Very true

bruv:

The Nissan 370Z and Peugeot RCZ are so similar, I wonder which came first: "The chicken or the egg" ?
However, I reckon the Nissan will have more patronage than the Peugeot (esp in Europe and North America) and quoting from Onwan's comments:
"Yeah, better engine, almost the same body BUT a better ground clearance (especially at the rear) - This is compared to the 350Z" it's an improvement from the previous model (Nissan 350Z)

The latest 407 really had me thinking - thats why Im not so suprised at the RCZ. In my own opinion, The RCZ is way more sophisticated than the Nissan; just take a look at the build, especially the roof - this has a F1, Bugatti angle to it, which of course will be backed up by a strong chassis and powerful engine, as compared to the regular helmet design of the ZX. PLUS the RCZ is European - they generally have a standard for build qualities, rather than the Chinese/japs with their clone concepts (excluding the Lexus of course)

sultaan:

Its now a 370Z

Yeah, better engine, almost the same body BUT a better ground clearance (especially at the rear) - This is compared to the 350Z

But on the other hand, being a European build, it is way better than the 350z. Wonder what price it will go for.

Cool design

mrkoma2012:

Well anticipated ride lyk d peugeot rcz.Cant wait 2 c wot it looks lyk in flesh

Its almost a fair answer to the Nissan 350z

@Sultaan
The same thing applies to Hondas at Honda place or Toyota at any of the dealerships. You do not have to take your ride to any of those places for fixing - even overseas, dealerships are a nightmare, hence the DIY kits, tools and concept.

For instance, I was billed N59,450 plus 3 weeks delivery at MB place in Surulere to order and change a steering angle sensor (ABS +Airmatics+ESP Problems) BUT I drove to Owode Onirin and had the same thing removed from my same specs. vehicle for N3,000 and with the help of online guides, I changed it myself at home in 30 minutes (I know IF I have to do it again it will be less than 5 minutes)

sultaan:

About the overheating and battery issues, well it happens to all (ab)used cars  from the auction, the cooling system comes with th $22k Prius.
I wonder how many new Honda engines I can by with the cost of a Rolls Royce engine.
FYI using the HONDA and the other Chinese engines in the same line is not cool.

Are we comparing a fully loaded 2010 Camry to a 2003 Porsche Cayenne or base models?
It is available for those willing to pay the extra $$ for it, when a good GPS unit cost about $180 and can be move between cars.

Yeah I know about the engines in the planes you fly in naija

For the airplanes; thats a whole new topic Bre, I know right there in the states there are lots of 80s airplanes currently flying routes - thats what keep companies specialized in refurbishing airplanes going.

Quality always cost way more than clones.

@Sultaaan
You think those planes you fly in were built in 2010 - Nah, thanks to the Rolls Royce Engines they carry, most of them were built in the 70s - analyse that.

sultaan:

Are we talking about the car or the brand?
I will admit the car is expensive; for those who like to drive down the road quietly screaming " I have money to burn"
A brand just like the car, Ford had money, they bought Range Rover, got burnt and sold it to Tata(has money) now selling(?) Evoque(burning money) who will soon sell it to the Chinese.
And the car; how many owners do you know that owned a Range for over 6 years, or bought 2 back to back? And all those Ranges on Naija road come from the auction(yard sale )

@Sultaan
From my little experience with cars and ownership; I have come to realise that there is a reason why one brand new car costs $25,000.00 and another brand new car costs $90,000.00 - the difference in build material, build quality, handling, comfort and reliability is mind blowing.

When a car is expensive, its not because it has a high price tag; its because for instance, - we keep looking for cold pure water on thirdmainland bridge to cool our blown camry gasket while a bentley or a phantom has its engine lined in pure gold foils to avoid overheating

Its because for instance - you have to drop your side glasses a little bit in your honda when parked in the sun to avoid your fabric or inferior leather interior catching fire while in a maybach or a phantom there is an internal cooling that runs independent of the engine when parked

Its because for instance - you need to always look for a rewire to rent a battery each time your china alternator messes up in your Honda while at a push of a button in a Maybach or a Phantom, a reserved power jump-starts your car. These options come by default.

There was a Generator someone bought in the early 80s, It came with a Rolls Royce engine, it still runs till date - I can tell you how many Honda/Elemax/Tiger things I have had to give away, just to have peace of mind.

So you see, your 2012 Camry comes without a Navigation screen, while Viperman's 2003 Porsche Cayenne comes with GPS Navigation - dont even get me started on the kind of gadgets you will find in a Rolls Royce Phantom, OR in the Maybach, or even in the Benntley

bruv:

@Onwan, I must confess, I'm actually drawn towards the Evoque (5 door version), maybe because i'm in the "yard sale" BUT since I'm a kid at heart, its the Bentley GT Coupe for me, LOL

@Bruv
Im very happy for you Ma!

But then again, that depends on what the 4/5 door version will look like (And who designed it). But their best bet will be to build something on the Range Rover Sports platform, and with those wild lights.

sultaan:

I guess kids rule in the automotive industry, boys struggle to hang in there, and men are sold away in a yard sale to Tata

That still dont make it any cheaper though

bruv:

@Viperman; OMG! You seem to have left out the WOMEN,   LOL !!!

