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Onnasucs1:
This is entirely different mate.

There are innate abilities and there are also learned abilities.

You need to be taught how to read and write but most times what you eventually become in future, largely depends on your innate ability.

This is the reason why no matter how you learn how to sing, you can't sing better than Adele.

No matter how you learn how to draw, you can't draw or paint better than Pablo Picasso.

Those abilities are Innate.


I ask again, don't you think the ability for some to have natural affection towards the same sex is innate?

But were you Pablo Picasso taught how to draw?
Was Adele taught how to sing?
We are referring to basics and not what happens afterwards!
Even the aftermath of the basics will depend of the influences you have...for instance,someone influenced and motivated Adele to become one of the best singers!
Someone told Picasso that he can be the best in drawing!
But everything starts from that early stage in life....without that early stage formation,the won't be a Picasso or an Adele!

Innate abilities are arguable!
But one thing I can state here is that no one became what they are today with out the basics they picked up during their early stages in life!
Hope you know its so easy for a child to be convinced to join bokoharam or Isis considering their level of 'influence' on them!

HuntSon:
That was systematic homphobia the same way women and black people were treated as inferior back then! So people didn't feel comfortable in their natural selfs!

So as you watch gay scenes, has that made you gay?? So you're telling me many gays came from gay homes since you came from a straight home?

Many gays haven't had sexual relations before but they are fully aware that they're gay! If it were for anything, with the way y'all push heteronormativity, they wouldn't have been any gay person.

Lol....you don't bring in a totally different argument to try to justify you support for tge acts of homosexuality!
They are totally different.... Please don't try to make us deviate from the main issue!
Stick to the acts of homosexuality!

You are reading to reply but not to comprehend!
There was none of that to watch during my childhood stage as my entire film collection was purely about the love of a man and woman,the advent of having acts of some homosexual scenes in films was only recent publicly!

Family values shape a child during their early stages in life....it influences their decisions in life!
3-14 years is a critical stage in the life of an individual.... If you want to influence a child wrongly,this is the stage!
You can still bring forth a disoriented child if the family values are terrible!


They haven't had sexual relationship as if you followed them to their bedroom!
Are you saying this for sure or are you being speculative?
Have you been in their bedroom or closet to know what happens behind closed doors?
This is not even the main point of my argument.... My point is that no one was born with any sexual orientation from birth!

Onnasucs1:
I'm not supporting their claim but your analogy doesn't make sense.

Who teaches babies how to crawl? Because infants most likely hasn't seen anyone crawling. It is innate.


I'm trying to reason with the possibility of gays coming out with a natural affection towards the same sex. I'm not certain about it yet

So you believe a child can pick up a book and read without been taught right?
So a child can learn to stand without being assisted? Right?
Oga you can disapprove of my assertion as you like but no one during their early stages in life can make decisions or have an orientation without influences from family,peers,environment, what they read,what they listen to and what they watch!
The idea that such acts were natural is a complete joke!
Its like hilariously implying that bill gates knew he will become a billionaire from birth!
Smh

HuntSon:
People were gay before the advent of the media and porn!

Why haven't gays turned straight after all the heteronormativity that has been forced on them through media, lifestyle, religion and homphobia??

Remind me when you took that conscious decision to be hetrosexual?

Your assertions though understood are very wrong and can't stand the test of time!
Let start with you first argument, you said people were gay before d advent of media and porn....this assertion is false!
It was actually these two entities that emboldened them and ensure they evolved into what they are today!
The homosexual act before now was medically seen as an abnormality before media backed by some money bags who practised such act ensured others became affectionate towards them using the same media....

Secondly,like I said before,a human formation from child to teen is basically shaped by three things....what they read,listen to and most importantly,what they watch!
We can't also take away the influence of the environment and guardian!
Once a habit undetected is formed,it will be hard to break free without an unforced decision from the individual!
No religion,lifestyle or pressure will stop one who is determined to continue that act that was learned during their early stages in life!

Lol....there was no decision to become whatever act I am currently practising now!
Like I said before,these acts which we now consider a norm was formed during the individuals early stages in life through the influence of reading,listening and watching!
These three subjects shape an individuals orientation,and convictions in life!
For me,I was born into a family where there was a man and woman with a future desire to have a lady while the lady dreamt of having a guy by her side!
Hence,that gave me an orientation and a decision!
Any other thing contrary was seen as an abnormality!
Even films with such abnormalities were considered a turn off!

All what I have stated can be traced to the family system!
The family shapes and influences a child's growth or trajectory in life!

Onnasucs1:
I try to believe the bolded. But in some cases, it isn't true.

If you carefully listen the some of these guys, you'll find out that they were attracted to the same sex even from childhood.

Wentworth Miller himself said he attempted suicide severally at a young age because he discovered he was gay.


Sometimes, I ask myself what kind of societal influence would make a man prefer to dig the butthole of his fellow man.

Somethings doesn't just make sense. I'm really confused on this case

Oga they can say whatever they like just to make it sound sensible and believable to people in order to draw sympathy!
No one was born with a particular sexual orientation!
How did a child know how to feed?
How did a child know how to walk?
How did a child know how to write?
Did they come naturally?
Even at birth,did Wentworth even know what was homosexuality?

Humanoid01:
When you marry your fellow gay brother, and e start to dey ask for pikin, make sure say you devise natural means wey you go take born for am o.

Mazigabriel:
I don't believe it's from evil spirit, I can agree that it could be natural in some people

The argument that its natural is also false and lacks subatance!
So are you saying you got attracted to women(let's assume u r a guy) from birth without any external influence from the environment and family?

