ayusman16:

@carshopper, thanx 4 hearing me out. i believe u now undstand my pains? my sincere pology 2 anyone who must av been upset by my posts. i just dislike anything hideous. i believe dis matter wld av been amicably resolved if d dealer had shown positive signs. a customer shld nt be made 2 suffer. @onwan, why nt start by posting your own details? i have reasons 4 hiding my number.  

If I have a case that I bring to nairaland I would want transparency and would state specific details. You or your friend do not have any real case here, you do not even have any business with nairaland because you refuse to let your friend come correct in the open and state his case, you did not even have the respect of givingbus his name and number so that Banix will even know who it is and further explain.

On that wednesday, If Banix wants, I should have the authorities present there so that the car can be moved from there to Area F and from there to Panti so we go all out and prove the real issues here.

1. Did your friend go there with a mechanic?
2. Did your friend test-drive the vehicle?
3. Did they tow the car to your friends house or he drove it there himself?

It's now very clear that dealers should be very prayerful not to sell cars to dupes who will buy a car from them and tomorrow see another one somewhere else and think they can blackmail the dealer into taking the car back and giving them a refund - ridiculously claiming he spent 300k on accessories ( we be mumu here ?)

The right thing to do is to have that car seized and you pulled for slander - if you dare me I will take it personal and you will be shocked at the kind of thing that will come up on that your Wednesday.

All this private number and lack of full disclosure is very insulting to concerned nairalanders like mysel.

If ayusman's or his friend is real; post your name and phone number online here, snap and post the picture of the car in question, and answer simple questions like;
1. What is your friends name
2. Did you go with him to banix for inspection
3. Did he go with his mechanic?

Anything art from clear answers and straight names and numbers indicates that you are a fraud, and do not exist, and that for some strange and silly reason you are attempting to tarnish Banix name.

Do not prolong this issue, provide this clear details or you do not exist and you are simply a waste of Internet time.

What I know is that Banix would ask you to come with your mechanic anytime you tell him you are coming for inspection and he would give you the keys to drive round Alausa in the vehicle you are interested in.

I have been asking the poster that question and he has been avoiding it - I am sure his friend went there with a mechanic and that same mechanic messed him up BUT I do not believe he spent 300k (for just those accessories? - no complete engine? Or transmission? Or paint job? Or 20" alloys? - it's impossible)

I don't see how this can even scratch Banix image, no accuser is real, the only real entity here is Banix, his numbers are online right here, he has customers and people who know him here. We don't even have ayusman's friend's name or number, he is not even posting here himself so we don't even know what really went down.

He might even have lied to Ayusman16

I have met him in person and have called him concerning vehicles and have been to his car lot, nothing more than that BUT the issue here is simple; you started this thread with your friend's story and gave your friend's side of the story, what had me bugging wrier two things;

1. Your friend was there with a mechanic - yes or no? You never gave those details or answered that from the go
2. Spending 300k on a Honda on just accessories without complete engine change or transmission or even have the decency of a paint/bake job? And we are supposed to believe that? Because we don't know about vehicles?

What is your friend's name and phone number, let me call him directly

ayusman16:


@onwan, if u believe banix then u wld believe anything. am shocked at what u r saying. if banix claimed 2 av met me then u or him needs a shrink. i don't av issue with u but with banix. it is very obvious he wasnt refering 2 me.

I thought it was your friend that bought the Honda and not you. The question is, did your friend go with a mechanic? Yes or No

And this should be a lesson to dealers and nairalanders, that it's best to hear from both sides. He spoke with and for his friend, I called banix and spoke with him and I'm posting what he told me. Anyone in doubt should call Banix, his number is on his adverts

Siena:

Onwan, I'm really relieved, and happy for Banix. It's good to be able to make in depth enquiries, that will clear issues that crop up in this section. I feel for Ayusman's friend. I still maintain this could have been settled way before things came this far.

Sometimes, dealers need protection from buyers too, who can sometimes be less than truthful.

This had nothing to do with Banix, it was all setup by the guy's mechanic, and the figure 300k makes both the poster and the friend liars in my own opinion and I'm serious about that.

And this should be a lesson to dealers and nairalanders, that it's best to hear from both sides. He spoke with and for his friend, I called banix and spoke with him and I'm posting what he told me. Anyone in doubt should call Banix, his number is on his adverts

@Ayusman16
I called and spoke with Banix, he confirmed he first sold an EOD to one person, and the same person brought a friend ( I'm assuming this would be you and your friend). He said the second person brought his mechanic and they test drove the EOD for a long time and he allowed the mechanic do all the test he wanted, he said the guy also came with someone who does customs papers to confirm the vehicle documents. At the end of the day, the mechanic and the other customs papers person gave an ok for the vehicle before the transaction was concluded.

He confirmed to me that the guy said the guy told him he spent 80k on the vehicle, and that he is shocked at the 300k being claimed by you. If I was Banix I would not even bother giving any explanations as it's not worth typing out based on silly and malicious allegations. It's really unfair.

You should even go to the Police so that they can take that car from your friend and you will be shocked at what will happen.

