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ComradeShegs:
Against Mancity or Liverpool?

Mancity

TheGoodJoe:
We do not know what the apology is about because it was a personal discussion. If they wanted to apologize, they should have made the apology public and let us know if the referee and VAR officials had conclusive evidence to rule handball.

We do not know if he even apologized. We just know what the journalist told us.

Ofcourse they apologised!
whether secretly or publicly is irrelevant!
Or are you insinuating that Skysports is lying?
And if they are,why havent PGMOL come out publicly to debunk such apology?

TheGoodJoe:

The point still remains, did the referee and VAR official have conclusive evidence to rule handball? If they did, please show us.

and did their association apologise to Everton and Lampard?
If they did,then for what reason or what offence?

TheGoodJoe:

The point is too simple. You are running in cirlces.

Do you have a concrete proof that all the ball is in the red area. Note that. All the ball is in the red area. If you do, please show us. Because I do not know anyone that does. Not even the VAR officials.

Nooooh not us but you because you seem to be the one having eye problem

Is hitting the upper arm considered as handball?
If the ball hits anywhere on your arm which is below your armpit, it will be considered as a handball offence. This is because the armpit is defined to be the upper boundary of your arm.

Is elbow a handball?
The elbow is considered to be part of your arm. This is because your elbow is below your armpit, which is the upper boundary of your arm. A handball offence will be called in this situation.

If after showing you these pics,you still dont see that its handball,then you seriously need to book an appointment with your ophthalmologist!

TheGoodJoe:
PGMOL (Professional Game Match Officials Limited) manager Mike Riley personally rang up both Frank Lampard and Bill Kenwright to apologise for the wrong decision made during the match.

We do not know the details of the discussion. That statement is from a journalist. There is no official statement of that discussion. Why was it done in secret? I will only take it seriously when we get an official statement.

The only official statement came from the referees which stated no conclusive evidence to rule. Until now, that is not challenged.

Was there an apology? yes or no?
If Yes....then why did they apologise?
Like i said before,you cannot put something on nothing!
Clearly the apology was due to the pen incident!
Lampard said the apology was because of the pen.....Hence,they admitted though secretly that they were wrong about their decision!

TheGoodJoe:

That is the point. Is all the ball from that picture in the red zone? You can not ascertain and there is no technology that can tell that.

The law does not clearly state if all the ball, a part of the ball or even if a mm of the ball is in the green area, means no handball.

So, they could not rule handball due to the new sleeve rule.

Finito.

Are you seriously kidding me?
You gave an illustration to depict the area that is perceived as handball and the pic of Rodri clearly shows that the ball touched that area....In other words,the ball touched Rodri's elbow and forearm which depicts part of the handball part....!
Should i install a zoom feature or a 3D view to show you? Haba

TheGoodJoe:

That apology to me is a gimmick to prevent a ban for Lampard. Lampard openly called the referees and VAR official incompetent and said his three years old daughter will do a better job. That meant an FA suspension.

What kind of apology is that when the referees released only one official statement saying that they could not rule because of no inconclusive evidence.

Then tell us they apologized secretly. If the referee really were apologizing, they should have released a public statement.

That is no apology. I believe he called Lampard and explained the rule better to him and apologized for the confusion.

They never released a public apology. Just gear say.

Your first paragraph is purely based on assumptions!
Well atleast you accept that an apology was made!
Now you cannot put something on nothing....An association cannot apologise for nothing!
Skysports reported that the PGMOL made a call to lampard and Everton to apologise....

PGMOL General Manager Mike Riley Apologises To Everton's Frank Lampard For Penalty Wrongdoing Against Manchester City
DAMON CARR
MAR 1, 2022
Following Everton's clear penalty claim being turned down against Manchester City, PGMOL (Professional Game Match Officials Limited) manager Mike Riley personally rang up both Frank Lampard and Bill Kenwright to apologise for the wrong decision made during the match.

The ramifications from the poor decision made by both Paul Tierney and especially VAR official Chris Kavanagh have the potential to be huge in terms of the teams affected.

Saying that the apology was a gimmick o prevent a ban for lampard is a halfhearted attempt to erroneously speculate!

TheGoodJoe:

That is the point. Is all the ball from that picture in the red zone? You can not ascertain and there is no technology that can tell that.

The law does not clearly state if all the ball, a part of the ball or even if a mm of the ball is in the green area, means no handball.

So, they could not rule handball due to the new sleeve rule.

Finito.

Your illustration of the handball red spot and the picture i put up shows explicitly without doubt that it was a pen and hence the apology issued by PGMOL!

