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Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 11:42pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
Utter hocus-pocus. You are not sure of what you are saying.





Can you, otematum, set this air in motion. Can you, on your own, create this pressure at one point and then move it to another point, you being all-powerful and all?
I am not all-powerful, but my power is a thousand times more than the power of YHVH your god. I am a very conscious part of God Almighty at this moment and the concentration of God Almighty in me is far far more than the concentration of God Almighty in YHVH your god. Even with a scientific device, I can create the pressure and move it to another point. I do science, not lies like your god.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 11:38pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
Otematum, do you know why I love YHVH El Shaddai, my Father in heaven (Daddy in the sky)? He does not speak or act I'm secret.

Isaiah 45:22-24 Turn to me now and be saved, people all over the world! I am the only God there is. My promise is true, and it will not change. I solemnly swear by all that I am: Everyone will come and kneel before me and vow to be loyal to me. They will say only through me are victory and strength to be found; but all who hate me will suffer disgrace.

Isaiah 44:25 I make fools of fortune tellers and frustrate the predictions of astrologers. The words of the wise I refute and show that their wisdom is foolishness.
So when did Isaiah become your god? You said I should read the book of Isaiah, an Israelite. The book of Luwabi, Ofo, Bongo, etc our local books are here for me to read, you are telling me to read the Book of A Liar. undecided

Well, currently YHVH your god is in a spiritual cage where his godmates have subjected him to. He'll be there for a millennium. May the Light of God Almighty which created YHVH your god reveal the truth to you. Aseeeeee!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Tottenham Hotspur (2 - 1) On 4th December 2019 by OtemAtum: 11:35pm On Dec 04, 2019
OyiboOyibo:
Prophet of doom
I want Tottenham to win is what I said. I didn't say that Tottenham will win.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 11:26pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
Otematum, you wrote:

YHVH didn't make the world, God Almighty did through the GREAT BANG. When the world was brought into this physical existence by God, I was in God as an unconscious soul.

There's no pillar supporting the earth. The earth is somehow spherical in shape and it is held up there by gravity.

My response:

YHVH Almighty is God Almighty ( El Shaddai).

He created the heavens, the earth, the seas and all that is in them, but it was not through or by big, small or great or whatever bang.

YHVH Almighty has established the pillars of the earth and there is nothing you or anyone can do or say to change that.

This is not about spherical or flatness of the earth.
Lol. Pillars holding the earth? Abeg don't make me over laugh grin
YHVH is not God Almighty. He is not up to 0.0000000000000000000000000000 00000000000001% of what God Almighty is.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 11:25pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
Otematum wrote: "The rain comes from the cloud. The dew comes from moisture in the air. So if we want to ascribe fathers to them literary, we say that the father of the rain is the cloud while the father of the dew is the moisture in the atmosphere."


My response:

YHVH Almighty, who makes the clouds his chariots and rides on the winds of the wind, owns the rain.
YHVH does not even know how the rain comes about. He's clueless about the making of rain.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 9:43pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
This is outrageous. You resorted to science? Things invented by mere mortals just few hundreds of years ago?

Any one who takes you and the not-even-qualified-to-be-fiction seriously is even more delusional than you.
Science began with the gods (first beings) but some of them like Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, Mazda etc lost focus and began religion instead of science. Then science was suppressed for sometimes. Then science began again until the past world became destroyed. Then came the homo sapiens world 282,019 years ago. Science was not extensively practised until about 300 years back. Science is actually the true method of studying and knowing more about God(Totality of Existence). I will give you references revealing the practise of science for as long as 4 billion years back in the periods of the early beings.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool Vs Everton (5 - 2) On 4th December 2019 by OtemAtum: 5:45pm On Dec 04, 2019
Everton, do something pls cry
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Manchester United Vs Tottenham Hotspur (2 - 1) On 4th December 2019 by OtemAtum: 5:45pm On Dec 04, 2019
I want Tottenham to trash Man United. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Chelsea Vs Aston Villa (2 - 1) On 4th December 2019 by OtemAtum: 5:44pm On Dec 04, 2019
Go Chelsea, go Chelsea!!!
KTBFFH
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 5:26pm On Dec 04, 2019
elated177:
Don't get me wrong. I am a physicist. What I asked you is secondary school physics. There is a kind of discussion I wanted to have with you, also with those atheists, but I will suspend it for now.


Answer these questions:

1. Why have you refused to use the names 'YHVH' and 'Yahushua' in your responses?
I'm used to using Yahweh. But with you, I'll start using YHVH and Yahushua.

[quote author= ]2. Did you or did you not say that a person could get guidance from his or her ancestors?[/quote]It's possible.

[quote author= ]3. If you are sure of your assertions, why haven't you taken them beyond this faceless forum? What is stopping you and otem?[/quote]First of all, once you make yourself popular, then you get distracted and you won't be able to do as much as you want to do. Taking it to all kinds of forums will put much pressure on me and hence, a lot of distractions. Secondly, the things I am revealing now is mostly needed by the people from year 2625 upwards. So it's not late if from now till year 2050 only 1000 people are aware of it. I don't even want more than 1,000 people knowing about this in this generation of ours. This truth should take over gradually, not spontaneously.

[quote author= ]4. Where does the wind come from and where does go?[/quote]Wind is just air in motion. Air is part of the components of the earth, made available right from the period of the great bang. The air apply pressure which is called air pressure. Air molecules move from a region of a relatively high air pressure to a region with lower pressure. So wind direction can be determined by air pressure.

[quote author= ]5. Where were you, otematum, when YHVH El Shaddai made the world?[/b] YHVH didn't make the world, God Almighty did through the GREAT BANG. When the world was brought into this physical existence by God, I was in God as an unconscious soul.

[quote author= ]6. What holds up the pillars that support the earth?[/quote]There's no pillar supporting the earth. The earth is somehow spherical in shape and it is held up there by gravity. For example, an aeroplane in the sky isn't held by a pillar, or is it? huh

[quote author= ]7.Does either the rain or the dew have a father?[/quote]The rain comes from the cloud. The dew comes from moisture in the air. So if we want to ascribe fathers to them literary, we say that the father of the rain is the cloud while the father of the dew is the moisture in the atmosphere.

