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homesteady:
Lmaooooo! Isn't it quite stupiid and funny how you have normalized some conditions like Hydrocephalus and other congenital abnormalities and yet you claim that Ameloblastomas and other dental related surgeries are uncommon?
Road accidents happens on a daily basis in Nigeria, and a great percentage of those affected always have some maxillofacial problems which are corrected by Dentists.

You were to dumb to catch my drift. Let me just clearly spell it out to you - Are there more neurological patients than "Optometrist" patients?

Boy u r a dunce. How many people refer to u guys. My friend shut up. U r shouting ameloblastomas, how many are they. Most Specialties refer to neurologists. My friend u r a dreamer. U can't in ur right mind compare optometry px inflow with that of dentistry. Who visits a dentist. Who refers to you get guys. Most referral from endocrinologists is to neurologists. My friend go and find work if u hv nothing to say. We are talking about px inflow and u r calling dentistry

homesteady:
Lmaooooo! So this original deluded clown is still grasping at straws, by repeating the same gibberish all over.

Are you seriously still on the issue of job placement for Dental Doctors? Are you this unfortunate? Didn't I give you a proper statistics of the ratio of Dental graduates to Dental clinics? Or are you arguing with statistics? I know illogical reasoning is your Forte, but C'mon....

I don't have much time to say much, but let me just say this. Have you ever seen anyone that had a neurosurgical operation? I won't be surprised if you haven't seen, even if you have seen, at most 3. Using your analogy, Neurosurgeons are paupers.

You moronic slowpoke so u r now comparing neurology with dentistry. Are you sure you are OK. Just last month a lady with persistent headache was sent for CT scan only to discover she had a cerebral Adenoma. We have referred nothing less than 10 cases of pseudo tumor Celebri to neurologists. Higher Centre related photopsic episodes are routinely referred and these are common. What of seizures, epilepsy and other related neurological disturbances which are extremely common, neurosyphilis etc. Ophthalmology and optometry clinics do most of their referrals to neuros. What of hydrocephalus and other pediatric cases like congenital and developmental neurological syndromes which are very common. Extremely common diseases like diabetes and hypertension have neuropathic presentations. Cerebrovascular accidents are common. Other specialties also refer to them. Endocrinology, pediatric, rheumatologist etc. Neurology is the specialty of specialties. So don't speak nonsense here. It shows you are ignorant if you don't know that neurological problems are very common, and represent the specialty most associated with other specialties as many diseases at one stage or the other will assume a neurological presentation. It is an insult to compare dentistry to neurology in lucrativeness. The eye clinic has never referred anyone to a dentist. Neurology has an awesome patient load base. So please get over yourself.
When we take case history we usually ask for last dental examination date. Most patient's response is never. I wonder where your money will come from since pxs rarely visit dental clinic. I am sure u are arguing from the safety of the fact that u r still a student. U will soon face the real world.

Mandeyy:
U must be d greatest liar on earth next to d APC! u think i don't know u're lying. We have over 40 hospitals accredited for dental residency in Nigeria, and they advertise every year. Enough of stupid lies! I'm done with u. Besides, few dentists are produced every year. Look for anoda lie. U don't need to lie to prove a point. Does even a dentist need a senator to secure residency placement? U're being childish. Envy is ur problem.

U r a nincompoop. Wait, u r trying to say u don't need connection to get residency placement in dentistry. U r not a liar, u r just a gigantic fool. Now I know that u r uber-stupid and delusional. So once u pass ur primaries in dentistry, u automatically have a placement. U r in for a big ride. Whoever is feeding u dis thrash is d devil himself. U guys that take most times a maximum of, 2 residents in a specialty. How many specialties do u hv. My friend go and sit down. Who do u think you are talking to. In few yrs time this ur nonsense reasoning will clear from ur eyes. I know dentists that hv been frustrated by failure to get residency placement even after passing their primaries. U think residency is house job? I hv one who has the phone number of over 15 hmb chairmen. Yet nothing. You r coming here to launder ur image with lies. U r in for a rude shock if u really believe this ur nonsense. Dentists that pre-residency are the most frustrated group of health care professionals. Most of them later go for masters in anatomy and physiology and become lecturers. Don't say nonsense here o. There is a limit to the gullibility of people.
For Christ sake what is their to envy in dentistry. You guys don't measure up to optometry in revenue. What is it a about dentistry to be envied. How much are u paid in residency. How much does a junior resident receive 200- 250k? What an optometrist can make in a week Outreach or from few verilux prescriptions. What is dentistry's advantage that u talk of envy. Dentistry is not even competitive, so where is ur envy coming from. U r d envious ones who likes relegating other professions on social media telling spurious falsehood to small children who do not understand the real thing. Jump up and down, dentistry is not lucrative.

Mandeyy:
@ Originbm, no resident doctor works in anoda hospital while doing residency. U're totally ignorant of d system, yet u claim u know something about it. D resident (be it a dentist or a medical doctor) doesn't work in anoda hospital while doing residency. Besides, they can take care of themselves with their salaries. Also, d resident doctor must live in that hospital. Haba! This will be d last i'll reply to ur comments cos i hate lies and blind arguments.

Oga are u stupid or can't you read. I have been handling you with kid gloves. What do u know about the health care. Do u know the meaning of doing ur residency supra. It means u r not paid by the government. Some companies sponsor some medical doctors' residency. Stop portraying your ignorance here. A doctor in a lucrative specialty can run pp while in residency. Or you don't know that some medical doctors run their residency without any payment from federal government. Don't quote me if u don't understand my point. My point is Dat dentistry is too poor that a dentist cannot run a supra because their is no way of making money outside their salary. Oga understand before typing. You are telling me thrash, don't u know that residents run locum... What are u even talking about?

[quote author=Mandeyy post=64618401][/quote]Are you serious. Don't say what you don't know oga. I have a friend who could not get a placement even with a letter of introduction from two senators. Stop saying what u don't know . Many dentists have passed their primaries with letters of recommendation, enough to fill one echolac box, yet no placement. What is primaries. Why did college increase the expiry date for primaries not long ago. Placement is worse for dentistry. Medicine has much more areas of specialization. And medical gp is a money spinner in its own right.

