₦airaland Forum

maklelemakukula:
Naija' highest hit-maker in d last one year... Too bad u no b afonja so no recognition for you.

I am an IBO man but never like miscreants trying to debase other tribe.my dear,u are useless

DieBuhari:
We lead, Yorubas follow.

I no u are an orphan.am sorry

This helpless man want to treat Nnamdi KANU the way Awolowo,the wiser treated the Oxford Historian decades ago.IPOB ,fall into this trap to ur peril.Remember this is the son of a betrayer!!!

tete7000:
There is nothing transpiring than share rebellion. A people who took a vow of obedience desecrated their vow, went on the air and plunge the church into the mud in front of the public. Read this, I stumbled upon it somewhere:


Some of us don't really understand this Ahiara diocese crisis. Some of us don't even know how a bishop is selected in the catholic church. But I have seen lately that so many social media warriors are busy throwing punches to the church without studying the background of the matter. It is even embarrassing to see governor and local chiefs trying to plead to some of these priests to obey the pope and follow his advice and move on.
Since it is already a public debate, for the sake of clarity and the benefit of those that really want to understand the problem, I will throw a little light on this issue. This is my space...if you must contribute "Be civil"
In the catholic church, the second Vatican council (1962–1965), declared that the right of nominating and appointing bishops belongs per se exclusively to the competent ecclesiastical authority.
Ordinarily if all things been equal, a Bishop is required to submit his resignation letter when he turns 75 years of age, he can submit it before then but it is the duty of the Vatican to approve of it. If the resignation is accepted with immediate effect, the episcopal see becomes vacant on publication of the pope's decision. However, Vacancy of a see may occur also because of a bishop's transfer to another see or position, or because of his death. In the case of a nunc pro tunc acceptance, the see does not become vacant immediately, but the process that leads to the appointment of a successor begins without delay.
One important element in selecting a bishop is the list of priests, of both the diocesan and the religious clergy, that the bishops of the ecclesiastical province or the whole Episcopal Conference judge to be suitable generically (without reference to any particular see) for appointment as bishops. They are required to draw up this list at least once every three years, so that it is always recent.
When it comes to a concrete appointment for a particular see, the papal representative (apostolic nuncio or delegate) asks either the outgoing bishop, or in case of a sede vacante, the vicar general or diocesan administrator, to draw up a report on its situation and the needs. That person will be the bishop who has presented his resignation or, if the see is vacant, the diocesan administrator or apostolic administrator. The papal representative is also obliged to consult the metropolitan archbishop and the other bishops of the province, the president of the bishops’ conference, and at least some members of the college of consultors and the cathedral chapter. He may also consult others, whether clergy, diocesan or religious, and "lay persons of outstanding wisdom
Canon law insists on enabling those consulted to provide information and express their views confidentially, requiring that they be consulted "individually and in secret"
The nuncio then decides on a short list, or terna, of three candidates for further investigation and seeks precise information on each of them. Since if it were widely known that a priest who was not the one who was finally chosen for the post had been under consideration, people might think he had been excluded because of some fault found in him (a groundless conclusion, since all those examined may be eminently worthy and suitable, but only one can be selected), the nuncio will ask those consulted about individual candidates to observe the strictest confidentiality on the fact of the consultation. He will then send to the Holy See a list (known as a "terna" of the (usually) three candidates that seem to be the most appropriate for consideration, together with all the information that has been gathered on them and accompanying the information with the conclusions that he himself draws from the evidence.
The qualities that a candidate must have are listed in canon 378 §1. As well as being at least 35 years old and a priest for at least 5 years, he should be "outstanding in strong faith, good morals, piety, zeal for souls, wisdom, prudence and human virtues", and should possess the other qualities needed for fulfilling the office in question; and he should be well versed in sacred Scripture, theology and canon law and, preferably, hold a doctorate in one of these fields. There is no where it is stated that the bishop must come from among the priest of that diocese let alone from the same ethnolects or tribe.
The congregation of the Roman Curia responsible for the appointment (one of the four indicated above) studies the documentation provided by the nuncio, taking into consideration his opinion, but not necessarily accepting it. It might even reject all the candidates he has proposed and ask him to prepare another list, or it might ask him to provide more information on one or more of the priests who have already been presented. When the Congregation decides on which priest should be appointed, it presents its conclusions to the pope, asking him to make the appointment. If he agrees, the papal act is communicated to the nuncio for him to obtain the consent of the priest to his appointment and to choose a date for its publication. The newly appointed bishop is obliged to get episcopal consecration within three months of the arrival the papal bull of his appointment, which is usually prepared only at least a month after the publication. If the consecration takes place within the diocese, he takes charge immediately. If it occurs elsewhere, a separate act is required, after the consecration, for taking possession of his new post.
Bringing the process to a conclusion obviously requires much time, usually taking at least nine months, and it may on occasions take up to two years.
The procedure described above is the normal one for the appointment of a diocesan bishop.