They drive your EVOQUE 

viperman:

MEN DRIVE RANGE ROVERS,
BOYS DRIVE BMWs,
KIDS DRIVE HONDAs,

Then I guess:
Big Men drive the Phantom
Big Boys drive the Maybach
and then Big kids roll out in the Bentley Coupe

sultaan:

Here is an example of how a car maker gets in trouble; when they make a car the ladies love to drive and real men who be caught driving.
I thought they learnt from freelander.[color=#990000]A strictly awd mid-size crossover is what they need to go up against infinity FX[/color], Lexus RX.

One of the engineers that built the Range Rover died after seeing this abberration(although they won't admit this coincidence).The Inidans owning th brand wasn't bad enough.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20100628/CARNEWS/100629895

@Sultaan
Good point. Except they have something real coming up, that new design they have is strictly feminine. They should try a new design on the range rover sport platform.

bruv:

@Onwan; I get the pic you're painting. However, I don't think a RR Phantom was built/designed to be driven by the owner. The driver's comforts may actually be for the chauffeur cos they look more like pilots with the amount of tech gear. They also earn as much as investment bankers! LOL
Anyway, I'd go for a Bentley Continental GT (A bit cliché fo the nouveau rich but rather that than any other cliché ride, )

Now, this GT makes soooooo much sense; Mercedes does not have a coupe that can match its beauty yet. And in my view, its way better looking than sedan you first posted. For coupes, I will go for this one - Its unique.

bruv:

@Onwan; OMG I really had to think hard about that,  LOL
I reckon its the RR Phantom or the Bentley for me but swayed more towards the Bentley because I'll want to drive it rather than having to get a chauffeur for the RR Phantom [ Q.E.D. ]

Same question back to you, "IF you had no budget for this class of vehicles, would you take the Bentley, the RR Phantom or a Maybach?"

If I had to pick one, I would pick the Phantom, IF two, I would pick the Phantom and the Maybach - For a vehicle in this class, the Bentley quickly falls into the S-Class and BMW 7 series category, Its kind of flat and has a regular look to it - Maybe its the size, BUT something about it does not stand out.

Take one look at the Phantom, OR the Maybach, they are unique - although the length of the Rolls makes it look like a passenger's car BUT research shows it's built with the driver's comfort in focus.

Just my view.

Bruv
This is very solid, BUT IF you had a budget for this class of vehicle, would you take this over a Phantom or Maybach?

ahmedsabu:

@Onwan, I understand your point, the number of 16gig WiFi I am expecting is not too much, I have already sold a decent number, and I am confident I will sell more. The 3G version will be available shortly through me, but I'm just working with requests I've gotten for now. Remember 3% is a lot in Nigeria, and location is not a factor in my case. There are a lot of factors responsible for the choice to sell the WiFi model  FOR NOW, there is no way I will not sell 100 between Lagos to Maiduguri in the span of 4months. And I am resident in Nigeria.

Theres enough market for any sensible product in the Country.
Even a thousand out of 150million can make a man a millionaire.

Let me know when you have the 3G model, I am interested.

viperman:

Middle,

How yo go dey price porshe cayenne for 3M?

Viperman, whats your best price on this one?

@OP
When you come to Nigeria and you look at the average residential area, then you will find out that Wifi is only available in 3% of those places. 3G means people can slot their 3G sim cards into the iPad and browse on monthly, weekly or daily subscriptions - which is what is tangibly available in Nigeria.

Your quote IS NOT for the Nigerian market. IT products are market dependent, thats why the iPad has the wifi edition and the 3g/wifi edition. You need to be properly reaearched before making investments. 3G version is your best bet.

@OP
You should have posted this thread before placing the order or having those things shipped out; Only the 3G version will be useful in Nigeria. Wifi availability is very very limited.

@Tetleytauto
This is a very nice ride. Whats the current location of the vehicle?

@OP
You need to confirm the oil level, like Fhemmmy rightly pointed out PLUS the oil quality. If its all okay, then it might be an electrical problem. An easy point to start from is to disconnect the battery terminals for about 15 minutes then reconnect it. (All these before checking the oil level sensor and wiring)

IF the problem persists, then you need to check IF there is any oil leakage anywhere, OR the oil filter is well fitted (very important). Please let us know

ric78:

pls I need to order an ecu/brainbox unit for my vw jetta 2000model(american spec).[b]I v search all over here(9ja)[/b]and was adviced dat d only way 2 get it is 2 order for it.Pls inspire and co.come 2 my aid. U can reach me on 08086010680.

Have you searched at Ladipo? If you have the old one removed and go to the VW/Brainbox line at Ladipo, you will see it there.

True

Im not sure this model carries the Benz engine. But its not just the engine that makes a Benz, its everything there is to it. They built the Rexton to look exactly like the ML, and in the advert you can see it drive in front of the ML - like a competition or something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCp4uj1b6T4&feature=related

I hope Its the same one. Almost insulting.

We know the REAL vehicles and we know those that are made to look like the real things. Did you see the Rexton advert? they actually knocked the ML right IN the ad.

@Fhemmmy
OK, thats the same Honda above, posted by Mastro; Its clearer now - especially with the interiors. There's just something missing in the design (or finishing) - Its more like holding the real Nokia E90 and the China clone E90 side by side - they dont exactly look the same AND everything is missing at the same time. Like a China clone of the BMW X6.

Maybe looking at the X6 will clarify my point.

@Bruv
That particular X6 is waaaaay better looking than the Range Rover evoque, PLUS its 4-doors. But that honda ??

@Bruv
I dont think this new Hummer will be any bigger than the Toyota FJ in size; I'm not that sure of the engine size BUT it better be big enough. Its looking like the Range Rover is sort of feminine - more like an updated freelander coupe.