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I've been using my Infinix S5 Lite since 2020. The battery now dies at 91% and its Android 9 Pie no longer has the support of many apps I use daily. It's time for a new device for me, and I've been mulling over different options. Due to the unpredictability on my budget at this time, I've narrowed those options to three:

- Samsung Galaxy S25 Plus Brand New (The high-end option, sort of like a gift and indulgence to myself for holding out on a new phone this long)
- Samsung Galaxy S24 Plus UK Used (The mid-range option, my consideration if budget, logistics, etc. fails me on the high-end option)
- Infinix Note 60 Pro (The base option, one I might settle for if all else falls through)

Lately, I've been getting mixed signals on the Samsungs: bad experiences with the screens and a high maintenance cost outlay. It's left me wondering if I'll getting the best value for the significant amount I'll be dropping towards them. The situation now is really between option 1 and 3 because of that.

My question now is, is Samsung a fine option for someone planning to use for 3 years minimum, or do I just go for the Infinix jeje?

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Comparing Mark's Threads to Chef Dammy's cooking endeavours is too ridiculous.

For one thing, People seem not to know that Mark is a proper social media expert. He's built several over the years. He's been building since before Twitter, and Threads has been in development since before Twitter went to flames.

Yet, you compare that to someone who suddenly decided to take on a World record Cook-a-thon one sunny day, simply because "what can she do that I can't?". We all know how that turned out.

Besides, Mark didn't hide the fact that Threads is trying to do what Twitter can't. It's not aping it mindlessly. It's trying to do something different. Something better.

All Chef Dammy managed to do was make a mockery of the entire show and having a good laugh about it.

Mark and Dammy don't compare. At all.

Ithream:
Recommend one. I will add to my budget.

It's not about adding to your budget sir. The kinds of "beastly" machines you seek are twice or three times over 120k.

I find it funny that somewhere in between the convo here, OP is basing an argument on ChatGPT which:
- clearly stated that its knowledge cutoff is 2 years ago
- will occasionally give inaccurate information and statistics.

Then there's the mention of "looking for a beast" and "fifth generation Snapdragon" all around... 120k?

Truly hilarious.

Odd, but the iPhone makes me more intentional about using my phone. It also helps me achieve a much lower and healthier screen time.

I used to be a heavy phone user, since I use my phone for work. In a week, I routinely hit 13hrs screen on time, and when I get into the breakdown, only 4 of that is useful work.

That's 9 hours of endless scourge of social media, games and videos. Android barely has any limits, and makes me indulge in anything I want.

One time I was playing a game title, but couldn't get past a certain level. Deleting the app and getting the mod took a total of 3 minutes. I was blitzing through the level with unlimited gold and coins. Android was that unhinged for me.

Now, I'm more thoughtful with each app launch, each opened video and social media chats. I had to stop using my phone for work, and I wasn't playing as much games.

Now I average about 5 hours SOT (by choice) and it feels good

Interesting head to head. I'm about to decide between both phones myself.

I'm an Apple fan, but a rational person nonetheless. The only reason for me to buy the iPhone 14 is if I have a MacBook. I don't yet have a MacBook.

That being said, the Galaxy S23 is such a balanced and powerful phone. Hard to ignore. Besides, it fits into my workflow perfectly; what with the flexibility of Android and the power of the SD Gen2.

The Galaxy S23 is the better buy.

naturefellow:
Nice. Are you a designer?

Yes I am

lovediehatelive:
WhatsApp. Tried also uploading it through chrome browser

Okay.

Try selecting the document upload option in the WhatsApp message box. You should see the "browse other docs" option, and that should take you to your file manager.

When there, you can navigate to the file location and select the file you wish to upload.

That option should work. Don't use the chrome browser, since the file you're looking for might be stored locally on your phone.

lovediehatelive:
Please help. I downloaded a document, but can't find it while trying to upload online.

I went back and searched my files, and it is there!

But I can't Find it to upload

First, in what app are you trying to upload the documents?

