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RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 11:42pm On Sep 15, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Check ahmadou ahidjo his dad and mum were Fulani
That's exactly the point we don't know how pure we are(expect for me of course) so why do you expect him to show you a pure Fulani? Whatever that means , as far we are concerned a pure Fulani is a one with a Fulani mum and Fulani dad however this is not science that's social construct patriarchy cause that ur parents identify as Fulani doesn't mean along your bloodline your ancestors didn't add foreign elements

Your Berbers craps is just what it is BS
So you're not arguing against fulanis having foreign ancestry, you're just don't agree that they have some Berber ancestry?
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 11:34pm On Sep 15, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: That's exactly the point, Fulani are not neighbors with Berbers lipsrsealed lipsrsealed undecided, besides there are Fulani with the same look in central Africa republic, and there is no Berber pop over there, in fact our former director of football federation before we jailed him was a Fulani the dude looks like a white man on some pics still there is no Berber pop in the Cameroon Nigerian axis
Maybe you are talking about the Arabs shoa/chwa/chuwa
Also yes whatnu said is true that's why Fulani heavily mix with Hausa, Wolof , serer & co that's actually their neighbors not some Berbers or Arabs , you have more chance to convince us with Fulani being heavily mixed with Hausa or Wolof but not Berber come on dude
Dude, aren't Fulanis nomadic? Fula living in Central African Republic obviously have ancestry from elsewhere, the same in any country you find them. They've had contact with Berbers and many north African population throughout their history and mixing took place, I've already posted the evidence.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 11:12pm On Sep 15, 2014
Fulaman198: That's not what the genetic data shows, only few may be. I can tell you right now the Fulani in Senegambia, Mauritania, Mali, Sierra Leone, Burkina Faso, etc. do not have any Berber. Also very few Fulani from Nigeria, Niger and Chad may have a Berber mixture due to intermarriage between Tuaregs and Fulani. However, a pure-blooded Fulani does not.
Dude it doesn't have to be through marriage, there's also rape, also a fulanis with berber ancestry might have more success in finding a mate and having children due to being seen as more attractive, therefore the berber genes will be more fixed in the fulani population.

Can u show me what a pure fulani looks like.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 11:02pm On Sep 15, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Significant amount? undecided not even 1/4 of the Fula pop is mixed with the so called Berber, furthermore, if this was a trend back then to the point of a significant amount, chances are it would continue even today, which is not the case , how many Fulani Berbers unions do you know or have u heard of?

The Fulani'' features'' are due to their location , climate and diet nothing to do with being mixed to an epidemic level
I said some fulanis (especially those you see on threads or forums showcasing the so called beauty of fulanis), Berber ancestry varies throughout the fulani population, from 0 to over 90%. There's always mixing between neighboring population, now matter how strong the opposition against it is.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 10:21pm On Sep 15, 2014
katzz: yes, u disappointed?
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 10:20pm On Sep 15, 2014
katzz: yes, u disappointed?
He's gonna follow you all over the forum, and bully you, he does that to SA ladies, just ignore him..
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 10:17pm On Sep 15, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Some people are funny that some Fulani are mixed does not mean that the Fulani as a whole ,the ethnic group is a result of Arabs or Berber shagging some Africans tribes

Fulani predated the Berbers and Arabs on this continent, how can they b the results of an union with the sand niggers when prior those camel fckers thy existed already .

That an Igbo is mixed doesn't mean Igbo are mixed
Same with Yoruba or Hausa
The point is that a significant amount of fulanis are mixed with Berbers, that's what the genetic data shows, there might have been people calling themselves fulanis prior to contact with Berbers. Certain physical features that some Fulanis have are a result of mixing with berbers, that's all we're saying.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 4:21pm On Sep 14, 2014
Fulaman198: Full of crap, say what you will no facts back up your statement. We never mixed with Berbers until more recently where some not all subgroups of the Fulani have intermarried with Tuareg people. Mixing is seen as a huge crime in Fulani culture.
okay.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m):
Howmanage: .

Fulanis are African, Libyans are African, Khoisan are African, Yoruba are African etc However, we are all different and how each group came to be is different. A certain percentage of the African population can be described as you have in bolded, obviously with more positive and appreciative language than you have used for example -Velvety, dark chocolate sometimes midnight black skin, which can sometimes occur in individuals as bright yellow skin;,crisp and tightlycoiled hair, aesthetically rounded and generous noses with subtle bridges, well defined bodies of efficient proportions, beautiful, soft "pillow" lips, proud foreheads and most of all a spiritual and mostly accepting and naive soul.

