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Osaze007:
Yup the typical yoruba that is not a fan of tinubu is neither a fan of atiku
And Yorubas are not known for attacking their leaders etc the way he’s doing he’s an iPob member

Osaze007:
You can be part of the 5% that won’t support him the remaining 95% will

leokid866:
Also federal government doesn't have the sole power to create Local government.....it's within the power of the state to do so, but have to run it through the National Assembly for final confirmation.

leokid866:
Either way it was lagos money, which Yaradua was quick to pay to save face....

Grayoso:
Bruv, check out our Omo ale "Yoruba" brother insult and proudly mock Yoruba people in ways even the IPOBians will envy him for.

His so-called Yoruba brothers are delusional and only our beloved SW is full of "stenching poverty" according to him.

A total disgrace not proud of his own supposed heritage and always to be found insulting his own people and wishing to sell out their interest. Dude is an irritating joker. I am done responding to the IPOBian irritant.

https://www.nairaland.com/oladeji245/posts/1

Grayoso:
Dude what is wrong with you? You need to stop disgracing yourself here. Are you saying Yorubas will vote Atiku rather than Tinubu? Is this what primordial hate has turned you to?

To you Yorubas would even prefer to vote Peter Obi, if PDP gave him their presidential ticket, instead of Tinubu ba? Are you sane at all?

Okay we are waiting for you to lead Yorubas to vote against our son for another Fulani, after 8 years in power, or the Igbos who are our sworn enemies so we can see Stella Oduah-style demotion of Yorubas ten thousand fold.

You are very irritating and if I ever meet you I will slap some Yoruba sense into your Omo ale and ako ti le ta head.

obaaderemi:
I also don't like Tinubu. But if he has a upper hand in politics, then kudos to him. You have to play dirty to be relevant in politics. But I don't castigate those who worship him. It's their funeral.

Topsic70:
Nwanne my yoruba-wannabe,
The only thing dt 'shows' u r Yoruba is ur 1: moniker: olawale
2: 'location': osogno
3: name: Tobi
4: school attended: uniosun
5: mother's origin: ilobu bla-bla

Apart from d above, which u painstakingly out out just to convince d average Joe of ur yorubaship, on a faceless forum there's nothingin/from ur mouth dt depicts u a Yoruba person. As a matter of fact, bar ur moniker, everything from ur putrid mouth reeks of ipob ideology.

I mentioned on another thread dt I can sniff out an ipob from a mile off and dts no joke.
On ds thread alone, I busted 4 of ur I be Yoruba ipob compatriots......u r d 5th one
I remember telling u on ds thread dt ur 'just 50 posts' on NL will be ur albatross and I know what I meant.
#joker

U 'joined' nairaland in 2013 and BTW dt time and 2020, (a spate of 7 yrs)) u had made only 3 comments only to resurface in 2020 to champion ur mischievous cause.
Pray, where were u all ds 7 yrs 'hiatus'? Where biko? Lolz, on another moniker definitely.

To be modest, the average nairalander has at least two moniker: d 'good boy' moniker and d 'gangstet' moniker. lolz.

Even d youbas dt don't support tinibu/APC don't think and talk d way u do. On one hand u are cursing and insulting nairalanders/apc/tinubu (like a typical ipobian) on d other hand u are taking a swipe at sw/yorubas as a whole:


Like, which Yoruba (APC/PDP) does that?
An ipob will always reason as one any day anytime.....

Nwanne, shift biko!

Jetleeeee:
At the same time though, I feel like we shouldn't treat those who disagree or don't like the man as outcasts. We shouldn't encourage binary thinking. If everyone thinks the same way, there won't be development. That diversity of thought is healthy and necessary. As long as name-calling isn't involved

We just need to let them know why it's important for us to put aside our differences and support him

Akanbiedu:
Ko si danu jooor.

All you know is chop chop food food typical PDP kind of reasoning.

Jije Jije l'ope mo

Ope

obaaderemi:
That guy can't understand what you are saying. To them, anyone who doesn't join them in insulting tinubu is a tinubu supporter.

LegendHero:
Yes. If he becomes the APC candidate then Yorubas will have no choice than supporting him overwhelmingly.

That's what we will do.