Mandeyy:
Working less doesn't mean he's not working smart and contributing his best. Every subspecialty in Dentistry is relevant. Just see d lie "they are never on call". U forget that there are dental emergencies too, and there are dental wards too where dental and general nurses work. Then in the Accident and Emergency ward, a maxillofacial surgeon or a resident in maxillofacial surgery will be on call for facial trauma. Then, as a resident in oral medicine, you'll rotate through internal medicine and other relevant medical specialties during which time he/she may be on call. What of a dental resident in oral and maxillofacial surgery who will rotate through otorhinolargology, opthalmology, plastic surgery, neurosurgery and internal medicine during which he may be on call in those depts? What of a resident in oral pathology who will rotate through general pathology and internal medicine during which time he may be on call.

I still maintain that dentistry is lucrative in Nigeria. A nairalander once said here that he least expected that he would remove three teeth in Ilorin for N92,000, although two of them were impacted and a facial nerve passed through them, which if not properly done could lead to paralysis of facial muscles which it supplies. Apart from that, he paid N15,000 and N5,000 for X-ray and consultation respectively before the surgical extraction. He said that he visited about 15 private dental clinics in Ilorin and they were all busy. He therefore advised new dental graduates to partner in groups of two or three and set up dental clinics, that there's money in Dentistry in Nigeria. Also, I've lived in the core North. Dentistry is very lucrative in the North. Yet, surgical extraction is the least of dental procedures.

In Enugu and Onitsha, i've come across ameloblastoma patients with this huge tumor that covered almost their entire faces; some were growing into the mouth and into the airways. They had nobody to foot their bills, and if nothing is done by philanthropic Nigerians, they will die. Yet there are experts (oral and maxillofacial surgeons) here who can do it. Also in the villages, i've seen cases of this magnitude, coupled with cleft lip and palate, yet there're experts who can do it. Gold crowns are very expensive to wear but there are many Nigerians who wear it.

Toothache nowadays could be life threatening when left untreated, and it can progress to dental abscess which can spread to the brain or to the mediastinum and other vital organs and kill the person. These cases are normally seen in Nigeria, when a person leaves his/her toothache unattended to. Before u know it, it will spread to the tooth root, and then progress to cellulitis whereby the person's face will be swollen cos the microbial agent(s) causing the abscess, is/are spreading very fast.

Also note that it's not only Nigeria that does dental residency. It's the practice all over the world. Do u want to tell me u're wiser than they do? Pls be reasonable. I'm done with u.

Y don't you call your colleagues there and ask them whether they hv ever been on call in military hospital here. I am telling you what is open knowledge here. Their call duty is a political endowment. Again u mentioned sinusitis, and orbital cellulitis which may be legitimate sequel of untreated dental infection. It is not a unique feature of dentistry. An endophthalmitis can lead to orbital cellulitis and an uncorrected anisometropia can result in amblyopia ex an anopsia. A thing as simple as avitaminosis can lead to corneal ulceration, perforation or orbital decompression and enophthalmos. A simple iatrogenic wound could develop into a panophthalmitis and cellulitis. You yourself know that lucrativeness is a fxn of patient flow not disease severity. A disease may require 13hrs surgical input but if it doesn't come regularly, the specialty will only depend on govt subvention. It doesn't mean the specialty isn't important, it's just market dynamics.
Ameloblastomas, oral cancers, facial dystopias etc may be jewels in dentistry but they are occult specialties. They can't make dentistry lucrative.
Your guy who visited 15 busy dental clinics in Ilorin is a rarity. He has surpassed my imagination and created a new record.
Who is quarreling with ur residency. I asked if you could do it supra and make money through other means during the residency. You simply can't because dentistry is not a money spinner.

[quote author=Mandeyy post=64617486][/quote]You are just funny. Even ur colleagues boast that they work less than medicine and yet get paid more. they are never on call, nothing. This advantage in the public health sector is ur albatross in the private sector. In the private sector where input = output, u guys fail to measure up. We are insiders in this game. We can differentiate between spirits and ordinary masquerade. Dentistry is not the only profession whose service is subsidized by the federal government. Every service in a public hospital is under subsidy. That has nothing to do with the lucre of a profession. Dentistry is not lucrative. The environment is your friend. Look around my guy.

Mandeyy:
See d link of dr s.m. Balaji performing tongue cancer (oral squamous carcinoma of d tongue) surgery with radical neck dissection. D link is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPv6cAiaky0&itct=CAgQpDAYCCITCIDPoMus-tgCFU22VQod0aUNBTIHcmVsYXRIZEiW6ojex5nE42w%3D&hl=en-GB&gl=NG&client=mv-google

I don't understand why you are giving me a link to go and watch oral surgery if I can see it being performed regularly here. So after your graduation you start making money performing oral cancer surgeries left right and Centre. U r funny. In NARHY Yaba, even in bonny camp, dentistry is the least patronized department. Sometimes they close by 2p.m since there are no patients. I wonder if you understand the point here. From ur points, all ur prestige is tied to the fact that dentistry is under the same Council as medicine in some countries. American dentists earn almost the highest income of all dentists yet they are in a different association. They are strong enough to be a major force in American private sector. So don't give me thrash. In Nigeria dentistry is not lucrative. But the health care politics is keeping them afloat. If it's a lie run ur residency as a dentist supra, then come here and talk again let me see if hunger will not erase nobility from your head.

Mandeyy:
Just ignore Originbm. Dentistry is a noble profession. In Bangladesh, it's still one body - Bangladesh medical and dental council that regulates medicine and dentistry. It's still one body in Pakistan, all African countries, Saudia Arabia, Malaysia, kuwait, iraq, iran. It's in Europe and d US that there are separate bodies regulating d two professions. Even in bangladesh and pakistan, it's one body that regulates postgraduate medicine and dentistry - bangladesh & pakistan colleges of physicians & surgeons (bcps & pcps). After residency training, both are awarded fellow, college of physicians and surgeons (fcps), afterwhich d dentist or d medical doctor becomes a consultant. See d links of drs abdullah al masud & s.m. Balaji (d duo are dentists) performing tongue cancer surgery with radical neck dissection. D links are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMcQzHvCNRY https://mobile.facebook.com/draamasud?_rdc=1&_rdr

Funny thing about dental students is that when you mention lucrativeness they start talking surgery. All the link you are giving is showing that dentists perform surgery. Was that in contention? You are telling me that they become consultant blah blah blah.
Our question is whether dentistry is lucrative in Nigeria. You are always shouting consultant and residency as if every dentist will gain residency placement. What happens if you don't get placement for as long as 8years which is usually the case or not at all. What will a general dentist feed on. U speak as if there are no general dentists out there. U r touting procedures, how many procedures can a general dentist perform? You yourself know that dentistry is not lucrative yet you are yapping. How is the average non-consultant dentist in Nigeria faring. It is funny that when you try to compare dentistry with something like physiotherapy, you start asserting that dentistry is more lucrative. but when it becomes compared with medicine you guys start asking whether a profession should be all about money.
What u can't come here to do is to turn facts on its head by adducing points not in contention.
The question in view remains whether dentistry is lucrative, not whether they perform surgery. You know that in Nigeria it is not.

