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V0lv0:So you'll be saying goodbye to Cape Town soon? Where will you be settling, Ghana, Europe or US. I wonder if donodion is still in Mzansi |
Isreal/mossad might the third force behind these xeno attacks, now south Africa has no moral standing to oppose Isreali apartheid. Mossad are behind this, my personal opinion. |
South Africans should just accept that their country doesn't belong to them, it belongs to the rest of Africa because Africa helped in fighting Apartheid. South Africa has enough room and Resources to accommodate all Africans seeking greener pastures in it. Closing borders is unAfrican. Africans must feel at home anywhere on the continent. All African countries must work together and destroy south Africa, how can a black man not welcome another black man, it's unheard off. Lets get our Chinese friends to nuke south Africa. |
VELES, Macedonia — A group of migrants trying to reach European opportunity via what’s billed by smugglers as a “safe” route — trekking along train tracks through the Balkans — was hit by an overnight train in a remote river gorge in Macedonia, killing 14. The deaths of the undocumented migrants from Africa and Asia underscore how, even as tens of thousands risk drowning in the Mediterranean to reach European shores, many others gamble with their lives by taking perilous overland journeys to reach Hungary, a popular back door to the 28-nation European Union. Railway officials said many of those killed Thursday night had stopped to rest after an exhausting hourslong hike and were sleeping on the tracks when the train plowed into them. The overland route from Greece through Macedonia and Serbia has soared in popularity over the past two years as migrants seek a less dangerous path than the sea crossing from North Africa to Italy. Trains killed 40 migrants last year, usually in groups of one or two, compared to the more than 1,300 lives lost in the Mediterranean over the past three weeks alone — a horrifying statistic that has put 2015 on track to be the deadliest year ever for the sea crossing. The Balkans smuggling route follows railway lines through most of the 125-mile (200-kilometer) hike through Macedonia, and authorities say it was only a question of time before so many trekkers would die in a single train accident. The rail line includes narrow wooden bridges and two long tunnels through mountains that can leave migrants trapped with no way of escape, as well as frequent riverside bends that conceal the sight and sounds of oncoming trains. Thursday’s accident occurred around 10:30 p.m. on a narrow stretch of tracks sandwiched between the Vardar River and a steep slope. The express train from Thessaloniki, Greece, to the Serbian capital of Belgrade was about six miles (10 miles) northwest of the central Macedonian town of Veles when the train’s engineer spotted a group of about 100 migrants on the tracks in the dark, 100 yards (meters) ahead. “At the time that the train struck the group of migrants, they were resting and sleeping on the tracks,” said Macedonian Railways manager Nikola Kostov. “The train driver honked and tried to stop, but it was too late and the train hit the group of migrants who weren’t able to leave the tracks.” Kostov said the train was observing the local speed limit and described the stretch of track as “dangerous and unapproachable” for pedestrians. Though Kostov did not give a precise speed, the schedule shows that the train does not typically travel quickly, taking more than 14 hours to cover 400 miles (645 kilometers), averaging just 28 mph (45 kph). Authorities said the 14 dead appeared to be mostly Somalis and Afghans in their 20s, though other details remained uncertain — not surprising, given that migrants often travel without IDs to complicate deportation efforts if caught. Somalis and Afghans are among the top nationalities using the Balkans route, along with Syrians fleeing civil war in their homeland. Police detained nine migrants who remained at the scene Friday morning and questioned them about what happened and the identities of the dead. They said survivors described clambering up rocky slopes or clinging to bushes on the riverbank to escape the train. The Veles prosecutor, Slavica Temelkovski, said the detained migrants were mostly relatives or friends of the dead and had identified themselves and the victims as being from Somalia and Afghanistan. Tentative plans were put in place to bury the dead Saturday at Veles’ Muslim cemetery on the presumption that, barring authentication to the contrary, all came from predominantly Muslim countries. “This city is in disbelief,” said Veles Mayor Slavco Cadiev. He said Veles residents over the past year had grown used to seeing hundreds of migrants pass through the town at once, usually sticking close to the rail lines. Veterans of the Balkans route have told The Associated Press that following the train tracks in Macedonia is one of the most nerve-racking parts of what can be a monthslong journey involving detentions and deportations back to Greece to start the journey over. Smugglers usually instruct migrants to travel the tracks at night, despite the increased risk of being hit by trains, because they are less likely to be spotted by authorities in the darkness. For many, the Balkans route starts in Turkey, where migrants pack into small boats that are often piloted by migrants themselves and abandoned once they reach the nearest Greek island. That journey, because of overcrowding and the inexperience of boat operators, is often the most dangerous part of the journey — a reality underscored this week when a wooden