[quote author= ]8.Can you tie the Pleiades together or loosen the bonds that hold the Orion?[/quote]No. It's an occurrence of nature and only if join a team of scientists and determine to do so can that be done, maybe over a billion years from now. There's nothing science can't achieve, but it could take ages.

[quote author= ]9.Can you shout orders to the clouds and make them drench you with rain?[/quote]If I want to achieve that, I will use the scientific method. A remote control will be with me and a device will be placed in the cloud to trigger a spontaneous action immediately after clicking the button on my remote control.

[quote author= ]10. And if you command the lightning to flash, will it come to you and say, " At your service"?[/quote]If I want to achieve this, I will go the scientific way. Electric charges generated through the use of electric devices will achieve this.

[quote author= ]11. Are you, otematum, wise enough to count the clouds and tilt them over to pour out the rain, rain that hardens the dust into lumps?[/quote]All these can be achieved through science if that's my area of interest. But doing all these unprofitable stunts is not what I am sent to the world to do.

[quote author= ]12. Are you as strong as YHVH? Can your voice thunder as loud as his?[/quote]I am a thousand times stronger than YHVH at this moment. YHVH cannot voice out thunder. Whatever thunder you have thought he voiced out is a great lie you read up in the bible(the book of lies). I dare YHVH to strike me down and paralyse me with thunder now as I am typing. He is even currently held unconscious in his spiritual cage.

[quote author= ]13. Who owns thunder? Can you, otematum, make it roar in the heavens? Can you, otematum, make it roar on a very hot, sunny afternoon?[/quote]God Almighty (Totality of Existence) owns thunder. It owns YHVH your god also. It owns me and you as well. If I want to make thunder roar, I will join scientists whose interest is in making thunder roar in a very hot afternoon. But once again, that's not my area of interest. The History of the Universes is my area of interest as well as declaring the imprisonment of YHVH your god to the world while setting the world free from mind slavery.

[quote author= ]14. Can you detect the direction of the the wind and can you exercise any influence on its direction?[/quote]Yes that one is simple. With my windvane, I can detect the direction of the wind. I can even record the speed of the wind with my anemometer. I can influence the direction of the wind by raising the air pressure of one area above the other.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Yahweh Turned Himself To A BASTAR*D by OtemAtum: 2:42pm On Dec 04, 2019
k2money:
This guy stop fighting for this your god the way the Christians and Muslims do, if he's that powerful he will use his power to change everybody to do his will the same advice to all religious people
I don't fight for Atum, I'm just writing down the truth of the universes as revealed to me. Thanks anyway.
Christianity Etc › Re: Time Jehovah Has Spent In His SPIRITUAL Prison by OtemAtum(op): 8:22am On Dec 04, 2019
Jehovah has spent 3 years, 3 months, 1 week and 4 days in his spiritual cage. The Age of Aquarius is fully here.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:22pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter One Hundred and Four

1. Now Ohida lived in Koto from his childhood till old age. And he lived among the other grandchildren of the king. And no one knew that he was not a grandson of the king. And Ohida loved the making of sculptures with clay and kaolin.
2. And Ohida moulded different sculptures. And by the former sculptures of his ancestors, he made many different ones to preserve the images of his ancestors.
3. And Ohida made statues of homos riding on horses. He made also sculptures from wood. And all the works of Ohida were much loved and appreciated. And some came from Edosun and other places West and South to buy those things.
4. And Ohida made images upon the rocks. And many lands invited him to come into their lands to make sculptures and to make images upon their rocks also.
5. And Ohida went to Tampa and to Ida and Ubini and made drawings of different artworks. And Ohida had five children. And he named some of them after the tools with which he made his crafts.
6. And one he named Ira with which he made his clay pots and ceramics hard and another was named Ozoza because all the sculptures and mortars and pestles which he made that year were very beautiful. And he named his third child Ovovu because the Koto homos had made him the father of many by awarding him the chieftancy title of Adovovu, meaning the father of many families.
7. For in those days, they conferred such title upon whoever was much loved by many people from different families. And Ohida being loved by both the Kotoans and the homos of Otori and other tribes was conferred with the title.
8. And Ohida made masks from woods and clays. And he made designs with cowries also. And all the works of Ohida spoke well for him in Koto.
9. And Ohida made sure he wasted nothing. For he knew how to make wealth from a single tree which he had cut down. The bark of the tree was sold to the women of Edosun and Yomesi who made herbs with them.
10. The wood of the tree he used to make mortars and pestles and masks and shields and garments of wars and all kinds of craftworks. The roots of the tree he sold to the women of Edoma who made medicines with the roots.
11. And Ohida became very rich in Koto. And many people of the land benefitted much from his wealth.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:19pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter One Hundred and Two