Cosmode:
See me see wahala oo
Pls We need English teacher to judge whose syntax is right or wrong, This guy is the real slowpoke.
Another Error:
"You are easily the worst writer I have seen on nairaland". U are the one that wrote this? hmmm I won't say much, is left for the public to judge u on this.

The guy writeup is 100% inspiring than urs, try and check his age, then u will realise u ve wasted ur days in university learning thrash. what a pity.

You oaf, this is what I said: You are easily the worst writer I have seen on nairaland... "
What are you trying to correct. An illiterate like you trying to correct my write - up? What do you know in English. I don't blame you. You have the facelessnes of nairaland to thank for covering up your intellectual ineptitude.

2. " The guy writeup is 100% inspiring than urs,..."
Look at your write-up... U can't even construct a good comparative. It should be "the guy's write up is MORE inspiring than urs..."
Speaking with you is an insult. You keeping yapping about age:how come at your age you can't express yourself adequately in English? You are to be pitied. How do I discuss healthcare politics with a person who does not know the meaning of concord or pungent. Go and hire a tutor. Stop disgracing your lineage here.

Cosmode:
hahaha Lolzzz. I know this where u will end the discussion. Is long av given u some lecture. His syntax and writeup cotch down ur stupid grammar. I even imagine if that writeup comes from a secondary school student, compare his writeup with urs and spot the different, cant u see urself. I know ppl like u will not bow for their junior ones

1st blunder
" Did u see what our educational system has become" can't u see u just make the worst blunder in this thread.

2nd
" I am ashamed that u r associated with science" chaiii if my junior sister write this for me, I will beat her up and sack her English teacher

3rd
"You are quoting medical terms to impress me" u mean he's quoting medical terms, with that simple terms. u are a disgrace to Ur fellow

Try and look into ur blunders, your writeup is not upto 3 compound sentence, yet u ve make more than 4 blunders, and u still av the gut to say someone syntax is wrong. U better learn from him.

plzz learn from the guy above ICCTY, he eventually turn u to a borzoi, and also indicate the type of disease u av. wawww, the guy is really awesome.
Did u even know know the meaning of "Pungent" u use in your sentence, does it fit in. U are the one to improve in ur syntax and not him.

That reminds me, every one in this thread now has a poor syntax, hahaha Oga u av no point again take a napkin and cover ur face.

1. " spot the different"
The correct expression is " spot the difference " Go and learn the difference between nominal and adjectival usages. Any ss1 student can teach you that.

2. " ... yet u ve make more than 4 blunders... "
The correct thing is : 'yet you have made more than 4 blunders...' Any primary school student can teach you present and past tense.

3. "... chaiii if my junior sister write this for me..."
The correct thing is "if my younger sister writes this for me..." Go and learn the rules of concord between nouns and verbs. I guess your junior sister should be flogging your teacher now.

4. "... Did u even know know the meaning of "Pungent" u use in your sentence,.. "
Where do I start from. What kind of school did you attend? I am ashamed of you. I don't expect an undergraduate to be this dumb.
U may be too stupid to understand the meaning of pungent, but everyone in your vicinity cannot be as stupid as you are. One of them must be intelligent enough to explicate the term and its metaphorical usage to you in kindergarten language which obviously might even be too complex for your befuddled and atrophic mind.
Bottom line: Go back to secondary school, you are not fit to be here.
It is difficult to talk with dunces, you know why? They don't even know when they are making fool of themselves.

Cosmode:
hahaha Lolzzz. I know this where u will end the discussion. Is long av given u some lecture. His syntax and writeup cotch down ur stupid grammar. I even imagine if that writeup comes from a secondary school student, compare his writeup with urs and spot the different, cant u see urself. I know ppl like u will not bow for their junior ones

1st blunder
" Did u see what our educational system has become" can't u see u just make the worst blunder in this thread.

2nd
" I am ashamed that u r associated with science" chaiii if my junior sister write this for me, I will beat her up and sack her English teacher

3rd
"You are quoting medical terms to impress me" u mean he's quoting medical terms, with that simple terms. u are a disgrace to Ur fellow

Try and look into ur blunders, your writeup is not upto 3 compound sentence, yet u ve make more than 4 blunders, and u still av the gut to say someone syntax is wrong. U better learn from him.

plzz learn from the guy above ICCTY, he eventually turn u to a borzoi, and also indicate the type of disease u av. wawww, the guy is really awesome.

Did u even know know the meaning of "Pungent" u use in your sentence, does it fit in. U are the one to improve in ur syntax and not him.

That reminds me, every one in this thread now has a poor syntax, hahaha Oga u av no point again take a napkin and cover ur face.

You are an idiot who cannot even string sentences together. You are again shamelessly spewing thrash. You fool if u don't know what pungent means use ur dictionary.
An imb.cile with the I.q of a guinea fowl who cannot engage in simple ratiocination. Look at your useless language usage... "did you know the meaning of pungent...". How did you even gain admission.
Look at your nonsense construction: "... u mean he's quoting medical terms, with that simple terms..." So you don't know that you should use the plural form of 'that' being 'those' in that sentence? You incorrigible dullard. Let me say it again to u since you are a sheepish block head: I am ashamed that you are associated with science. Please give ur correct version of my assertion. Nincompoop. Because your fellow delinquent was mentioning your name you brought out your empty skull to expose ur irremediable foolery.
This is what you reported I said:"Did u see what our educational system has become" You goat, do you have problem with your vision? Go back and read my post. I said:"Is this what our educational system has become?" You are obviously one of those who wrote their waec in a miracle Centre. You can neither speak nor write good English yet you want to argue. Dunce. I have spoken with intellectuals in the course of my foray in this forum. You don't qualify to comment here. I am sure you have no shame, cause if you had any shame u wouldn't come out again to disgrace your school and family on this forum. Ode. Thank God you are back let's see whether there is any improvement in your inane redaction.

ictty:
Ur cussed attitude will never buy u a frame rather it will keep showing how cuckoo ur brain is. From ur profile pics I can easily diagnose how borzoi u are, an ignoramus ppl like u lack little knowledge and yet u are never ready to learn, I imagine how poor u would have perform if assuming u are given medicine or dentistry.