This describes a huge and substantial population of Africans, and this is the race that has one way or other ( Jihadism, migration, etc)encountered other races and brought about many other types of people who do not on average bear this description eg Fulani
It's a fact that Fulanis are mixed with Berbers, anyway people can believe what they want, you won't convince fulaman of that fact.

here's scientific data confirming that fact

The Fulani have an old "Berber" (?) element

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2012/01/800px-Afroasiatic-en.svg_.png

After the second Henn et al. paper I did download the data. Unfortunately there are only 62,000 SNPs intersecting with the HGDP. This is somewhat marginal for fine-grained ADMIXTURE analyses, though sufficient for PCA from what I recall. That being said, the intersection with the HapMap data sets runs from ~190,000 SNPs, to the full 250,000 SNPs (this makes sense since the Henn et al. #2 data set has some HapMap populations in it). So I’ve been experimenting a fair amount in the past few days, and I thought I would post on one issue which was clear in the original paper, but which I have replicated.

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2012/01/800px-Fulani_Woman_from_Niger.jpg

The Fulani (Fula) people of the western Sahel seem to have a relatively old West Eurasian which has distinct affinities with the “Maghrebi” element discerned by Henn et al.

In fact, the non-Sub-Saharan African ancestry of the Fulani is almost exclusively of this origin.

To me this serves as a peculiar mirror of what you see in the Cushitic and Ethiopian Semitic peoples of the far east of the Sahel-Sudan latitudinal region. These populations also seem to be compounds of a Sub-Saharan Africa element with a West Eurasian one, but in their case the admixture is almost exclusively from a Southwest Eurasian (Arabian) component. Geographically these two symmetric admixture events make sense, but the exclusivity is still a bit surprising.


Additionally, in both the case of the Fulani and the Ethiopian and Cushitic groups the admixture is widely distributed and even enough to imply that they are old events. I also assumed this because in some admixture runs a “pure” Fulani cluster partitions out, which is not unexpected for stabilized hybrid populations ( all human populations are stabilized hybrids if you go back far enough).

To give you a flavor of what I’m talking about here are some screen shots of a run which is currently going. It has 180,000 markers. I removed Tunisians and many African populations from the Henn et al. data set, and included in the Utah whites from the HapMap. The individual plots show the ancestral proportions for each Fulani in the data set:

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2012/01/fula1.png

https://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/files/2012/01/fula2.png

So what can we see here? First, let’s reiterate something: as in the case of the populations of the Horn of Africa the West Eurasian element in the Fulani is difficult to find in “pure” form in the populations from which it putatively derived. What does that imply? I think that that means that the Fulani have an origin in relatively recent historic time, on the order of 2,000, not 10,000, years. That is because I am skeptical that the Fulani would be able to maintain genetic distinctiveness for ~10,000 years from other populations around them. In contrast, the last 2,000 years have seen the rise of various cultural institutions, from trans-Saharan nomadism to Islam, which might slow down admixture sufficiently to maintain the differences between the Fulani and their neighbors. It also implies to me that the non-Maghrebi "Near Eastern” element which Henn et al. discerned is relatively a recent phenomenon in northwest Africa, else the Fulani should also carry it. How recent? Probably from Classical Antiquity down to the Muslim period. Observe that many North Africa groups have a red “European” element. This may be from Near Eastern populations, but I suspect that the fraction here is just too high to be explained by that. Also, you can see above that some groups in Morocco have nearly as much of this as Egyptians, but far less of the more genuine Near Eastern components.

In all likelihood the West Eurasian component came to the Fulani via the Tuareg or a related or antecedent population. So if you typed the Tuareg you would probably get a better sense of the “pure” “Maghrebi” genetic profile. These genetic results also can serve as fodder to understanding the ethnogenesis of the landscape of the Sahel. In the map above it is interesting to observe that the Hausa speak an Afro-Asiatic language, even though their West Eurasian component is far lower than the Fulani, who speak Niger-Congo dialects. What gives? I suspect that the difference here is that the Hausa are a case of elite emulation of a cultural complex which was much more integrated and elaborated by the time it arrived on the West African scene. This explains how there could be language shift, while in the case of the Fulani there was none. Another hypothesis is that Afro-Asiatic derives from Sub-Saharan Africa itself, and the Chadic (Hausa) group are basal to the phylogeny. I’ll let readers explore the implications of that. A final aspect, I put the quotations in the title because perhaps the Berber dialects spread via elite emulation, and the original Maghrebi ancestors of the Fulani spoke a different language, which has been lost?

As they say, for every answer there bloom a thousand questions….
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 9:50pm On Sep 13, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: It is said Bantu pushed them out of good land like they did with khoisan (more into the kalahari desert) , no wonder the frustrated and angry somalians tried to use Arabs to reconquer their lands yet they still failed grin grin

We send the somalians and other Cushitic in the most arid parts

Even recently the so called Bantu slaves in Somalia are the ones farming on good land and the less affected by starvation, tho jihadist miltias were threatening them
axactly
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 9:48pm On Sep 13, 2014
CAMNEWTON4PRES: Despite bantu civilizing Khoisan they retained their language tho
The khoisan were in areas that bantus had no interest in, like the cape ( with a Mediterranean climate unsuitable for bantu crops) ,and the Kalahari, or else those primitive folks would have been history.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 9:38pm On Sep 13, 2014
axum: Lmao, Somalis despite being 20 million control the most land in Africa by any ethnic group.