1. Now the next morning, Onini and Anoze did not show up to witness the coronation. And their parents looked for them but did not see them. And the kingmaker said, be cheerful because even Ododoodo their father did not choose any of them to be king after him. But Epe his third son dis he choose.
2. And the kingmaker presented the bracelet of Epe which had on it the sign of the King. And the elders confirmed it. And Epe became the king of Otori.
3. Now in the first year of the reign of Epe as the king of Otori, he married a very beautiful woman. And she got pregnant and gave birth to a male child. And Epe loved the child very much because he was his own blood child.
4. And Epe began to look at Ohida his kid brother with evil eyes, saying, this child shall contend for the throne after my death. And he shall deny my own blood son from becoming the king.
5. And Epe commanded his servants to kill all his brothers. And they went to search for Onini and Anoze to kill them. But they could not find them. And they killed Asuku who was the third son of Epemiro.
6. And when Epemiro heard it, she cursed Epe her son. And the servants of Epe came to Echozi the princess of Koto and said, we have come to kill your son who is the brother of the King. For he has ordered that we should kill all his brothers.
7. And Echozi said, Ohida is a son to Epe and not a brother at all. For what brother can a thirty year old homo be to a five year old child? Go and tell the king that Ohida is not his brother but his son.
8. Now the servants returned to the king to tell him what Echozi his wife had said. And the king said, go and kill the child and bring his head to me. For he is not my child but one of my brothers. Bring him to me and I shall wipe his face with epe and kill him by myself.
9. And the servants returned hastily to fetch Ohida the son of Echozi, but they could not find both the mother and the child. For they had fled quickly upon a horse.
10. And Epe was angry such that he killed those servants. And he exiled their family too.
11. Now Echozi went back to Koto and told her father what had befallen her and her son in the hands of Epe the son of Ododoodo of the land of Otori.
12. And the king said, did I not suspect that Epe was trying to use us to get to the kingship position of his land? For I felt it when he married you, his father's wife and accepted Ohida your son and his brother as his own child. And when I told you this, you said to me that you shall commit suicide if I do not grant your wish.
13. And because I gear not to lose you, I went so low to bribe the kingmaker. And all these I did to please you. Now have you come again, saying, Epe sought after your life and the life of your son.
14. And Echozi said, help me this one more time before the year comes to an end. For at the celebration of my birthday this end of the year, I desire to see the blood of Epe in the gourd.
15. For as he killed Asuku his gentle brother, so shall I be glad to see that he is killed also.
16. Now when Echozi continued to disturb her father, he agreed and prepared men of war to go and attack the land of Otori at night and take their king away. And so fifty strong homos of Koto went and took Epe secretly at night.
17. And they brought him to Koto before Echozi and Ohida her son. And Echozi said, I shall avenge your cruelty towards me and my son. And I shall avenge also the death of Asuku your brother whom you kill. For he died even when he did not desire the throne.
18. This you did out of your cruelty and greed. Now I shall kill you myself and bath with your blood on the day of my birthday next week. For that shall be the reward for your cruelty towards me and Ohida my only son.
19. And Epe pleaded for mercy but Echozi did not grant him. And she killed Epe as she had said and did with his blood according to what she had said.
20. Now the king of Koto paid the kingmaker another visit and told him to correct his ways. And the kingmaker said, this is a big shame to me. For it is not possible for me to denounce my first speech and say to them, the king did not choose Epe as king earlier.
21. And the king of Koto said, do it and we shall grant you asylum in Koto. And we shall give you land and house and servants. And the kingmaker went and fetched the bracelets of Onini and Anoze which were wound together by the king. And he showed it to them all.
22. And they were surprised how the kingmaker had covered up the truth before, for he was thought to be a very righteous homo before.
23. And he fled to Koto on horseback. And the king of Koto did as he had promised him.


Chapter One Hundred and Three
1. Now the homos of Otori land began to seek after Anoze and Onini to make them kings. And for six months they had no king in Otori, for they had said, there shall be no king except the two whom Ododoodo had chosen.
2. And some factions set themselves apart and said, we cannot wait. And they made a king for themselves and named their land Ubagidi. And the king which they chose was named Okimu.
3. Now some homos came to say that they had found Onini and Anoze in a land beside the waters. And they went and fetched them. And they made them kings over the land of Otori. And they were the first to rule the land as two kings in one palace.
4. And they complemented one another. And Onini was he who stood before the chiefs. And he spoke the minds of Anoze his blind half brother to them. And whenever he was angry, he went to seek the counsel of Anoze his brother. And Anoze would counsel him on what to do.
5. Now the homos of many lands began to come to Otori to learn from them. And they came from Ubini and from Irezote and Otipo and even in the lands where the Jukuites were many. And the Idanese came also.
6. And the yoobans said, we have in proverbs that two kings cannot reign together in the palace at once. How is it possible in your own palace here? And Anoze said, the reasons why human beings are on earth is to make impossible things become possible.
7. For as the tongue and the teeth dwell together in peace in the pool of the mouth, so is it possible for anything difficult to be achieved.
8. For we are made to bend what is straight and straighten what is bent. For there is nothing that cannot be achieved. For even an Ebirite can marry an Igalite as long as they have love in common.
9. And it is possible to come out of this earth as long as we can think of what to do to lift us higher than the mountains.
10. Friendship and agreement should not only exist between people of the same status, but it should exist between everyone who has the breath in his nostrils. Patience is needed also when things are being done.
11. For an impatient cook shall finish the food while it is still on fire. And he shall complain of stomach pain because he has eaten an undone food. So is the case of Epe who went and tasted the throne when it is undone. And he died prematurely within one year of his reign.
12. So let peace and patience flow together. And whatever is for you shall not go away from you. For the power of nature and coincidences shall bring to everyone whatever is for him.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:16pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter One Hundred and One