When you are at my age, Am very sure u will still be in junior school by then, this is to show am very intelligent than you. The public already knows the truth stop ranching lies and stop confusing innocent ppl. I know u would av confused some innocent citizen that optometry is better than medicine, am assuring you today all the atrocities u ve caused them will surely boomerang one day. Keep up with it u hear. why am I even stressing myself when thousands of medical, dental and non medical student has already educate you.

I leave the public to decipher ur illiteracy from your write-up. Why are you bent on disgracing yourself and embarrassing your school here. Someone should go and flog the hell out of your teachers for raising an academic imbe.cile. You are easily the worst writer I have seen on nairaland. You should be in elementaryi school. It's a pity. You are a complete waste of precious resources. You slowpoke who cannot read and write, understand this: optometry is more lucrative than dentistry especially in private practice. Radiography has less unemployment rate than any other health care profession. Your brother who is a student of imaging sciences should have educated you. But u r too dense to learn. U r a fool. From your write up I doubt your ability to gain any admission to the University at all not to talk of any clinical science. I pity you.

ictty:
Av went through all ur thread and av seen how pettish, and starchy ur brain is working, anyone that want to argue with you, should go through ur post, u are a bloody liar. I dont even know so many ppl av tried in educating ur fishing brain. I will not educate u any more, I will allow you suffer with ur Werner syndrome. I know that's not the only medical problem you are suffering from..

Ur arguments is always off point, Am very proud of myself not a jerking poker like u, running from one thread to another search for where they mention optometry. Infact all the points u provide are all myths that fit up with ur stupid fallacy. And am very happy so many people has took their precious time in educating a fish brain and some even go extra length to give you links, a medical doctor educate you, even a non medical student contribute still yet ur Broca's syndrome keep elevating.

Cosmode already called u a slowpoke, now u are referring someone as a slowpoke, hahaha, keep with it up. No one is ready to educate you anymore,

I can't believe this. Look at your syntax. How on earth did you pass js 3. Is this what our educational system has become? Listen to yourself: "am so happy so many people has took their precious time to educate you..." Unbelievable. U spend so much time arguing what you don't know about yet you can't make a simple correct grammatical construction. Please go back for lexical lessons. To think that you were touting your academic prowess.
I never called you slow poke. I called you something worse but nairaland in their magnanimity altered it to a less pungent expression.
You are quoting medical terms to impress me. Try expressing yourself correctly first. I hope u don't go around telling people that you are a medical student, tarnishing their image in the process.
Listen to yourself :"some even go extra mile to give you link"... I am ashamed that u r associated with science. Your brother still has a lot of work to do on you. Please don't quote me again till you learn your tenses.

Reedahgado:
You forgot to tell the op that doctors and dentists are paid same amount

Yes my dear. But Salary and income are not the same. Salary alone does not make a specialty lucrative. The bulk of money most doctors make comes from locum consulting and private practice viability and this in turn depends on the volume of patients in that specialty. If it were just salaries then no medical specialty would be classified as lucrative. Some o&g specialists consult in as many as 5 to 7 clinics in a week and are paid per day for consultation and expensive procedures. And this procedures (C.S for example ) comes regularly. Imagine him performing 5 cs in a week each netting him about 150k. Plus other procedures and the income from his busy private clinic. U can imagine how much he or she makes plus their private clinic which is always busy. That's lucrativeness. Or a neuro? That's my point.

ictty:
Am 100% sure that you didnt put in optometry as your dream course when filling your jamb. Is either u are one of the Remnants of medicine or dentistry which couldn't meet up with cut off mark. Or I guess u av no option than to choose a less competitive course like optometry, just to save your Dugan heels, at least some citizen will can still call u a Doctor.

Did u think the government that has only one body governing medicine and dentistry are fools like you. it's called MDCN and not MOCN, they are quite knowledgeable than you, go and meet them and tell them neither dentistry nor medicine is lucrative, so they can separate them as per ur dull fishing brain.

Dont try me oooo, face Cosmode and mandeyy that have time in educating a bird brain. Imagining stupid words coming out from a so call optometry student " Optometist makes more money than a medical specialist (Opthalmologist)" definitely All optometrist makes more money than medical and dental doctors. U really need a medical attention, ur brain is wallowing in a dungeon of shit.

keep confusing innocent citizen u hear, I dont av time to bandit words with Lilliputian like you.

1.You are obviously stupid. Unlike you who is stupid, I did my research b4 putting in for optometry. I didn't rely on the advice of ignorant fools like you.
I analyzed the profit generating ability of both professions before choosing.
Dentistry is not competitive, if I wanted it I would hv gotten it.
You are not even a dental student so bringing more facts will be an overkill. Moreover you know nothing. The things I say here many dentists know so u r just a stupid troll. General dentists suffer. But you are too dense with indoctrination to understand. U r too stupid to differentiate between income and salary.
Like I said, go into dentistry without adequate plans you will be rich. Thank me later.

ictty:
wóóò, See ur life, No body to support u. Everyone already knows the fact. I will rather go for dentistry than Optometry
Afterall av already put in for medicine in my jamb, just stay there and keep advertising ur course. Av u ever see me arguing or chanting point with u. I don't av ur time, I even doubt the fact that u call urself an optometrist. Who gave u admission to study Optometry? I guess u pass the back door.
Go to Mims Secondary school in Somolu school (2017 graduating set) and ask about me, I would av love to show u my WAEC result, but a quack like u does not befit the stress,

Tell me which school are u and wat level are u? Quack optometrist, keep advertising urself and ride on in confusing innocent citizen, optometry ko optomeme ni.
Very soon u will say optometry is the richest medical course so far, u ve already make a point that optometrist make more money than medical specialist (Opthalmologist) what else is expected from a quack like you. Since u ve make that point, y will I stress my phalanges in typing or quoting your lies.