This design is too derivative, just like the new TheVerge design. A mobile brand needs something more solid than this, but this might just grow on us

samsard:
Android 13 has been out for like two months now. No serious manufacturer launches phones by this time with Android 12 if that's true. A $900 phone without an official IP rating is definitely a bad deal. A Google Pixel Pro is a much better deal at that price point.

Yes, Pixel 7 Pro is what anyone should buy at that price point.

But I don't get the fuss about Android 13 and IP certifications. Xiaomi 12 Pro (which has still not been replaced by the 13 Pro globally) only recently got an Android 13 update - after backs and forths. It too didn't ship with an IP certification. A deal breaker for some, but far from a bad deal in general.

The Phantom X2 Pro is an okay package that lives and dies by that $900 price point.

Cannonleo:
they did pretty nothing

Just a good design ( give them that ), with a thoughtful pouch

Camera setup ( I hope they used a proper Sony Imx sensor )

No IP rating, no stereo speakers , poor fast charge
No android 13, the chipset is okay

Are those your benchmarks for a pretty good flagship? Because a pretty good flagship can be a flagship without one or more those things. Chinese brands do that in general (until recently)

If you've used both the S22U and the P7Pro, it's hard not to see how the P7Pro is head and shoulders ahead.

Better haptics
Better cameras
Far superior and smarter features
Better hand feel

Google ate good this year with its flagship smartphone

IzuKiba77:
I wanted to say something about that ooh lol
The price is going to favoured by selected few but then it's a phantom series,which is top in the aspect of Tecno smartphones and from the reviews, clearly it should be expensive

Yes, provided that they're happy to sell 200 units all year (and I think they are).

Muokechiedozie:
$30 dollars more actually, pixel 7 pro starts at $930

Exactly, and if you're shelling that much for an Android phone, it better be the Pixel 7 Pro

Just saw the review of the Phantom X2 Pro on GSMArena. The device does pack serious punch. Tecno finally did it -.those sons of a gun made a honest-to-goodness flagship device.

The price though. $930 is too steep; that's Pixel 7 Pro money

MmeCherieCoco:
The Xiaomi 12S Ultra is the number one iphone 14 pro max alternative. It has a Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 which is way faster and power efficient chipset. The features are amazing.
Even with everything, it is cheaper than the 128GB version of the iPhone 14 pro max.

This is nice, but to call the Xiaomi 12S Ultra the "number one iPhone 14 Pro Max alternative" is quite subjective - interesting, even.

Pricing. Yes, the Xiaomi 12S Ultra is cheaper than the base model iPhone, but so is the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra - the actual phone the 12S Ultra is an alternative to. The 12S Ultra doesn't need to bother itself competing with an iPhone, because it already has a rival in its Android backyard.

And you can bet that things will get fiercer when the S23 Ultra shows up to the scene. With an 8 Gen 2 chipset, people are already willing to wait till March to get one, as it will be more powerful and accessible. By then, the Xiaomi 12S Ultra would be too busy struggling against the Samsung to contest with the iPhone.

But that's too far out for you, maybe. Samsung's current flagship, the Z Fold 4 already packs enough snuff against the 14PM that no other Android phone has. Naturally, if you're already spending iPhone 14PM money, your best alternative - objectively - is the Samsung that folds.

I personally think Xiaomi 12S Ultra should face Google Pixel 7 Pro if it's all about that value-for-money life. Even then, it will still get soundly beat by the Pixel.

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Allison012:
So you have'nt heard of the itel p38 pro max?? That phone has a hell of badass camera. That's what am using sha. Well, if you don't know the phone, Google will do justice.

Haba, bro. "A hell of badass camera" is a gross exaggeration for a phone like Itel p38 pro max. Then, you went ahead to include said phone in the same paragraph as the Pixel 7 lineup. That's just wrong.

Bodmum:
can't you imagine that silly explanation? It's like buying latest Benz and the owner said its not designed for long journey. Is all iPhone users mad?

This argument no follow at all.

Supercars aren't designed for long journeys, yet cost billions of naira. For example, A Bugatti Veyron will dump all its fuel in mere minutes at full speed. A McLaren Senna will literally catch fire if there's too much starting and stopping (which you'll have to do on long journeys). These cars cost millions of dollars.