1. Ododoodo was a king who was loved for his great humility. And in his humility, he said to the people, make no throne for me. Let me sit on the ipeku which you also sit upon. I am a drummer who went about to beat the drum and I shall remain as a drummer.
2. For I am first a drummer before becoming a king. And I shall not cease to beat the drum.
3. Now take the apete and keep it as a sacred seat. And only in the days of festivities shall I sit upon it.
4. Now Ododoodo had two wives. And the name of the first was Onyareyi while the name of the second was Epemiro. And Onyareyi gave birth to five children. And her first four children were female while the last was a male. And the name of her last child was Onini.
5. Now also, Epemiro had three children. And they were all male children. And the name of the first was Anoze and the second was Epe and the third was Asuku.
6. Now Onyareyi and Epemiro began to quarrel, for they were not sure which of their children would be made heir by the king. For Onyareyi was the first wife, but her only son was the second son of the king, because she did not give birth to a male child quickly.
7. And the first son of Epemiro was blind at birth. And she was worried, saying, I fear that the king shall not agree to make him king after him.
8. Now Epemiro sought the mind of Ododoodo her husband. And he said, the matter of who shall be king after me should be left out for now. Am I not the king whom you have? Shall we fight the fight of tomorrow today?
9. What if we do not wake up to see that tomorrow?
10. Now Ododoodo called Anoze and Onini when they were of age, being about twenty-five and twenty-four years respectively. And he asked them which of them would be the king. And they were in the presence of their parents.
11. And Anoze said, let Onini my younger brother be king. For he is complete. For he has eyes to see. And Onini said, let Anoze my elder brother be king, for he is more patient than me.
12. And Ododoodo wept when he had heard the sayings of his first two sons. And he said to their mother, if everybody in the world can be as selfless as Onini and Anoze my sons, there shall be no thieves, nor murderers. Neither shall there be jealousy nor war.
13. And Ododoodo vowed to himself in the secret, saying, I shall make sure the two of them become king together.
14. Now Ododoodo told the homo who chose kings what he wanted. And he gave him two bracelets which he had tied together, saying, these are the bracelets of my two sons which I have tied together.
15. Show it to them after I am dead. For with it shall they know that they have been chosen to be the kings after me.
16. Now Ododoodo married another wife, who was the princess of the land of Koto. For the king of the land was a descendant of Obaji who was an Uvoites many years before. And when the land of Koto and the land of Obaji were allies, the families of Obaji lived with the Kotoans until they were made kings in Koto.
17. Now the name of the Kotoan whom Ododoodo married was Echozi. And the son of Echozi was Ohida.
18. And Ododoodo died five years after his last son was born. And Epe the second son of Epemiro married the last wife of his father, for he thought that by her support, he shall become the king.
19. And Epe told Echozi, saying, use your influence to see that I become the king of this land. And I shall take good care of Ohida your son. And after me shal he be made king.
20. And Echozi saw that the plan was good, for she said, Ohida my son has no chance at all to be crowned king in the future. For he has four brothers before him. And the children of his brothers are even older than him.
21. Now I shall make sure Epe is crowned king so that he shall make Ohida king after him. So Echozi went to the land of Koto see his father. And the king of Koto came to the land of Otori and went to see the kingmaker whom Ododoodo had committed the bracelets into his hands. And he said, make sure that Epe is crowned king.
22. And he gave the kingmaker twenty servants and three beautiful ladies to make his wives. And he gave him precious stones also. And the kingmaker said to Echozi, bring the bracelet of your husband secretly. And she brought it.
23. Now when the day was drawing close for the king to be made, Onini and Anoze began to feel uncomfortable. And they feared that one of them would be picked to be king. And on the eve of the coronation, Onini went to Anoze his brother and said, I am leaving this land tonight. For I cannot be king.
24. And Anoze said, take me with you. For I have thought of fleeing this land also, but because I am blind, I cannot do so.
25. And Onini took Anoze with him. And they fled the land together that evening.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:13pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter One Hundred
1. In the ninth year of Eva as the king of Otori, the son of Ituno whose name was Oveze became the king of Igara. And he sent homos to the land of Otori so that they might learn the knowledge of the land.
2. Now they dwelt in the land of Otori for two months, learning the art of magic, for Eva was a great illusionist. And Eva taught them the things which they would say to hypnotise. And he thought them how the heads of the homos work also.
3. And Eva said, the things which you do not know how I do are the things which are magic to you. But if I teach you and you know how to do them yourself, then they become ordinary to you also.
4. For to a magician there is no magic at all.
5. Now Eva taught them how to ignite fire by the spitting of water from their mouth to the fire. But this he did by spitting out fuel upon the fire, but they thought that he had spat out water which he drank.
6. For Eva had said, fetch me that gourd of water. And when they gave it to him, he drank it and left some in his mouth. And this he spat upon the fire. And the fire was rekindled. And they taught that it was water from his mouth that had rekindled the fire, but they did not know that it was a concentrated wine.
7. And Eva said, do you think that this is done by the power of a god? And they said, yes. And he said, I have done this by my own manner of reasoning. For I have made you believe that what was in the gourd was water when I said to you, fetch me the gourd of water.
8. But it is concentrated wine that I have kept in it. And that did I put in my mouth and spit out.
9. And the homos left with much wisdom. And the land of Otori became well known the more. And some homos came from Oomu and Oye to learn wisdom also.
10. Now Eva grew very old and did not die. And his eldest son was in haste to become king. And he called his brothers and said, let us kill our father and I shall be king. And I shall make you my brothers sit on my right and on my left hands.
11. And his brothers rejected immediately. And they went to tell their father. And Eva said, you have disappointed me Ahe my son. For I know that I shall not stay longer than a week before I shall die. For the dreams which I have often are about my ancestors beckoning on me to come.
12. For at every shutting of my eyes, I see images like those of the dead calling me. And I knew within my soul that my time is up.
13. Why do you lack patience my son? Why do you think that by killing your father, you shall become king? You have done what is not imagined. Now I shall not let you be the king, but your younger brother shall be.
14. And I shall call all the elders together tomorrow and make him king.
15. Now the seed of impatience is humiliation and failure. But a patient homo shall have it all. For patience gives you what is yours, but impatience takes away what is yours from you.
16. So Eva did as he said and made his second son, Ododoodo, the king of the land. And Eva died the same night after making Ododoodo the king of the land. And Ododoodoburied his father in the place where the Kings were buried.
17. And Ododoodo was forty years when he became king.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:11pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter Ninety-nine
1. In the sixth year of Eva the son of Mesireyau who was the descendant of Okatawa, there arose an epidemic disease in the land of Otori. And when all the priests and herbalists had tried without having a cure for it, they concluded that it was from the gods.
2. And Eva began to wonder, saying, what evil have we actually done to the gods if indeed they exist? And our ancestors who worship only their ancestors and deified them in those days, are they not dead now?
3. Are they also among the gods who punish us for no reason?
4. Now the disease which they had was measles. And they cried in pain and prayed to the gods. And some of them fled from the land.
5. And Eva was confused. And he cried deep into his sleep daily. And Eva heard a voice in his sleep, saying, gather pebbles and place them on those who are infected. For now it is in nature to use stones for the cure.
6. Now when Eva awoke, he was disturbed. And he wondered why he should do so. For it did not sound true to him. Now when more homos got the disease, he obeyed the voice which he had. And he placed the pebbles on the bodies of the sick and chanted along.
7. And some of those who were infected fell into trances and when they awoke, they began to get healed gradually. However some did not get healed, no matter the chants which were made. For they could not fall into trances to see visions.
8. And some died of the disease.
9. Now Eva continued every night, meditating deep if he would experience things such as he experienced before. And he saw the image of his own face in a certain night while he was meditating.
10. And he said, this is me. And the image said to him, I am the spirit behind your soul. I am your higher self. I am he who spoke to you before. And Eva awoke suddenly. And he was surprised.
11. And Eva said to all the homos of the land, do meditation and you shall see things. Set aside some nights to meditate and you shall discover secrets.