Osaze007:
I’m all for tinubu 100%

The current Igbo aggression on him simply means he’s doing something right for yoruba interest

I hope he contest in 2023

I and my entire village will support him

When election comes I know all Yorubas will forget their differences and support him

LegendHero:
God bless you bro.

I don't know why some Yoruba think we should condemn one of us just for the sake of politics. Check other tribes, they vote one way, sometimes giving their own 90% of the votes but the Yorubas like playing politics of intellectuals like Nigeria is USA. C'mon, the Yorubas could play politics of division within the state, but anytime we are talking about Federal election we all have to queue behind someone like other tribes because Nigeria is a very improper democracy.

If Oladeji245 like he can vote against APC within the state or detest Tinubu, it is his right. However at the centre, we must not make any mistake of sabotaging anybody that is putting the Yorubas in the national sphere. We have been in opposition for too long, we gotta try being at the centre and see if this will be better than what we have always been.

Yoruba ronu o!

LegendHero:
God bless you bro.

I don't know why some Yoruba think we should condemn one of us just for the sake of politics. Check other tribes, they vote one way, sometimes giving their own 90% of the votes but the Yorubas like playing politics of intellectuals like Nigeria is USA. C'mon, the Yorubas could play politics of division within the state, but anytime we are talking about Federal election we all have to queue behind someone like other tribes because Nigeria is a very improper democracy.

If Oladeji245 like he can vote against APC within the state or detest Tinubu, it is his right. However at the centre, we must not make any mistake of sabotaging anybody that is putting the Yorubas in the national sphere. We have been in opposition for too long, we gotta try being at the centre and see if this will be better than what we have always been.

Yoruba ronu o!

Osaze007:
You can create a separate thread for that

leokid866:
The three years obj used to denie lagos of federal allocation is a lie too abi.....cause that one is general knowledge.

Grayoso:
IPOBian fraudster, why don't you point out my lies and conspiratorial story-telling if you can?

You cannot appreciate that you are an aberration to intellectually and politically sound Yorubas with how you place OBJ on a pedestal while seeking to demonize BAT.

Informed Yorubas know that OBJ is the worst Yoruba leader ever, for many reasons, and one every Yoruba is in a hurry to forget and not speak of as the memory of his actions leaves a bitter taste in the mouth of all genuine omoluabi.

You need to find an IPOBian forum to join. Your turncoat outlook is wasted here.

ODVanguard:
Oga Ade calm down. I am not amongst those that will drag you for not supporting Tinubu. I was only giving you my perspective as to why I think you may be getting dragged more often than not. And that was why I used the Kanu analogy. Try opening a thread on this forum to drag Nnmadi Kanu and watch the caustic responses you would receive from his fans and admirers. His followers online are way more than his opponents, that's just the way it is. Historically, Yorubas have always had 'mainstream' (a political party that dominates the region) existing side-by-side with opposition parties within the same region. And like I said, even Awolowo had fierce opposition in his SW/Western region political base. Therefore it is not a crime for you not to support Tinubu. But perhaps you just need to grow some tough skin because you can't expect to call Tinubu names and not get a reaction from some of his ardent supporters. Politics can be an emotional sport. It is what it is.

ODVanguard:
Bro, I see where you are coming from, but your experience (however unfortunate) only goes to show that your position is in the minority. Even Awolowo had fierce rivals within Yorubaland (with many being his former political associates even). By 1983, UPN had lost Oyo and Ondo (though it later regained Ondo via the courts), before the coup that ushered in Buhari struck. The situation is kinda like what you find with Kanu and igbos online. The support that Nnamdi Kanu enjoys amongst Igbos online is reflective of the widespread support he enjoys on the ground. Fine, not every igboman supports Kanu, but I would argue that even those ones that don't support him have one or two areas where they agree with him. Yorubas may not agree with Kanu or even dislike his methods, but when it comes down to numbers, that guy has the 'street credibility' amongst regular everyday igbos, moreso online. It is what it is. I don't support you getting attacked for not supporting Tinubu, but that is just reflective of how unpopular your position is amongst mainstream Yorubas.

Grayoso:
Look, learned Yorubas are not naturally uncouth and insultive like Igbos. We are not 'herded' either to be following one man blindly as Igbos do with Kanu who is a scammer that appeared from nowhere.

We know Tinubu well. He has paid his dues massively for Yorubas and their cause from the day he fled Nigeria and was a supremo of NADECO that fought Abacha.