So in the case of Ahiara Diocese, It happened that the late Bishop Victor Adibe Chikwe who served as the first bishop of the Roman Catholic Diocese of Ahiara from his appointment on November 18, 1987, until his death on September 16, 2010, fulfilled this obligation and submitted names of potential candidates for bishop all the time he was alive as stipulated by the church law. When he died in September 16, 2010, the episcopal see of Ahiara diocese becomes vacant after the publication of the pope Benedicts's decision.
The apostolic nuncio and papal delegate started their consultation in line with the guidelines stipulated in the Canon law. During the secret consultation, all the indigenous priests of Ahiara diocese that was in the list that was provided by the bishop were heavily criticized and rejected by different factions of the Ahiara indigenous priests. Since this is a secret meeting. it becomes so crucial that none of the qualified nominees got acceptance or rather endorsement from mainly their local priests
To the Papal nuncio, it appears that there was different factions or cliques among these priests. He also observed that these priests have started unnecessary negatives politics with things of God. In his report, he noted that it was impossible to get a priest from the list. The episcopal see remained vacant for some time because of these internal struggles among Ahiara Diocesan priests and they were unable to agree on a particular "Mbaise indigenous priest" to be elected as bishop of their diocese.
Looking at the sensitive nature of this problem, the Apostolic nuncio and the Vatican started looking for a way forward. After due Consultation with the bishop conference in Nigeria. The catholic bishops advised the Vatican to appoint a neutral person for the diocese to avoid crisis. It is in view of this that the Vatican selected another qualified bishop candidate who happen to be an igbo person as well and appointed him to occupy the seat of the episcopal see of Ahiara diocese. "All hell let loose"
Mind you, the intention of the Vatican was to bring a neutral person to the diocese who will help to solve this problem and harmonize these factions and negative politics going on among those priest. Little did they know that some of the Ahiara catholic priests will resort to ethnic bigotism , ethnolect and dialectical prejudice and discrimination among their fellow Igbo. The Papal delegates had previously thought that all these people are of Igbo extraction and no such ethnic bigotry of this nature will ever be surfaced. But here we are. Bishop Okpalaeke is an igbo man from Anambra State. Mbaise is in Imo State. All of us are brothers. people from Mbaise intermarry with Anambra people and they speak and understand each other.
But the same few arrogant priests that rejected their own indigenous appointed priests that was listed as qualified candidates and started another agitation after Bishop Okpalaeke's appointment.
One of their argument was that, they have produced so many priests and thus have qualified indigenous priests that should be given a bishop. As you have seen above, there is nowhere in the church law that gave them that right to select a bishop from their ethnic affiliations. The criteria for selecting a bishop is not based on how many priest you have produced in your diocese. The right of nominating and appointing bishops belongs per se exclusively to the competent ecclesiastical authority which is the Holy see. There is no law that forbid the pope in selecting bishop from china or Europe for them. The current papal nuncio in Ireland now is an igbo man.
Secondly, they argued that the appointed Igbo bishop cannot speak their Igbo dialects or understand their culture. This is funny. First of all, Igbo catholic community have had European bishops in that eastern part of Nigeria before and those bishop survived very well let alone an Igbo man. Remember Bishop Shanahan is not an Igbo man but he was a bishop in Igbo land and he did wonderful things. The canon law however did not give such provision of language similarity as impediment for selecting a bishop. Language is never considered.
Thirdly, they argued that the list provided by their late bishop was not followed. As you may recall, the same people rejected all the priest. they were busy writing petition upon petition backstabbing all the candidate selected. The church is wise and may not like to bring more problem by appointing from the list to avoid agitation.
For me, it seems some of these priests have secret agenda or want to bring down this diocese. The parishoners should not follow this part with them. This is becoming an embarrassment to the church. How can Rochas Okorocha of all people come to preach peace to priests. It is bad.
Unfortunately, we have seen that some of these priests have started playing to the emotions of innocent parishioners and fanning the flames of ethinicism, bigotry and discrimination. Planting seed of hatred among the Igbos. What are they preaching in the pulpit.... It is shameful to see men of God play politic with the laity to this level. I saw some horrible graphic images and even some carried empty coffin to protest with omu leaves on their mouth. Some priest were in their company. What a shame.
You must know that catholic church is hierarchical and it is not democratic and It's shameful when you read some people say when an Anambra Bishop speaks, Mbaise people won't hear him as if he will be speaking Hausa or Yoruba. And I ask, so Igbo is not one? And we are talking about Biafra And I have read from some people defending this horrible act of rebellion? The person made a Bishop is not a Fulani man. This is not a Kanuri man . This is not a Tiv. And you are defending this?
It is immoral, offensive and sickening. Archbishop Kaigma has argued it all, if Onye lgbo cannot accept Onye Igbo, who on earth will he accept? A Fulani man
We must understand this background before pitching our tent. This is 7 years after the death of bishop Chikwe. The church has tried all possible ways to solve this problem but some of these priests are bent on deceiving some people. This display of stubbornness and disobedience has led the pope to demand their renewal of obedience to the Apostolic see. So, don’t join those who want to copy from the book of Martin Luther the estrange European priest who spearheaded the separation of the protestant and English church in the 16th century for mere arrogance and ulterior motives.

