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Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 12:17am On Apr 25, 2015
V0lv0:
Oh okay. I thought you were Zulu by your comments. Still do to be honest. I don't know what uneducated Xhosas have to do with this. Every where you go in any country you will find educated and uneducated
So you'll be saying goodbye to Cape Town soon? Where will you be settling, Ghana, Europe or US.

I wonder if donodion is still in Mzansi
Foreign AffairsRe: Outrage After South African Minister Denied Entry To Israel by osystein(mod): 12:09am On Apr 25, 2015
Isreal/mossad might the third force behind these xeno attacks, now south Africa has no moral standing to oppose Isreali apartheid.


Mossad are behind this, my personal opinion.
Foreign AffairsRe: Open Letter From A Nigerian Lady To South Africans by osystein(mod): 12:03am On Apr 25, 2015
South Africans should just accept that their country doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the rest of Africa because Africa helped in fighting Apartheid.

South Africa has enough room and Resources to accommodate all Africans seeking greener pastures in it. Closing borders is unAfrican. Africans must feel at home anywhere on the continent. All African countries must work together and destroy south Africa, how can a black man not welcome another black man, it's unheard off.
Lets get our Chinese friends to nuke south Africa.
Foreign AffairsNight Train Kills 14 Migrants ‘sleeping’ On Macedonia Tracks by osystein(mod): 11:25pm On Apr 24, 2015
VELES, Macedonia — A group of migrants trying to reach European opportunity via what’s billed by smugglers as a “safe” route — trekking along train tracks through the Balkans — was hit by an overnight train in a remote river gorge in Macedonia, killing 14. The deaths of the undocumented migrants from Africa and Asia underscore how, even as tens of thousands risk drowning in the Mediterranean to reach European shores, many others gamble with their lives by taking perilous overland journeys to reach Hungary, a popular back door to the 28-nation European Union. Railway officials said many of those killed Thursday night had stopped to rest after an exhausting hourslong hike and were sleeping on the tracks when the train plowed into them. The overland route from Greece through Macedonia and Serbia has soared in popularity over the past two years as migrants seek a less dangerous path than the sea crossing from North Africa to Italy. Trains killed 40 migrants last year, usually in groups of one or two, compared to the more than 1,300 lives lost in the Mediterranean over the past three weeks alone — a horrifying statistic that has put 2015 on track to be the deadliest year ever for the sea crossing. The Balkans smuggling route follows railway lines through most of the 125-mile (200-kilometer) hike through Macedonia, and authorities say it was only a question of time before so many trekkers would die in a single train accident. The rail line includes narrow wooden bridges and two long tunnels through mountains that can leave migrants trapped with no way of escape, as well as frequent riverside bends that conceal the sight and sounds of oncoming trains. Thursday’s accident occurred around 10:30 p.m. on a narrow stretch of tracks sandwiched between the Vardar River and a steep slope. The express train from Thessaloniki, Greece, to the Serbian capital of Belgrade was about six miles (10 miles) northwest of the central Macedonian town of Veles when the train’s engineer spotted a group of about 100 migrants on the tracks in the dark, 100 yards (meters) ahead. “At the time that the train struck the group of migrants, they were resting and sleeping on the tracks,” said Macedonian Railways manager Nikola Kostov. “The train driver honked and tried to stop, but it was too late and the train hit the group of migrants who weren’t able to leave the tracks.” Kostov said the train was observing the local speed limit and described the stretch of track as “dangerous and unapproachable” for pedestrians. Though Kostov did not give a precise speed, the schedule shows that the train does not typically travel quickly, taking more than 14 hours to cover 400 miles (645 kilometers), averaging just 28 mph (45 kph). Authorities said the 14 dead appeared to be mostly Somalis and Afghans in their 20s, though other details remained uncertain — not surprising, given that migrants often travel without IDs to complicate deportation efforts if caught. Somalis and Afghans are among the top nationalities using the Balkans route, along with Syrians fleeing civil war in their homeland. Police detained nine migrants who remained at the scene Friday morning and questioned them about what happened and the identities of the dead. They said survivors described clambering up rocky slopes or clinging to bushes on the riverbank to escape the train. The Veles prosecutor, Slavica Temelkovski, said the detained migrants were mostly relatives or friends of the dead and had identified themselves and the victims as being from Somalia and Afghanistan. Tentative plans were put in place to bury the dead Saturday at Veles’ Muslim cemetery on the presumption that, barring authentication to the contrary, all came from predominantly Muslim countries. “This city is in disbelief,” said Veles Mayor Slavco Cadiev. He said Veles residents over the past year had grown used to seeing hundreds of migrants pass through the town at once, usually sticking close to the rail lines. Veterans of the Balkans route have told The Associated Press that following the train tracks in Macedonia is one of the most nerve-racking parts of what can be a monthslong journey involving detentions and deportations back to Greece to start the journey over. Smugglers usually instruct migrants to travel the tracks at night, despite the increased risk of being hit by trains, because they are less likely to be spotted by authorities in the darkness. For many, the Balkans route starts in Turkey, where migrants pack into small boats that are often piloted by migrants themselves and abandoned once they reach the nearest Greek island. That journey, because of overcrowding and the inexperience of boat operators, is often the most dangerous part of the journey — a reality underscored this week when a wooden trawler carrying about 90 migrants broke up as it ran aground on the Greek island of Rhodes, killing three on board, including a boy. Since February, the AP has followed a group of 45 West African migrants using the Balkans route. As they gathered at the Macedonian border in March, a smuggler warned they could easily be killed by a train if they didn’t break up into small groups with a spotter at the front and the back, to shout alerts to the others. When walking at night on the tracks, migrants say, it can be hard to distinguish the wooden ties from stony gaps, never mind tell where the river is and how steep the falls might be on either side. Painful dives and tumbles into mud or gravel to avoid trains are common. “When trains come, they don’t honk. It’s woods. There’s nobody there,” said Hamed Kouyate, an 18-year-old from Ivory Coast who completed the Balkans route this month after a two-week trek, a brief police detention and other setbacks. Kouyate said all members of his group struggled to see in the often moonless night and many suffered injuries from falls. He said they often were slow to react to trains because of mental and physical exhaustion. At one point, he said, one woman with an injured foot had to be pushed by others out of the way of an oncoming train. “When you’re on the tracks, you’re afraid all the time,” he said in a telephone interview from France, where he arrived this week. “You’re afraid because from one minute to the next, there might be a train.”
Foreign AffairsSwedish Police On Vacation Break Up Fight On New York Subway by osystein(mod): 11:14pm On Apr 24, 2015
NEW YORK- A group of Swedish law enforcement officers who were vacationing in the United States broke up a fight on a New York subway.

