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kaydada: Hey people. I need your opinion on an issue. Which of these firms would you rather work for, EY or KPMG?

Djbaka: Starting Slow in the right direction is still better than starting Fast in the wrong direction. Any system with a HEAD that is below par administering it will always lack the efficiency it's capable of, no matter the efforts of the followers. Unless maybe it will be a Leader by NAME and not by FUNCTION.

UpdateAll: @Okeyjames; happy Sunday to you and everyone!!! now I understand your point "not sacrificing accuracy", pardon me because I did not read in between the lines in your previous post. You seem to be so sure about "allowing the first person to nominate himself/herself to become the team lead". Djbaka has also made an outstanding point against your point.

Now let us continue to brainstorm on specifics from past ACs. How many minutes/hour(s) was/were allotted for the group work? How did past successfuls at the AC organize their group work? Did they vote or did they do as Okeyjames has been suggesting? In order to continue and draft a reasonable conclusion on how to ensure effective team work, we need to answer those questions.

regards

majekdom2: The group leader doesn't determine one's fate at any group assessment , one's contributions , competencies desired do. Although its a group work , assessment is on individual attributes.voting and choosing a leader could take more time as individuals would have different opinions.one could have uneasy peeps as team mates.when it comes to choosing leadership positions ,I ll suggest you go with the volunteers as that won't come against you , in a situation where there is a debate on who should be the leader and much time is wasted ,the debaters might have to pay for it because assessor could see that as derailing .The main objective is to tackle the case study work.
The fact that one's group comes out successful doesn't mean one would proceed to the next stage at some AC where candidates are dropped at every stage, personal performances are key. I think at this particular one , one would have the opportunity to take part in all the stages and so one could make it up in subsequent stages if there is a problem in the group work.

Djbaka: The first person that declares leadership interest might not be up to the task of taking leadership positions in a high pressure environment. The AC shouldn't be an avenue to test run abilities, as the mistake or ineptitude of the leader incapacitates the whole group and can jeopardize the chance for success of the group. IMO, a 30-45 seconds manifesto will cost the group so little yet reveal so much.

virginadams: sorry Can i still Send? because i hav a Passion To wrk For an NGO. Have a yr experience

UpdateAll: @Okeyjames; because of time constraint, the first person to declare interest to lead should be appointed. I support this idea and I hope the whole house supports too. Now we are already working as a team, I brought up a good idea and you brought up a better idea to the table and we have to stick to the better idea. The first highlighted sentence in your post has flaws, sacrificing accuracy; lets give logical and critical answers and nothing less.

The second highlighted sentence in your post also has its pros and cons; saying the final answer is not the goal, I do not think the assessors will accept any point which is not feasible (that's just common sense). With regards to contributions again, as you have said and I have said in my previous post, let everyone contribute whether good or bad. The best points can be presented to the assessors. In order to select the best points, we can rate them on a scale of 1-10, I am still of the opinion that a simple vote will do because opinions can defer. Please do not look at this as politics (a do or die affair). Voting allows the majority's opinion (which is widely accepted in an organized setting) to rule.

@PoP; You made valuable points here too, no extra time for speeches et al, but we do not have to scare team members away from assuming leadership positions (which most likely makes groups organized). Lets remain positive in our opinions, first person to nominate himself/herself should be allowed to lead. The lead should also be allowed to appoint his/her scribe and time keeper (all these have to be done in less than 2minutes and that means we have to work as fast and accurate as we can).

PS: Lets not be scared, all the recent discussion is on organizing and ensuring an effective team work . Let us not leave our competencies including our valuable skills behind for any reason (assessors will be expecting the best from groups). How do I know? from research.

Happy Sunday to everyone and may God bless all our hard works and grant us success at the AC.

UpdateAll: @Okeyjames; because of time constraint, the first person to declare interest to lead should be appointed. I support this idea and I hope the whole house supports too. Now we are already working as a team, I brought up a good idea and you brought up a better idea to the table and we have to stick to the better idea. The first highlighted sentence in your post has flaws, sacrificing accuracy; lets give logical and critical answers and nothing less.

The second highlighted sentence in your post also has its pros and cons; saying the final answer is not the goal, I do not think the assessors will accept any point which is not feasible (that's just common sense). With regards to contributions again, as you have said and I have said in my previous post, let everyone contribute whether good or bad. The best points can be presented to the assessors. In order to select the best points, we can rate them on a scale of 1-10, I am still of the opinion that a simple vote will do because opinions can defer. Please do not look at this as politics (a do or die affair). Voting allows the majority's opinion (which is widely accepted in an organized setting) to rule.

