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Elemosho478:
I checked all Your previous post and it all full of How you are insulting Yoruba from thread to thread, you call yourself Yoruba but your only Job on Nairaland is to Insult South West at every opportunity, be proud of Your people for once and Stop being a disgrace

insult Yoruba or insult our Useless leaders who have put me and you in this quagmire called Nigeria today?
you are a big oponu..how does placing curse and insult on past leaders means I'm insulting Yorubas..
yet you cant even bring out or quote a previous post(quote a single one oo) where I abused Yorubas..
you be original akolaa

Elemosho478:
You don't have a Family house in Osogbo and what all you Said are just pure nonsense and fallacy, you are always using every opportunity to attack Yoruba on this forum and it is even obvious to the Dead that you are not a Yoruba man, you are a shameful Igbo be proud of your origin

yes I don't...
ile balogun biiro is not in osogbo,it's in Enugu.( there are two ile baloguns in osogbo, and both are royal houses,and the other one popularly called ile-balogun agooro in the owo-opee axis of osogbo is far more popular than our own)

odenson...why are you not disproving my so called fallacy of my claim rather than repeating same old nonsense..

until you are ready to be reasonable or prove what you claim is a fallacy, then this is my last reply to you.
jefuee oshii.

[quote Boito the Dead that you are not a Yoruba man, you are a shameful Igbo be proud of your origin[/quote]yes..ile balogun biiro is not in osogbo(we have two ile-baloguns in osogbo and both are royal houses and the second one ,in the owo-oope axis is even more popular than our own) its in Enugu state....
ashieree eniyan...I have proven I'm from from osogbo,now prove prove it's a fallacy I'm not Yoruba...
oponu sowenu...always sucking the ass of their bad leaders who gave no feck about them...

until you can prove your assertion or have something more reasonable to say, this is myblast response to u....adinroboo.

Elemosho478:
Be proud of Your Igbo people for once and Stop being a disgrace

ignored from now on if you can not prove your assertion. "he who assert must prove" till then amukumekoo, get out of my sight.

Elemosho478:
You Yoruba wannabe is always supporting Igbo on this forum spewing Trash on Yoruba whenever you get the Opportunity, you use every opportunity to insult Yoruba on this forum while masquerading as Yoruba, it is even obvious to the Dead, shameful Igbo man that is not proud of his origin

oyaa show me where I ever insult Yoruba...
can you bring out a post where I ever insult Yoruba..
me that I even use to bash the igbos before...hateful abuse ni ooo..until I realise our leaders and not the igbos are our problems..
dopemu alagboo..

Elemosho478:
Stop impersonating Yoruba on this forum, be proud of Your people for once and Stop Impersonating Yoruba

afofungbemu...
the onus is on you who alleged than I'm not a Yoruba to prove your laughable allegation.. not me.
what should be of concern to you is to prove whether what I said is true or not..

and why are u shying away from my offer..I even gave you a lifeline to prove your assertion by saying you should come down to my family house in osogbo to meet me naa..

omo-alee

most of these idiots attacking must be APC bots..
it must be painful for them that in Yoruba land, not all of us are stuck in to tinubu's arse or buy in to the nonsensical SW agenda 2023 and will vote our Igbo brother if they can get nomination from one of the major parties..because we believe in justice..
it frustrated them to see 1.7 million Yorubas voting the opposition despite making people think online that all yorubas are pro their useless party..so they resort to petty bullying..

however for this topic,it's nothing to do with party, whether APC or PDP our governors in SW are useless...very useless and wicked..
with Gbenga Daniel being the worst by a large mile...

Elemosho478:
All this just prove my point, Be proud of Your Igbo people instead of Impersonating Yoruba on this forum. What is wrong with you Igbo why are you so ashame of your people?

stop attacking me and disprove my post..
akindanidani,omugo eyan.

Elemosho478:
All those don't fool me, why are you ashame of Your Igbo people?