trawler carrying about 90 migrants broke up as it ran aground on the Greek island of Rhodes, killing three on board, including a boy. Since February, the AP has followed a group of 45 West African migrants using the Balkans route. As they gathered at the Macedonian border in March, a smuggler warned they could easily be killed by a train if they didn’t break up into small groups with a spotter at the front and the back, to shout alerts to the others. When walking at night on the tracks, migrants say, it can be hard to distinguish the wooden ties from stony gaps, never mind tell where the river is and how steep the falls might be on either side. Painful dives and tumbles into mud or gravel to avoid trains are common. “When trains come, they don’t honk. It’s woods. There’s nobody there,” said Hamed Kouyate, an 18-year-old from Ivory Coast who completed the Balkans route this month after a two-week trek, a brief police detention and other setbacks. Kouyate said all members of his group struggled to see in the often moonless night and many suffered injuries from falls. He said they often were slow to react to trains because of mental and physical exhaustion. At one point, he said, one woman with an injured foot had to be pushed by others out of the way of an oncoming train. “When you’re on the tracks, you’re afraid all the time,” he said in a telephone interview from France, where he arrived this week. “You’re afraid because from one minute to the next, there might be a train.” |
NEW YORK- A group of Swedish law enforcement officers who were vacationing in the United States broke up a fight on a New York subway. Erik Naslund, Samuel Kvarzell, Markus Asberg and Eric Jansberger were headed to see a Broadway performance of "Les Miserables" on Wednesday when a brawl broke out between two men on a crowded train. CBS New York's radio affiliate 1010 WINSreports the train operator took to the intercom to see if there were any police officers on the train. The Swedish officers then stepped up to the plate. Police say the four held one of the brawlers until New York Police Department officers responded and took him to a hospital. The Swedish officers went on their way. But witnesses captured the scene on video. New York City Police Commissioner William Bratton said Friday that he's grateful the Swedes stepped in and broke up the fight. The four men were treated to a tour of NYPD headquarters Thursday and were getting a ride on a police boat Friday. |
Bujumbura - Burundi's government on Friday announced a nationwide ban on demonstrations following threats by the opposition and activists to step up protests against controversial plans by the president to seek re-election. President Pierre Nkurunziza is widely expected to launch his campaign for a third term in office during a ruling party congress on Saturday, defying what opponents say is a two-term limit set out in the constitution as well as the peace deal that ended Burundi's civil war in 2006. There are fears that the move, coupled with mounting allegations that Nkurunziza's CNDD-FDD party is intimidating opponents, could push the small central African nation back into violence. Burundi's interior minister said the ban on protests would be effective on Saturday. "The government forbids any demonstration for whatever reason anywhere in the country," Edouard Nduwimana announced. Opposition parties and civil society groups are campaigning for the president not to run again and have threatened to take to the streets. The government has also already warned that it could call out the army. The influential Catholic Church has also spoken out against the president's expected attempt to stay put, and earlier this month UN rights chief Zeid Ra'ad Al Hussein warned that the country was at a "crossroads" between a fair vote and a route back to its "horrendously violent past". Presidential elections in Burundi are scheduled to be held on June 26. Burundi's constitution only allows a president to be elected twice - for a total of 10 years in power - but Nkurunziza argues he has only been directly elected by the people once. For his first term, beginning in 2005, he was selected by parliament. The opposition boycotted the last elections in 2010, alleging fraud. AFP |
Legalize the damn thing, it isnt worse than alcohol. |
kandiikane:the good thing is that the horrific pictures and videos however fake will cause a big backlash against the violence. |
FLYFIRE:Video us not xenophobi. see. They're not foreigners https://www.nairaland.com/2268102/youths-burnt-alive-south-africa |
kandiikane:absolutely, primitive people all over. there's the story about a foreign child attacked by xenophobes, also fake. here's where the image was sourced http://www.politicsweb.co.za/iservice/rubber-bullet-did-this--daily-sun . child is south african who was hit by a stray rubber bullet during service delivery protest. infact most of the images arent related to current xenophobia or south africa. Fake photos misrepresent xenophobic violence http://ewn.co.za/2015/04/17/Fake-photos-misrepresenting-xenophobic-violence Internet boasts false images of xenophobic violence in South Africa http://observers.france24.com/content/20150417-south-africa-durban-immigrant-xenophobic-false-photos |
Dahjhi:those gruesome images are fake, and that child is south african, she was short in a service deilivery protest in january check this link. where that image was sourced from. http://www.politicsweb.co.za/iservice/rubber-bullet-did-this--daily-sun |
still seeing this so called xeno[phobic video posted here. |