12. And when some homos did meditation, they began to discover some things. And some of them knew that such and such herbs shall work for such and such illness. And some said that they saw their ancestors.
13. And Eva was loved by the homos of the land, but the herbalists and native doctors hated him because he had revealed the secrets of their knowledge to everyone.
14. And Eva went to the west to learn more knowledge about meditation. And they gave him cowries and sea shells, saying, throw them and make meaning of their arrangements. For nature often works with the objects of nature.
15. And Eva returned with cowries and seashells. And he meditated upon them and got into trances often. And he knew which roots to use for the cure of certain diseases. And the panegyrics which he shall recite also was known to him.
16. And with such things they controlled the diseases which they had. And they did not become extinct upon the land.
17. And when Eva meditated again, his image appeared to him as before. And he asked, saying, teach me the cure to all diseases. And the image said to him, the things of nature which is able to cure a disease at this moment will not be able to cure them at some other moments.
18. And Eva said, why is this so? And his higher self said to him, everything in the world is evolving. For the organisms which are the causes of diseases shall soon make for themselves protections against the coldness of the pebbles and stones shall no more be able to cure diseases.
19. And the ointments and the songs which affects some organisms casting diseases shall not have power over them in the time when they have evolved. So also are the homos. For the things which you hear now and fear shall be a thing to laugh about to those who have evolved.
20. And the fear of today shall become the laughter of the future to those who have evolved and are wise. And the stories of monsters and witchcrafts which make some of you fear greatly shall be a thing to make a joke about for the evolved beings.
21. For many things which you experience now and cannot explain physically shall be known and explained in the future. For that which you call the sudden swelling of head and the sudden shock which you experience whenever you see something strange shall also be explained.
22. The scratches which you see on your bodies when you awake from sleep and the awkward behaviours of bats, cats, owls and some other animals which you call the manifestations of witchcrafts shall also be explained.
23. But all these shall wait until the time of great enlightenment. For we are under constraints to let the world remain a place where the use of the minds and the heads prevail rather than the use of the spirits. For the spiritual aspects of every homo seeks to help them and tell them everything about the mystery of the world, but this is not allowed by nature, else there shall be nothing to be amazed about after death.
24. Therefore Eva, use your head and you shall discover more secrets by yourself.
25. Now when Eva awoke, he wondered.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:09pm On Dec 03, 2019
Chapter Ninety-Eight
1. The homos of Gara soon went to their king and said, the land of Ituno which you allowed to remain beside our own is like when a homo puts fire on top of his roof, saying, I shall sleep and nothing shall happen.
2. Have you forgotten that Ituno was sent out of the land forcefully? And he does not like our land at all. For the king whom we have even deified is the same Ituno ridiculed and cursed greatly.
3. Now if we think that Ituno who cursed king Eneyufo and mocked our legends shall remain nice to us, then it is a mistake. Now O king, let us take the land and expand our land into it before they become great in number and come for us in multitude.
4. Are we not aware of how some homos flooded into the land from all over the places? And if they continue to enter the land, they shall be more than us twice. And the mind of the King shall say to him, go and attack Gara and swallow it up.
5. Now the king said, let the priests be consulted first. And let all the Wise homos of the land come to the palace. And we shall make decision whether to go or not.
6. Now all the elders of the land came together. And they were thirty one. And the king said, let us hear your decisions. And all the elders except one, agreed that they should attack Gara first.
7. But Ohere the father of Ituno said, it is not wise that we should go and attack Igara first. For they did not attack us. Have we not agreed with them that we shall not make battle with them?
8. Now all the elders said, keep quiet Ohere, for you say this because Ituno is your son.
9. And Ohere said, I say this to preserve our land, for this Ituno is a god in a human flesh. And I fear that we shall not be able to conquer him. Now tell me, which of you homos can survive in the evil forest for years without being killed by wild animals?
10. Or which of you can survive after facing a two-headed monster snake? Did Ituno not kill a two-headed monster snake?
11. Now let us be careful not to fall into his hands. For he is not a homo but a god and he shall defeat us because he does not work with numbers but with strength.
12. Now the elders were angry at the saying of Ohere. And they sent him out of the palace, saying, you are fighting for your son while we have the whole Kingdom to protect.
13. Now the king said, let us also consult the oracle. And we shall know if we should go or not. So they consulted the priest and when he had cast the cowries, he said, let us go after them. For the gods shall give us the victory.
14. So they got ready, saying, we shall attack Igara tomorrow evening.
15. Now Ohere gathered his family together and said, let us go immediately to Igara to see our son. And I know that he shall take us. For rather than being defeated and punished along with Gara, it shall go well to be with Igara while they conquer.
16. And Ohere took twenty-four homos out of the land the same evening, for he feared being seen by the homos of his land. And when Ohere and his people reached the border places, five guards of the land of Igara held them, saying, you are intruders.
17. Now when they had taken them to Ituno, he saw that they were his family members. And Ituno said, why did you come here without notifying me? What if the guards had shot the sticks at you?
18. Ada mi, Onya mi, what have you done?
19. And they said, we have come for the safety of Igara. For the elders of Gara and the king of Gara have conspired and they have planned to attack Igara tomorrow. Did they not send me out of their meeting and discuss, saying, let us go in the evening? For I eavedropped and heard all the things they said.
20. So Ituno said to the people, let all the guards gather together. And let them take weapons and stay in the borders. And let them attack the Garans as soon as they are sighted. For we know certainly that it is for war they come if they come in numbers more than five.
21. But if they come in a number of five or below, we allow them, saying they have come to deliver some messages.
22. Now while the guards of Igara waited in the rocks, they saw the armies of Gara entering the land. And they were about a hundred and fifty in number, which is more than all the numbers of soldiers in Igara.
23. For the guards of Igara were fifty-two. And the servants of the king were twenty-one. And the heads of the guards were two, being Ijala and Kukute.
24. Now the homos of Gara grouped themselves in tens and went different directions. For some shall enter Igara through the bush and some shall enter through the hills.
25. Now the homos of Igara grouped themselves in threes. And they went in the directions of the Garans. And they attacked the Garans first, three against ten. And the warriors of Igara defeated the warriors of the Garans because they were much prepared. And the traps which they had set in different parts of the land caught the Garans when they entered Igala. And they who were caught by traps were twenty-three. And the rest of them were defeated.
26. And they took the warriors of Garans left and bound them before Ituno the king.
27. And Ituno said to Ijala, count the warriors of Igara left and tell us if they are enough to take the whole of Gara. And Ijala counted them. And they were forty-nine, for some had died and some wounded in the battle.
28. And Ituno said, some homos came into the land yesterday, being about a hundred in number. And they are from Ubini. Now let me see if their strong homos shall join us in the battle.
29. And when Ituno had spoken with them, fifteen of them agreed to join hands to take Gara. And they were sixty-four warriors altogether. And they went to Gara and conquered it. And they took the king of Gara and sent him away.
30. And Igara expanded itself upon Gara and the amalgamated lands became Igara. And Ituno became the king over the whole kingdom of Igara. And the fame of Igara went about. And Ituno lived long upon the throne.
Christianity Etc › Re: The Genealogy Of Otem/Ebira History: For Blueangel444/Aadoiza To See by OtemAtum(op): 4:03pm On Dec 03, 2019
kkins25:
Very lengthy.. anyway the point I want to make is; keep this text safe and kindly pit a disclaimer on it clearly indicating that if this text should be found in 2000years time. It shouldn't be regarded as a religious text. Thank you. If not people like jesus-jnr would think it was a work from God.
Hmm. Thanks. You say that it is lengthy, but this is not even up to one-tenth of what I have yet.
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are All The Abrahamic Religion Prophets From One Place? by OtemAtum: 3:51pm On Dec 03, 2019
LaMujer:
Yeah, i'm an Abrahamic believer too. But you still haven't answered the question. Abraham, Moses, Isaac, Joseph, Jacob, Samuel etc, were all sent to their people. I have no problem with that honestly. Even though i believe, God in his benevolence could have extended that magnanimity to other nations. The Americas, North and South that is, The Blacks, and even the Far Easterners. They were neglected and don't deserve a "messenger from God?"