Shameless liar and imposter

how can I a proud Yoruba boy whose ancestors help flush Fulani out from Yoruba land by defeating them in 1840 be a shameless impostor..
lol...shame we couldn't take back Ilorin for a lot of reasons...

as dididirin that you are,you kept doing adhominem while ignoring my message..
you are what the egba people do refer to as apoodaa

Elemosho478:
You can not deceive me bro, you are a shameless Igbo that is ashame of your origin, impersonating Yoruba on this forum

come to my family house and meet me to tell me that..ile balogun biiro ni ilu osogbo...
its popular because we are one of the ruling house in osogbo..I will be waiting,come and meet me and tell me the nonsense.. or should we meet at the ataoja's palace in oja-oba?

our leaders are bad people and that's the truth...

LazyGold:
This guy is not a Yoruba man, he is a Yoruba wannabe don't let him fool you

ode..so what am I?
an Igbo man?
omo osogbo ni emi oo...omo-ile balogun ni mi ni ilu osogbo...was si agbole waa, ko waa so fun mi pe mi o kin see Yoruba and d see if you will leave without your arm in your mouth..ode oshi.

LazyGold:
The last person you will be able to fool on this forum is Me, this guy is not a Yoruba, he is just impersonating Yoruba


You are a shameful Igbo Guy that is not proud of your Origin

bro..I'm from osogbo...my family house is in oja-oba..and I'm born and bred osogbo boy..

its nothing to do with party, so stop being petty..
our governors are a disappointment and useless and that's the truth..
presently,I'm in ofada ( I hope you know the state the town is) to see someone.. and I can't believe a human being will choose to live in this sorta place...no single tarred road in this town.

we have bad leaders in SW from bottom to top...and people like you still glorify them.

[quote author=SLAP44 post=78033199]Tinubu has really messed up the SW with his bullion van democracy.
our governors are very useless..yet our SW controlled media always glorify them..plus we still have a lot of foolish illiterates among us who are contented with being hungry..

imagine yaya bello being crucified yet aregbesola did even worse yet he get plaudits.

imagine a wicked governor like aregbe who owed salaries,pensions (owe iy 6m) by the time he left being hailed as our best Governor by fools.
left huge debts for his successor, didn't complete any of his projects in the state..
completely abandon the rest of the state apart from osogbo and his hometown of ilesa..
even within osogbo,plenty of abandoned works..
now his successor is not talking about what his predecessor owed nor is he ready to pay..
yet aregbe is seen like some sort of messiah despite his atrocities..
its nothing to do with party..APC or pdp,SW governors are very useless.. with amosun and aregbe being the worst of the lot.

LazyGold:
Where in South West Igbo are not present? Everywhere in South West is like Lagos to them but don't take whatever they say serious, the last time I went to Osogbo I was surprised at the number of Igbo in the city, just ignore them while we keep making progress in South West

we fool ourselves too much in SW..
I've been to the east,there's not much difference..
what people suffer in the east is what the people in the west also suffers which is bad leadership..

so which progress are we making exactly in SW?

you mean like owing huge and useless debts that has ruined most of our states? or you mean the poverty ravaging most SW because our useless governors owe salaries?
or you mean the quality of education that has gone done the drain and has now reach emergency levels?
or you mean Governors choosing to focus on capital (and their own towns) while virtually neglecting the rest of the states?

so pls tell us how we are actually making progress in SW in a way that's better than the rest of the country.
you better face your uselessly wicked leaders rather than fooling yourself and the public.

Unlimitk:
This is just a tip of d iceberg
I still have more to come
Those jewss go hear am
After all to them sw is not developed apart from Lagos
I guess this project and Abeokuta city itself is in Afghanistan
This is how all cities in sw look like
Just visit Abeokuta by christmas and new year, u will think u are in London
Even an Igbo Lady on fb herself confirmed Abeokuta is very beautiful
I'm doing osogbo next

see what you are hyping..
are u not concerned about the rest of the state?
or is Abeokuta being developed equal development of Ogun state?
apart from abk which is just about decent,the rest of the state is nothing more than a shithole..some big towns can not even boast of a single tarred road..I always question why any human will leave in those places..
and yeah,I'm from osogbo,what's actually special about osogbo, a glorified big village while the rest of the state are looking disastrous.. have you been to Iwo,Ife,ikirun,ede,even gbogan,odeomu,ila..etc..
gloryfing nonsense..
you should be more worried about how our SW governors built few roads and bridges here and there in Capital cities of SW,call it development while leaving the rest of the state in ruins and comatose while also owing salaries and leaving huge debt.

chukwuibuipob:
Masterpiece. but i hear say Akute,sango,ijoko and environ dey sufa sha..Hopefully, thr govt elect will do the needful there.E yin omo Ogun,e ku ori re

Ogun state is the worst state in Nigeria..
only Abeokuta is about decent..
ifo for example does not have a single tarred road..and its one of Ogun biggest town..
apart from abk, all the rest of the state is absolutely shit..