My conclusion is that you are not a truthful person and you are only out to try and mess with Banix reputation. Your friend has issues with his mechanic and not Banix. And you also owe the house an apology for this trash you started.

@Ayusman16
I called and spoke with Banix, he confirmed he first sold an EOD to one person, and the same person brought a friend ( I'm assuming this would be you and your friend). He said the second person brought his mechanic and they test drove the EOD for a long time and he allowed the mechanic do all the test he wanted, he said the guy also came with someone who does customs papers to confirm the vehicle documents. At the end of the day, the mechanic and the other customs papers person gave an ok for the vehicle before the transaction was concluded.

He confirmed to me that the guy said the guy told him he spent 80k on the vehicle, and that he is shocked at the 300k being claimed by you. If I was Banix I would not even bother giving any explanations as it's not worth typing out based on silly and malicious allegations. It's really unfair.

You should even go to the Police so that they can take that car from your friend and you will be shocked at what will happen.

My conclusion is that you are not a truthful person and you are only out to try and mess with Banix reputation. Your friend has issues with his mechanic and not Banix. And you also owe the house an apology for this trash you started.

BizBooks:

You are partially correct. The arbitrator will not have the power to punish one party or the other after the arbitration process. He can only make a recommendation. But if a party refuses to respond to the arbitrator within reason, then judgment is automatically entered against them. We should tailor the process to suit our needs. If a party understands that they can ignore the arbitrator without consequence then they will do so.

In the ongoing case, many people have called on the other party to state their side of the story, but so far they have not done so. In fact they are under no obligation to respond to such requests. But if we have an arbitrator, they must respond to him or risk losing their priviledges as dealers on NL.

Makes sense, that would give chance for explanations and lessons. Nice idea.

ayusman16:


dis will be a welcome development but my fear is dat like oda ideas we've raised, it will go down d drain. If thr ws something like dis in d first place, thr wld av been no need 4 me opening dat thread.

There was and there is nothing wrong with your thread, you had to voice out and people's opinion had to be heard. We learn everyday.

The fact is that, if Banix has a vehicle I want, I will buy without hesitation because people bring them to him everyday and He makes his cut as the middleman or dealer, he doesn't manufacture them and he did not use them before selling and most owners will not even allow him have the vehicle for a few days except the toks. Most times, he has to be called ahead to make the vehicle available ahead of inspection, so it will take a total novice to buy a lemon car from someone who will ask you to take a test drive and to bring your own mechanic.

The 300k is a robbery as far as every department of my knowledge on vehicles is concerned, and I can tell you right now that it does not make any sense to me at all.

We are talking about an EOD here; I can replace the complete engine, both front hubs including callipers/arms, complete transmission, steering rack and bake the vehicle for 250k.

It does not make any sense to me at all. And before you knock Banix, go to his lot first.

@ayusman16
You need to console your friend and have him get a good mechanic to look into his vehicle (I know a good one in an ok workshop at Owode). It's a Nigerian used vehicle so there is no surprise in what happened and I do not believe Banix will know a car is a lemon car and sell it as that. People bring cars there everyday to sell and drive it off at the end of the day - I know that because I have been there like 5 times.

If you go to the Police, that car will be in custody and your friend will not get a dime, he will even spend money to get the car out.

Like I said, it's not the dealer, it's the buyer that should know what he want and check it well before buying. A dealer does not have to be a mechanic, the buyer has to be a mechanic or come with a mechanic that will represent him or her truthfully.

It will be good if your friend can come online and tell us if he test drove the car, if he had a mechanic check the car and if there was any kind of after sales agreement between them. He should also confirm if the car had been in Banix care or Banix had to arrange for the car to be available on request of inspection.

There is no easy way to say it BUT intending buyers should check well before buying.

I personally believe there is no dealer that is 100% or that has a clean sheet; if a dealer is the type that tells you what he knows, what if the owner did not tell him everything?

The fact is that any naija used vehicle needs proper inspection and lots of patience - with mechanics, there is a very thin line between them working for you and you working for them, that is why you cannot afford to be a novice on these things.

But I still insist that blowing 300k on an EOD without a complete engine change, complete transmission change, a complete alloys wheel change and baking is a waste of money and a rip off.

ayusman16:


@onwan, u r right but please note dat all parts changed and mentioned were not engine related. I thnk d buyer has learnt his lessons. All nairalanders who also want 2 buy a car shld take a cue 4rm dis. As banix and friends? u av not heard d last 4rm me.

@Ayusman16
My whole point and angle in this issue is that the guy was duped by the mechanic both in the pricing and changing parts that do not need to be changed. If you buy a ride like that, that does not need a paint job or an engine change, then you have bought something nice, the only thing is that you will budget like 50k to 100k to take it to grade, which for a Honda, my first point of call would be the "legs" (front wheel), then steering rack, transmission and a bit of wiring - this is simply from online research on that model from users on both factory and usage defects.

I still believe he would not have spent that much on a naija used EOD. I've bought registered vehicles on nairaland and once you don't let them rush you, you will spend peanuts to get your ride in shape.

