This statement is untrue. Scriptures simply say that God remembers 1000 years the way we remember a day. It's focusing on God's unforgetfulness. You are using the scripture wrongly, my friend. I hope you get it.
If you follow the context of the text, you'll see it.
MaxInDHouse: A day in God's timing is 1,000 years {2Peter 3:8} unlike humans that a day is 24 hours so Adam died in less than one day from God's standpoint:
He lived 930 years {Genesis 5:5} and no human lived up to one day since then!
In many religion and traditions, getting married and having kids is one of the only purpose of life. Not having a child is like a curse. But Christ has shown that childbearing does not connect to godly purpose. One can serve life purpose whether or not they reproduce. God is more concerned about our hearts than our ability to reproduce.
Think about this: according to the bible, Adam and Eve did not procreate until after they sinned. Why was this so? would they have procreated had they not sinned?
To add to this, Jesus revealed that when humans resurrected or put off this body of sin, there won't be marriage anymore and they won't give birth -- those things would have passed with the world of sin.
From this, we can see that marriage and procreation will be said to be something that started when man sinned and will end when the man of sin is destroyed.
In this Youtube video, our brothers took a scriptural dive to explain why childbirth will only exist when sin exists and will sin when sin ceases. kindly watch and share
OK, please keep your belief and hold fast to it. I do not intend, neither am I interested in changing your belief.
budaatum: When I die, my dead body will be put in the ground 6ft deep where worms will eat my carcase and I wouldn't even know about it.
As for seeking the truth, I don't need to make crap up and believe it when the text is very clear and my eyes are open enough to see that the Adam created from mud was not created on the same day the image of God was created, and that they were not given the same instruction nor the same food to eat.
What amazes me is that it is not obvious to believers. But that, I guess, is what believing is all about. It does not involve asking and knocking and seeking with one's own heart and soul and mind and being, but believing what one is told to believe.
As for changing anyone, just know I am aware that some seeds will fall by the wayside, and the birds will devour them. And some will fall on stony places where they will not have much earth and will be scorched by the sun. And some will fall among thorns, which will choke them. But some fall on good ground and yield a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
Those who have ears to hear and eyes to look and see for themselves, will hear and see while here living on this earth, and would not wait till they are dead.
Oh no! I really cannot change you and I'm not even trying. You can be whatever you want to be, my friend. That's fine with me. Let every man hold fast that which he believes, and when he dies, he shall see if he was wrong or right.
It's your responsibility to seek the truth, as is mine. I'd you think you know the truth, please hold fast to it. When you die, it'll be revealed to you whether you found the way or you were just delusional, and the same applies to me.
budaatum: Actually I think the writers of the story had separate intentions, one for themselves and the other for the outsiders who read their book. The first creation story is for them, while the second is for those they enslaved.
The origin of both myths are not even Israelites, and existed long before Abraham, and were used by Egyptians to enslave long before Yahweh was a thing. They too believed they were created in the superior image of their gods, while their slaves were created from inferior mud.
But that might be taking you way far out of your realm, I guess, especially since you think you can change me, at which I can only laugh.
Just know that one must have more knowledge than those whom one wants to enslave. It worked for those who enslaved us, and it continues to work in the creation of almanjeris, who are enslaved in our northern Nigeria.
You can not rule the earth and subdue and multiply and be blessed if you refuse to nourish yourself with fruits of knowledge. Some who ate fruits of knowledge sang Rule Britannia before they got on ships to go rule the earth and subdue and multiply, and were obviously blessed. In their hay day, the sun never set on their empire. And those who didn't know a tree produced fruits of knowledge were their slaves who produced for their blessed masters.
So, I would imagine that you think God has two separate wills - one for Adam and one for the other man you mentioned. That's fine.
I can understand why you think that way and I really do not want to try to change it.
budaatum: I accepted your reminder, and got to "the tree is sex organ", and can only say you are making stuff up.
Those God told to multiply will and must, procreate! So saying it was not God's agenda can only apply to Adam who was created from mud, and not to God's Image. God never told those he created in his Image not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, so I guess he's telling his Image to go have sex, since he also told them to multiply too, but banned sex for Adam who was told to not eat for in the day that he does eat he will die.