You must tell me your name and your school including your matric number, U are a quack to the society, I av to report you to your board. U dont av respect to medical doctors, medical specialist (Opthalmologist) and to a dental surgeon.

I know some teachers that makes more money than some doctor, does that mean all teachers will make more money than all doctors. mtchew, u better think wise and learn from the good optometrist u know and stop badging the thread with ur stupid lies.

Of course you r a kid. Ur thread shows u as one. Imagine a slowpoke boasting with waec result. I should go to ur secondary school...
Ur mates are graduates already and you r boasting with waec.
U slowpoke name one thriving dental clinic in edo state or warri. Are u daft? We are comparing lucrativeness and you are spewing thrash.
What concerns me with your foolery. Put in for dentistry by all means, in ten years lets compare u with your radiography brother.
If u r not stupid you shouldn't be here at all spewing nonsense since u r yet to see the four walls of a higher institution.
Again do I sound like someone who gives a mite about your stupid and puerile ideas. Do I sound like I need any support. Do I sound like I want to convince you knowing from your write up that u r innately dumb unlike your smart brother in medical radiography. Will I argue that pharmacy or many money-spinning medical specialties like o&g, pediatrics, neurology, dermatology are not lucrative? No. Put your money where your mouth is. Put in for dentistry, you slowpoke. Let's see where your stupid o'level takes you when the connect for residency fails you.
Your stupid analogy about teachers and doctors fail to meet the requirement of rationality. In the eye care profession, MANY optometrists are richer than ophthalmologists. Some optometrists and ophthalmologists own eye clinics together. Thelish eye Centre one of the biggest in Nigeria is owned by a Nigerian optometrist and Indian ophthalmologist.
You nincompoop, the name surgeon does not translate to lucre. The most lucrative part of eye care is refraction. You block head go and ask any ophthalmologist you know whether there are optometrists richer than him. Even they themselves acknowledge the fact. In Lagos the biggest eye centres are owned by optometrists. Ophthalmologists run locum in many of them. Go and look around and stop advertising your foolishness. ophthalmologists make a bulk of their money from locum in clinics owned by optometrists.
I hope you choose dentistry without planning ahead. Ur foolishness deserves to be rewarded with hunger.

ictty:
Hi nairaland, am about to put in my first jamb, I always want to be doctor or dentist. I av radiography sudent as a brother, he told me dentist is a good profession but wat really shot me down now was he said why study the mouth when u are so intelligent to study the whole body. Am confused, does that mean dentist study the mouth alone.
Nevertheless I still love the proffesion.
Dental student in the building, pls enlighten how things are going on over there in term of lecture, exams and job prospectives.
Plzz give ur view on this two profession.

Go for dentistry my dear. It is the best course to study on earth. It is the most lucrative health course to study. Medical radiography is nothing compared to it. It is much more lucrative than medicine. Don't listen to your brother, what does he know? Dentistry all the way. Let nobody discourage you. Don't thank me, what are friends for.

You think I am here to thread inchoate points with u. You are already denying dentistry. With your shallow and callow reasoning is it any wonder that u were easily deceived into believing dentistry to be lucrative despite the fact that there is no successful dental clinic in your community. You are not a dental student. Nobody is a dental student anymore. It is easier to argue with a mask. Keep it up.

ictty:
Let me advice u jare, physiotherapy is not lucrative at all, OPTOMETRY is more lucrative than ur course. Is either u study Optometry or u die of hunger. The best medical course is Optometry. Take it or leave it.
Thank God Jamb form is still available, take another jamb form and fill in optometry, this my kindid advice for u. Dont thank me, what are we friend for.

Hungry dentist. Keep ur trolling. U r in dentistry abi. Don't worry, people like you are hoping to switch to medicine later. U know what awaits you. What is more, when u switch ur licence to practice as a dentist is withdrawn. Wasting 6yrs for nothing. Bunch of deceitful hypocrites. You will remember this discussion one day.

BossBallz:
Bro Originbm... Do u mayb, know about Physiotherapy and its lucrativeness also

Physiotherapy is lucrative. There is money in it. I hv friends who studied it in Unn doing very well.

Wizydom144:
Lol... And you even forgot that a dentist who specializes in oral and Maxillofacial surgery will also access an eye patient especially in the case of trauma and places where there's no Ophthalmologist.... You can browse and check it....

Dental curriculum also included the eye surgery which is Ophthalmology....

They are not patching with doctors... So many medical field aligned with Dentistry which is what made both medicine and Dentistry one family......

Some specialties of medicine that aligned with medicine are neurology and neurosurgery, oncology, otorhinolaryngology, ophthalmology, Anasthesia, and plastic surgery.....

Dentistry have private suite for accident and emergency, it doesn't end in scale and polishing or extraction.....one dental Implantology which was done in our teaching Hospital cost 350k...... Talk less of benign and malignant tumors of the head and neck....

Most a times, dentists are the first people to notice and probably manage eye problems before referring to an Ophthalmologist and not to an optometrist..... A times people even get treated by a dentist without knowing it, just like a child that recently had his mandible dislocated upon falling from a story building.... Tomorrow he will Still not believe it was a dentist that treated him.... The Public have a shallow knowledge of Dentistry but people in medical school where Dentistry is run always understand whatsapp.... Thank you oga