Pls sir,can I have ur contact?

adonis89:
Most ppl commenting here are yorubas. I just wanna ask , watz d fuss with yoruba and Biafra? Let's agree d crowd were not rented , u think should a referendum hold today , an average igbo man from Imo will support nigeria. Some may not b Ipob but many igbos av encountered have soft spot for Biafra even d ones from Imo. D ugly demola ajayis from yoruba land should mind their business . Kanu will still pull more crowd if he goes to imo. Hate it love it.

Thank you my brother for your language "average". But KANU and Okorocha are not match in anyway and if Biafra is to be Actualized today, it is still this political office holders and Igbo Billionaires that will decide how it goes and not miscreants. Am am Mbaise man,among those that can never support Biafra though I never like Rochas anyway not as Governor but first time he contested for the post of president.but then Rocha's is a great man and am not envying him.

nototribalist:
All Northerners should disassociate from Allah first

You are a complete animal !!!.Allah is God in Arabic language and not what you meant.I am an Igbo man and will remain in Nigeria cos it won't be better the other side

life has distilled me to synical and I have developed social conscience.Am always saddened the way our leaders reasons and the way their followers are following them.Am telling us today that in due time we shall reap what we sow and am afraid,it might difficult to swallow

imstrong1:
It sad the northern elders are keeping mute and not doing enough to help the situation it is clear there is already division along ethnic and religious lines

Onye amamizu,when KANU was ranting how many Igbo leaders cautioned him? Pls let's be fair in our judgement

CROWNWEALTH019:
Its a painful one and I pray God grant his soul eternal rest



A warning to buhari, no matter how many billions he is going to spend and he has spent he's going to taste hell


Aminat508 where midolian?

And also to u,better repent so u can be a light to ur family knowing what ur linage has pass through

Philpham:
I wish everyone long life and good health but this Buhari has led to the death of so many Nigerians from the 1980's up till now. So his time has come. The sad end to the life of a heartless tyrant. Babangida will follow suit. Evil men.

But this men going by ur family history are very very old are the world will not be surprise if they dies and so?

I love this ooooh.let all the human and the spirit activities do the needful now by arresting this woman or none of them nor women should react in case the otherwise happen in the next few hours oooh

For this memo,I will sleep well tonight. I thought my Ndigbo are sleep allowing this hooligan to manipulate the heart and mind of my Igbo race.Thank you APGA.I no more obstacle are coming for The hopeless pawpaw,butterfly thought itself a bird

SalamRushdie:
Just close your eyes and imagine if Jonathan had ever addressed the Nation in Ijaw dialect , please just Imagine the uproar ,just imagine the uproar.

Does Ijaw people have voting strength? Is Buhari the Nigerian president as of today? He cannot command anything without logging in cos he loggeds out for Oshibanjo to reign

SalamRushdie:
Just close your eyes and imagine if Jonathan had ever addressed the Nation in Ijaw dialect , please just Imagine the uproar ,just imagine the uproar.

Does Ijaw people have voting strength? Is Buhari the Nigerian president as of today? He cannot command anything without logging in cos he logged out for Oshibanjo to reign

CROWNWEALTH019:
That dead ani mal again?

