tinubu on course to achieve before 2027?

1. food security;
2. poverty eradication;
3. growth,
4. job creation;
5. access to capital;
6. inclusion;
7. rule of law; and
8. fighting corruption

https://punchng.com/translating-tinubus-8-point-agenda-to-recovery/?amp

And the 50 million jobs promised between 2023 to 2026

https://www.nairaland.com/7821154/tinubu-sets-3-year-economic-revival

Very good, all that is left is for the north central reps to follow suit and everything else falls into place.

Lamba lamba lamba lamba

Will bookmark this thread for 2026

membranus:
They have included your region in their Biafra map by Ekpa's compatriots. Don't you know that. The more the merrier.

Doesn’t make me an Igbo though 🤷

Bizaustine:
You must be Igbo to Goodnewsforlife, if you are not Igbo he will surely die oo 😁😁
Is destiny on earth is to wail, cry and sorrow Igbo😁😁.

I tire o, I didn’t know middlebelt indigenes are also Igbos.

Goodnewsforlife:
so u are no longer Igbo?

God eeee

Bizaustine
Biafra patriot or biafranparrot

Another one about to deny being igbo

When have I ever identified as Igbo on this platform or anywhere else?

What were the evidences you relied on to conclude I’m Igbo? I’m awaiting your “intelligent” analysis.

Tribalists are quite entertaining like circus monkeys

Goodnewsforlife:
see Igbo more concerned about what others decide to call themselves when south east has been taken over by criminals

Who is Igbo?

abc115:
Igbos are called Iyanmirin if you travel to the North

Is that what Igbos call themselves?

abc115:
What about iyanmirin?

I don’t recall any tribe identifying themselves with that tag

This 11 minute video summarises the class struggles in every society.

How religion, law, commerce etc controlled by the elites perpetually exploit the masses. The masses revolt, and then the figureheads of the revolution end up being the monsters they fought in the first place.

An interesting watch!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTDdIO74BuA?si=kdYvHeQ6JAniiazg

Good… now all those illegal mining going on in the north would be captured in the tax net.

Either you tax em, or starve the indigenes whilst collecting bribes from the illegal miners.

Loot the tax proceeds and face scrutiny from your indigenes.

Meanwhile, Alphabeta boys are extremely pleased.