I pray your senses will

Oga don't talk crap. There is no money in dentistry outside govt subsidy. So you perform ocular chirugeries also. Maybe clinical refraction, orthoptics and ocular diagnosis too. I shudder at ur ignorance. Dentists are the least used Healthcare professionals in Nigeria. U r shouting maxillofacial and neck injury, what percentage of ur class will get residency slot. Few maybe, the rest will be hungry. Even your consultants are poor compared with top optometrists. You will agree that ophthalmologists are way richer than dentists. Yet you don't know that many optometrists are richer than ophthalmologists. Oga thank God for NMA, if not dentistry would have suffered worse fate than they currently face in Nigeria. Have you never gone for a medical Outreach? Who sees the highest number of patients... U r telling me about the money u think u will make if you finish residency... I laugh... Go and ask any ophthalmologist you know to tell u which is more lucrative btw optometry and dentistry. Like I said before even some opticians earn higher incomes than dentists. Oct scan is 65k per patient. Recently nddc gave a group of young optometrists(4 doctors) 1000 members of their staff to perform just Oct on them. 65million. They pay the eye clinic 25k per patient to use their equipment making it 25mil.The rest 35 million is theirs. Just for a few days work. What will a dentist do to make this kind of money in just a few days? Ask Kwara state govt how much they paid for Outreach June last year. Don't compare dentistry with optometry . what is more, u said a dentist is usually the first to identify ophthalmic patients and manage them b4 referring. So a dentist can now manage an ophthalmic patients... Hahaha. Even a general medical practitioner cannot say what you are saying now. Have u ever seen an ophthalmic case note at all... Just yesterday Clinix, a multicare hospital in Lagos in conjunction with Redeemed organized a medical Outreach. 80% were ophthalmic pxs, all seen by optometrists. There are only two eye doctors in Nigeria:optometrists and ophthalmologists. To mention dentistry and eyes together is to flood our society with blindness. Enjoy your pittance conmess salary. That's all you will ever get.

Mandeyy:
Give the name in full. Lt Dr nwankwo is not a full name. i've been giving u full names here. Besides, I've searched earlier and there's no such name as an optometrist being the head of that eye hopital. it's an ophthalmologist who's in charge.

The full name is Lt (Dr) Alban O. Nwankwo.You are just arguing to give yourself happiness.You don't even know where 68ARH is, do you?What you said about checking it out just shows me that you are capital liar.You said you checked and an ophthalmologist is the head of the ophthalmic unit in NARH68. How low you have sunk, telling unnecessary lies just to salve your ego.Go to Yaba, it is not difficult to find. Pls stop telling lies and disgracing yourself here.

Cosmode:
Hahahaha, I can see frustration in your posting. u are quoting same post 3 times and posting a comment 2 times. what a hard life. sorry my brother I don't mean to frustrate you this much. keep your slavery course and protect your job.
Am sorry for the frustration lolzzz

You idiot, someone asked a simple question. Instead of telling him or her why you think dentistry may be rewarding either financially, or in lifestyle, or in job availability, you veered and start remonstrating with her for daring to compare dentistry with physiotherapy. Such a low professional scum like you, I have never seen. And according to you, dentistry is better because they do same course with medicine. Hehehe.This is the worst case of inferiority complex ever. Will a medical student also say that medicine is better because they offer the same course with dentistry.Impossible. This is what I have being saying in my posts. What is the height, you are even a cowardly liar hidding under ss3 uniform. Thank God you are in dentistry. Since you are like this in a written endeavour, I shudder to think of ur what your intelligence would be if interviewed inter praesentis. You are irremediably delusional.

Cosmode:
Look at this low poking nose. what a pity. so I av really impress you to the extent of you thinking am a dental student. Am now really happy. plzzz calm down don't kill yourself on this small matter. I don't av to disturb your brain again cos I know your brain is about to collapsed.
save journey with your OPTOSLAVE. cosmode is really intelligent, I really frustrated ur life to this extent. u were now running up and down the threads to look for support. I know u will go to my Facebook page and even my twitter page. plzzz just take care and don't kill yourself along the way. origbinbi the errand boy.

A slave will always remain a slave, I av work to do here not a slave that have nothing to do than running all about. How wonder you have so much carry over in your courses.
Let me leave you with your ignorant cos I know u are already frustrated.

Cosmode:
Look at this low poking nose. what a pity. so I av really impress you to the extent of you thinking am a dental student. Am now really happy. plzzz calm down don't kill yourself on this small matter. I don't av to disturb your brain again cos I know your brain is about to collapsed.
save journey with your OPTOSLAVE. cosmode is really intelligent, I really frustrated ur life to this extent. u were now running up and down the threads to look for support. I know u will go to my Facebook page and even my twitter page. plzzz just take care and don't kill yourself along the way. origbinbi the errand boy.

A slave will always remain a slave, I av work to do here not a slave that have nothing to do than running all about. How wonder you have so much carry over in your courses.
Let me leave you with your ignorant cos I know u are already frustrated.

hahaha. I knew that the frustration in your tone cannot be that of a newbie. You are a very wicked person. You are encouraging someone to enter a course while you are already looking for transfer form. Are you not wicked? May that transfer not work out for you. It wont. From wat I can see here, you wont even be able to further, if you are lucky enough to finish. Therefore, gbagam! general dentistry awaits you. Hunger will open your ears gor you.

Cosmode:
If am a dental student, I will be happy throughout my life time. Am not a coward like who can't bring out a point to defend his course. U think dentistry is a hidden course like you optometry.
I will advice people not to fall in pit like u av falling into the pit as a result of nobody to advice u. If am a dental student u think I won't have overload your monkey brain with facts and points. Is a pity u can't see, read and interpret, I will advice you to start from the beginning maybe from pry 6 sha. Am 100% percent sure u are not the one composing this message alone, u av someone beside u that is interpreting my simple English for u. Let me wait till that person comes back so he can interprete the above post for u. It seems this simple sentence are really affecting your brain.
You better face ur slavery work and go and do the carry over u av in your courses, rather than coming here to show how stupid you are. Next time before you come here and show your stupidity make sure u enroll for Adult class.
Olorigbinbi

Cosmode:
If am a dental student, I will be happy throughout my life time. Am not a coward like who can't bring out a point to defend his course. U think dentistry is a hidden course like you optometry.
I will advice people not to fall in pit like u av falling into the pit as a result of nobody to advice u. If am a dental student u think I won't have overload your monkey brain with facts and points. Is a pity u can't see, read and interpret, I will advice you to start from the beginning maybe from pry 6 sha. Am 100% percent sure u are not the one composing this message alone, u av someone beside u that is interpreting my simple English for u. Let me wait till that person comes back so he can interprete the above post for u. It seems this simple sentence are really affecting your brain.
You better face ur slavery work and go and do the carry over u av in your courses, rather than coming here to show how stupid you are. Next time before you come here and show your stupidity make sure u enroll for Adult class.
Olorigbinbi

