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politician: prof , yes we agree morsi really failed as a statesman. he deserves to be ousted but there is no wrong way to do a right thing.

the cycle continues....

morsi out..

opponent jubilates.

pro morsi supporters declare political jihad.

soldiers close down pro-morsi tv stations ..al jazreera and. co.

Dissolves parliament (too many. brothers in the chamber)..constitution suspended.



oga obama dey search foreign aid act to. determine whether Na coup or impeachment..

ideality is different from reality...

Prof Corruption is basically saying two wrongs make a right in this case. Today is a particularly sad day for democracy.

Prof Corruption: MB started as a purely peaceful organisation. it suffered persecution for years with many of its leading lights incarcerated. That drove it to a secretive violent organisation. there was a renewed sympathy for the group as an entity that resisted Mubarak for years.

But the goodwill as we have seen today has been wasted. The name alone does not tell a lot in a country where the majority are muslims. Muslim Brotherhood might raise an eyebrow in a nation like Nigeria but certainly not in Egypt. It sounds largely rhetorical there.

Key words here: it suffered persecution and became a secretive violent organisation.
So, they knew everything about MB.


That's it.

dare2think: I humbly dis-agree, it is well known that anti-Islamic constitution is part of the factor behind the protest.

Why are you arguing like this? Even primary school kids know this.


I give up

tbaba1234: ^ If you took a poll, most egyptians would support the sharia, that is why the MB won in the first place.

The problem with morsi seems to be the fact that he was pursuing a party agenda rather than a national one. Corruption was on the increase and there was no significant economic improvement. The conservatives were also against him.

Professor Corruption's main grudge is with Sharia.
They wanted it in their country and so be it

idupaul: The sacking of MorSi from power is the best thing that has
happened to Egypt since the building of the Pyramids .. Good
riddance to the schizophrenic bigot . God Bless the Egyptian
Armed Forces for removing the tyrant trainee

Well, I expected this comment from a "Paul" (iduPAUL)

Prof Corruption: Is MB more conservative than Al Nour? Did he, Morsi, campaigned as a hardliner and uncompromisingly pro-Sharia?
He ran as a moderate!!!

Who/what is a moderate? Their name (Muslim Brotherhood) alone tells you they don't really do things in moderation. Read up on their history.

They knew what they voted for, bro

Prof Corruption: I laughed! That's called doctrine of necessity.

1. Egyptians did not vote for a virulent Islamic agenda. That was a simple reason why Al Nour, a more conservative salafist movement did not win majority. It has a poor showing in the elections.

2.The secularists could not match the organisation of Muslim brotherhood and most often are divided.

3.Morsi ran as a moderate muslim willing to put the interests of all Egyptians above a parochial partisan one.

4.In power, he turned a MB stooge willing to implement anything that favors the course of MB to the exclusion of others. He betrayed the trust.

Now think about this: MB is a "secretive" organisation with a front called Freedom and Justice Party. Won't you be concerned if such organisation is growing in powers?

Sorry, but Muslim Brotherhood were never moderate.
Morsi was a member of MB, so, Egyptians knew and know what they stood/stand for.

Ijogz K: Not everyone has that kinda patience. It's called the Abramovich style of govt

Nigerians and their diehard approach to issues.
Christians are saying it's okay while Muslims are saying it's wrong.


Nigerians: Middle-Eastern wannabes.

dare2think: Be that as it may, you still can not undermine the enormous power she controls unconstitutionally.

Let us not digress.

Legitimacy is key.

She does wield enormous power. But, she is not in charge.

Even Thatcher rubbished her in the ''80s because of apartheid in South Africa.

Expect another unrest in Egypt next year. They really have to curtail this.

dare2think: I bet millions of Brits disagree.

David Cameron had to ask the Queen for permission to lead HER country.

Ceremonial, man. Come off this, man.

Caleboha: In any democracy the constitution dictates how a leader should be removed and the people decide the contents of their constitution. No two constitutions are the same no matter how similar the countries are because every nation has its peculiarities

What does the constitution in Egypt say about this?

dare2think: Is David Cameron more powerful than the Queen of England?

Yes or No

Maybe you need to tell me why the Labour Party rubbished her while in power

Prof Corruption: I had a good laugh.