Android22:
You can read my previous posts even outside of this thread to know a little bit more about me. I am being serious, but you are probably the least intelligent Liverpool fan I have ever interacted with and it is funny because most Liverpool fans are not daft. You basically are presenting reported speech from nobody who was involved in the incident and from the myriad of empty words channeled into your drivel, at no point did anything up here contradict me. You are just excited by the dramatic and mischaracterized caption that has nothing to do with the substance. Even more laughable is that you went on to define PGMOL to me even when until now, you kept saying VAR and FA said, when I was the one who kept rightly saying it was the PGMOL. It should show you how daft you are.

Now to add to your ineptitude, you are not only arguing with video evidence and Paul Tierney's gesticulation on the day, but then claiming that the same VAR that Tierney points to in the video as the reason he is sure it is offside to claim it is not offside even though this your article here says nothing about what caused the incident and only that Everton were apologized to. You are not qualified to have this discussion. And I mean that with all frankness.

So much writeup with less logic!
No wonder your acclaimed intelligence is 6 feet below!
PGMOL apologised to Everton because they knew their member made a clear and obvious error by not awarding a pen to Everton!
The focus was on the pen not given not the concocted offside from blinded fiends like you!
This is one of the reasons why i defined PGMOL so that others can understand their significance!
The rest of your hilarious blabbing and endless balderdash is best ignored!

TheGoodJoe:

The truth is that many have not yet been fully educated on the new handball sleeve rule. VAR was not helping us. They lacked the evidence to rule because the law is not crystal clear on it and no technology to rule.

I am happy that as a mancity fan,you didn't go down the route of that hilarious clown that was popping out funny videos despite numerous evidence against him.
However based on your illustration as clearly seen, where did the ball touch Rodri?

Insipidvamp:
Oga, write petition to FA. Beg them to count the goal and give City three points and deduct 1 from Liverpool. You can also plead with them to reschedule the match. I don't know why you are still crying after almost a month.

Android22:
How can I be giving excuses I am ahead of you?

So why are you here? You want to know if you will meet Villareal instead of LFC? Fear fear

Android22:
Do you see how silly you sound?

Ohh no...silliness has always been your logo! You are still no aware of it yet! Check well!

Android22:
Why are you focused on how much I should have had?

Well because of what you had and what you will be willing to share as the fixtures progresses

Android22:
You who are better why are you not ahead?

Were City going to win every match from November 1 to May 21?

I thought they were invincible!
Thats where LFC comes in and thats the reason behind the fears expressed by city fans like you

Android22:
They apologized to Everton for saying that they could not tell that the ball hit Rodri's arm. They did not say they were apologizing because Richarlison was not offside abi? I literally have to spell it out for you.

PGMOL apologise to Everton after VAR failed to award them penalty in Man City defeat

PGMOL General Manager Mike Riley made personal phone calls to Bill Kenwright and Frank Lampard to apologise
The General Manager of the Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), Mike Riley, has personally apologised to Everton after VAR failed to award them a penalty at the weekend.
During the final minutes of Everton's game against Manchester City on Saturday, City midfielder Rodri clearly struck the ball with his arm during an attempted clearance, however both referee Paul Tierney and VAR official Chris Kavanagh failed to award a spot-kick.
The decision caused outrage among the fans at Goodison Park as the away side held onto a 1-0 win and manager Frank Lampard vented his frustrations during his post-match interview - levelling the blame at Kavanagh.
In his astonishing interview, he accused Kavanagh of not being able to do his job properly and described it as "incompetence at best."
He said: "We've lost a point by a professional who can't do his job right. It's incompetence at best. At worst, who knows?
"That's Chris Kavanagh. It's completely on Chris. The referee [Paul Tierney] on the day knows it was a penalty. [But] he couldn't see it.
"The decision is incredible, incredible that loses us the opportunity to get what we deserved. It wouldn't have needed more than five seconds to know it was a penalty. He should have told the referee to give it or to look at it."

You really need to go back to night school because your level of comprehension is seriously impaired!
Maybe your type jumped window during English class!

Android22:
You are mumbling incoherent gibberish because you cannot deny the evidence. Your argument is just based on the politics of the PGMOL and not on the evidence that you could see. You have forgotten that NBCSN is not the PGMOL yet they too showed you Richarlison was offside.

Why are you so allergic to facts?

What does PGMOL stand for?
Professional Game Match Officials Limited
What does PGMOL stand for? Professional Game Match Officials Limited. What is PGMOL responsible for? Formed in 2001 to improve refereeing standards, the PGMOL group officiate across all EFL, Premier League, and Football Association (FA) Competitions – with all three organisations funding it.
Incase you dont know who they are.....