Cosmode:
If am a dental student, I will be happy throughout my life time. Am not a coward like who can't bring out a point to defend his course. U think dentistry is a hidden course like you optometry.
I will advice people not to fall in pit like u av falling into the pit as a result of nobody to advice u. If am a dental student u think I won't have overload your monkey brain with facts and points. Is a pity u can't see, read and interpret, I will advice you to start from the beginning maybe from pry 6 sha. Am 100% percent sure u are not the one composing this message alone, u av someone beside u that is interpreting my simple English for u. Let me wait till that person comes back so he can interprete the above post for u. It seems this simple sentence are really affecting your brain.
You better face ur slavery work and go and do the carry over u av in your courses, rather than coming here to show how stupid you are. Next time before you come here and show your stupidity make sure u enroll for Adult class.
Olorigbinbi

A hidden course..That has two sitting vice-chancellors. A hidden course-that provided the overall best student in Imsu 2015. In Tertiary institution, they start from lecturer 2, just like medicine. An optometry fellowship equals a phd just like medicine.
Optometry is not a noisy course. Go and do your reasearch, they have never been involved in public care activism until recently. Yet they get things done. You will continue touting in public health care because without it, you guys are dead. To the optometrist, options are as plentiful as the sea. Lecturing is the lowest job an optonetrist will actually take.What is ur department's option outside public hospitals....hehehehe. even you, being an unparalleled dunce can answer this.You slowpoke, go and check out how many Nigerian optometrists are working in King Fahd hospital, Saudi Arabia. A simpleton and dental liar. You are not a dental student but ss3 student, abi. You are looking for an easy way out. Don't worry you will understand better when you enter into practice.

Cosmode:
If am a dental student, I will be happy throughout my life time. Am not a coward like who can't bring out a point to defend his course. U think dentistry is a hidden course like you optometry.
I will advice people not to fall in pit like u av falling into the pit as a result of nobody to advice u. If am a dental student u think I won't have overload your monkey brain with facts and points. Is a pity u can't see, read and interpret, I will advice you to start from the beginning maybe from pry 6 sha. Am 100% percent sure u are not the one composing this message alone, u av someone beside u that is interpreting my simple English for u. Let me wait till that person comes back so he can interprete the above post for u. It seems this simple sentence are really affecting your brain.
You better face ur slavery work and go and do the carry over u av in your courses, rather than coming here to show how stupid you are. Next time before you come here and show your stupidity make sure u enroll for Adult class.
Olorigbinbi

Cosmode:
If am a dental student, I will be happy throughout my life time. Am not a coward like who can't bring out a point to defend his course. U think dentistry is a hidden course like you optometry.
I will advice people not to fall in pit like u av falling into the pit as a result of nobody to advice u. If am a dental student u think I won't have overload your monkey brain with facts and points. Is a pity u can't see, read and interpret, I will advice you to start from the beginning maybe from pry 6 sha. Am 100% percent sure u are not the one composing this message alone, u av someone beside u that is interpreting my simple English for u. Let me wait till that person comes back so he can interprete the above post for u. It seems this simple sentence are really affecting your brain.
You better face ur slavery work and go and do the carry over u av in your courses, rather than coming here to show how stupid you are. Next time before you come here and show your stupidity make sure u enroll for Adult class.
Olorigbinbi

A hidden course..That has two sitting vice-chancellors. A hidden course-that provided the overall best student in Imsu 2015. In Tertiary institution, they start from lecturer 2, just like medicine. An optometry fellowship equals a phd just like medicine.
Optometry is not a noisy course. Go and do your reasearch, they have never been involved in public care activism until recently. Yet they get things done. You will continue touting in public health care because without it, you guys are dead. To the optometrist, options are as plentiful as the sea. Lecturing is the lowest job an optonetrist will actually take.What is ur department's option outside public hospitals....hehehehe. even you, being an unparalleled dunce can answer this.

Cosmode:
Thanks u bring the post out urself. If u truely understand English, Pls point out where I specify am a dental student. I know more about them. Before I choose my life career I went to consult more and more people in the field, Not you that just jump into a slave course, this is to tell u that u are a dullard and slowpoke, am very intelligent than you.
You were running helter skelter just to backup your lies, from this thread to another thread hahaha. (monkey brain)

Give out a genuine point to claim you are not a slave not all this rubbish you are doing. From English grammar to another thread, very soon you will go to my Facebook page and from there you will land to my Instagram page. what a fool like you.

Do you have to say it? Have you never heard of inference. I can infer from your hide-and-seek game that you are an inferiority-complex-stricken dental student.You are asking people how to transfer from dentistry to medicine and at the same time stupidly advising someone to choose dentistry over medicine. A hypocrite of the highest order. You know the ordeal waiting for you after your schooling, and yet you are wicked enough to draw people into the trap you fell into. Are you not wicked?
Coward, put your mouth where your money is. A bleeding liar. twenty-something year older with the I.q of a twelve year old. You are asserting that you are in ss3 so that u can say stupid things without being heeded, so that you can mess up grammar without shame, so that you can disgrace your profession anonymously without any iota of scrutiny. ..Cowardly block-head. You are a dental student, even though a bottom-of-the-ladder type. Shouting like a fish -seller. I am embarrassed that you are an undergraduate...thank God you are a dental product. LET PEOPLE NOW JUDGE.

Cosmode:
This guy can't interprete Simple sentence at all. Point out where I mention am a dental student. I don't blame those that gives you optometry instead of your dream course medicine or dentistry.
I love them and I can defend them not your course that no body even knows you than an errand boy.

I see your I.Q is really low to interpret. how did u manage to pass English in your secondary school, am very sure you are of those people that runs their waec.
sit down and read my post again or may be you should give it to your English teacher he can help you out.

You slowpoke, my point is that you dont have to say it. Your activism in another thread has shown it. You are masquerading as an ss3 student yet pushing your dental propaganda. You are the cowardly nincompoop. You want to have the benefit of attacking behind a smokescreen. You are afraid of intellectual scrutiny. We are talking analysis and you are bringing your fish-selling inanities. You are trumpeting dentistry in nairaland, yet you are not a dental student. A coward. You are deliberately slighting another profession, like your impoverished profession is fond of doing. And I ask, with the exception of the extra few paltry thousands you get because you are backed by nma, what is dentistry's selling point. You capital numskull, can ur gps work in a teaching hospital at all? I ask again, can a general dentist work in a teaching hospital at all? Worse still is that, minus the public institutions you are sunk. I am even just repeating what everybody already knows.

