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jl115:
-Vt4s are better than Olifant mk2 simply because it as a proper 125mm gun.... However Tanks have never played a major role in our high mobility emphasised doctrine....

bottomline the VT4 tank is more modern and better than your world war era tanks... FACT

jl115:
- we don't have it because we have other platforms that perform the same role but better as in the Rooivalk.

Not better bro

jl115:
- who says our seeker 400 aren't armed?

Show me you armed seekers bro

jl115:
- Quality above quantity has always been our doctrine...it doesn't matter how many you have when a G6 is firing at it from 60km away.

What quality exactly range or what?

jl115:
-Yet we Patrol more waters than the NN.....


- I don't get what you are saying

In your dreams

jl115:
- SAS protea is operational as we speak... So yes we do have a hydrographic survey ship that was upgraded as recently as 2011

Operational in your dockyard

jl115:
- so when Nigeria doesn't have something it's because you don't need it, but when SA doesn't have something it's because we are broke.... Even though we have a larger budget?... Interesting

You defence budget is not larger than that of Nigeria get that onto you skull bro.

jl115:
- OPVs aren't Frigates.... Learn the difference

I never said they are bro reread what I wrote.

jl115:
-what decent air defence system does Nigeria have.... Please share

Why not use your potent juju on the Gripens and fly them
close to our airspace to find out.

jl115:
- a TDL is not something you can just buy... We wanted to buy link16 but Nato said no.... Hence we built one ourselves and its even better than link16... Good luck trying to buy something that so few countries have in the first place and don't want to sell.

We are also working on ours, but for the main time enjoy

jl115:
- I asked what tactical communication equipment you have.... Not "do you have a signal formation? "

I gave you or what do you want again

[quote author=jl115 post=113854700]-what motorised atgm systems do you have... Show us

We don't need motorised ATGM there are other platform better.

jl115:
- tin shield isn't modern bru.... Its from the cold war

As long as it is highly effective...

jl115:
-NASDRA is an agency not a piece of equipment

I never said NASDRA is an equipment dumbo. read what I wrote again

jl115:
-OK more things that Nigeria don't have: anti ship capability, anti sub capability, no portable ground surveillance radars, no spy satellite must I go on?

All this capability from your dream or where

jl115:
they are buying boots.... Show me a single SANDF soldier without boots..... I can show a number of pics of your soldiers on deployment in your own country wearing trainers

Yes


Lesotho comes to. mind

Bloodofthelambo:
quick to forget, how you were woo.ped in Bangui and left behind some your equipments.

The USA must have copied them




What an achievement for the Southies

kabe1:
SANDF military composition
- No boots
- No Bagder
- No Gripens
- 42 years old vehicles
- 1 Submarine
- 1 Frigate
- 2 Patrol boats
- No funds

Joke Defence Force

Chisos so it is worst than I thought

GreenandGold:
Imagine a whole "GIANT OF AFRICA" that gets defeated by boys who are just wanting virgins in the afterlife

I guess defeat now have another meaning dumbo

jl115:
-Olifant Mk1b and Mk2 are by definition 3rd gen tanks as they have composite armour and have computer stabilised fire control systems... So yeah we have over 190 3rd generations mbts

Those world war era tanks are rubbish compare to our VT4 tanks kiss the truth

jl115:
- no why would we have Super Tucanos if we have Rooivalk?

You can't have it even if you want because you are broke.

jl115:
- we have Seeker 400s

Unarmed seekers actually

jl115:
- T5-52 as well as upgraded G6 which is the longest firing 155mm SPHs in the world. And the G5 is one of the(if not thee) longest firing towed 155mm howitzer in the world... All linked to linkza of course

Still doesn't change the fact that we have more Artillery than you.

jl115:
- SAN has never had an lst in its history since we don't need one.... What we do need is a LHD.

Yes you don't have the money or the balls to venture out of you coast

jl115:
- We have 24 modern BAE Hawk lift

You the parachute operating jack

jl115:
- even current SAS Protea has seen extensive upgrades throughout her life... However as you very well know our new Hydrographic vessel is being delivered next year.

You don't have it now do you

jl115:
- where is Nigerias submarines?

We will get it when the need arrives and at the right time, so it won't end up like the grounded southie sub's

jl115:
- where is Nigeria's frigates?

We are getting frigate soon, when our OPV arrives at least yours are grounded

jl115:
- where is Nigeria's Air defence system?

We got decent defence system that is why no country in Africa can dare us

jl115:
-where is Nigerias TDL?

We don't need it and if we do will get it because we have the money, the Nigeria NAS is enough for us.

jl115:
-Where is Nigerias tactical communication system?

We have got the Nigerian Army Signals.

jl115:
- Where is Nigeria's motorised ATGMs?

We have got ATGMs either motorized or not.

jl115:
- Where is Nigerias Mobile radar systems?

We have modern Tin shield radar system.

jl115:
-where is Nigerias blufor tracking system

The Nigeria military and NASDRA have it own joint tracking system so we don't need blu

jl115:
Must I go on?

Please go on

landnone:
But from my point of view. Even if Nigeria has a higher defence budget than South Africa, South Africa's military is more mordern and well equipped than he Nigerian army. Case in study is India and South Korea. My take no hard feelings.

In what way?


You must be high on cheap weed.

Odunayaw:
The guy is not a serious person. I had a great morning hence I decided to join in the back and forth today

Let Flanker1 come and post Algerian Military pictures let's get sober

P.S
The southies secretly think they're better because of a dilapidating defence industry

Yea!