@PoP; You made valuable points here too, no extra time for speeches et al, but we do not have to scare team members away from assuming leadership positions (which most likely makes groups organized). Lets remain positive in our opinions, first person to nominate himself/herself should be allowed to lead. The lead should also be allowed to appoint his/her scribe and time keeper (all these have to be done in less than 2minutes and that means we have to work as fast and accurate as we can).

PS: Lets not be scared, all the recent discussion is on organizing and ensuring an effective team work . Let us not leave our competencies including our valuable skills behind for any reason (assessors will be expecting the best from groups). How do I know? from research.

Happy Sunday to everyone and may God bless all our hard works and grant us success at the AC.

UpdateAll: In order to add emphasize on majekdom2's suggestions; I will say organizing a group is an excellent idea. Definitely a group Lead has to be appointed through a majority vote. Assuming three persons are willing to be the group lead, each one should be allowed to give a 1minute speech to the group after which a vote should be carried out in order to appoint the right person (we can't afford to appoint the wrong person who will cause failure, extreme care has to be taken). With regards to time keeping and scribing; the group lead should appoint a scribe and a time keeper.

About contributing to solving the problem at the table; everyone has to contribute and say something especially the excos. When all points from everyone has been taken down, the team can review each point and rate them on a scale of 1-10 (assuming 10 points were made); 1 representing a point of high priority (most important) and point 10 representing a very low priority (almost irrelevant).

How can points be rated? the team can vote and before you know it, the rating is completed. All that I am saying are suggestions towards an effective team work. To achieve this, everyone has to corporate at various teams during the AC. I wish all of us success at the forthcoming AC.

PS: if anyone wants to contribute to effective team work, please do because we want to achieve the best outcome.

Dammyllionaire: It knew it cant be true, how possible is it that nobody on this thread wont be called? Cant we see the number of viewers on this thread?

Why will some useless entities joke with people emotion on this thread, i believe this thread is for serious minded individuals and not for jokers and failures. Pls, think twice before posting any info on threads like this. It's wise to keep quite than to post rubbish and unconfirmed information. Thank you, no insult cos am good at reply.

airsaylongcon: Comrades (Pardon the pun),
It is good to see everyone trying to give this thread a kick in the butt and get it going once again. Now we must know what it feels like to be in the Big brother house when the show is approaching the finale with the camaraderie gone and everyone just hanging around. Now we must act as a unit and push over the line. Truth be told, I am over the specified age by a couple of years but I swear down I am ready to dig in and fight with all my might. I may have deprived someone who is within the age limit and equally qualified but remember when "If you are good, you are good"was trending? I am not good but STRONGLY believe in practise practise practise; for this is the only way a boxer keeps his reflexes razor sharp.

So I beseech you all to chip in a little bit on how we can all make our AC. I have got an ebook "How to Succeed at an Assessment Centre" published by Kogan Page. If you are interested quote me. I will respond to all requests by 1700hrs today 11/08/2014. Requests beyond this date wont be answered o! Also @majekdom2, @sqlmaster and other top dawgs....me I am not good o so assistance is necessary

topeontop: pls does kpmg test consists of essay. If yes , what is the likely essay that will be asked ?

Vitalis13: lol! Yeah It's gone. How far you Okey?

Vitalis13: Offer letter things on my mind. #dancing skeleazonto.

majekdom2: DROP A MAIL CONTACT

Balingz: Hi nairalanders. I had my interview on the 24th of July but to my surprise I got a mail on Friday saying I wansnt successful in aptitude test. Called them to report and they said they would get back to me. Am kinda confused. Could the mail have been a mistake?

powerfix: congratulations to all those who made it to the AC stage. I've received the success mail. М̣̣̥̇̊ÿ̲̣̣̣̥ concern now is that i also won the NLNG PG scholarship and i'll be travelling by september. I might make it for the AC bt by d time the final selections are made...i might be in the UK. Pls DPLACEMENT wat is your take on this?

majekdom2: GET ON A PC OR DESKTOP, THIS COMPANY SCREENS OUT THOROUGHLY. I THINK THEY GOT AN AGE LIMIT OF 25 OR SO. ONLY ABOUT 50 WOULD BE CONTACTED AND ABOUT 5 CHOSEN FINALLY.

MadCow1: How much this yeye company dey pay sef?

I heard its under 400'k.

2sExy1: [size=30pt]The average Nigerian is all form money, and not what they can contribute to a company. Little wonder why many are rarely missed when they leave a company.

my friend, what can you offer and let baker hughes see if you are worth taking? [/size]

Napolitano14: Congrats bro, may be I am meant to join at the experience level. Lol
Congrats one more time