Metalman:
Any Religion that threaten and kills you for leaving it is simply a CULT.

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Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

roscoleefad:
We should embrace humanity first before we think of imported religion.let take ourself to back old age where no body talk of religion but humanity

Humanity first bro. All these nonsense foreign religions should be discarded from Nigeria

Omudia11:
Look at this Buffon.

Yes, northern Nigeria has areas with 90%
Islam and has strict Sharia law so it should be yardstick not south west.

Have you lived in an Islamic country before? I have. Preaching to a Muslim will get you in jail and if s citizen of that country dares leave Islam he/she faces the death penalty. This same thing is obtainable in every Muslim country where Islam is the state religion and Sharia is being practiced.

A taquiyya lying terrorist like you are a disgrace to humanity.

That shows how stupid you truly are, perhaps that logic should be used for Christians since south east is loaded with more Christians and their criminal acts should be used to judge Christians.
Have you been to North Korea and Vietnam? Perhaps you should use their rules to judge their religion and worshippers.

The disgrace to humanity is none other that you chrsitian terrorist like terrant who recently killed muslims in mosques which made most of you very happy

Jman06:
I'll rather choose an Hausa Christian before a Yoruba Muslim!
Yoruba Muslims have recently become full of bigotry than even some Hausa Muslims.

Generally, I wish we could do away with religion in this country and live like brothers and sisters!

If you are looking for full bigots, it's the Christians. Nobody can accommodate the hypocrisy , sentiments and bigotry of Christians more than the yoruba muslims.

You have called their religion false
You you have called their God fake
You have visited their houses to tell then hell is their abode unless they renounce their religion

More and more but you want to spin it around like you guys normally do.

Adekdammy:


When he helped Amaechi to get his mandate, was he a criminal then?

If wike is a criminal, what is Ganduje?

A bloody and financial criminal and a financial criminal

Omudia11:
Is the South West a yardstick for judging Muslim behavior? Muslims are a minority in the south west and as such will pretend until they're in majority.

All over Muslim countries their is zero freedom of worship. Leave Islam and die.
Don't think we are novices that you can deceive .

But Northern Nigeria should be used as a yardstick to judge Islam right? There are tens of Muslim countries but a nonentity like you will spring up your usual gibberish to reach conclusions

PapaAdanna:
I always laugh when people say Islam and Christianity are the same. If you have had to do anything with a Muslim, u must notice there dogmatic way of life, very aggressive.
Their mentality? Hmmmm

Yes Christians are very dogmatic and aggressive

NotBeenPaid:

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Leave Christianity for Islam and you have a peace of mind, but leave Islam for Christianity then your life is under threat.

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And how come those that left Islam for christianity in south west aren't under threat?

Unlimitk:


Shut up!

I know you are brainless

Do this in Nigeria and it will change to islamization agenda or persecution of Christians.

Everywhere black and white appeared in the same picture, the blacks were abused and ridiculed. These are the people that told us our Gods are nothing and sold us a white man as jesus then stole our artifacts then rewrote our history. The same brainwashed and gullible stupid are worshipping those Gods while branding ours as devilish. If heaven or hell exist then expect the same treatment from them since the black race have refused to he knowledgeable

Lastly, democracy doesn't fit Nigeria. We ought to return to the military era and these pictures and more obviously confirms that

Crenzywilliams:

Then you know nothing of the faith, probably all you know is the religion, just like CRS or CRK, we were taught in school. If you knew any better, you'ld know its a relationship in/with God and it helps us relate with ppl and society.
Christianity is sweet bliss, its the only hope for this dying world, until we all come to Jesus for repentance and begin to study, and follow after Him alone, we'll continually fall, fail and stumble...
Christianity is still the only hope for us all, ts real, sweet and legit.

Exactly what brings division to the world and create unnssersary enmity and monsters. My way is the only way. Only my way leads to heaven while other rot in hell. Smh

sangodele101:
May God forgive this man

Have you asked God to forgive brainwashed people like you and others who don't make use of their brains ?

sangodele101:
May God forgive this man

Have you asked God to forgive brainwashed people like you and others who don't make use of their brains ?

NaMeAboki:


Pls put aside that outdated improbable and over used silly conspiratorial theory of Islamisation agenda - those touting it are mere preying on the fear and insecurity gullible of their audience.

El -Rufai had been in power for only 4 years; I don't think you meant those preceding him: Yakowa, Sambo. Makarfi, Jaafar, Dangiwa etc were all pushing an Islamist agenda.

The trouble with Kaduna (and majority of Nigeria) is that pastors and clerics use their churches and mosques to preach hatred and division among Nigerians; which in turn politicians use to curry support for themselves as local champions.

Regulation is the surest way to checkmate the ongoing poisoning of minds with hatred and distrust; along with the brazen exploitation of faithful followers, especially by those scam artists who call themselves pastors.

Currently, anyone, even an armed robber can easily open church and immediately start preaching without so much as a licence or any system of validation, in order to protect the general public from such untoward influence - the same goes for some imams and their mosques/Islamic schools.