LordviccoDaGuru:
In the next 28days, Saraki will be watching #OurMentorPMB on TV as a President of the Federal republic of Nigeria. #iStandWithBuhari
WE STAND WITH A MAN OF HONOR, CHARACTER AND INTEGRITY.

and it will also increase the money in your account na.
didinrin,they will not face what concern their own lives

Naajjii:
Says an imposter

didinrin

maasoap:
I don't think so. Sorry to disappoint you. This one is one of the fools we have in the SW parading themselves as our elders. We know them, we know where they belong to.



Tinubu doesn't care what names you call him, that's your headache. I don't care either, call him what you like. We know that he's leaders' maker, that's what is important.



Really! But you just felt that I wasn't entitled to my opinion. You wouldn't have typed this epistle. Lol



It looks like you're the one having nightmare about "SW 2023 agenda" here. It is not business, not my headache.



So, you knew what the town crier was ranting all along! No wonder you typed and typed and typed.

see this rabble rouser apooda..

Naajjii:
Lol ranting of a slave, toothless. Iyamiri you can't rule Nigeria because your rating is very low. It will be a shame for an Iyamiri to rule us, Niger Deltans or Yorubas are allowed but an Iyamiri never. You can only rule yourselves when you get your Biafra.
Since you are more intelligent, Why dont you utilise your intelligence and control Nigeria? Everyday what we here from you is complains of marginasation. When obj was in power you were crying,Jonathan came the same thing now Buhari is here you are still crying, cowards. All the bad bad news spoiling Nigerian image abroad comes from you IYamiri.
Baby factor people. Where in this world , people would kidnap young innocent girls and get them pregnant and use the babies for money rituals consistently , longterm? This can only happen In your land . This sums up you people.

what do you mean by Niger delta or yorubas are allowed?
as a Yoruba,that's highly insultive...
nonsensical post all through...

maasoap:
How could you call this one an elder?

how is he not an elder?
is he not old enough to be your father?
the same way you guys always abused obj for his views but when its done against mr Tinubu,you will begin to cry about how Yoruba respect elders and all that bullshitt..
every man is entitled to his own opinion..
and it seems like it can be seen in the just concluded elections 1.7 million of us Yorubas actually agree with his view.
you APC sw has alot of work to do with your SW 2023 agenda with the way you abuse and bully fellow yorubas opposed to your view, even though yorubas are people who don't do primordial politics or he is our son politics otherwise the opposition party would have been dead in SW a long time ago.

BaaleOko:
Stop this nonsense, you can't force people to love your hero, it's makes sense of course why Awo is deeply respected and loved by his Yoruba people, and that's fine.. but then it borders on sheer lunacy and delusion when you start to disparage other people (of different ethnic stocks) who might not share that same optimism. For all intents and purposes, Awo was hardly regaled among the other ethnic minority groups that make up the now defunct Midwest region, and that's why there was a plebiscite conjured by their (Midwestern) leaders to be excised from the Western region/Yoruba domination. My point is Awo was ONLY a hero to the yorubas, nobody outside the West gave two fuccks about him, much less his much vaunted legacy (respectable as it were)... you can't force people to love you, you have your hero.. I have my hero, you can't force me to love yours, much as I can't force you to love mine. Case closed.

that's a myth.
are u Yoruba?
awolowo is despised by several yorubas,he is not deeply loved as u claim.
most of awolowo adversaries were even yorubas.
its only on paper you read such nonsense of how awolowo is loved by us.
the way Tinubu is seen is the way awolowo is also seen..both have fans here and there and that's it.