Back to the iPhone. It seems you don't understand the idea of "gaming phones". These are smartphones that have been tuned to deliver the most processing power during a game. They're a very niche category of products, and like someone said, the iPhone is definitely not one of them.

Can you game on an iPhone 14? Yes (very well, in fact)

Is it a gaming phone? No it's not.

Btw, dey try pay attention to some technical smartphone details guys like atheistandproud dey drop for here. They could further clear your mind on what gaming phones are.

alabo1:
Phones are not an investment bro. All these debates about which is better is pointless.

Phones can be investments in some cases. Take the new iPhone 14 phones for example. Right at the launch, any YouTube channel that makes content on the new phones will be smiling to the bank.

There's this Australian guy's YT channel that does phone teardowns. He had to buy two of those iPhones for a video. He spent a total of $3700. From the YT revenue he got from views and watch time of the said video, he already covered the cost of the phones. He'll then sell them off at pretty much the same price he bought them. That's investment 101.

ontolegit:
What's the range of the UK/US used price in Nigeria?

200-300k for XS Max and 11

I personally don't see the sense to a Watch Ultra model, but it's nice to see how Apple has priced it.

It's safe to say that all the hype around Nothing's new phone has sufficiently died down. Perhaps the most interesting thing I noticed is the complete silence about the device here on NL. It's like it flew right by us without making so much as an impression. I think that only goes to show what really happened to Nothing Phone(1) on a larger scale.

This is a device from a new startup by Carl Pei. Specs and value aside, it was heavily banking on "beginner's luck" and some USPs that aims to convince people they look cool too. But from the look of things, that hasn't Pei-d off. While you won't see any sales numbers from Nothing, the radio silence from every corner of the internet should tell you all you need to know - this thing was bust.

Not even the fancy and completely gimmicky glyph lights or the clean Nothing skin could sway people to engage with the phone. But surely, people like new shiny things and "innovation", right? A quick glance at Phone(1)'s competition will tell you why that's not so.

We have the Pixel 6A. God knows how much fanboys wanted to die on social media about the 60Hz on that phone when first announced. Now that the dust have settled, it's still one of the best phones out there. Value for money, Software charms, Camera, Pixel - it was a home run twice over.

How about Samsung and the gazillion other mid-rangers from Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo and co? It's a buffet of 120Hz screens, fast charging, garbage software support, jacked specs, 2MP macro sensors, and so on. Let me tell you: throw enough spaghetti on the wall, and some of them will stick eventually.

But the takeaway from all of this - at least the way I see it - is that people love innovation, but will most times only pay lip service. What we truly want is stability. The tendency to avoid relearning as much as we can. That's why people let the flashy glyph gimmick pass on by. A shame, considering that smartphone manufacturers are shrinking; we need new players, but there won't one if they don't get the chance. I'm not saying Nothing is destined to fail, but Microsoft is two iterations into their niche Android phone, yet no dice: that should tell you something.

The Nothing Phone (1) is a piece of device, but once you look past the glyph (especially the glyph) is just not as "reassuringly stable" as the alternatives out there.

Flamethehussler:
You should know better than this bro

And you think Bionic don't have it's own flaws

Go rest your post is biased and senseless

I fail to see how the post is about the infallibility of the Bionic chipsets in iPhones. With that being said, you should get out of your feelings and see the reality clearer.

Some of the points raised in the post have even been proven correct. Where's Exynos 2200? What's Samsung's plan for it? Performance on SD 8Gen1 was great, but what about the heat management? Wasn't it a major cause for the "throttle-gate" Samsung was caught with?

Yet you think the post is senseless and biased.

Illusionale:
Do you reside in Lagos? Sir
If you do, or any mega city for that matter
Please do well to visit a phone shop
Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo have already stuck their feet deep in the market.
In Lagos alone, we receive lot of orders for these brands.
Xiaomi and Oppo are the new big boys in town, for every successful sales day;
These two brands make up at least 40 percent.
They are very much interested sir in Nigeria.
Umidigi, black view, vivo, Gionee, Xiaomi, Oppo have all dug their teeths into our tech fabric and they are not leaving any time soon.
I kid you not.