Mazigabriel:
some say it's evil spirit but from my research, it seems some people have some natural sexual attraction to there fellow sex.
this may prove sometimes gay or lesbianism could be natural..

Its got nothing to do with evil spirit or being born that way!
Both assertions are totally false!
You become a blank slate when you were born into this world but your orientation is made or marred by what you read,watch and listen to!
We can't also take away influences from family and peers!

falopey:
If your dad was gay, he would have never crossed paths with your mum and your mum would never have crossed paths with your dad. Give yourself some sense. There wouldn’t n have been any sperm and egg to share to produce you . And there would have never been you.

Thats why it baffles me when gay couples opt for adoption. Why can’t they live with the consequence of their gay decision. If the mankind had chosen to go the way of same sex marriage, the world wouldn’t have continue to exist for thousands of years. There would have been no procreation and every one would have just died off long before the present civilization. And human life would cease to exist.

Great submissions to sufficiently counter his half baked ramblings!
At times I wonder if such orientation to such stupid act makes them lose their sense of reasoning!
If his parents were into the act of homosexuality, he would not have been conceived by now!
No point stressing ur self trying to reason with that one....

praiseneo:
The way Gays enjoy their intimacy baffles me
So you go just set yansh hole make your fellow man put preeq inside

God go over busy on judgement day wella ooo

chai

Raydos:
What is the scores Abeg

2-1
united losing

dadamonie150:
dont joke with me

Abeg chop ur L in peace jare...this afternoon too hot

dadamonie150:
The game na ojo ojoro, na atlanta get the 5 and liverpool 0

fergie001:
Common Atalanta.....awoof

Common Arsenal

thoollz:
Where's the Aston villa on the table compared to where Liverpool is right now? Watford? UEL? U sef on some strong weed brush.


Moreover is Jota a defender? Kip living in the past when the future is there to be taken.

The mumu aston villa team he is using to mock liverpool have shipped in 7 goals and were destroyed by Southampton!

Onlinesmart:
This jota is a damn sharp striker. I wonder why Man-U didn't discover him earlier ahead of LFC. He's very quick with the ball, doesn't waste much time on key decision. He knows when to position himself for passes. All in all, give it to klopp for building stars. Even almighty Barcelona couldn't discover JOTA. Klopp is a genius abeg...

Even if he had gone to manutd,Ole would have benched him or even play him out of position!
Just look at a fine midfielder like Van da beek not even playing regularly at united!
That's how confused and technically inept Ole is!

JentuPrinz:
Werner rejected Liverpool,so they got Jota.

I am so happy he rejected us!

form is temporary class is permanent.
Firmino will be back with a bang!

Xixtie:
Some Liverpool fans are just simply ungrateful.

Bunch of blabbermouths.

Not all!

donoro:
My boy jota just benched firmino permanently with this performance

why una dey yan like this nah?
There is no need comparing these two!
Its even a blessing to have both of Jota and firmino in the same team...this will ensure that there will be competition for places!
Firmino is not finished...he is just going tru a rough patch
Mo salah and Mane went tru that patch before but they came back with a bang!
...Firmino will be back with a bang!

Xixtie:
Ungrateful set of ingrates.
Jota is a very awesome buy but why ridicule a wonderful player like Firmino?
You people are just pure ingrates.
Nonsense.

True!
Every player will always go through that phase......but Firmino will definitely be back!
I just think he needs to rest a little!

wat am i seeing? 5-0?
This one don pass PES 2020
But why MOD dey waste time dese days to arrange the scores na?

Political clowns

Islie:

Adeboye also reiterated the call for restructuring of Nigeria, stating he is not a party to the breaking of the nation.

According to him: “I am not in support of the opinion that the country should divide because in our togetherness we are strong.

“All we need to do is having an agreement to share everything equally and be principled. We are stronger together but we should restructure.”

INDEPENDENT

Seconded and supported!

forghe:
Wike is trying but let the development be even.
Its not only Obioakpor and Phalga we have as local governments in port harcourt
Peace✌�

No state government under our current unitary system can take care of all local governments in the state!
I stand to be corrected!
Devolution of powers is what we should clamor for. Where there is state and local government autonomy........This will ensure that governance will trickle down to communities, enable our those in position to be productive and ensure accountability from all our leaders from local to state!
This may not be a ready solution to all our problems but its a step in the right direction!

Please before you apply for the fund,find out if its a grant or a loan!
If its a loan,find out when you are to pay that loan and if interest is involved!
A loan application of 5million for a business that requires frequent electricity and some level of security cannot be sustained in a country like Nigeria!
I see no reason why the FG can't partner with world bank and give out grants to entrepreneurs just like the Youwin program during the time of GEJ!

oluwatosink:
That's one thing I love about ole . Stealing point from the rich and dashing to the poor . Donot get surprised , when Man united beat City , Liverpool and Chelsea this season.

So why did they not beat chelsea this season?

oluwatosink:
Normally arsenal is a sure win under Ferguson , Jose Mourinho days , Now Ole has turned things around now. We have no t win arsenal in any premier league for the last three EPL seasons. I just hope he wins Liverpool when we faced them this season.

You could not beat a team that lost to liverpool...You wan come beat the liverpool?
Please take your loss in peace

Innogee:
Pogba has a lot of stuff in him and I respect his passes

So what stopped him from displaying those passes you respect today or displaying those stuffs that you seem to believe he has that we are yet to see?
Its in games like this that we should see the stuff he is made of....but sadly we already know what he is...'A flash in a pan'

My belle ohhh

I smell 90+ penalty for VARchester United