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karleone:
It is well, my dear.
Just find those Engineers who have side jobs they do and relate with often. You can pitch your desires to them. Who knows, they might be of great help.

I'd really love to work in the Civil service. Had a little experience there when i served.

Thank you, I'll do just that.

sconp:
Why not link up with those who are good and see what you can learn.
Asides, I think some of the engr in Civil service know their onions

Thank you, I appreciate

At times, I feel joining Civil service immediately after NYSC isn't cool, right from school I have always wished to practice my profession and be very good at it, I feel I don't have enough experience yet, I always admire Vibrant and experienced Engineers, I really want to be good at what I do.
#thinkingoutloud#

Last week was normal, site visiting and report writing. We've got a seminar tomorrow, Themed: "World Habitat Day"

karleone:
Sorry for the loss. RIP to the dead.


it is well, my dear.


You should see this as a challenge to being able to work with anyone you come accross. Most times, it is unhealthy to bear 'office grudge' (it's in quote) cos it somehow reduces our performance. You can admire a positive quality of this colleague of yours. With that, your dislike for him/her fades away.

Thank you so much

karleone:
Sorry for the loss. RIP to the dead.


it is well, my dear.


You should see this as a challenge to being able to work with anyone you come accross. Most times, it is unhealthy to bear 'office grudge' (it's in quote) cos it somehow reduces our performance. You can admire a positive quality of this colleague of yours. With that, your dislike for him/her fades away.

Thank you, I really appreciate

davide470:
So sorry about the loss of your friend. Be strong for her.

Thank you

We lost a colleague yesterday, though she's not in my district but she was a friend, indeed this live is vanity.
About today, I was in the office throughout today, had to finish outstanding revenue report and weekly report. I wasn't really in good mood cos of the demise of my colleague.
Earlier this week, Our new District Head reshuffled everyone in the district, I am now to work with an Architect (senior colleague) that I don't really like.
I hope we don't have issues while working together cos he can be so annoying (you know all these oversabi and I know it all people) .

[quote author=sconp post=60895945]Why does this sound like Ketu LGA[/quote No, it's Ikoyi-VI

I'm a Civil Engineer, a Civil servant, working with the Agency in charge of building control in Lagos.
Today was really hectic, enforcement team came from the headquarters and our district team had to join them since they are in our district.
Seriously this is the part I hate in my Job, I don't like it when we go about sealing sites but then, some contraventions cannot be overlooked.
I got home around 5pm and was really tired.

OmaniPadmeHum:
it depends on what you want and the level of professionalism you want to obtain in the discipline. This entirely depends on your vision for your career path.

If you want to take HSE to a professional level and apply it to Geology e.g. risks of an earthquake, modelling risks of a land slide, a rock fall, modelling risks of an avalanche occurring given the available variables that causes this phenomenon, You actually can. This is very important to a lot of countries that face these phenomena.

All you need do is ask yourself, what level of professionalism do you want to attain, then you work your way to attain that level by doing the right professional courses or getting the right academic experiences and knowledge. There is a whole discipline of predicting and modelling natural disasters due to geologic/geomorphic processes.

See you can either learn simply that:


Risk=P x C -------------------------- 1

Where

P= Probability
C= Consequences

In its simplest term and based on what the basic HSE Courses teach you about the basic principles. But then when you get to the advanced level you can also know that Risk is as follows in an advanced setting:

Risk (R) = Pr (H) x Pr (E) x Pr (C)--------------------------------------- 2

• R = Risk
• Pr = Probability
• H = Hazard (probability of the existence, presence or availability of a hazard)
• E = Exposure (Probability of exposure to a hazard or a hazardous situation)
• C = Consequence/Effects (Probability of suffering a consequence or range of consequences from the exposure to a given level of exposure from the availability of a hazard)

That is, looking at risk from a probabilistic school of thought. I mean. You can either learn from the basics and then move upwards, or you can also jump into the advanced and curiously study the basics to understand the advanced.

Another example is you can see hazards as something that should be eliminated totally. Like some guy in Subsea7 argued with me. Obviously he has studied basic HSE and felt he could argue with me on this. In his basic rudimentary opinion, all hazards should be eliminated. completely removed. They must not exist. I schooled him that if all hazards were eliminated there will hardly be development. Because things like Temperature, Pressure, Height, etc are necessary for processes and technological advancement. He suddenly saw my point. When producing crude oil for instance, you need it to be hot in certain points and to be cold in certain points. To make it hot or cold you use heat exchangers etc. Heat in itself is a hazard. But this can be controlled. Not all hazards can be eliminated they can only be controlled. He even was ignorant of the fact that their vessel working offshore was exposed to hazards which quite frankly they could do nothing about but to get insurance.

There is nothing like Zero Risk. It is only hypothetical. For there to be Zero risk, one of the functions in equations 1 or 2 above will have to be zero. NONE CAN EVER BE ZERO. They can only have a very low probability of occurrence to suit our usage and applications. We try as much as possible to get them away from 1 (certainty) and we work to make them lover and lower. Note also that risk does not only mean accident or incident. Risk is uncertainty. Uncertainty any unfavorable outcome we do not want. We are drilling an oil well. We want to hit oil and we do not want a dry hole. What are the factors that can affect us drilling a dry hole or hitting a 'wet' hole? This is why I like ISO 31000. It focuses on risks and informs you that risks vary from various schools of thought. HSE, Financial, Geologic, Business, etc....