The proposed law would filter the bad eggs amongst them; consequently those with nothing to hide would have no cause to be alarmed.

In this way government would have the power to check extremism e.g. anyone guilty of hate speech could risk having his license revoked and therefore unable to preach.

Thanks for this, too much hatred in hearts of Christians. An illiterate would think this bill is for Christianity alone as they have turned it around like they always do.

tsinzu:

I don't have any business with a well known, hate filled anti Christian bigot like you. You are well known on this forum to stalk all Christian threads on this forum just to vent your rabid hatred for Christianity hence I am not even making any attempt to reason with you. I deliberately avoid quoting clowns like you but If you don't fvck off my mentions, I will continue addressing you in the language a hate filled loser like you deserves

i don't hate christians neither do i hate christianity but i hate bigtots, intolerant and hate filled people and christians have proven they are proud to be such people and this thread is also an evident to that. El Rufai makes a law that affects every religion in Kaduna including the 3 major ones Islam, Christianity and traditionalist but only you guys are screaming blue murder. only you are issuing threats. only you are wishing people dead. It's always only you claiming victims to every scenario. Its always you. You are the bigots here and open minded people knows this.

tsinzu:

The only thing that is worth crying over here is your worthless and miserable life. Get lost loser!!

I know you are really pained with this bill and i wonder why you so called tolerant and peaceful christians are pained with a bill that affects three religions in nigeria. The muslims aren't issuing death threats. The traditionlists aren't crying and ranting but the christians are everywhere with their usual negativities but but they are tolerant and heaven belongs to them only.

tsinzu:

Who mentioned you? Or are you now also a christian?You are worse than foolish, you an imbecilic nincompoop

Quit crying man. We both know how you excel in foolishness, enjoy it while it last.

blazer2018:


Let me just indulge u for the last time...u know it is easier for u to enter into a discussion with someone who believes in and is knolwlegable on d topic of discuss than someone who stumbled across a verse in d old testament on d internet to drive home his position on d matter.

I would have engaged u further if u were a believer...then we could maybe rob minds and reach a mutual understamding on d subject, afterall, nobody knows it all...so understand why i am "running away"....I won't bcus of u sin further against my God...bye bye and stay blessed.

So a believer by your own logic is someone like you who have crammed the inconsistencies and hogwash in the bible. You are a joker

tsinzu:

You are either not a christian or a very foolish one

Because he supports a bill that regulate religion in kaduna? You are very fooolish

oluwaahmed:


Shut tha fûck up and get off my mention bloody jihadi.
What I said its the truth though painful. Elrufai is a bloody jihadi that's why he's concentrating on religious Extremism rather than reasonable governance. So in KD now in less than every 100m u can see at least one roadside preacher Are the churches in KD more than the ones in Lagos? Or Abuja or Jo's? So why regulate it. Is it that KD is now heaven that the only problem in the state is religion? That is why people hate Islam, you guys are never comfortable with existing laws that promote equity. Always want to dominate like Mohammed commanded. In the whole of Nigeria its only 12 states in the north that practice sharia when there is a constitution. Bros get lost you guys are the worst abeg. You guys are a cancer to humanity. Check it carefully, the only war being fought around the world is terrorism. Tufia... I won't be surprised you might even have a suicide vest strapped on u right now.

lol. We know you hate islam, you hate muslims etc. It's your choice, you are the same people that scream religious violence in kaduna which results in several deaths. A govenor is bold enough to curtail the menace but what do we have here. The christians attacking muslims and islam like this law doesn't affect them in kaduna.

Why are you guys filled with hate, bigotry, lies and intolerance?
Why are you guys always victimizing yourself in every scenario?
Why are you guys attacking muslims and islam even though this law affects them in kaduna?
Why are you guys issuing and wishing death threats to El Rufai and Muslims?

The same thing apostle suleiman said that el rufai will die within 7 days but he is alive and just won his reelection bid. You guys are bunch of bigots

Iziquiel:

I thought the ban or whatsoever affects all religions or maybe I didn't read well.

It affects every religion oo. But it's the so called tolerant and peaceful and heaven bound only people called christians that aren't only issuing death threats but also attacking muslims and islam. They keep showing how much hate they have against the islam faith and it's followers every minute and threads like this proves it more

Bidobado1:


I know for a fact that you are the child of a Fvcking Wh0re.

a fvcking wh0re of a mother can only bore a child such as you who out of no where will happily curse her mother like you just cursed your mother. You just perfectly described yourself and your mother.

blazer2018:



Oh I see...i should have known that I am dealing with an atheist.... It is waste of time replying u...I am so so sorry that i did...believe whatever u want bro...goodbye

When facts are presented , you run away.

Bidobado1:


What kind of a society are we turning into if someone needs a license to express their political or religious views. Yes, extremist views cannot be tolerated as it impacts us all, but what happened to preaching, be it either Christian or Islam.
El rufai is a dictator like the senile cretin who occupies aso rock, and am vexed greatly that he is the governor of my state, KD.