Okay, fine. Yet, Jesus and Muhammad who were supposedly sent to the World, still came from the same Middle East. That's some huge neglect. As though the World were only in the Middle East. That's a lingering question i can't find an answer to yet.


@the bolded, yes, he sent Jesus, but to the Middle Easterners, same way his forefathers have been, Middle East.
God Almighty didn't send any prophet to anybody, however the gods like Yahweh and Allah sent messages to their own people, same as the gods of other lands send messages to their own people too, only that the messages sent to other people by other gods were suppressed while the messages sent to the Israelites and Arabians were upheld by the colonial masters and propagated all over the world through terrorism, missionaries, violence, suppression, jihad, etc. If I give you the message of Olorun to the Yoruba, the message of Luwabi to the Yoruba, the message of Ofo to the Igbos, the message of Atum to the Egyptians, the message of Vishnu to the Indians, the message of Nzame, Nyame, Wayionyi, Odin, Zeus, etc to their people, etc. you will not be able to exhaust them forever. Currently, I Otem, am revealing the messages of the brothers of Yahweh and Allah to the world and they are contained in the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. This is for the use of the generations to come in the year 2625 C.E upwards. Here is a link to the wordy messages of the gods to their respective locales. The words therein is more than the words in the Quran of Allah and the bible of Jehovah combined.

https://www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum:
CanadaOrBust:
You said YHWH was roaming the earth BILLIONS of years ago. Does that sound to u like something someone with a smattering of scientific knowledge would say? He was on earth before there was even earth! Or have u forgotten that’s what u wrote? See it:

“Yahweh at creation is as tall as 4 storey building. He cannot come to the earth in that form anymore. But he can come to the earth as a human. That's exactly what I'm talking about. I will show you the stature of Yahweh [b]when he was on earth in his god form billions of years [/b]back. That former physical appearance of Yahweh is what he cannot come with anymore, but to come as a human to the earth, he can always do that.”

Stop trying to write science fiction, u simply don’t have the scientific education. Stop making a fool of yourself.

It’s been nice chatting with ya but I can’t keep wasting my time. This will be my last post on this.
Good luck.
The earth has been in existence billions of years ago too and it was some years after the earth existence that Yahweh and the seven other creatures like him came to the earth. Mind you, 4 billion years after earth formation is a short period of time to higher beings. Also, if you really know the science you claim to know, you would have realized that there are many physical things that cannot be seen with the physical eyes. So if I tell you that Yahweh and other first beings came to the earth in a physical body, you should try to reason deep to think about physical but things invisible to our eyes. In the book of Basotesh which I am still decoding, they have the body made up of netra. I'm still trying to figure out which physical but invisible stuff netra is. Maybe infrared, ultraviolet, microwaves or other stuffs entirely I don't know. I wonder why someone who is not a science guru is the one chosen to make known this scientific history sha. But las las, we will all be alright.
Thanks for your time while chatting with me. May the Light of God Almighty which created Yahweh and other beings reveal the truth of the Universe to you later on, Aseeee!!!
Christianity Etc › Re: The Doctrine Of The Ufos by OtemAtum: 3:00pm On Dec 03, 2019
gensteejay:
What else does it take?
Ability to strain the hippocampus area of the brain can also aid spirituality, since memory of past events, spiritual knowledge etc are all stored in it, but accessing it could be very difficult here on earth. This is the portion that gets unlocked when people are experiencing near death.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 2:45pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust:
Have u forgotten you wrote that your giangantic YHWH was roaming the earth billions of years ago (before the earth even formed!).
Here is what you wrote below. Juxtapose it with evolution of the universe after the Big Bang. Does this sound like someone with even modicum scientific education?:

“14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.”