Erik Naslund, Samuel Kvarzell, Markus Asberg and Eric Jansberger were headed to see a Broadway performance of "Les Miserables" on Wednesday when a brawl broke out between two men on a crowded train.

CBS New York's radio affiliate 1010 WINSreports the train operator took to the intercom to see if there were any police officers on the train. The Swedish officers then stepped up to the plate.

Police say the four held one of the brawlers until New York Police Department officers responded and took him to a hospital. The Swedish officers went on their way. But witnesses captured the scene on video.

New York City Police Commissioner William Bratton said Friday that he's grateful the Swedes stepped in and broke up the fight.

The four men were treated to a tour of NYPD headquarters Thursday and were getting a ride on a police boat Friday.
Foreign AffairsProtest Banned In Burundi by osystein(mod): 10:28pm On Apr 24, 2015
Bujumbura - Burundi's government on Friday announced a nationwide ban on demonstrations following threats by the opposition and activists to step up protests against controversial plans by the president to seek re-election.

President Pierre Nkurunziza is widely expected to launch his campaign for a third term in office during a ruling party congress on Saturday, defying what opponents say is a two-term limit set out in the constitution as well as the peace deal that ended Burundi's civil war in 2006.

There are fears that the move, coupled with mounting allegations that Nkurunziza's CNDD-FDD party is intimidating opponents, could push the small central African nation back into violence. Burundi's interior minister said the ban on protests would be effective on Saturday.