The mistake made by many is in assuming Adam, who was created from mud after God had rested on the sabbath, is the same as the humans God is written to have created in his image on day 6. You then have to do some wuruwuru gymnastics to make the instruction given to them separately seem like instructions given to them together, despite the obvious differences.
British people were also sold this belief that they were Adam, by Rome, and they believed it for like 1500 years. But when their eyes finally opened, they ruled and subdued so much that the sun never set on their empire, and still doesn't, if you consider their empire to be where thier language is currently spoken instead of land they directly rule.
Nigeria will do greater things than they did, when we finally open our eyes and see what we read with our own eyes instead of just believing what we are told.
Sorry, but you can't get any more of my time watching than this.
If you stopped watching then you’d never get a whole picture of the point I was making. I appreciate that you even tried but I’ll encourage you to watch the whole video, you’ll see it’ll make more sense and you’d be able to form a better argument against my point.
So far, your point don’t stand against mine because I’ve already discussed your point in the video. Kindly watch to the end, please.
budaatum: I stopped when you got to the tree of knowledge. And I appreciate the mind you bring to this.
First, God did not tell those he created in his image not to eat the fruits of the tree of knowledge of good and evil or they will die if they did. God is specifically written to have said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food".
As for the serpent, I appreciate you understanding that it was Eve using her mind to question what she was told, unlike Adam who was content to do as he was told. I in fact call Eve the second scientist, because after God, she was the second to use her mind to hover over her environment and question what she found.
Got to go hospital now. Might watch the rest if they make me wait.
Thank you..... I made a video explaining a lot of these things and especially as regards tree of knowledge of good and evil, procreation and so much more.
budaatum: Taught by God to tend a tiny garden naked, as opposed to rule the earth and subdue and multiply and be blessed? Not very knowledgeable, I rare say.
They called it the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so what else could it possibly be?
The text even goes on to emphasis its effect on those who ate it:
And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Or would you argue that ignorant people who have not nourished themselves with knowledge can be wise, even if you don't want to agree that it is knowledge that opens eyes?
God creates and God destroys. He forms light and creates darkness.
He is responsible for both.
It is the Christians that have a separate God for Good and another for evil. It was never so from the beginning. The Jews are strict monotheist. The Christians are not.
sonmvayina: I mean everything is dual to us but singular to God. When we see light and darkness....God sees them as the same. When we see destruction and creation....to God they both mean same thing..
sonmvayina: The fruit of the tree open their eyes to the principles of duality. Everything in life exists in pairs. Hot and cold Up and down Beautiful and ugly Tall and short. Good and bad. Birth and death. Etc. The most interesting part is that they are all from same source. While to God it is a singular, to us it is a duality. The God who creates is the same God who destroys..Nothing happens without his OK.
Our brothers discussed Genesis and arrived at the topic of the conversation between Eve and the serpent and why Adam was not involved in the discussion. He has quite an interesting take. Kindly watch on youtube and share. https://youtube.com/shorts/cRmZ864JHQY?feature=share
Like I said, it's a free world and you can believe whatever you like. If you think you know, that's also acceptable by me. I seek not to convince you of anything
budaatum: Believe? That's like making crap up and claiming its true despite evidence to the contrary.
buda does not do believe.
Those who brought us Christianity sang songs about Britannia ruling before they got on the ship to fulfil their supposed God given mandate to rule the earth and subdue those they met, and multiply and be blessed.
They knew, or rather, finally figured out, after being subjugated as mud to work in a garden for Rome - the first to understand the difference between being created in God's image and being created from mud - that they too can assume to be created in God's image. All they had to do was eat fruits of knowledge, which they duly did, and which is what enabled them to rule and subdue those they met.
It took Britain almost 1500 years for their eyes to open, and thankfully, with this age of the internet its likely to take us much less, like 100 years.
We will eat fruits of knowledge like the Image of the Gods do, and then shall we too become like Gods, such that when we say "let there be", we shall not cry NEPA! Because there most definitely will be. Amen.