Cosmode:
Am now sure and certain that you are not an intelligent student as u claim to be. u cant interprete a simple English sentence and understand. Open your eye read and assimilate the post again. Did I mention am a dental student, I was given advice cos am more intelligent than you due to what I am very sure of and not a brunt liar like you. Seriously this origbim boy lack knowledge and interpretation of simple sentence. I am very sure u are not the one that compose all the post u posting here, cos I know ur brain is low to understand and interpret.

I love both medicine and dentistry so i av to seek advice from intelligent people and a slave boy like you who jump into the river of Slave. U better come back and start again instead of u sinking into the river of Slave.

Cosmode:
Am now sure and certain that you are not an intelligent student as u claim to be. u cant interprete a simple English sentence and understand. Open your eye read and assimilate the post again. Did I mention am a dental student, I was given advice cos am more intelligent than you due to what I am very sure of and not a brunt liar like you. Seriously this origbim boy lack knowledge and interpretation of simple sentence. I am very sure u are not the one that compose all the post u posting here, cos I know ur brain is low to understand and interpret.

I love both medicine and dentistry so i av to seek advice from intelligent people and a slave boy like you who jump into the river of Slave. U better come back and start again instead of u sinking into the river of Slave.

You slowpoke, giving a stupid advice to an unfortunate student. A hopeless coward who cannot defend his course. You are in ss3, abi...ignoramus. You will continue hiding behind ss3 students till you graduate, if you ever do. Do you need to say that you are a dental student before I infer it from your inane posits. Only a dental wannabe will compare medicine to dentistry by any stretch of the imagination. Ur political marriage has not yielded money. Worse still, I deciphered frustration in your tone. Your frustration has not started yet.

Cosmode:
Just try and look through your grammatical construction, Are u sure u are an undergraduate, I doubt it. Did your English teacher see this before posting it?
Ur English teacher is not by your side again abi. you cant even construct a simple sentence without an Editor or Dictionary. I know it will take you 1hr to construct that line. If I av ur time with all this your incorrect grammar u claim you are speaking, u will later cause your English teacher beside you. I don't av ur time now. let me see ur jamb form if truely u choose optometry in ur jamb, am very sure u are a leftover medical or dental aspirant.

I believe the public already knows the truth, U better redo your jamb and not die as an errand boy.

Just try and look through your grammatical construction, Are u sure u are an undergraduate, I doubt it. Did your English teacher see this before posting it?
Ur English teacher is not by your side again abi. you cant even construct a simple sentence without an Editor or Dictionary. I know it will take you an hour to construct that line. If I av ur time with all this your incorrect grammar u claim you are speaking, u will later cause your English teacher beside you. I don't av ur time now. let me see ur jamb form if truely u choose optometry in ur jamb, am very sure u are a leftover medical or dental aspirant.

I believe the public already knows the truth, U better redo your jamb and not die as an errand boy.
I respect the good ones among you that know their job and not the olorigbinbi

A slowpoke who lies that he is an ss3 student because he is afraid of intellectual scrutiny. In another forum you were asking how to change from dentistry to medicine. Are you not ashamed of yourself. Your write-up is like that of a toddler. U r mixing up 'curse' with 'cause'. You are asking for the modus operandi to effect a change from dentistry to medicine, yet you are here decieving people about dentistry and lying that you are an ss3 student. Coward. Finish from dentistry, I will lend you money after your money from internship is finished. Then, since you are too dull to get a residency placement, I am certain that you will die ftom hunger.
Dentistry is not competitive. Dentistry is not competitive. Only 300 people put in for dentistry in 2015. Never has anybody been given dentistry in Uniben who put in for optometry. Medicine, yes. Dentistry is fortunate enough not to take applicants from medicine dimply because ur department accepts only 25 .
You are masters yet you guys recieve 70k post nysc, in private practice, and you have to travel to kaduna to even get it.You are masters , yet ib a class of 25 only 2 may manage to get a slot.The rest will go and become pastors. How much salary does your consultants earn ftom public hospitals....btw 800k to 1m a month. This poverty-stricken dental slowpoke, is that money?. One outreach by a non - doctor of optometry can give 300k in two weeks. You are too poverty-stricken to get it into your numskull that salary is only a fraction of earning power. Dentistry that is a financial dead-end. As a general dentist how many lucrative proceedures can you perform. You slowpoke hiding behind ss3 uniform, asking people how to transfer from dentistry to medicine and yet coming here to praise dentistry to the skies. May the transfer never work out for you, so that hunger will wipe sense into your senseless skull. I never entered optometry like you entered dentistry uninformed. I knew what it was, and its enormous prospects. By the way O.D is my second degree. My first is also way more lucrative than dentistry.

Cosmode:
Am sure u are still in J.s.s when u are at my age, A sensible dental student will not come here and be arguing with a poke nose like you. Did you think everybody here understand your stupid grammar u are saying, people like you will make like difficult. speak a simple English and lets take ppl along, u here are splashing out stupid grammar which is useless. Make a simple and understandable sentence and not looking for dictionary all about. I don't blame you is because u cant compose a simple English that is the reason why you taking along your dictionary, and thanks to your English teacher that is beside you to help editing your grammar before posting. This thread should be optometry and Microbiology and not dentistry. is like you comparing an ant to an elephant. 7
If my mates are gaining admission then your mate are in medicine not OPTOSLAVE. if you really want to show ur stupid intelligent as you claim to be then take a jamb form and go meet real student in medicine or dentistry and not a secondary school course like OPTOSLAVE. when am not as dull like you, why will I go for Optometry.
You now see u av no job to do, your medical and dental counterpart are there in library studying for their MBBS and BDS exam, u are here on nairaland displaying your stupidity.
what a fool like you, am sure your carry over is more than 10, maybe that's what disturbing your brain.

Can dental student divert back to medicine. How many yrs will it take both:

This was ur question in a thread. A hypocritic bufoon.You already know what your profession is.
You are already looking for diversion yet you are spinning thrash. A slowpoke who is so ashamed of his course that
he claims to be an ss3 student. And unfortunately, that is your level of intellect.