I have run out of gas already mke I rest jorr

jl115:
Im not running, just learn to read my bru

You are bro

jl115:
I said you haven't deployed outside Nigeria....not that you haven't conducted operations just outside your borders

Stop running around

Odunayaw:
This flight global?
They didn't even list the mig anymore

Watch him say flight global is not accurate






Ominiknowest of all

jl115:
I said you haven't deployed outside Nigeria....not that you haven't conducted operations just outside your borders

I guess Gambia and Liberian are located inside Nigeria

GreenandGold:
Zero shots fired, Nigerian Air Force died a read death

What are you trying to do?


Pics of parked jet or what?

davefurn:
Emotional damage

jl115:
Yeah they said they aren't dead....sorry boet

Naaa wailer



https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/armscor-reveals-majority-of-saaf-fleet-grounded

https://www.defenceweb.co.za/aerospace/aerospace-aerospace/saaf-gripens-still-grounded/

Odunayaw:
Did you take the time to quote this fact too

"Chad ordered three MiG-29s from the Ukraine around 2013, but only one has been confirmed as delivered."

Maybe Chad multiply the jet with South Africa purchased juju



Like the dead but juju powered Gripens

jl115:
How is it dead my bru?

Ask the SAAF

jl115:
We actually have an Air defence system.....we literally don't even have to deploy a single Gripen

You can't deploy what is already dead bro

Odunayaw:
You're talking about SAAF right. Flight Lieutenants in NAF have flying hours your colonels can only dream of.

Well they can log in those hours in RC meets

jl115:
Ok then, so when Chad rapes your airspace with their mig29s you will have no clue what to do?

And when Angola decided to go gaga you sisi will start crying

jl115:
Keep blabing on my bru....Your own Government disagrees with what you are saying

While you keep wailing

jl115:
Keep blabing on my bru....Your own Government disagrees with what you are saying

Who cares about this over hyped fishing vessel

Toju200:
Yoooo guys
SA-Nig Again
Let's all calm down
Fine we're claiming to be better than the other no problem obviously one way or the other we have advantage over another in some area
In terms of tech I'll give it to SA in the sense that they have more technologically advanced hardwares no p
In Terms of Man power and Battle tested
I'll give it to Nigeria..
We currently recruited 5800 soilders last week
Another form is out for NAF and NA for recruitment drive
In terms of experience we've had our share bruh I'm glad we've been to learn our lesson.
Let's not talk of our pilots nw we have far more tested pilots
In terms of Air Defense nw fine SA has upper hand in terms of the ability to engage threats from the ground let's not forget we also do have the TRADCON linking civil and military radars to have total radar coverage over Nigeria
What about Falcon Eye system and RMADS
We're also developing another system similar to Falcon Eye

Hardware production fine SA is ahead and we're already on the same path
Once Proforce new facility is completed testing of the PF jet trainer(BAM) will likely begin


In All lets not argue again

You mean those shining baby toy they called tech that have not been tested in battle Abegi

jl115:
I really couldn't be bother what source you bring mate I got your parliamentary budget downloaded on my laptop

Naaaaa

You are actually bothered bro that is why you kept denying the fact that Nigeria defence spending surpass that of South Africa



Nigeria defence spending is not limited to the defence budget alone, but you still argue it. We presented a source from you beloved sipri and statista and you wailing becomes promax

GreenandGold:
Yawn, when you guys started saying that, j115 was still a teen in this forum. He graduated, held a job, settled in a farm estate... You still singing this song.

And your army remain depilated and broke since then

GreenandGold:
You will stop them with what army?

Nigerian armed force that are better equipped and funded than the South Africa roting army

jl115:
Show me a World Bank source of your defence budget....I want to see it please Also yes Statista isn't a reputable source...never has been

I'm talking about world bank military expenditure in sub sahara Africa, but who cares


The fact that even Sipri your lovely source put Nigeria defence spending at $4billion+, but what do I know you will still argue it

GreenandGold:
Because no one wants to roll-in their tanks close to our borders again.... Unlike you guys, bandits come in and out of Nigeria as they please...

In fact, if I and j115 could get a few boys, we would take Naija's capital.. it's a free-for-all there.

Kikikikikiki

Bandits are home threat and will be treated as such, intact they are getting their ass kicked as we speak your fantasy imagination is exactly what lead to the depilated state of South Africa armed force




No country in the entire Africa can even think of venturing into Nigeria territory not to talk of rolling in tanks

GreenandGold:
That is the beauty of NOT having a civil war.

but, anyways, the Olifant MBT is still the only tank that has actually shot other tanks in combat in Sub-Sahara.

Remind me what year again

I am still waiting

Odunayaw:
Do you need me to make sign language for you to understand that we spend outside of our official budget on the military?

Where did the money for the Tucanos come?

Free the guy na dundi him b



Now you guyz see why convert de giv dem hot hot..

jl115:
nope my source is the budget office of the federation.... Now sit down bru

https://www.budgetoffice.gov.ng/index.php/mdas-approved-2022-budget-details

You are a clown aswear


What you posted is just the budgeted amount for defence and does not include other source of military spending like the 1billion oil confer.



Other source like statista or world bank don't make use of actual defence budget but spending, which covers both defence and off chart spending on defence equipments.




So Mr man, you will have to show me South Africa defence budget and spending that surpass that of Nigeria.






https://www.statista.com/statistics/1219612/defense-spending-budget-in-africa-by-country/

jl115:
yes that's actually the source

Please shoe me the source, or you don't have one





Abi is this another source from your anus