NOHOLDSBAR:
Another Afenifebi idiotic monkey. This old fool can go and jump inside the Legos Lagoon for I care. His views and that of the Afenifebi are totally irrelevant and inconsequential in Yoruba land. They are nothing but pdp loud mouth hungry losers.

later,apooda like you will claim we yorubas always respect our elders..yet u always abused anybody opposed to your opinion no matter how old they are in SW.

oh..and they are so irrelevant 1.7 million voted against APC in SW...
lol

leeport:
Yoruba should not betray Osinbajo like they betrayed Awolowo and MKO

An Omoluabi in Yorubaland is a person of honor who believes in hard work, respects the rights of others, and gives to the community in deeds and in action.

Above all, an Omoluabi is a person of integrity and Prof. Osinbajo is one that embodies everything that upright Yorubas stand for, yet they some Afenifere leaders are not proud to associate with him because he does not engage in pot of porridge politics.

No honest Yoruba leader will attempt to paint Prof. Osinbajo in a bad light. He is putting Yoruba back on the Nigerian and global political map, as a people to reckon with.

We, as Yoruba people, really need to call Afenifere to order so that what happened to Chief Obafemi Awolowo and MKO Abiola does not befall him too in the grand scheme of things at national level. Oladele Olasunkanmi

nonsense.. tell me how Osinbajo has been beneficial to Yorubas. he is there for himself and Tinubu.

Ikechu12:
It's actually so sad and Pathetic. I just googled the groups name as well as the guy that did the rebuttal, they do not existence anywhere except for this rebuttal. Literally couldn't find any other article about them. Just do a Google search on the group. It's so Desperate and Pathetic. I would have pitied Afonja if not for the fact they taught they were smart despite the handwriting was clear as daylight from day one. The so called and self claimed "political sophisticated" getting played like mugus and they have to recreate media group to combat it. Chei.

when you say the nonsense afonja, does it include us PDP voters in SW?
you are a bornfoool like most of your brain-dead people.

Excuzeme:
If we profile all the comments so far, we can categorise them as follows:

1. Those, like this one l am quoting, written by some jealous, uncouth and ill-trained Nnyamirin miscreants.
The "Anger and Hate" in such comments can be sniffed from all the way from Biafra.

2. Those who dont like Tinubu as a Presidential candidate for genuine reasons and would state their reasons clearly without any bile. I fall into that category

3. Those who are "Tinubu-fans" who will support anything he does or says, irrespective of what anyone thinks. For such people, Tinubu is an enigma

IMO, l think Tinubu has passed that stage of putting himself up for "National", Presidential elections.
His "cult" personality outside the South West is divisive enough to make such aspirations nearly impossible (nothing is impossible in politics) and he would be best served, if he supports a Yoruba candidate who is sound academically, wise, has no "baggage of financial and academic corruption" hanging around his neck, is respected across board and popular, like the current V.P Yemi Osinbajo (whom l think is eminently qualified to become our next President) .

If Asiwaju decides to contest (itis within his rights to do so), thereby usurping the ticket of the APC and South West in 2023 (which l think he will clinch the party ticket, if he decide to),
his chances with the South East is Zilch,
his chances within the North is not gurranteed
though he will carry the South West because that is his base.
In the final analysis, his party the APC will likely lose the election to a rival party, if that party is smart enough not to present another "crippled baggage" like Atiku.

In the South West, Tinubu is highly respected and loved for his sagacity, political strategisation and wit but he himself must not dance to the tune and drumbeats of "carry-on, baba'sope, praise singers" who will push him and edge him-on, knowing fully well that he wont win.

I wont use this forum to discuss the failings of Asiwaju Tinubu because it wont be proper (hitting a man when his downfall is being discussed, that wont be ethical and moral) but there are "issues" around him that makes a Presidential ambition not feasible.

Asiwaju should pitch his tent behind Yoruba sons who have proved their worth in the Political arena, like Fashola and most especially,the current V. P Yemi Osinbajo. To do otherwise is to undermine the chances of the South West producing the next President in 2023
I am 100% sure that the North will rally behind a person like Osinbajo (he has proved he is smart, that he is not power-hungry and trustworthy, when Buhari was amiss due to illness).
I am also sure that the South West will support a candidate of Osinbajo 101%. So, with the support of thsoe two regions, he is good to go and will win.
Well, a very minuscle, educated and detribalised Igbos will suport him if they are APC members but seriously, he should not expect any vote from that atrea as their hatred and contempt for "Afonjas" has never been hidden and knows no-bound.