"The government forbids any demonstration for whatever reason anywhere in the country," Edouard Nduwimana announced. Opposition parties and civil society groups are campaigning for the president not to run again and have threatened to take to the streets. The government has also already warned that it could call out the army. The influential Catholic Church has also spoken out against the president's expected attempt to stay put, and earlier this month UN rights chief Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein warned that the country was at a "crossroads" between a fair vote and a route back to its "horrendously violent past". Presidential elections in Burundi are scheduled to be held on June 26. Burundi's constitution only allows a president to be elected twice - for a total of 10 years in power - but Nkurunziza argues he has only been directly elected by the people once. For his first term, beginning in 2005, he was selected by parliament. The opposition boycotted the last elections in 2010, alleging fraud.

AFP
CrimeRe: Indonesia Set To Execute Drug Convicts, Including 4 Nigerians by osystein(m): 9:10pm On Apr 24, 2015
Legalize the damn thing, it isnt worse than alcohol.
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 8:54pm On Apr 24, 2015
kandiikane:
I guess we have to do more research when we see videos like these.
the good thing is that the horrific pictures and videos however fake will cause a big backlash against the violence.
Foreign AffairsRe: Open Letter From A Nigerian Lady To South Africans by osystein(mod): 7:32pm On Apr 24, 2015
FLYFIRE:
@DF, I saw a video today for the first time where two people, one as young as about 13 or 14 years, were tied together with a tyre between them & set ablaze. They were screaming in horror & people watched them burn beyond recognition. The curse that has come upon South Africa will almost be impossible to lift.
Video us not xenophobi.

see. They're not foreigners https://www.nairaland.com/2268102/youths-burnt-alive-south-africa
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 12:12pm On Apr 24, 2015
kandiikane:
I saw the video today and it was absolutely horrifying especially when the younger of the bunch was set ablaze, brought tears to my eyes. I had a feeling it was not part of the xenophobia attacks but still horrible thing to do even if they killed someone. The laws should be followed so the right people can enforce it accordingly.
absolutely, primitive people all over.
there's the story about a foreign child attacked by xenophobes, also fake.
here's where the image was sourced http://www.politicsweb.co.za/iservice/rubber-bullet-did-this--daily-sun . child is south african who was hit by a stray rubber bullet during service delivery protest.

infact most of the images arent related to current xenophobia or south africa.

Fake photos misrepresent xenophobic violence
http://ewn.co.za/2015/04/17/Fake-photos-misrepresenting-xenophobic-violence

Internet boasts false images of xenophobic violence in South Africa
http://observers.france24.com/content/20150417-south-africa-durban-immigrant-xenophobic-false-photos
Foreign AffairsRe: Open Letter To NIGERIA From A SOUTH AFRICAN by osystein(mod): 11:48am On Apr 24, 2015
Dahjhi:
All these thrash to justify this animalistic behaviors? U are kidding bro
those gruesome images are fake, and that child is south african, she was short in a service deilivery protest in january check this link. where that image was sourced from.

http://www.politicsweb.co.za/iservice/rubber-bullet-did-this--daily-sun
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 3:22pm On Apr 23, 2015
still seeing this so called xeno[phobic video posted here.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(mod): 1:05pm On Apr 22, 2015
stillchris:
nope. i don't think they are the smartest on the continent. they managed to develop due to the massive assistance they got frim their european brothers. even at the time of sanctions britain, US, israel still protected them.

whether non-africans are smarter. i don't think so. environment helps alot in building potentials.

Nigerians for instance. we don't have the best rated universities in Nigeria but a Nigerian graduate who goes to a more developed country for his masters and further studies does better than alot of whites born and raised over there.(proof is everywhere).

but reverse is the case for these south africans.

the question should be why we don't have that environment. well, one thing that i know is killing our development in africa is tribalism.

but that's an argument for a different topic.
So why were their European brothers so advanced compared to Africans in the first place, why weren't Africans the ones assisting their African brothers develop in Europe.