I think the lesson should be learnt that;

1. The buyer should inspect a vehicle thoroughly before buying ( lots of free driving space around Banix)
2. The buyer should be well researched on the type of ride intended
3. The buyer should have a mechanic he/she can control and supervise (you cannot afford to be a novice when it comes to these cars and that kind of paper)

If this sounds one sided, then tell me what you would say to Banix or any dealer if for some reason you need to sell the car you are currently driving and you want him to sell it for you.

I feel for the buyer because it's a bad mix of events but the mechanic got him real good. You blow 300k on an 03 EOD without a complete engine change? it's a disaster.

ayusman16:


@onwan, i really appreciate your responses but how do u explain a car dat was almost towed 4rm d 2nd day of purchase? d legs of d ride paved way in d same wk even b4 d mech touched it? i knw wat am talking abt bro.

That's my point; it's a naija used and our roads will half that fragile shaft and a good mechanic will advise you to have it fixed or changed on purchase and that should be like 5k for the two front or 1,500 for repairs of each side (depending on the condition). Also note that there are toks Japanese cars and even SUVs that have that problem (that same one).

Patience and a lot of research is what you need to buy any vehicle, new, used or toks.

BUT, before completely pulling out, that shaft will at least have given your friend some signs -especially at full turn on a test drive - and even you know that when buying a Honda, one of the major lemon factors is that sound at full turn - the shaft or the arms, even if a dealer is crooked enough to grease it, you will still feel it.

I think the bulk of the thing is with the buyer.

Just like you will wake up tomorrow and find your car jerking without notice, someone you sold it to this afternoon will think you sold him/her a lemon car.

It's all so strange. I think the key is the mechanic plus the choice of vehicle. I have bought registered vehicles and they are pretty cool.

I think if one would buy a naija used, then it should not be a Honda or a Japanese, they seem to have expiries from these testimonies, and they also seem to attract a lot of stupid mechanics too.

Sorry for y'all losses. Get a Beemer, an Audi or a Benz next time and forget all those diaper using autos.

@Poster
There are a few things I know that is done at Banix before you buy a vehicle; he usually would ask you to drive around Alausa in the vehicle you want and would also ask you to come with your mechanic (which in most cases is the downfall of most buyers - because those mechanics will drain you on your new ride). If your friend was given these options then I think he has to think very well to know where he went wrong.

From the list of things you wrote that your friend changed, it is clear that he got a mechanic that was playing with his purse while trying to find out where the problem is ( that can be very expensive).

Usually with used vehicles, there are a few things you need to work on ( used I mean foreign or naija used) but in most cases, the excitement of having a new ride gives a bad mechanic an advantage over the owner.

For instance, a mechanic I met at Kandid autos charged me 12k (workmanship only!) to service a ride I was buying from kandid and warned me that I must bring the ride latest the next day to his place before I can even think of using the air conditioner due to a "bad" fan clutch and told me it will cost me 45k (or else my engine will overheat). I got home and went online on a forum and checked the symptoms of the failed clutch and found out that the guy was putting me on - I have been using the AC for about 3 months now full blast without any issues at all.

I think your friend's problem was his mechanic. On the other hand, the car is Nigerian used and Im sure you know it takes a lot of patience to get those in very good shape or to one's taste except one is buying an outright toks.

harakiri:

If you are all about fuel economy, then buy a KIA picanto or Toyota yaris.If you want to enjoy your driving,then get yourself a bimmer!

Or an S500.

That's some filled up Nav. You got there. Real cool color

@labiyemmy:

There are loads of this type of car in Nigeria -

Everyday in Abuja i see a different type. Big deal!

The truth is that with the Internet and companies like orderbay, you can maintain ANY type of vehicle in Nigeria and the shocking part is that the cost will be way less than maintaining the so called "low maintenance" vehicles, I had that kind of experience a few weeks back.

elms:

@ Onwan
Thanks for enlightening me more. Take  care and have a nice week

You too sir.

The B department is the core operations department and it's at the Force Headquarters which is the IG's office. That's why his deputy has to be a direct signatory or someone sign FOR his deputy. It's like local operations team heads and the DPO.

If you google cracked dashboard repair, there is a kind of coloured adhesive/finish that can cover the whole thing.

By the way, it's not the whole top, it's just the part that has foam underneath, the inner part where you have the AC vents is intact because it's hard plastic.

For me, it's not even an issue as the mileage, the interior and the body is in very superb condition. I would buy it IF I had a budget for it and spend 10k or way less to fix that thing

If it's really a problem for you then you should call Yemi.

igbsam:

How much does an engine seat cost. I just discovered 2 of the engine seats are badly damaged. And i was told by my mechanic that I need to service the power steering rack. pardon the way i spell it if am not correct. How much does a tokunbo engine seat go for ?

I am not sure how Much it costs for your car/model, Yemi is in Owode market, Ladipo market is also another good place for a good bargain.

I also think the steering rack could be Ayusman's problem with his car.

It's always something small BUT one needs a good power steering mechanic to have a look. That's why Im recommending Yemi.

Alright. Thanks

ayusman16:

Guys!

I really need your advice. I have changed the whole engine seats but the vibrating steering is getting worse.

Call Yemi on 080 2345 5209