Are you aware of all that before you start insulting the man uncouthly while expecting learned Yorubas to just condone your behavior?

You are the same person praising OBJ who is no less than a very wicked and Vainglorious leader who has been one of if not the biggest problem of the entire Nigeria for many decades.

People like you are traitors for worshipping OBJ and demonzing Tinubu who remains a benevolent politician only working with the reality of Nigerian politics whereas OBJ was the same wicked and vengeful individual who began sabotaging Nigeria as far back as when he abetted the rigging in of Shagari as President so the ultra-visionary Awolowo would never get the glory of leading Nigeria to great heights.

As civilian President OBJ was a demon to the SW openly rigging in gangsters and killers in as leaders everywhere. Need I tell you how many prominent technocrats got murdered under OBJ when they dared to venture near SW politics?

Today Nightclub boss Shina Pellar (Quilox) is a serving politician because of the sanity Tinubu has brought to SW politics. Ditto former actor Desmond Elliot and the two Yoruba betting shop bosses. That alone is worth its weight in gold.

How many governors did OBJ undemocratic ally impeach at will or jail partisanly in his one-sided fight against corruption? How many Senate Presidents did he hound out for not doing his bidding? How many billions of dollars did your icon OBJ steal to the detriment of the entire nation while you call Tinubu thief daily for his leadership of Lagos alone.

No private asset OBJ did not sell to cronies for pittance especially when he was about to leave office. Yar Adua was so ashamed about the unpatriotic theft of OBJ he quickly moved to reverse some of OBJ's sale of national assets!!!

Does the entire nation have one MW of power to show for OBJ's $16 billion fraud in the power sector while the same OBJ was frustrating Tinubu PPP (private power plant) plans for Lagos? What of OBJ's unforgiveably wicked imposition of sick Yar Adua on Nigeria when other competent candidates were available merely because your hero wanted tools he could control rather than good leadership of the biggest black nation on Earth?

Bruv take your time and don't even get a proper omoluabi started. Any Yoruba that can cannonize OBJ and demonize Tinubu is simply ignorant or deviant. There are too many holes and disjointed views in your thinking for you to be a pragmatic omoluabi aware of the big picture. It is almost impossible for any genuine Omoluabi, aware of the historical truth of Nigeria since 1999, to love the monster OBJ while hating Tinubu. Even your talk of caring for Osun is suspect. Did you live through the Oyinlola days? You're a fraud bro.

ODVanguard:
Bro, I see where you are coming from, but your experience (however unfortunate) only goes to show that your position is in the minority. Even Awolowo had fierce rivals within Yorubaland (with many being his former political associates even). By 1983, UPN had lost Oyo and Ondo (though it later regained Ondo via the courts), before the coup that ushered in Buhari struck. The situation is kinda like what you find with Kanu and igbos online. The support that Nnamdi Kanu enjoys amongst Igbos online is reflective of the widespread support he enjoys on the ground. Fine, not every igboman supports Kanu, but I would argue that even those ones that don't support him have one or two areas where they agree with him. Yorubas may not agree with Kanu or even dislike his methods, but when it comes down to numbers, that guy has the 'street credibility' amongst regular everyday igbos, moreso online. It is what it is. I don't support you getting attacked for not supporting Tinubu, but that is just reflective of how unpopular your position is amongst mainstream Yorubas.

ODVanguard:
Bro, you have said the koko. For as long as Yorubas remain in Nigeria as presently constituted politically, we will always need a rallying point. Doesn't mean all Yorubas will support him, or that all Yorubas will be in such a rallying point's party, no. But such a person whom has paid the price politically to build the network and political capital will enable us claim our stake and give us a place at the table. Say what you like about Tinubu, but the man earned his stripes over the years. If it was that easy to remain relevant in the landmine that is the Nigerian political terrain, or if it was that easy to and remain a 'godfather' in Nigeria, his contemporaries (the likes of Orji Kalu, Kwankwaso, Bukola Saraki, Rochas Okorocha) would still be relevant. When the SW was under the PDP, it lacked the cohesive glue that it has enjoyed under the ACN/APC, and that cost us a seat at the table.