stillchris:So why were their European brothers so advanced compared to Africans in the first place, why weren't Africans the ones assisting their African brothers develop in Europe. Seeing that most AA are of igbo descent, why do they perform so badly compared to other groups in psychometric tests in the US. You can't really compare the top Nigerian students with the average cohort in the developed countries really. |
stillchris:but still, they have to be the smartest creature on the continent, would you say non-Africans are better than Africans, considering. |
stillchris:does it mean the south african(white) is the smartest creature on the continent? |
clemz88:were you the other poster? |
clemz88:FP |
PatrykUtulu Who's the man in the pic. |
Ugandan comedian. |
babanibabatoyin:?? |
Addis Ababa - Ethiopia began three days of national mourning on Tuesday, with joint Christian and Muslim prayers for more than 20 Ethiopian Christians killed by Islamic State militants in Libya. The murders have horrified Ethiopians and sparked global condemnation, including from Pope Francis who expressed "great distress and sadness" over the murders. "They are animals, they are outside of all humanity," said Tesfaye Wolde, who saw his brother Balcha Belete executed on a video released by the militants. "I saw him kneeling, a masked man pointing a gun to my brother and his friend, with a knife to their throats." "We have a duty to raise our voice to tell the world that the killing of the innocent like animals is completely unacceptable," said Abune Mathias, the patriarch of the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church. "Their actions are repugnant." Joint prayers were held along with Muslim leaders, led by Sheikh Mohammed Jemal, head of Ethiopia's Islamic Affairs Supreme Council, who said the killing of people like "chickens" had no place in Islam. Masked fighter in black The ISIS video, released on Sunday, showed militants in Libya holding captives who they described as "followers of the cross from the enemy Ethiopian Church". A masked fighter in black brandishing a pistol makes a statement threatening Christians if they do not convert to Islam. The video shows one group of about 12 men being beheaded on a beach and another group of at least 16 being shot in the head in a desert area. "If IS were religious, they would never have killed human beings," said Kedir Hussein, a Muslim who attended the joint prayers, adding "the death of these young people is like someone was killed in my family". Almost two-thirds of Ethiopians are Christians, the majority of those Orthodox Copts - who say they have been in the Horn of Africa nation since the first century AD - as well as large numbers of Protestants. slam also has an ancient history in Ethiopia, brought to the country by some of the earliest followers of the Prophet Mohammed, who were sheltered there by the Christian king. Executed before attempting crossing Tesfaye described how his brother Balcha, an electrician, as well as his friend Eyasu Yekuneamelak - also seen killed on the video - left Ethiopia two months ago seeking work and a better life, heading first for Sudan. "He left for Libya to go to Italy," he said, speaking to a small crowd who had come to offer their condolences, outside his brick house in the capital Addis Ababa. But the pair, who left Ethiopia without telling their family, were captured by IS fighters before they could risk the dangerous sea crossing to Europe, where thousands have drowned in rickety boats. "They wanted to change their lives, improve their condition - life is very difficult here," said Mersha Mitku, a friend of both men. He knows at least 25 others who took the same route to Libya. Six made it safely to Italy, but he has no news from the others. Europe's southern shores have been swamped with migrants fleeing war and hardship, hundreds of whom have died in a string of tragic shipwrecks. An estimated 800 people drowned on Sunday off Libya in the Mediterranean's worst migrant disaster. More than 11 000 migrants have been rescued by Italian authorities since the middle of last week alone. "Maybe this story will discourage some for some time, but not for long," Mersha said. AFP |
I've been seeing a very graphic video being posted here for several days now by many people, claiming to show foreign youths being set ablaze by a xenophobic mob. The video really shocked me. The video though is misleading, it's not related to xenophobia, the youths are South Africans. the true story behind the video is that the youths were lynched and set ablaze after confessing to stoning a man to death, it was later picked up by someone and misreported as showing a xenophobic mob burning immigrants. This doesn't in anyway justify the brutality and primitiveness of the event, but it puts the incident in context. Here's the original YouTube footage of the incident reported by news back in march. how a horrific case of mob justice played out in Rustenburg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5-DB1X72Q&app=desktop&persist_app=1&client=mv-google&gl=KE&hl=en-GB Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia Johannesburg - North West police said on Saturday ahorrific video that has gone viralof a group of young men being necklaced and burnt alive in South Africa was in no way linked to xenophobic attacks and was not an attack on Zimbabweans as suggested on social media. It was however, vigilantism in retaliation for a bar fight death in Sondela informal settlement in Rustenburg on 7 March. "It has nothing to do with Durban and nothing to do with xenophobia," said Colonel Sabatha Mokgwabone, spokesperson for North West police. "There is no way we can say the two are linked," he said, referring to attacks on