Get some scientific education if u insist on writing science fiction so u don’t appear a total fool.

Good luck.
Yahweh was of gigantic stature, didn't you see it there? You said first tiny mammal appeared on earth millions of years back and it supports the history of the Book of Universal History, because it was around that time that the hominids, neanderthals began to surface. The hominids and the neanderthals are the first tiny mammals. Yahweh and other early beings were of gigantic stature, according to what I have told you earlier. So how does 'gigantic stature' equate to 'tiny mammals'?
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 2:28pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust:
What’s is the issuehuh??
Bros u r too much of a scientific illiterate to be writing science fiction. After the Big Bang the first tiny mammals appeared on earth 210 million years ago! (See below). Stop making a fool of yourself

Also have u forgotten u said when YHWH was here he was just another human with no god powers??

BTW what language did these gods speak - I see Igbo and Yoruba names grin

Guy stop making a fool of yourself (Earthus, Zeusus, you forgot moonus). What u r posting is PURE FICTION and not very good one at that. We all know it - u ain’t fooling nobody. Continue it if u enjoy writing it, otherwise find something better to do with your time.

Good luck.
You said that the first tiny mammals appear on earth 210 million years ago and it still doesn't contradict the Book of Universal History. Can you tell me how it contradicted the Universal History?
Christianity Etc › Re: Dialect Of The Early Beings (SERIOT LANGUAGE) by OtemAtum: 2:24pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust, here is the Seriot Language with which Jehovah your god and billions of other early beings worship the God-Consciousness their creator in those days.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 2:21pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust:
What’s is the issuehuh??
Bros u r too much of a scientific illiterate to be writing science fiction. After the Big Bang the first tiny mammals appeared on earth 210 million years ago! (See below). Stop making a fool of yourself
What should I do with this informationhuh

[quote author= ]Also have u forgotten u said when YHWH was here he was just another human with no god powers??[/quote]I said Yahweh in his last reincarnation didn't come as a gigantic being. Pls kindly show me when I said that Yahweh in his last reincarnation on earth doesn't have power. Is there any human who doesn't have one physical power or the other? Yahweh had physical power when he was here on earth and with his physical and psychophysical power, he killed people and led the Israelites into hating many surrounding lands. Did you even know how he died eventually? He died by suicide caused by depression. Pls read the book of universal history.

[quote author= ]BTW what language did these gods speak - I see Igbo and Yoruba names grin[/quote]Good question. During the time when the early beings came in their gigantic statures, they could speak uncountable numbers of languages. But the most common of them all was the Seriot language which is even the texts with which many of the chapters and books in the Universal History Book came with. I can teach you the Seriot Language if you want to learn. I'll refer you to the thread where the book of COMMON ERA in the Seriot Language was revealed.

Guy stop making a fool of yourself (Earthus, Zeusus, you forgot moonus). What u r posting is PURE FICTION and not very good one at that. We all know it - u ain’t fooling nobody. Continue it if u enjoy writing it, otherwise find something better to do with your time.

Good luck.[/quote]
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 2:11pm On Dec 03, 2019
Salim27:
you are totally wrong. there is only one God. he has no partner, no son, and no wife. He is the creator of everything in the universe.
God is not a he but a it. God is the TOTALITY OF EXISTENCE. Allah, Yahweh and other beings humans have ever worshipped are mere gods who are not up to 0.00000000000000000000000001% of God Almighty.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 1:25pm On Dec 03, 2019
Zenithpeak:
Then my opinion about Otem is valid and all case closed!

At least I followed the path to where it ends.

Otem has nothing to offer! All his deceit and lies has been exposed. This shall be a memorial in heaven and on earth and in the sea that he can no longer deceive anyone again. Jesus Christ and the people that believed in him has won the battle for human race again Rev 12:11
Hallelujah! ..... ALL GLORY BE TO JEHOVAH THE FATHER OF OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Go and read the book of Dibnim and learn.

dDibnim 2:10
10. There is no god in the universe who has been robed with a great glory as me, therefore Allah, Yahweh, Moloch, El, Enlil and their likes cannot withstand me in strength.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 1:22pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust:
Bros, u don’t realize how ridiculous u sound. Do yo know the meaning of the word AFTERTHOUGHT?

“This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle NEVER to come physically to THIS world, but to send representatives”
Do you know that you automatically become a god after you die? Reason being that when you die, you will be intimated with secrets of the universes a thousand times what you know on earth. Read the Book of Otem Erectus 226. In that passage, it spoke about the gods( beings who are not on earth currently, including those who were formerly on earth and have died). So these beings, including the early beings(whom we also call gods) see the happenings of the earth and many other physical planets as a game. They send representatives. Jehovah(Mosheh) came to the earth about 4000 years ago to found the religion called Judaism. Mosheh= Moses. He wrote a lot of stories, killed people who don't follow his instructions, etc. Do you know that while Mosheh was on earth, he had guardian angels? Well, let's leave that for another time.

[quote author= ]Also what is your definition of “god” and what do gods benefit from being worshipped?[/quote]A god is someone who already knows himself or herself to be a part of God Almighty and could make people worship him. A god is also anyone who is so skilled or talented in whatever he does e.g Messi and Ronaldo. A god is also a human who has been deified. A god is also any of the early beings, who were brought into this our universe some billion years back.