If Tinubu had not built the ACN into a formidable party across the SW (like Awo did with AG and UPN), Yorubas would not have been opportuned to produce the VP and other slots in the current admin that have benefitted the region. Historically and politically, Yorubas thrive best in Nigeria when they can have a regional rallying point for negotiations. The rest of Nigeria take us more seriously, politically, when we organize ourselves as a formidable regional bloc. E.g, GEJ had to give concessions (which he later reneged on and paid dearly for) to the Tinubu-led ACN in 2011 in order to win bloc votes from the region. In that instance, he knew whom to talk to (Tinubu) to deliver the goods, and it worked perfectly -- ACN delivered 5 out of the 6 states in the region (with the exception of Osun, which was deliberate btw) to GEJ in spite of having its own Presidential candidate (in the person of Ribadu). GEJ later reneged on the agreement he had with the ACN, and again, the same ACN was able to leverage on its region-wide strength to form a coalition that denied him re-election. None of that would have happened if a rallying political figure like Tinubu wasn't in the picture.

Many if not most of the Yoruba-centric politicians that are making impact in Buhari's administration had their break through Tinubu, all the way up to the VP. So much so that even Fayemi had to recently called him 'leader of leaders', coz he has managed to groom and reproduce more political leaders that have gone on to make impact in Yorubaland than any other politician in modern times.

The attention that the Lagos-Ibadan expressway, which OBJ and GEJ neglected, has received under this admin would not have happened if we didn't have a strong stake in the Buhari government. Ditto the Lagos-Ibadan rail. Under the PDP, Yorubas had no regional rallying point, hence it was easy for GEJ to relegate them. How many Yoruba PDP politicians can boast of a network of political loyalists that cut through the entire SW region? Not one. If it was that easy to command the level of respect and loyalty he does politically across board, other politicians both within and outside the region would have replicated the feat.

Tinubu may not be a saint (no politician is, not even Buhari), but his political capital is unrivaled in Yorubaland, and even his foes know that.

Grayoso:
Bruv, if you stop insulting Tinubu needlessly and calling him names he does not deserve then I have no issues with you.

Will you like or tolerate it if I insult your father ungraciously and wickedly every day?

Jetleeeee:
On this Tinubu issue, I feel like we need to look at things carefully and apply some wisdom. I'm not exactly fond of the man. I don't find him to be ethnically conscious. I don't think God-fathers should exist. I don't see what he has done for Yoruba people. But in a situation where you have all these headies from ogbono land wishing for the man's downfall, I feel like we need to defend him. Ki a ma fi owo wa wo ile. Whether we like it or not, these folks see him as a Yoruba leader. Whatever move Tinubu makes is seen as Yoruba move to them.

They don't care about the Yorubas opposing him. It's why they still blame us for Jona's loss despite giving him a huge chunk of our votes. Ethnicity is a big deal in Nigeria. Every tribe is trying to oust the other. Alot of Yorubas are just too naive and short-sighted to see it. Tinubu's downfall would be seen as "Yoruba downfall" politically. And this is what they want. Even if we want to get rid of Tinubu, we need to prop up a Yoruba leader who has our interest at heart first before doing that. We can't afford to put the cart before the horse. If Tinubu falls today, who will fill his shoes? You need a leader in an extremely tribal country in Nigeria. Nigeria isn't a proper democracy

Topsic70:
Hiding behind ur fluency changes nothing bruv.
I told u, on ds thread (minus other threads) I busted at least 4 Yoruba imposters. (U can check ds fact)
And they all forever held their peace as we speak, including d op.

A discerning Yoruba person can easily fish u impostors out just as a knife cuts thru butter.

The op dragged us thru 6 pages of rigorous rigmarole b4 he/she finally succumbed.
Even some Yoruba's were already swayed by her doggedness not until sammy07 and I finally punctured her balloon and put him/her to perpetual silent mode.

Except u have no 'history', dts when u can escape, but just like other impostors on ds/other threads, u are no different!

Una no reach!

SIRTee15:
Seriously, I can't wait for the moment nigeria will disintegrate.....
Then the fate of each region will be decide by their leaders....
That's when Tinubu and his bullion van messengers/puppets will be exposed as incompetent scammers and fraudsters....
Enriching their pockets at the expense of Yoruba people and it's resources.....
U just can't point to one unique or outstanding achievement of SW politicians in recent decades....
Instead all u see is proliferation of disgusting vices..
I think Yorubaland is ripe for another Agbekoya revolution......
We need to rid ourselves of these filthy men.....