You must either be a kid or a brainless religious bigot

oluwaahmed:
This is exactly what the world doesn't like about Muslims. When they are in minority they require special status but once they are in majority they do away with existing laws and impose their religion for others to follow. That is why there is rising hate crime against them in the west cos people now see them for who they are. If elrufai had passed a bill banning display of loudspeakers outside religious buildings then fine, but the whole idea of doing it to churches and requesting permission to preach especially from pastors outside the state is nothing but a subtle jihad. The constitution gives people the right to freely move around and associate within Nigeria. U can pass laws that ban noise pollution in your state don't limit it to churches.

Keep shut and keep your hate to yourself. Suddenly Muslims are the majority in kaduna, weren't you guys analyzing how El Rufai can't win his reelection bid without a christian VP since the state is divided in equal halves between the two religions? Bunch of confused and bigoted hypocrites. Is this law for only Christians or every religion in kaduna? Why do you guys like victimizing yourself in every scenario? Why always lie and rant?

Obere4u:
Everyone focusing on Christianity and forgetting that the bill implies to both Christianity and Islam.

A good bill if you ask me. But the implementation will be the problem.

i have been waiting to read a comment like this but not everyone, it's the christians. They are loaded with lies, intolerance, bigotry and hate. This bill cut across every religion in Kaduna but as usual it's the christians that will be crying victims. A pastor is always issuing death threats, the zombified, gullible, hated filled, stvpid, christians are already attacking muslims and islam. These are the christians that claim to be tolerant and peaceful.

blazer2018:


[s]God hasn't changed, but He has changed the way He mete out judgement (punishment) because of the blood Jesus shed for our sake on the cross of Calvary...in the days of the old testament, people prayed directly to God, and at the same time received blessings and punishment swiftly directly from Him too... but after the birth, death and resurrection of Christ, we started praying through Him to God.

Let me give you few examples of how swift God's punishments were in the Old Testament:

1. Lot's wife was executed by being immediately turned into a pillar of salt when she disobeyed the command to not view the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:17, 26).

After Christ: People tend to disobey God without immediate punishment, giving them the window to go back to ask for forgiveness through Jesus Christ.

2. Phinehas and Hophni, sons of Eli the High Priest, served as priests at the tabernacle in Shiloh. They took advantage of their authority by coercing those who came to offer animal sacrifices to give them whatever part of the beast they demanded (1Samuel 2:12 - 17). They also had illicit sex with some of the women who came to worship (1Samuel 2:22).

God declared, through an unnamed prophet, that he would have the two men executed on the same day because of their many sins (1Samuel 2:25, 34). This prophecy was fulfilled when the Philistines not only killed them during a battle but also took from under their care the Ark of the Covenant (1Samuel 4:1 - 11).

After Christ: You know how many men of God get away with those sins these days?

3. Uzzah, a Levite who was helping escort the Ark of the Covenant for King David, was killed instantly when he rashly tried to steady it as it traveled toward Jerusalem (2Samuel 6:7). Hananiah, a false prophet who led the people to believe lies, is executed by God within a year after he is told by the prophet Jeremiah he will be punished for his sins (Jeremiah 28:12 - 17).

This was another swift and cruel judgement that is still confusing to me till now.

My brother, though I am not perfect in eyes of God, and I know I am a sinner...But I served, read and listened to the word of God to the extent that I know that Jesus was the game changer...he changed everything. [/s]

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

How can you change the way you meter judgement yet you don't change your mind. so many inconsistencies and counter claims in the bible. It's 2019 yet some "educated" folks still take these books serious. Shame!!

alBHAGDADI:

Before you react to this, first out sentiment aside. The church has every right to do whatever it likes on its property. I can only feel a bit concerned if they didn't warn the traders beforehand. However, Remember Jesus didn't warn those traders who turned God's temple into a market place before he flogged them away from the place.

If you put sentiment aside, you will see that we are currently living lawlessly in Nigeria. We have Keke drivers blocking the entrance of a street just because they are looking for passengers. Market women cover half of a busy road causing traffic just cos they want to sell their wares. Danfo buses parking and picking up passengers anywhere as if they don't have bus stops anymore. This illegality has turned our brain upside down that we now frown at measures use to curtail them.

I won't be surprise to see Christians criticize the church for what it did which Jesus Christ also did.

Anybody that listen to you or the likes of thieves parading themselves as pastors aren't only gullible and stvpid but also deadbrain. Jesus chased away those traders selling their wares INSIDE the church and not OUTSIDE.

Also, is burning their goods the solution? These traders are contributed to he growth of that same church yet this is how they are paid back. These are the people we tell not to give useless churches their money but rather help the poor an needy but will curse you and defend their pastors yet the same pastors treat them like trash. Here is an example!!

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blazer2018:



Thank God for Jesus...In the old testament...Those who mock God's name received their judgement instanta

I laugh when i see or hear statements like these, is the God of old testament different from God of new testament?
Didn't the bible say His word doesn't change

Numbers 23:19

God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?

Shanana1:

Listen to urself, did u mention other laws? The topic here is based on tithe, and u re not in support of it. I think u re the one that is confused trying to turn bible upside down...Pls be reading ur bible if you have one and stop being an enemy of the gospel..

Comprehension is your problem