But I learnt u are an ophan

What I want Nnamdi KANU to do is to cleanse the ibo youth and reorient them to things of moral.And showcase his blue print of his Dream Biafra otherwise we are already doomed with negative currents.Ooh release him for u so u can take him to the same TB Joshua who have not rescued ur failed bizness while the family remain in pains?ndi Igbo,kanji gwanwotu ni

dessz:
this is getting serious, she needs to marry or better still be a baby mam_

But most of ur relations are single!!!

keypad1:
That place would have been used as rest rooms where men will fvck ladies to their fullest and both parties will be happy.

True talk

Am quite sure lost that day.....pls try and find ur way back to that place

PapaNnamdi:
Dem tell her for our church say one of her enemies don tie her life, say she will not see husband,

Dats why the fish smell is pursuing all the men,


She will soon be deivered

To be frank u no dey again but try and take that herbs according to the native Doctor prescription

keypad1:
Good for her. An ex that trained her in school, spent money to take care of her that she abandoned after her graduation has been avenged,

moral; dont dont you can play a nigga chop his money and render him useless by going for another man after he hussled for you,

Who told u this and what's good for her?My dear we are all sinners, we are alive due to Gods mercy

Tolexander:
Return home as what?

Umar Musa Yaradua also returned home o!

Buhari is a father who traveled to UK and will come home like ur father or mother or relations

hebenezher:
oh GOD! What are you saying Mr man!? Do you listen to foreign musics? raps in particular, the likes of lil Wayne, 2pac, big notorious, and so. falz made that useless statement because he never once experience what they call "hardship." The dunce completed his studies in one of the best universities in the states. what does he know?
What do you have to say our politicians, if such sh*t is said about yahoo boys? don't quote me wrong, I'm not in support of fraudulent, I'm only trying to give a better view of what could have led/prompt to that act. make falz face im business, he had lost the respect I had for him with this gibberish he uttered!

Another complete hooligan talking..... idiot,Enand

[quote author=jeflexy post=57765211]Falz is stupid... And it's a pity i used to like him and i still do...

I apologize on behalf of falz for he knows not what he was saying...





God bless every Igbo dollar earners like Evans and enlarge the coast of every afonja scammer like Tinubu..


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Cursed tribes, it shall never be well with them...


Complete Animal

Fresca:
Lol mercy sef is jobless... busy replying the girl anyhow. Giving them too much opportunity to talk rubbish.

I doubt if you are better.who is rubbish here,u or Aigbe or the girl?pls be reasonable

As an Ibo man,this KANU is not my leader.of course he is a theatre Artist and must have some fans.Soonest this man will exist no more

TundeHashim:
that should be a virtue to the likes of Evans Coz I'm certain he's no Fulani!

Am an IBO man man but I cherish u.ur reply is wonderful

nell4:
who are those generating the highest revenue there. ode
is the ewa goin people.check the statistics 60% are igbos and the own
most of the business there. if they leave , the GDP will drop drastically. that is why Nigeria is fighting tooth and nail to keep them. kiss the truth. guy please buy sense

Pls my dear,even if the Igbo's are generating all the money it is cos they were given the opportunity to operate freely in the whole country. By the time they will go back to there small space,the level of their proggress will be limited

IgboticGirl:
dont mind those tribalist



is only in igbo land will not see people shouting leave our land bla bla bla

Ndi Igbo ha kwere like.onwere onye mba ozu by commissioner, adviser,house of Assembly or representative na ala Igbo?mana ndi Igbo nwere ohere ndia na obodo ndiozo.taaa,Igbo nwere nsogbu

The great Igbo race is in shame....chaiii,I pity my people to have fallen so low to worship one petty boy.And for this boy to allow bowing for him and this type vain praises,his days are numbered

Bekimbo:
Keep fooling yourself

Pig.am an Igbo man but will never support this hatred coming from my race and we are not really prepared for war.Fulani's are everywhere destroying and killing even before ur nose while we are there singing hate songs all over the place.can u match Fulani's today in ur community invade wat broke out?

zombieHUNTER:
The problem is not the killer herdsmen
But Biafra and biafrans

To be frank you are on point.The Tension created by Biafrans and their hate for Buhari is culpable of causing Civil War.The Hausa/Fulani's are made to feel inferior. Igbos should see the other side of the divid

CHIJIOKE1314:
Bubu is no more, go and rest…..

Aisha is mine forever!
By the time I'm done with Ashatu is za oza room she will regret all Bubu's smelling mouth and body odor she has to endure for many years.

As for Nigeria, we have just pushed the gear 5 in reverse. Enjoy your poverty!

Mugu man!!!! U are a dreamer.most of that wish him dead come from from already dead homes of no do wells