Like I have advised on this forum, it is good to get the basic ideas about HSE then go further and get higher levels of qualification and specialization. Let me make something clear, the fact that you want to go for an Msc. in Safety Engineering does not imply that you should disregard the importance of ISPON or basic HSE Levels 1,2,3 trainings. If you think you need it. Please do it. Left to me, I would suggest before you go for the Msc. you even do ISPON to give you a basic idea of the HSE discipline entails.

Good luck.

Thank you so much sir, I really appreciate

OmaniPadmeHum:
I will start by informing you that the HSE profession and discipline is composed of 3 core ares of specialization which mixes and gives the profession its name. These are:

1. Occupational health/industrial Hygiene - H
2. Safety- S
3. Environment- E

Other organizations and companies add, Quality and Security into the mix making it more complex and adding more responsibilities for the Unit/team in such organizations. Hence, in many organizations, the unit can even be referred to as QHSSE implying Quality, Health, Safety, Security and Environment.

Now, based on your discipline, you should realize that you are already much conversant with the Environmental aspect of the profession. Hence you are quite good to go in developing yourself in HSE if this is what you want. I mean, there are accountants and other non physical science professionals who are also in the profession.

One thing I want you to realize is that the HSE profession comes with various levels of oficiency. As a result, HSE competency/training generally has six levels viz.

-Level 1-Basic
-level 2-appreciation
-level 3-Supervisory
-level 5-International certificate preliminary
-level 6-Interntionl certificate/OND level e.g. NEBOSH IGC, and
-level 8-HND/BSc level e.g. NEBOSH IDip.

I have an Msc. in the discipline, so I guess I am way over the scale. perhaps level 10 or 12 since Level 6 in UK generally, is equivalent to OND, while level 8 is equivalent to BSC.

In your own case, as a gradate in Nigeria who is interested in the profession, you can take your level of proficiency in the discipline up to level 3 and even further, depending on your interest, time, finance etc. The body saddled with the responsibility of giving professional certification and membership in Nigeria is the institute of safety professionals of Nigeria, ISPON. Under ISPON, you have:

1. General HSE
2. HSE LEVEL 1- Basic
3. HSE LEVEL 2- Appreciation
4. HSE LEVEL 3- Supervisory
5. Other specific professional trainings/courses.

Please note that General H.S.E is not equivalent to H.S.E level 1 & level 2. Note also that H.S.E 1 (Basic) and H.S.E 2 (Appreciation) is for non-graduates. THEY CAN NOT DO HSE 3 YET UNTIL THEY ARE GRADUATES, while General H.S.E is a pre-requisite for H.S.E level 3. This is how it is structured. So you can talk to ISPON and then get your certifications up to level 3. By level 3, you should have been exposed to the foundation of the profession. You can then pick an area of expertise to really develop yourself, if you so desire. Or After level 3, you can go for NEBOSH IGC, NEBOSH IDip, an MSc in Safety engineering,a PhD in Safety Sciences, attend special courses in specific areas in HSE etc...I mean name it.

The engineering approach is not anything scary. Yes, the engineering skills and knowledge gives you an edge in the profession just like height gives you an edge as a basketball player. But that is all there is to it. Not all tall people re basket ball players and not every good basketball player is tall. Please on your own, go and find out the definition of an engineer/engineering. You will realize it isn't anything spectacular. If you want you can develop yourself in an area into an engineering or highly technical proficiency to the extent that you can profer, design and execute solutions to HSE Problems in multi industrial domains.

So please go ahead and don't let that discourage you. Train yourself up to any comfortable level of proficiency that you desire. Like onepin already hinted above, there will be growing demand for professionals and the more expertise and experience you have, the better for you. Even in banking today and in insurance, they need HSE Professionals to give advise in managing HSE Risks for projects, facilities and assets. A good example is the Nigerian Central Bank which, simply put, is trying to develop its HSE Policy and regulations to promote occupational health and safety for Banks and Bank workers in Nigeria. They are even on the verge of recommending certain HSE Trainings and Policy framework for the Banking Industry. Good luck.

Please sir, what advice can you give a geology graduate as regards going for masters program or professional certification?

[quote author=aloeman15 post=59394226][/quote]please is this still open? I have a younger sister who just finished ssce.... which area of eti-osa? Thanks

tojahh:
Available

I'm just seeing the location, PH is far from where I am

tojahh:
Available

Can you post the pix

chykmoni:
Please i need your help. I will be going to Jkk builiding on tuesday. Kindly reply the message i sent to you. Thanks

Hi! I didn't get your message.

Aseyori1:
Please help me out with this now

From Ibadan, enter a bus going to Berger, when you get there , board another bus going to Ojota or ask if you can get Anthony bus from there, if not enter Anthony from Ojota, when you get to Anthony ask for JKK building.

option 2
Enter Oshodi from Ibadan, Oshodi under bridge, when you get to Oshodi under bridge use the pedestrian bridge, when you get to the other side, ask for town planning or ilupeju keke napep ... when you get to ilupeju, ask for JKK building.

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