Grayoso:
Look, you're just a kid. Not in age but mentally. See all I wrote above and reflect on it. The essence being that you don't take knives to a gunfight as saboteurs like you want the SW to do politically so we would be cut down by bullets before even being able to draw our daggers.

This is why, despite being good guys, Yorubas never felt comfortable aligning politically behind the likes of Soyinka, Fawehinmi, Gani Adam's, Afenifere leaders etal.

I can understand why people view you as Igbo because Yorubas, even those who have reservations about his methods, generally trust Tinubu's political leadership.

Whereas Igbos hate him passionately and publicly because they won't admit to secretly wishing they had their own Tinubu to end their political worthlessness and harmonize SE politics into a purposeful and strategic vehicle to promote Igbos regional interest within Nigeria.

This is why those that charge you not Yoruba are likely correct. No one says all Yorubas must like Tinubu. Yet virtually all Yorubas accept that we must appreciate his worth to us as Nigeria is currently convened politically. Sammy07 even tried to explain this simple concept to you yet you trudge on obstinately.

Your obsessive and unobjective hatred of Tinubu is not at all proportional to anything the man has done one can argue has made him particularly worse, more worthless or more deserving of hate than any other Nigerian politician.

You call Tinubu corrupt and all other unprintable names. Just name me one Nigerian politician who is not corrupt and is politically hardworking, on behalf of his people and region, as Jagaban is. Tinubu, single-handedly, got Yorubas to the Centre again after many years of political wilderness for us under your beloved OBJ and his PDP 'chop Nigeria geng'.

We are seeing critical infrastructure delivered in the SW and FG goodwill today because of our relationship to the Centre. We have Amotekun now whereas it would never have been a reality under OBJ who would simply impeach all governors attempting to support it not caring Yorubas are dying as long as he continues 'wacking' with his 'Chop life' crew.

You don't speak or think with the pragmatism most Yorubas have that makes them, at worst, consider Tinubu a necessary evil for the realities of Nigeria. Tinubu has never left the political trenches. He is always stuck in, at every level, to ensure the SW is moving forward politically.

Contrast this with others. Buhari only used to show up at election time and never really bothered about daily politicking in the North.

Atiku was even worse because he also never bothered with uplifting politics in the North yet he was extremely disloyal and Machiavellian in his pursuit of power.

Peter Obi, as probably the most high profile politician the Igbos can present, is a laughable lightweight not fit to clean Jagaban's shoes.

Jonathan has effectively retired from politics post office without any particular consideration for the political fortunes of his own Bayelsa State let alone Ijaw ethic group. One does not vene know if he is APC or PDP these days.

Yet their people love and support them while you, claiming to be Yoruba, want us to save our vitriol for Jagaban alone, destroy him, and totally disregard the entirety of what he is about.

You are like the ingrate child who sleeps soundly at night yet complains bitterly in the morning about the method security personnel deploy to keep criminals, thugs and killer at bay to facilitate his restful sleep.

Cuz, you ain't fooling no one. Yorubas respect Tinubu politically. In fact this is one of the litmus test of Yorubaness because most ordinary Yorubas never hate Tinubu as mindlessly and as extremely as you and Igbos do.

Yorubas who hate him like that are those he has collected food from, i.e PDP supremos like Bode George and OBJ, or those envious of the influence Tinubu wields as unelected leader of the Yorubas eg Yinka Odumakin and other Afenifebi goons. We are then left with "Yorubas" like you as either a total aberration or fraud.

Topsic70:
Small pikin! It is dt '50 posts' dt's ur undoing. U never c anything. Lolz....

Topsic70:
Hahahahaha......nwanne, its not about speaking fluent Yoruba, inugo?
There are many igbos born, bread and buttered in Lagos/sw, so u can't use that one on us!

Lolz @ d bolded, I've told u earlier (because I accurately foresaw u'll follow dt route) dt its not a proApc/Tinubu thingy as not all yorubas are APC/protinubu.
Nwanne, an igboman will always talk and reason as an igboman.
#411
#go_figure
#if_u_know_u_know

NGpatriot:
Tell us what he stole, from who, from where, when, how much, who said Tinubu stole their money and so on and on..

I know for a fact he did not touch your money in disgusting Abia..