But that also brings into the question, the possibility of an Igbo person ever becoming a President of Nigeria, with the current "political setup and emotional mindset" of the people of the Sotuh East!
The North will definitely (and l can wager on this), not support an igbo President, for historical reasons, for their treatment and abuses on Buhari and Notherners in general, for their penchant to want to divide the country and secede and lack of trust.

The South South will likely give their support though it wont be 100% as some of them are aware of what happened during the Biafra occupation of the South South (for example how Ikwere streets were renamed with Igbo names, right there in Ikwere kingdom!) and like most of them have said, they dont want to be tarred with the igbo brush because they are not Igbos and those share their rabid sentiments about other Nigerians.

The South West, though ususally "logical and rational" in their political decision-making, will likely not support an Igbo Presidency, if it comes in confrontation with a Yoruba candidate. The SW are aware of how the Igbos feel towards them and would likely not waver in "serving them the same Amala, using the same type of spoon".

Putting all the above into perspective, it is obvious that an Igbo candidate on the paltform of any party is dead on arrival, within the present atmosphere.
but there is a strategy the igbos can (and will likely) use:
Like the PDP, t[b]hey can work on the GREED of APC some members from the NORTH who, for personal ambition within the frame of the likes of Saraki in 2015, put their votes behind such person by promising such person say the Vice Presidency with an Igbo President.[/b]
Such "Saraki-like" Northerner can pull some votes from the North for the igbo Presidency while the whole S.East gives its block vote to the igbo presidential candidate, in addition to the majority of the votes from the South -South..

The danger with such permutation is that it does not have 'the numbers' to pull an outright win for any Igbo candidacy.
Bottom-line: An Igbo Presidency will always need the votes of either the North or the South West, for it to fly and if history teaches us anything, it is easier for the South West to change its mind and vote for an igbo candidate (like they did in 2011 whne they voted massively for and to elect Goodluck Jonathan), than for the North to vote an igbo candidate.
Unfortunately, the Igbos have so alienated themselves from the A"fonjas" that, it will take a radical miracle for that which happened in 2011, to happen again ...because the payback from the Jonathan administration was in heaps of betrayal. Once beaten, twice shy, they say.

Caveat: these are just my personal opinion, which l am entitled to and every other person should state their own contrary opinion so we can evaluate it....nothing personal.

I agree with some things you wrote but you also made some fallacious statements.
1)Tinubu is not loved by most Yoruba people,that's one big fat lie, he has his fans sure but alot see him as corrupt,dirty and overbearing.
2)Tinubu can not influence Yoruba voters, past elections including the last one has shown that.
3) Osinbajo will get support but not 101% in SW as you claimed,even if PDP present a northerner,PDP will comfortably get more than 40% percent of the votes in SW, yorubas don't do he is our son politics....at worst PDP will get what Jonathan got in SW in 2015..which is still even very impressive..
and the Tinubu factor will even affect Osinbajo negatively among a lot of Yoruba voters.
any sw presidency based on past sw elections history show it need a strong support of the north.

do you madd people not get tired of fighting each other?

isthatso:
that is not what you said below is your quote:



you are clearly a bit of a dullard, you dont conceive an idea and it manifests immediately or establish the act of parliarment immediately, these things take time. there will be committees formed, discussions on feasibility, location, financing, etc before you finally come up with a plan and go ahead, that in itself can take years. it is only when you have have a detailed plan that you go ahead with the execution and the 1st phase in the execution is giving it legal identity by the act of parliarment. In fact there are many institutions in Nigeria (because of the way we do things these days) that exist before the law establishing them is passed.

The discussion was about conception, you are the one who introduced established into the equation clearly not understanding the difference.

admit you were wrong and stop trying to be clever by halves



You contradict yourself, make a fool of yourself with what you wrote and you still do not realise your folly. I suggest you go to Ife and take refresher courses in English as the above clearly shows you have a problem understanding the English language.