The same body have apologised to their terrible mistake and you are here talking trash because it favours your team!

Android22:
You are confusing me for someone else. Better check yourself. Since Nov 1 City only drew 3 games and lost once to Tottenham. Liverpool were a point ahead in November and now you are a point behind silly. You were 14 points behind after City beat Chelsea but you had Brentford the next day which reduced the points to 11 again. You still had an outstanding game which was Arsenal that you won 2-0. Which is now 8 points. City drawing with Southampton, Crystal Palace and losing to Tottenham is 7 points dropped that is why City is still a point ahead of you.

Most Liverpool fans are football ignoramuses. Factos.

My sincere apologises for that slight mixup cos it seemed as if both of you were actually sharing the same encephalon hence It would not be out of place to relate him to you!
You are even so silly for exposing the ineptitude and carelessness of your club!
The same outstanding games could have been lost or drawn you benighted fella!
If you had won all those games without drawing or losing to spurs you still could have maintained a humongous distance from LFC but we appreciate the kind gesture in allowing us get closer...who knows maybe you guys might also allow us attain the summit and then you will start with another new set of excuses!

Android22:
You lost 5-0 the only time you played me with a red card. Keep deceiving yourself. How many players did you change when I whooped you 4-1 in Anfield or 4-0 the season before?

Stop chatting nonsense. Is this offside? Did Tierney rule offside here? Just check for yourself.

Stay on the issue of discus rather than prevaricating!
Tierney relies on VAR for that however the same Jazz that poured on your brains also affected the other officials who could not see a clear and obvious pen!
After the jazz had cleared from they eyes,they issued out an apology to everton!
If it was offside,they would never have bothered to send an apology! Simple!
Your cowardly and haphazard attempt to goad over your past victories against LFC is not only jejune but a stark reminder that LFC still remains a club that will never allow Mancity turn our beautiful EPL to a farmers league....your manager still harbour a huge amount of fear and respect for LFC!

Android22:
City led by 8 points not 12. You had 2 games in hand when it was 14 points and I am not worried at all. I was behind you in November and now I am ahead of you with 5 games to go. Good luck seeing City lose the league.

Excuses FC just the same way you shamelessly made a blunder that Foden did not play in the FA cup!
It was actually 12 points with LFC having some outstanding games to play
Lets even assume without conceding that city had 12 points,its not even enough excuse because LFC could have lost or drawn however,LFC is a point behind and any kind of slip up from you dear city will just usher LFC to the summit!
This is your greatest fear! Admit it!
Since you are a point ahead,why complain on an LFC thread? This LFC vibes dey worry some pipu

Android22:
So you cannot deny the evidence but you wanted Everton to be given a penalty even when the evidence shows offside? Daylight robbery is what you want but not what the evidence says? Why did the PGMOL apologize? Did they apologize for not giving Milner a red card? Fabinho?

Go and hide somewhere. You have nothing of substance to say.

You have to cover your head in shame for a clear and obvious decision that the ref and VAR conspired to help you team escape!
Did they apologise to everton...yes or no?
Did they apologise for not giving Milner or fabinho a red card? absolutely not! Thats because it wasnt clear and obvious!
Even if they had received a red,would that have won you the match? Joker!

Android22:
Typical scousers that hate facts.

Imagine talking about the league when you are a point behind. Lol

If you are a point ahead,why are you worried nah?
Or deep down are you afraid that LFC might just take that title from you despite leading initially with 12 points?
Joker!

Android22:
You are deluded. I gave you clear video to watch. Even gave extra links showing Tierney on the day. Why should I spend time shredding your lies when a video will do it?

Yeah i am deluded just like millions around the world who saw a daylight robbery on everton but you kept posting videos that are either insignificant or irrelevant!
Why did the association apologise to everton for not awarding a pen?
If richalison was offside,they could have given that as reason why a pen wasnt given but all mancity fans including you decided to switch your cerebrum off because it favours your team...Nonsense!

Android22:
I gave links because I don't like to spend time debunking rubbish when there is more than enough evidence to do it.

You have not even started!
A clear and obvious pen but ruled out because jazz covered the eyes of VAR

Android22:
I don't have time for baseless talk. Did I provide evidence or not? The PGMOL apologized for saying they were not sure it touched Rodri's arm in the region that qualifies for a penalty. Nobody discussed offside because VAR did not check for offside they checked for the handball. Look at my links to Tamel. It shows exactly what Tierney ruled for.