Cushitic history shows that they easily conquered Sudan and parts of Southern egypt and Arabia, and were using Bantus as slaves. go read history.
lmao, you mean dead land that no one gives a sh*t about, Isnt the most fertile and rich land in that part of the world under bantus? Isn't that why y'all are always starving, because your land is unable to produce food with all those famines in that part of Africa?
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 6:32pm On Sep 13, 2014
KenyanLady: You guys are sad losers, Lupita is beautiful woman and 100 percent pure African.

https://uk.eonline.com/eol_images/Entire_Site/2014018/rs_634x1024-140118164259-634-Lupita-Nyongo_-sag.ls.11814_copy.jpg
I quite agree, don't get why folks are hating on this gorgeous lady.
RomanceRe: Interracial Relationships - Somalis + Caribbean And Somalis + Other Africans by osystein(m): 4:58pm On Sep 13, 2014
ArtanK: Amhara* people are Habesha, they don't drink cow blood and they live far from Bantu inhabited lands.

@ the bolded part, present your facts.

Somalis ruled the only hydraulic empire in Africa during the middle ages, so much for introducing agriculture. Somalis were also among the first people to domesticated the camel.
Somalis started from the red sea and within a few hundred years we reached the river Tana. We would have reached further than Tanzania in the south if your British masters hadn't put a stop to our expansion both to west and south. All that was achieved by people who number less than 25 million today, we were probably less than 100 thousand back then.
Haha, the same can be said about the bantu group the ngoni, who were zulus numbering about 1000 thousand men, who in a few years conquered most of southern africa and went as far as Zambia, malawi and southern Tanzania. Their expansion was stopped by the German colonialist, they would have probably reached Somalia if not for colonialist.

read about the ngoni .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ngoni_people
CelebritiesRe: 20 Sexiest Africans Alive In 2014 - Illuzion Magazine by osystein(m): 5:47pm On Sep 12, 2014
Was expecting to see Lupita
CelebritiesRe: Ghanaian Women 3rd Most Beautiful In Africa – Ranker by osystein(m): 5:40pm On Sep 12, 2014
Car TalkRe: Inside Innoson Auto Factory by osystein(m): 12:15am On Sep 11, 2014
hmmm, some interesting info on the thread, I still see this as a start. No doubt that Innoson will soon be a full fledged car manufacture..
SportsRe: Nigeria Vs South Africa: AFCON Qualifier (0 - 0) On 10th September 2014 by osystein(m): 9:01pm On Sep 10, 2014
SE struggling against local players, smh.
Nairaland GeneralRe: "Like" Feature Temporarily Disabled For Experiment by osystein(m): 11:53am On Sep 10, 2014
rather have a dislike button
Car TalkRe: Inside Innoson Auto Factory by osystein(m): 9:57am On Sep 10, 2014
ghananotnaija: And Nigerians claim Innoson is a car manufacturer? I wouldn't trust them to fix my car, talkless of making it.

Everything in Nigeria is a fraud. Fradulent and useless. SMH.

Ghana can choose to assemble Chinese garbage too, but Ghanaians won't want to drive in a coffin.
I was expecting one of you mo.rons to show up with your usual senseless comments.
Car TalkRe: Inside Innoson Auto Factory by osystein(m): 9:13am On Sep 10, 2014
There is room for improvement obviously, but congratulations, rome wasn't build in a day.
CelebritiesRe: Is She The Most Beautiful Black Young Woman In Nigeria? ( Photos ) by osystein(m): 9:52pm On Sep 09, 2014
She is indeed pretty, but not the prettiest. Though some will not believe me, my sister and girlfriend are prettier. Nigeria is blessed with beauty.
CelebritiesRe: Cesc Fabregas And His Beautiful Girlfriend by osystein(m): 9:47pm On Sep 09, 2014
Jeez, I was expecting an extremely hot looking chick like iker casilla's girlfriend, she is average as best. undecided
CelebritiesRe: Ghanaian Women 3rd Most Beautiful In Africa – Ranker by osystein(m): 9:24pm On Sep 09, 2014
traware: You really give that fellow the time of day?I never knew I came across as 'crazy' on nairaland.Hmm...who knows...maybe I'm 'axum'
Well, I notice that northerners like the guy, maybe y'all think alike.
CelebritiesRe: Ghanaian Women 3rd Most Beautiful In Africa – Ranker by osystein(m): 8:41pm On Sep 09, 2014
traware: Never heard of him.Aren't somalis black anymore?How do I sound like him?
go through his posts and see for yourself . He's probably going to show up here now that I've mentioned him.

www.nairaland.com/axum/posts
CelebritiesRe: Ghanaian Women 3rd Most Beautiful In Africa – Ranker by osystein(m): 8:22pm On Sep 09, 2014
traware: Which somali guy?Have I been sounding like him previously or just recently?How does he sound?
U don't know a Somali poster who's always opening threads about Somali beauty and insults black people? He's got many handles, his latest being axum.

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