Seeing that most AA are of igbo descent, why do they perform so badly compared to other groups in psychometric tests in the US. You can't really compare the top Nigerian students with the average cohort in the developed countries really.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(mod): 11:59am On Apr 22, 2015
stillchris:
naaa... they are not africans. and they are far better than these zulu animals
but still, they have to be the smartest creature on the continent, would you say non-Africans are better than Africans, considering.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(mod): 7:01am On Apr 22, 2015
stillchris:
bwahahahahahahaha... i was just laughing as i watched this. dude is high as fvck

there we have it gentlemen. south africans (blacks) are the dumbest species on the continent.

why didn't botha just explain it better so we can let them keep these animals on a leash.

'foreigners are killing our economy'.... how? buy doing jobs you are too lazy and dull to do? or opening businessess that also adds to your revenue and gdp?

these animals are crazy i sweargrin.
does it mean the south african(white) is the smartest creature on the continent?
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 6:27am On Apr 22, 2015
clemz88:
Not for sale
were you the other poster?
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 9:16pm On Apr 21, 2015
clemz88:
Not for sale
FP
Foreign AffairsRe: Russian Republic Of South Africa? -Attorney Patryk Utulu by osystein(mod): 9:12pm On Apr 21, 2015
PatrykUtulu

Who's the man in the pic.
Foreign AffairsRe: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by osystein(mod): 8:57pm On Apr 21, 2015
Ugandan comedian.
CrimeRe: Youths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op): 4:22pm On Apr 21, 2015
babanibabatoyin:
Sometime it gud but I shouldn't all matter into ourhands
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Foreign AffairsEthiopia Mourns Christians Killed By Islamic State by osystein(mod): 1:39pm On Apr 21, 2015
Addis Ababa - Ethiopia began three days of national mourning on Tuesday, with joint Christian and Muslim prayers for more than 20 Ethiopian Christians killed by Islamic State militants in Libya. The murders have horrified Ethiopians and sparked global condemnation, including from Pope Francis who expressed "great distress and sadness" over the murders. "They are animals, they are outside of all humanity," said Tesfaye Wolde, who saw his brother Balcha Belete executed on a video released by the militants. "I saw him kneeling, a masked man pointing a gun to my brother and his friend, with a knife to their throats." "We have a duty to raise our voice to tell the world that the killing of the innocent like animals is completely unacceptable," said Abune Mathias, the patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. "Their actions are repugnant." Joint prayers were held along with Muslim leaders, led by Sheikh Mohammed Jemal, head of Ethiopia's Islamic Affairs Supreme Council, who said the killing of people like "chickens" had no place in Islam. Masked fighter in black The ISIS video, released on Sunday, showed militants in Libya holding captives who they described as "followers of the cross from the enemy Ethiopian Church". A masked fighter in black brandishing a pistol makes a statement threatening Christians if they do not convert to Islam. The video shows one group of about 12 men being beheaded on a beach and another group of at least 16 being shot in the head in a desert area. "If IS were religious, they would never have killed human beings," said Kedir Hussein, a Muslim who attended the joint prayers, adding "the death of these young people is like someone was killed in my family". Almost two-thirds of Ethiopians are Christians, the majority of those Orthodox Copts - who say they have been in the Horn of Africa nation since the first century AD - as well as large numbers of Protestants. slam also has an ancient history in Ethiopia, brought to the country by some of the earliest followers of the Prophet Mohammed, who were sheltered there by the Christian king. Executed before attempting crossing Tesfaye described how his brother Balcha, an electrician, as well as his friend Eyasu Yekuneamelak - also seen killed on the video - left Ethiopia two months ago seeking work and a better life, heading first for Sudan. "He left for Libya to go to Italy," he said, speaking to a small crowd who had come to offer their condolences, outside his brick house in the capital Addis Ababa. But the pair, who left Ethiopia without telling their family, were captured by IS fighters before they could risk the dangerous sea crossing to Europe, where thousands have drowned in rickety boats. "They wanted to change their lives, improve their condition - life is very difficult here," said Mersha Mitku, a friend of both men. He knows at least 25 others who took the same route to Libya. Six made it safely to Italy, but he has no news from the others. Europe's southern shores have been swamped with migrants fleeing war and hardship, hundreds of whom have died in a string of tragic shipwrecks. An estimated 800 people drowned on Sunday off Libya in the Mediterranean's worst migrant disaster. More than 11 000 migrants have been rescued by Italian authorities since the middle of last week alone. "Maybe this story will discourage some for some time, but not for long," Mersha said. AFP
CrimeYouths Burnt Alive South Africa, Video Shows Vigilantism Not Xenophobia. by osystein(op):
I've been seeing a very graphic video being posted here for several days now by many people, claiming to show foreign youths being set ablaze by a xenophobic mob. The video really shocked me.