We just need to allow ourselves to become as children who abandon the crap we've been programmed to believe (which is not knowing), and let Christ rub mud in our eyes so we may see. But that's no easy feat, for as Christ said, camels through needles eye, which explains the resistance of those like you who currently refuse to see the difference between Image of God that rules and subdues and multiplies and is blessed, and a naked creation from mud that slaves ignorantly in a poxy tiny garden.
Since you think the tree knowledge of good and evil is politics, I thought to share this video with you to show you what the tree is. Hopefully, you'll see reason to revisit your belief.
MaxInDHouse: Knowledge of GOOD and EVIL is POLITICS that was raised in the garden leading Adam and Eve to support Satan and turn against God. God intended they multiply through reproductive means which is sex. There decision to become like God means preparedness to abandon God's standards and setting their own for their yet unborn children.
There's been widespread bias about the tree of knowledge of good and evil and especially because it's one of the most hidden parts of the scripture.
This has lead to people coming up with different theories and philosophies about what it could be. Some think that it's actual knowledge, implying that the Adams were ignorant, a belief which is unlikely as Adam was taught by God, meaning he'll be the most intelligent of the human race.
So in this video, our brothers shed more light on the tree and reveals what it actually it and as regards it being the tree of extremes even though moderacy is godliness. This means the experience (eating) of extremes provided by the trees was ungodliness.
Anyone can believe whatever they like. If this is what you believe, i can understand and I respect it. I don't want to try to convince you. Thank you.
budaatum: A woman can't help herself, yet she helped free Adam from ignorant naked slavery to become self employed so they can both populate the earth.
Someday, the world will understand the role of women in nurturing you men.
This is a rather intellectually inconsistent claim Sir, you can't compare your grand father and all that to what we're saying because there's an actual natural link from them to you.
That's not the case for this supposed humans that you claim God created. Unlike your great grand father, these supposed human you claim existed before Adam have no natural links to anyone in the world. At least not in this present world.
Also, what happened to these people, are they still present here or what happened to them? Have they also evolved to become like us.
You really cannot give any factual reason for any of these questions because these people do not exists anywhere else except in your understanding of biblical text.
I think your whole idea is bluff and I don't take it seriously, can we talk about it when you have any fact to it other than quoting Genesis and explaining it your way?
budaatum: Same way I can tell that my father's great grandfather's great grandfather existed even though I can't mention him as a known person.
But this is not so rocket science, despite the fact that it is hard as a camel entering the eye of a needle. You just have to become as a child and let Christ open your eyes so you can read it yourself and see instead of simply believing what you have been told and which millions around you believe.
Fact is, according to Genesis, God created some humans in God's image on day 6 and told them to "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground", and God gave them "every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. And God saw his work was good, and God rested on the seventh day".
After the seventh day that God had finished resting, God saw on the eight day that "no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground". "Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being". That man, who was later referred to as Adam, "The Lord God took and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it". And his food was "any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die”, which is not what the Image of God was told to eat, and who's eating would not result in death.
Eating fruits of knowledge would be a requirement for "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground", and not so necessary for a naked ignorant gardener, I'd suggest. But better still is the observational fact that nations who's citizens feed on knowledge (Europe, USA, China, Russia, India, Israel, etc), tend to fair better than countries where their citizens believe fruits of knowledge are poisonous and will lead to death.
But do not take my word for it please. Just go check the average life expectancy of the listed nations and compare them to Nigeria to see who lives longer on earth.
Start your day with this knowledge - God didn't institute procreation. We're not doing the will of God when we procreate, We're simply doing the will of Adam (man).
I didn't say God was against it. I simply said that it wasn't God's original purpose for life and when God's purpose is achieved on earth, procreation will cease to exist.
God told Abraham that his seed his children will be as many as the stars because those children will be born by God. Those children are not those born by procreation but those born by the will of God as we see in John 1:13.
Truvelisback: I don't know why you keep argueing the obvious. The Bible says: Be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth. What part of it do you not understand? If God was against procreation as you claimed, why did He promise Abraham that his seeds(children) would be as the sand of the sea? Why did God tell him that his children would be as many as the stars in the sky?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Adam Die In The Same Day As God Said? (part 1) by oridavid(op): 11:43am On Sep 12, 2025