Rodri absolutely had no pressure to use his hand. No Everton player was around him.

You are the one bringing up baseless talks!
Seems you didnt even watch the match....the ball touched the illegal part of his arm and he booted the ball away knowing that he was guilty!
It was clear and obvious!
No one talked about the offside because a mancity player kept richalision onside hence not giving a pen to Everton by VAR for rodri's handling of the ball still remains a mystery!

Alaganature09:
I’m glad we won the game but I would want jotted to start...

Klopp is trying to rotate the squad due to amount of fixtures currently!
Thats why Jota may likely start against Newcastle while mane or diaz will start from the bench!

Android22:
Rodri's hand touched the ball but Richarlison was offside before it that is why it was not a penalty. Tierney ruled offside with the the help of VAR and the linesman.

His hand didnt only touch the ball,he handled it before his subconscious reminded him that he was in a dangerous position and attempted a row Z in a guilty fashion!
This was shown multiple times on various sports programmes that richarlison was never offside!
Even the head of VAR who was brought in on skysports said Everton were unfortunate not to get a pen for Rodri's intentional handling of the ball!

TheGoodJoe:

It is very clear that the referees and some forces behind worked over time to keep Liverpool in the Premier League race. However, they are still a frightening side on their day.

Either way, let us face Real Madrid at Bernabeu before thinking of Liverpool.

Please try to also explain to us how the ref or VAR isnt also working tirelessly to see that mancity retains top spot despite looking the other way on numerous occasions including mancity's Rodri obvious handling the ball in the 18 yard box against everton at goodison park before nervously kicking it out in a guilty fashion?

chikason22:
Ladies and gents
That's the victory I told you earlier.
FT. LIVERPOOL 2:0 VILLARREAL
We go to Spain next week and get our tickets for final in Paris
I am so Entertained.
Thanks to you all.
See you in France.

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Villareal came out with an 'Everton' script to frustrate LFC forgetting that they also need the same script for 90 mins!
Next week,they will be forced to come out of their shell and that will be their downfall!
The scoreline doesnt in anyway reflect the overwhelming dominance of LFC tonight but i will take a 2-0 in order to remind our players that its not yet over!
WeMove! #YNWA

fergie001:
You no mention me, Sir

I will be watching you closely incase manutd win tomorrow
I wan check something

EbukaHades10:
Change in shape.

Most Liverpool fans here as at 2018/19 or thereabout (Crazygod, Openmine, Wordson and co) know as we dey talk say Klopp no get plan B for his formation.


Thank God e don dey get plan C sef (Origi)

He actually had a plan B but he didnt trust them enough even when they helped him clinch that semi final game against barca at anfield...I'm talking about the sterling performance of backup players like Origi and shaqiri in the absence regulars like firimino and salah!

Angelfrost:
I only have records of the results... Who won and who lost!

The rest are explanations for fans to console themselves with.

You dig?!!

Foden started and Debryne was on the bench!
Why he did not start is irrelevant...they should ask their coach why debryne didnt start!

Englishisamust:
Thier key players was absent in the match

Debruyne
Foden

Liverpool was with thier full squad

Oga stop these irrelevant excuses....mancity lost! simple!
I dont also think you even watched the match!
Debryne was on the bench and Foden started!

what happens when their loved ones are kidnapped?
Indeed common sense is not common!

goldennugget:
It is sad that ASUU is holding our future leaders hostage. In as much as I sympathize with their struggle, I believe reaching an amicable compromise is the way forward.

You are blaming the wrong people!
There was an agreement in 2009 btw the FG and ASUU which led to the suspension of the strike which the FG failed to implement!
Another negotiation of the 2009 agreement was made during GEJ administration where ASUU will be given 1 billion every year!
When PMB administration came,the GEJ-ASUU agreement was halted and since then there were different negotiations after series of strikes by ASUU!
There was a negotiation in 2020 where ASUU had to reduce some of their demands and FG agreed only fail in the agreement that led to another strike...even a committee was setup by the FG to mediate with ASUU but it ended up being counterproductive because the head of the committee came back with a report that the FG were responsible because they failed severally to implement on agreements being made with ASUU!
ASUU have been the ones trying to find an amicable resolution to the incessant strikes while FG have failed to implement on their own agreements!

Judolisco:
ASUU has asked NITDA some questions why NITDA never reply something score 87% Hw d thing take fail?

The issue is how do we expect NITDA an agency of the FG that is hellbent on ensuring IPPIS for academic lecturers, to be truthful and transparent with their test score on UTAS?