As long as there is regular free, fair and credible election, democracy has been defined more than 60%. The rest are just peculiarities of the environment where such democracy is being practiced.

Imagine, the military gave ultimatum to a democratically-elected government. I believe in secularism, but, if that's what majority of Egyptians wanted (Islam in government), as expressed through a free and fair election in their country, so be it.
What is the essence of elections then? If an elected leader can be toppled so unceremoniously?

dare2think: Is David Cameron more powerful than the Queen of England?

Yes or No

Yes and yes again. Prove me wrong, please

Imagine, the military gave ultimatum to a democratically-elected government. I believe in secularism, but, if that's what majority of Egyptians wanted (Islam in government), as expressed through a free and fair election in their country, so be it.
What is the essence of elections then? If an elected leader can be toppled so unceremoniously?

There would be no organized government in the West if their military struck every time there was a protest/riot.

Prof Corruption: What's a true democracy?

In democracy, the elected are the most powerful. And, remember, I put "true" in inverted comma.

dare2think: There is no such thing as 'true democracy', each country forge there type of democracy. If Iranians call theirs a democracy, another country con't challenge it

Example: Some 18 yr olds can vote in some democracies and some can't in others.

So having a supreme leader who wields even more power than elected leaders is okay and fundamental to democratic norms?

In democracy, the only legit way to remove your president is through elections. Your vote is your weapon, they say. Why some learned NLanders are in support of this arbitrariness is not clear to me.


This is a bad precedent for budding democracies around the world.

Prof Corruption: What's happening in Iran if not democracy? .

You think Iran is a 'true' democracy? Where they have a supreme leader?

Prof Corruption: "Whoever brings religion to use in politics or in favour of one group at the expense of another will fall anywhere in the world. The summary of what is happening in Egypt is the fall of what is called political Islam."
---Bashar Assad, The embattled Syrian President.

He was indirectly dissing America

[quote author=baby_123]Please, PDP is not an option for replacement. Not now or in 100years. UPN will win in my mind before PDP. Maybe Accord.[/quote]Okay baby.

But, I want you to call Eko Ile out on this. Tell him you're disappointed in him

[quote author=Dr. Wise]This isn't a coup because Morsi and his cronies in government were warned to address the demands of the protesting Egyptians or risk being ousted. The powerful Egyptian military has once again demonstrated their unalloyed patriotism for their nation.[/quote]What too much of CNN/Western media does to Africans

But, wait oo, America tacitly supported a coup?

In fact, on Sky right now, some analysts don't want to call it a coup. The West will soon give it a new name.

I knew he was a goner when he supported Hamas last year

Desola: Official omo ale!

[quote author=baby_123]As a fellow Lagosian, I am utterly disgusted. Tinubu must be displaced. If it will take dumping ACN, then so be it. What he has done has canceled every good ACN has done. Oba Akiolu is such a disgrace. I never thought I would see Lagos fall to this level. Fashola is also going crazy with all the ridiculous charges. I feel sick to my stomach. Something must be done about this.[/quote]Baby girl, it's a particularly sad thing if you ask me jare.

Lagosians deserve better, don't they?

I hereby condemn, wholeheartedly, what Tinubu did.






It is stress-inducing.

[quote author=CROWÉ]As a matter of human talent, population size and natural resources, Nigeria has the potential to be easily one of the five most anything in this world you can think of, that's a lot of potential and what it means is that if Nigeria turns herself around and fixes her problems, any nation would want Nigeria on their side and that is what Obama is buying. For all you fools and idiots out there.

You people keep talking about Americans poison money or whatever, who do you think rebuilt Western Europe after WW2? The Europeans certainly didn't, they were all broke, their women were raped and they were half dead. Today the Europeans aren't slaves to the Americans now are they? The English are relatively subject to the Americans though but Europe is run by Europeans, namely Germany and France. All America does is put money were they see potential so that when you blossom you will be friendly towards them so shut up, accept the money, fix your nation for yourself and your children and appreciate Obama's god damned charity.[/quote]Are you sure? Europe was successfully rebuilt because America wanted it that way.


And, for your information, America runs Europe.