The video though is misleading, it's not related to xenophobia, the youths are South Africans. the true story behind the video is that the youths were lynched and set ablaze after confessing to stoning a man to death, it was later picked up by someone and misreported as showing a xenophobic mob burning immigrants. This doesn't in anyway justify the brutality and primitiveness of the event, but it puts the incident in context.

Here's the original YouTube footage of the incident reported by news back in march.
how a horrific case of mob justice played out in Rustenburg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5-DB1X72Q&app=desktop&persist_app=1&client=mv-google&gl=KE&hl=en-GB


Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia

Johannesburg - North West police said on Saturday ahorrific video that has gone viralof a group of young men being necklaced and burnt alive in South Africa was in no way linked to xenophobic attacks and was not an attack on Zimbabweans as suggested on social media.

It was however, vigilantism in retaliation for a bar fight death in Sondela informal settlement in Rustenburg on 7 March.

"It has nothing to do with Durban and nothing to do with xenophobia," said Colonel Sabatha Mokgwabone, spokesperson for North West police.

"There is no way we can say the two are linked," he said, referring to attacks on foreign nationals in Durban this past week, the most recent being the petrol bombing of two Ethiopians in the container they used as a shop and sleeping quarters in Umlazi.

The shocking video was seized upon on social media on Saturday morning as evidence of the violence against foreign nationals this week as xenophobic tension in South Africa rises.

But the truth behind the footage is quite different. The video records an incident in Rustenburg in March and neither the victims, nor the alleged perpetrators are foreigners. l Sabatha said nobody seemed to pay much attention to police reports of the 7 March attack on the five youths in Sondela until public broadcaster SABC was given footage, and it went viral.

According to Mokgwabone, this is what is known by police of the events leading up to the attack on the five men, and what happened afterwards:

- On 7 March five youths were in a tavern in Sondela in Rustenburg and an argument started between them and a 30-year-old man.

- The fight was broken up and they were separated, but later, the five came across the 30-year-old man in the streets and started throwing stones at him and assaulting him with other "'instruments''.

- The 30-year-old man was taken to Tlhabane Clinic, but he was certified dead on arrival. Durban police spokesperson Major Thulani Zwane said on Saturday that while the video had not been brought to his attention, police monitoring the tense situation south of Durban had received no such report of a similar incident in the past week, debunking the belief that it was related to xenophobic violence in Durban. "We need to be careful about these things because videos like these can cause a panic. As of now we have no knowledge of this incident."

- Some people in the area heard about the attack on the 30-year-old and "took the law into their own hands" according to Mokgwabone.

- They were surrounded, assaulted and set alight.

-The police were called eventually and all five were taken to hospital.

- Four had severe burn wounds. The fifth was not seriously physically injured.

- Police did not charge them all at the time because they were were so severely injured.

- On 9 March, one of the five, a minor, died as a result of his injuries.

- On 10 March, another one of the five died.

- Two were still in hospital, to Mokgwapone's knowledge.

- The fifth person has been arrested and charged with the murder of the 30-year-old man they allegedly had the bar fight with. He has appeared in the Rustenburg Magistrate's Court between three to four times and will return to court on April 28.

- Police also arrested one person in connection with assaulting and setting the men alight. He has made several appearances in the Rustenburg Magistrate's Court to apply for bail and will return to court on May 5. His charges are attempted murder and murder.