foreign nationals in Durban this past week, the most recent being the petrol bombing of two Ethiopians in the container they used as a shop and sleeping quarters in Umlazi. The shocking video was seized upon on social media on Saturday morning as evidence of the violence against foreign nationals this week as xenophobic tension in South Africa rises. But the truth behind the footage is quite different. The video records an incident in Rustenburg in March and neither the victims, nor the alleged perpetrators are foreigners. l Sabatha said nobody seemed to pay much attention to police reports of the 7 March attack on the five youths in Sondela until public broadcaster SABC was given footage, and it went viral. According to Mokgwabone, this is what is known by police of the events leading up to the attack on the five men, and what happened afterwards: - On 7 March five youths were in a tavern in Sondela in Rustenburg and an argument started between them and a 30-year-old man. - The fight was broken up and they were separated, but later, the five came across the 30-year-old man in the streets and started throwing stones at him and assaulting him with other "'instruments''. - The 30-year-old man was taken to Tlhabane Clinic, but he was certified dead on arrival. Durban police spokesperson Major Thulani Zwane said on Saturday that while the video had not been brought to his attention, police monitoring the tense situation south of Durban had received no such report of a similar incident in the past week, debunking the belief that it was related to xenophobic violence in Durban. "We need to be careful about these things because videos like these can cause a panic. As of now we have no knowledge of this incident." - Some people in the area heard about the attack on the 30-year-old and "took the law into their own hands" according to Mokgwabone. - They were surrounded, assaulted and set alight. -The police were called eventually and all five were taken to hospital. - Four had severe burn wounds. The fifth was not seriously physically injured. - Police did not charge them all at the time because they were were so severely injured. - On 9 March, one of the five, a minor, died as a result of his injuries. - On 10 March, another one of the five died. - Two were still in hospital, to Mokgwapone's knowledge. - The fifth person has been arrested and charged with the murder of the 30-year-old man they allegedly had the bar fight with. He has appeared in the Rustenburg Magistrate's Court between three to four times and will return to court on April 28. - Police also arrested one person in connection with assaulting and setting the men alight. He has made several appearances in the Rustenburg Magistrate's Court to apply for bail and will return to court on May 5. His charges are attempted murder and murder. - The five men who were assaulted and set alight are South African. To Mokgwabone's knowledge, one of the men was buried in the Eastern Cape. - The 30-year-old who was assaulted and stoned to death was South African. Brigadier Thulani Ngubane, also a North West police spokesperson, said he had already clarified this before. Delinking the crime from xenophobia made it not better though, he said. People had to stop resorting to "mob justice" and "kangaroo courts" and let the police handle any crimes or suspicion of a crime. The police's investigation may make different conclusions to those reached by the crowd who attacked the youths, he said. "There are mothers and fathers who really should have taken a step up and stopped it,"said Ngubane. In the video one woman appears to be trying to intervene, but she steps back into the crowd. News24 http://news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411 |
Gofwane:As awful as that Video is, it is not xenophobic related as its reported, its an old Video showing vigilante mob setting youths who confessed to murder ablaze. Now its being misreported reported as xenophobic for whatever reason. Can you link to the video, to check if it the one I'm talking about. here's the original story by a news agency about youths (not foreigners) who were set ablaze for murdering a men https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn5-DB1X72Q horrific case of mob justice played out in Rustenburg an article explaining the misleading claim that it's xenophobia related. Viral video shows vigilantism, not xenophobia http://news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/Viral-video-shows-vigilantism-not-xenophobia-police-20150411 |
I fear that we'll see alot of these now that their own is CIC. |
raydavinchi:+100 |
RANDYMUDA:look, I wasn't the one who brought must go, go through the thread, must first post here was a reply to your comment about generalizing. |
RANDYMUDA:What are you on about? I THINK you're the one who's being a troll. |
RANDYMUDA:That was posted by a Ghanaian obrafour on one of the xenophobia threads, I didn't know much about the saga before seeing that article. I open altleast 1 article each day on this, so posted that. |
RANDYMUDA:7 in total, 4 foreigners, 3 south Africans. This whole thing is tragic, don't think I'm in any way downplaying it, that king should be taken to the ICC, but this isn't the first time this has happened so the anti foreigner sentiment is big. I was just intrigued that you'd talk about not generalizing when that's all you ever do. |
RANDYMUDA:You're mistaking me with someone else, where did I mention Ghana must on this thread. |
RANDYMUDA:Come on, 4 foreigners have been confirmed dead since this started, wouldn't more be dead if most wanted foreigners killed. |
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