Yes, I'm quite conversant with phone sales in Lagos, PH, and so on. And yes, Xiaomi and Vivo are selling their products all over. But you're still missing the point. The fact that these brands are selling their products in hundreds here, doesn't mean "they're in town", because they're not.

All these phone sales you see, are as a result of dealers importing these products to sell here. Facts. It's the same thing for Apple. Someone imports the products, then sell to people. The company itself isn't involved in any of that.

Do you want to know how this is true? Pick up your phone and try to call any Xiaomi, Oppo or Vivo customer care representative in Lagos. Chances are you can't. The best that could happen is getting a dealership that offers a third-party alternative instead. How about the nuanced aftersales services? Can you get first-party parts, repairs and accessories for your Xiaomi, Vivo, Oppo phones?

Look past the sales OP, Xiaomi Vivo and Oppo aren't in Nigeria, even if Nigerians happen to buy them.

Btw, Gionee is almost moribund at this point, and it's a case that's working against your point. Phones are not finding it easy to set up shop in Nigeria

I welcome avenues in this phone section where we can talk about the various sides to what phone brands are doing in the country. While there are sentiments and strong expressions, it's still always nice to see the few people who can see things with a open mind, or at least give such a chance.

Incidentally, the main topic of discourse in the house has been, for a long time, the substandard practices of a certain Transsion company. The concerns are real and while phonelanders can get sentimental about it, I'm all for pointing it out as civilly as possible.

But I also think perspective is key here. At the risk of sounding defensive of the brand, contexts and perspectives to phone brands is a subject I'm willing to discuss at length.

Now, the OP mentioning that Nigeria is too big a market to be neglected by bigger phone brands is quite interesting. This is not a matter of "they can neglect...", They've already done so a long time ago, with very little hopes of reconsidering.

You may ask, "how?" Two main reasons: the entire African smartphone market is still a developing one. People don't buy smartphones as often as you think they do, and that's a major concern for the big players. OP sef reason am, how many people do you know change their phones every year. Every 2 years sef. Consistently. Not much.

The second thing is the economic overhead: sure, the people are there, but what's the cost of operation to cater to them? Big brands like Nokia packed up their bags and left the country at some point. E get why.

So, yes. Apple, Samsung, OnePlus, Xiaomi, etc don't care to include African markets in their plans as of yet. Does that mean you can't buy their products? No. Only means you'll take extra steps to do so.

Which leaves Transsion, a company solely catering to African and Latin American countries. There's a certain argument that I see here that's funny: they say Transsion can't sell their products in China or anywhere else and that's why they "dump" them here in Naija.

Of course, Transsion can't sell their products in those places! Like, they're only to spec for African markets, that's all it is! Is it fair? Ethical? Up to international standards? Take it up with the economic forces at play!

See: companies have goals, and in a capitalist system, consumers are means to an end. That's why I respect the Xiaomi community for trying to DIY things for themselves, because the reality is, Xiaomi no really send your papa, especially at the budget-midrange level. Thank goodness it's beginning to show with their questionable decisions on their recent Redmi Note series.

You get what you get with these companies. And if you have the money, you can climb up the ladder a little. Which is why it stirs me when I see certain brand "lovers" or "admirers" absolutely sh**ting on another brand based on details like performance and value for money.

Banters and fanboyism aside, consumers are exactly the same. It's easy to say person A's phone choices are moronic and dumb now, but careful, your fave might serve you breakfast too!

kenedyx:
You sound too geeky.

Take a look at that iphone camera, then the Samsung too. Two beauties, can't say the same for Xiaomi.

Definitely getting a xiaomi phone, but not this one.

I agree with the fact that both iPhone and Samsung cameras look more aesthetically pleasing. Who knows? They might also start looking massive soon too

kenedyx:
Xiaomi effed up with that bogus back camera

Not exactly effed up. 1 inch sensors are still more like gimmicks at this point, and Xiaomi needs gimmicks for their Ultra phones