- The five men who were assaulted and set alight are South African. To Mokgwabone's knowledge, one of the men was buried in the Eastern Cape.

- The 30-year-old who was assaulted and stoned to death was South African. Brigadier Thulani Ngubane, also a North West police spokesperson, said he had already clarified this before. Delinking the crime from xenophobia made it not better though, he said. People had to stop resorting to "mob justice" and "kangaroo courts" and let the police handle any crimes or suspicion of a crime.

The police's investigation may make different conclusions to those reached by the crowd who attacked the youths, he said. "There are mothers and fathers who really should have taken a step up and stopped it,"said Ngubane. In the video one woman appears to be trying to intervene, but she steps back into the crowd.
News24

http://news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411
PoliticsRe: South Africas Xenophobia Killers Arrested by osystein(m): 12:27am On Apr 21, 2015
Gofwane:
this is medicine after death. The peopl in that community are more of hypocrites.

Why did they not make any attempt to save that innocent man before he was killed in cold blood?
God knows i'm very bitter and angry with south african for doing such to human beings and a fellow black for that matter.

I was even more devastated after seeing that video they set some teens ablaze.

South africans have created a terrible relationship with other african countries. I only pity their citizens in other countries that might soon be attacked or even killed in those countries...SMH
As awful as that Video is, it is not xenophobic related as its reported, its an old Video showing vigilante mob setting youths who confessed to murder ablaze. Now its being misreported reported as xenophobic for whatever reason. Can you link to the video, to check if it the one I'm talking about.

here's the original story by a news agency about youths (not foreigners) who were set ablaze for murdering a men

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5-DB1X72Q
horrific case of mob justice played out in Rustenburg

an article explaining the misleading claim that it's xenophobia related.
Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia
http://news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411
PoliticsRe: Seven Killed, Scores Missing As Gunmen Attack Villages In Taraba by osystein(m): 12:06am On Apr 21, 2015
I fear that we'll see alot of these now that their own is CIC.
Foreign AffairsRe: See What South Africans Had To Say Concerning Xenophobia by osystein(mod): 9:35am On Apr 20, 2015
raydavinchi:
With my right hand on my big bold black chest, am proud to be a Nigerian and will fight to defend my country. All this xenophobic ish is All but jealousy. NIGERIANS are God in every thing we decide to do and what ever we lay our hand on is perfect. South Africans can never be like us and will never be better. We are the big brother to all other African countries despite our short comings. But I think it's high time we stood our grounds and say no to oppression where ever we may be in any part of the world. Say no to racism, no to segregation, no to discrimination. It time our system starts working for our Good and not for their pockets. How long shall we continue to suffer in the hands our government and when we go in search of greener pastures, we get bullied by other foreign nations. It is only in my country (Nigeria) that any dick and Harry come in illegally, misbehave to us, build missions and no body asks questions, kill a brother go squat free, due to lack of unemployment they turn us to slaves and turn our girls to slots and in their own countries, they drive us around like flies and kill our fellow brothers like chicken are been slaughtered every day. It's High time we put an end to this. Am Strong, Black and Bold I am a Nigerian, am an African and I stand to defend my family Nigeria.
say NO to xenophobia, say NO to Discrimination.
+100
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 11:35pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
But you opened a whole new thread about it? no? and why repost it into a new thread without doing your own research? opening a new thread separate from the current discussions = I am drawing more attention to this....
look, I wasn't the one who brought must go, go through the thread, must first post here was a reply to your comment about generalizing.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 11:29pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
I don't know what is sadder , the fact you break down the dead people into categories? SMH# 7 people died! they all matter! I don't care how many are black SOUTHAFRICANS or foreigners...death is death...

Again.. it is good that you had enough dignity to not deny you trying to ferment hate...but I guess you had no choice.. your post is in black and white and your comments after the post shows either your actual non understanding of the issues or butthurt malice towardsthe country, NIGERIA? SMH#

I think it is best you stay away from my post.. if you can not comprehend what is written in them.. respectfully keep off...You can TROLL ON NAIRA LAND....but respectfully don't tip toe towards my post.. I would not apologize for your lack of intellect...