Many gods are happy at being worshipped, same as people feel Happy when being praised. Many gods are happy that their philosophies is being regarded on earth.

[quote author= ][b]Here is what u said about YHWH whom u said had no god powers:

”While on earth he manifested ALL THE ATTRIBUTES of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision”

So a normal ordinary human did all that? See how ridiculous?[/quote]Ask yourself, when did Yahweh do all these things? He did it in the past, around 4000 years back. I am talking about the present state of Yahweh and not the past when he was wrecking violence on earth here. Yahweh currently cannot even lift a pin because he is currently held unconscious in a spiritual cage made for him by the gods of science. Read Otem Erectus 226.

[quote author= ]Also u yourself have gone from being human to now being a god grin. Notice how u refer to yourself below:

“The creator is the totality of existence. WE HUMANS are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, WE HUMANS are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty”[/quote]It's like you don't know that humans are gods as soon as they realise themselves to be so. Even your bible said that 'ye are gods'. I am a god and because I am in human form, it doesn't stop me from being a god.

[quote author= ]Also look at what u wrote here - demonstrates scientific illiteracy:

“14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.”[/quote]What is the issue with thishuh
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 12:51pm On Dec 03, 2019
Zenithpeak:
Convince me somehow that truly Otem is great.
Convince me that that you're greater than JEHOVAH, JESUS CHRIST, Allah, Paul, Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and host of others that has lived a life worthy of emulation. Until then Otem remains a big fraud and self deluded fictitious low life village man that have undue access to Tecno phone and internet made by the people he claimed he's gratet than.
I am not obliged to convince anyone. I'm here to make the truth known, then the truth I make known will do the convincing.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 12:49pm On Dec 03, 2019
CanadaOrBust:
Bros, u don’t realize how ridiculous u sound. Do yo know the meaning of the word AFTERTHOUGHT?
Here is what YOU wrote:

“This earth is more like a game to the gods, the beings out there. They have formulated a principle NEVER to come physically to THIS world, but to send representatives”

Also what is your definition of “god” and what do gods benefit from being worshipped?

Here is what u said about YHWH whom u said had no god powers:

”While on earth he manifested ALL THE ATTRIBUTES of Yahweh whom he really was, for he killed many people who worked on the last day of the week, saying, it is evil against Yahweh. He killed also the worshipper of Sin, Baalim and Moloch in multitude, saying that they were abominable people.He also killed the blind, lame, hunch backed and all forms of disabled people, because he hated them from within.
35. He killed those who refused circumcision”

So a normal ordinary human did all that? See how ridiculous?

Also u yourself have gone from being human to now being a god grin. Notice how u refer to yourself below:

“The creator is the totality of existence. WE HUMANS are like the voice of God, but it's a great pity that from the origin of the world till date, WE HUMANS are being used by one god or the other to proclaim them as God Almighty”

Also look at what u wrote here - demonstrates scientific illiteracy:

“14. The creatures which resulted from the great bang were two millions in number, but only few of them were Homos(humanlike beings).

15. The Homos(beings) were very gigantic in stature. They were all males like us, except for Earthus.”
The problem you are having and the complications you seem to be experiencing is based on the fact that you haven't read the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY to understand every concept intoto. The Book of Universal History contains more than 4 billion years of histories, so you should be expecting different things to have happened within such long spans that only reading it whole can help you not to get confused, but as usual, I will try as much as possible to break everything down.

I use god interchangeably as a deified human and as well as an early being.

A human becomes a god as soon as he realizes that he is a part of God Almighty the creator and manifests a very great talent of God.

A human can also be seen as a god when he is just too good in what he is doing.

I guess you won't be confused if somebody is calling Messi and Ronaldo gods of soccer. I'm busy right now. When I'm done, I will take each of your confusions and break them into bits to explain them to you, but I bet you won't still understand much, because you can't take the step to read the whole histories of the BOOK OF UNIVERSAL HISTORY. Only by reading it can you understand everything.
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is The Difference Between God And Lord? by OtemAtum: 12:05pm On Dec 03, 2019
Zenithpeak:
'm never guilty of comprehension deficiency in my life, it's only funy that, as intelligent and learned as you are, you can fall for stuffs like this. It beats me down my spine that you are even quoting all those not good enough stories for nollyhood scripting as basis for criticizing Jehovah the living God.

Please, let us reason together. No matter how far you have gone, no matter how long you might have separated yourself from him; He's never far away from you. He has his eyes on you and waiting since all this years knowing fully well that one day you'll understand your folly and return unto him. He's willing to have you back, do not resist his love any longer. Today is the day of salvation. The name Jesus Christ that you hated so much all this while is the only way to your salvation but the good news is, he loves you continually and calling unto you even as we speak.
Tell him Lord Jesus Christ; I am sorry for choosing my own way against your will. I am back unto you, forgive and cleanse me of all my sin. I accept you as my Lord and my savior and I never go away from you, never again! Thank for accepting back to your side.

Do it and see his wonders. Hallelujah
This is about the funniest thing I've seen this year. It's like telling Krishna in those days to give his life to Jesus. It's like telling Mohammed of the Muslims to give his life to Jesus. It's like telling Zoroaster of the Zoroastrianists to gibe his life to Jesus. It's like telling Mosheh(Jehovah) to give his life to Jesus. Lol.

Okay, Zenithpeak, the reason why Otem cannot give his life to fictitious Jesus is that Otem don't deal in fictions, he deals in the reality. He knows far far more than Paul the creator of fictitious Jesus as that the time Paul was forming the Jesus story with Matthew, Mark and Luke. He knows more than Jehovah and his co-gods altogether. I Otem have come to open the eyes of humanity to further knowledge rather than leaving them in the archaic and untrue philosophy of ancient religions.

So sorry, Otem of truth cannot give his life to fictitious Jesus, rather, he is here to take the lives of billions of souls from fictitious Jesus and deliver the life of each person in his or her own hands. Peace.

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