Let's say i decide I want to embark on a family project to document my family history and build a family monument and record for future generations, I discuss the idea in detail with my son so he understands what i am trying to acheive, I am not able to build it while I am alive, after I die my son starts and completes it. is it my son that conceived it? you fool!!!!

SL akintola established oau yes or no?
you are a rabble rouser...you talk too much.

isthatso:
you clearly do not know your histroy, Awolowo conceived OAU, it was established under Akintola who suceeded Awo. You do not conceive a university today and establish it tommorow, Government is a continium. Buhari is building standard guage railways conceived under OBJ's regime. 4th mainland bridge was conceived many years ago, they have done the design but nothing has been done. If Sanwoolu decides to actually implement it are you going to say it was his conception?

Ife was Awo's brain child, Akintola was Awo's deputy and was only following Awos vision and masterplan for the region till he defected in 1962 after Ife had been established. Ife came into being i.e was established under Akintola but I dare you to google the internet and show me any official site or official literature that credits Akintola with the "conception" of Ife.

if Akintola was that important in ife's history (not that he isnt) why is it the first 2 (and biggest) male hostels are named after Awo and Fajuyi and the hall named after Akintola (Sports hall) is a smaller hall and wasnt named after him for decades...clearly an afterthought? Why was it named sports hall for so long and not Akintola from inception? Let me tell you why, because Awo was the visionary and Fajuyi did more for Ife than Akintola. Akintola established it, that is true but he was only following Awo's blueprint and Fajuyi was the one who provided the funds and gave Oluwasanmi his marching orders for the construction of the permanent site. Oluwasanmi despite not being the pioneer VC, had the library named after him because he was effectively the architect of what Ife eventually became. Awo, Oluwasanmi, Fajuyi did more for OAU than Akintola. What Akintola did was sign the law establishing ife as the sitting Premier. The conception, the leadership, the majority funding and the execution were not done by him although like I said I acknowledge that Ife came into existence under his leadership.

Just so i am clear, Awo conceived, Akintola established, Fajuyi funded, Oluwasanmi executed.

Understand the difference between Conception and established and maybe while you are it.......get some sense!!!!

rabble rouser who goes round in circle and end up saying same thing as I did.
University of Ife was established by S.L Akintola..
the act establishing university of Ife was passed by the western region Parliament in 1961
(so how did awo who has clearly left as premier conceived it) ... awolowo left as premier of western region in 1959..he lost out as prime minister to tafawa balewa December 1959..
amazingly akintola imprint has been wiped out and Mr awolowo is now credited for a university he never built.
l

the act establishing university of Ife was passed by the western regional Parliament in 1961...and awolowo left as premier of western region in 1959..he lost out as prime minister to tafawa balewa December 1959..
amazingly akintola imprint has been wiped out and Mr awolowo is now credited for a university he never built.
lol.

isthatso:
OAU was never an offshoot of UI. UI was owned by the federal government right from inception. University of Ife was conceived by Awolowo and owned by the Western government, just like ABU was owned by the Norther region and UNN Eastern region until the Gowon regine took over all universities in the early 1970s. Their temporary site was in ibadan while the ife campus was being constructed but that is as far as the connection with ibadan. University of Ife has more connection with ibadan poly (i beleive they shared their site as a temporary base) than it has with UI.....they have absolutely zero connection with UI and were never an offshoot and has no affiliation with UI.

Awolowo conceived Ife because the federal government at the time refused to establish more universities in the western region and Awolowo realised the west needed more universities to cope with the students who were graduating from his free education programmes. If you understand this you will know ife could never have been an offshoot because Ife was established in protest to the federal govt policy which he felt was shortchanging his people.

you are speaking nonsense...
awolowo never had anything to do with oau...its just revised history and most of u don't read.
university of Ife was conceived and established by chief S.L Akintola,premier of western region then.
all these apoda and their second hand history.

Buckubuck:
Good you acknowledge genuine explanations were made to cure your stupidity. Instead of you to take the drugs in peace and stand corrected, you decide to exhibit the symptoms of imbecility peculiar to your bloodline which means you're not ready for a cure. It is a pitiable circumstance to be a happy fool and to revel in it. But since its a generational thing, I leave you to the clap of bystanders.

that guy is as dumb as his forefathers.