I


PEACE#
What are you on about? I THINK you're the one who's being a troll.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 11:23pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
Not here , I think you opened a fresh thread at some point..

xenophobia is very topical these days due to the unfortunate events in SA.

LOME, Togo, Feb. 1— Tens of thousands of hungry and impoverished people who have been expelled from Nigeria hurried today along the seaside road that leads to the frontier with ghana at the edge of this normally quiet West African capital. The refugees, expelled for economic and political reasons by Nigeria, passed through Lome in taxis, cattle trucks and on foot, most of them men in their 20's, many of them carrying a single suitcase as they walked along the Atlantic coastal road. Some two million unskilled foreign workers living illegally in Nigeria were ordered to start leaving by Monday. At least half of them were Ghanaians, and others were from Mali, Chad, Niger, Upper Volta, Benin and Togo. Under international and African pressure, President Shehu Shagari of Nigeria extended the expulsion deadline for skilled foreigners, mostly schoolteachers, until March 1. President Shagari announced the expulsions Jan. 17, saying the foreigners were the cause of economic problems and religious and racial unrest. 16 Reported to Have Died In Lagos, the Nigerian capital, at least 16 people were reported to have died as a result of the forced exit. Six people drowned in the Lagos harbor Monday night trying to climb aboard overcrowded ships leaving for Accra, ghana 's capital. Ten refugees were said to have starved to death. At the frontier, Togolese guards let the refugees pass by the thousands without a check. A hundred yards away, by a concrete arch with the words ''Welcome to ghana '' in large letters, Ghanaian border guards appeared to be making only cursory inspections of the refugees as they entered. As one truck carrying perhaps 50 refugees crossed the border, the Ghanaians cheered -but not loudly, more in relief than joy. A boy waved a small Ghanaian flag from the back of the truck. http://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/02/world/by-land-and-sea-they-stream-from-nigeria.htm


correct me if am wrong? I apologize if I accused wrongly though
That was posted by a Ghanaian obrafour on one of the
xenophobia threads, I didn't know much about the saga before seeing that article. I open altleast 1 article each day on this, so posted that.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 11:12pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
The count is 7 not four.. THat is old news...

Wont more be dead.. The point here is...7 persons is not ONLY....This 7 persons come from homes..they are mothers, they brothers, they are fathers, they are sisters.. They are someones child..aunt, uncle..and so on and so forth...You can not communize any death.. you can't.. And it is not about the deaths only.. It is also about the loss of property/displacement/ livelihood/ dehumanization.. Thousands have been displaced...even the block head zuma visited some of the CAMPS!

On , having more dead if most South Africans want foreigners dead.. None ever said that. What is matter of fact is that a a good percentage of SAfricans are either passive xenophobes... or blood thirsty savages xenophobes.... I can define the two arms for you ..if you like...
7 in total, 4 foreigners, 3 south Africans.

This whole thing is tragic, don't think I'm in any way downplaying it, that king should be taken to the ICC, but this isn't the first time this has happened so the anti foreigner sentiment is big. I was just intrigued that you'd talk about not generalizing when that's all you ever do.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 11:03pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
Not surprised though ..you are the troll that was trying to bring MUST GO and comparing it with what is happening in South Africa,, Good people took you to school about the real history and not you trying to slip a lie and forment hate between ghanains and Nigerians... I can see you are butthurt....but that is not happening... 1969..remember...
You're mistaking me with someone else, where did I mention Ghana must on this thread.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mozambican man, Emmanuel Sithole Stabbed To Death In South Africa by osystein(mod): 10:52pm On Apr 19, 2015
RANDYMUDA:
Well...At this point in time.. The South Africans are living up to their stereotypes... Nothing to take as advice.... When you eff up in front of the world....like that..KILLing! other soles...You are regarded as clowns by the rest of the world...atleast at the moment... stop and we revert back...
Come on, 4 foreigners have been confirmed dead since this started, wouldn't more be dead if most wanted foreigners killed.

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