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Chapter Fifty-Seven
1. Now when Aduvo was of age, the homos of Ochirezote, the ancient Kingdom of Okerune, came to the land, for they had heard how there was much treasure in the land. And Okatawa and his brothers were weak and feeble in those days.
2. Now when the Eshovonese and the Mangogites and the Darans and Kinites and Femites with the Ajaokatans had assembled, saying, let us take the land and search all the treasures in it, Aduvo arose and said, I shall go and meet them.
3. And Okatawa said, where are you going? And Aduvo said, I shall stop them. And Okatawa said, my son do not go out to meet them. Let the fighters of the land do the fight. For though they are very few in number, but our ancestors shall be with them. For the land of Uvo which has remained for so long is not by the strength of our own fingers.
4. And Aduvo said, they are set to do evil. For they shall come and destroy us. And they pray also to their ancestors, therefore if the ancestors are left out of this battle, man for man they shall subdue us.
5. Therefore let me take my life in my hands and see what I can do to see that the battle is not fought. And when Okatawa could not persuade Aduvo to remain, he said to him, go and the spirits of our ancestors shall go with you.
6. And the spirit of Farounke your mother shall be your protector. And Aduvo took wine in a large gourd. And he filled up the sacks with substances. And he went with two servants on camels.
7. And Aduvo cut the branch of a palm tree and raised it high up as he went out to meet the homos of Ochirezote who came to attack the land. And when they saw him from afar, they said, he is for peace.
8. And when Aduvo had reached them, he came down from the Camel and his servants also. And he said, we have heard of you homos of Ochirezote, the land of many ethnic groups.
9. But we are your brothers and neighbours and we shall not show disrespect to you at any time. Are we not blood brothers with the Eshovonese? For our ancestor Omujemi and your ancestor Eshovo were brothers together in the land of Takumi.
10. And when there was lack of tolerance for our religion, Eshovo left. And Okehi the descendant of Omujemi left later also to dwell in the land of Okehi, but Ota his son went apart to found this land which we first called Ota. And by virtue of expansion, it was renamed Uvo.
11. Therefore we are brothers, O homos of Eshovo. And to the Mangogites also, we are brothers by virtue of our ancestors. For Ohomorihi is whom we worship and he is whom most of you worship also.
12. Now when the Eshovonese heard the history which Aduvo spoke, they said, truly we are brothers. And they came close to Aduvo and hugged him. And they said, you have saved your land through history.
13. For by history can a generation be saved. And a land who knows not its history shall fall prey of other lands who has history.
14. Now be glad O Aduvo, root of Ohida. For our forefather Eshovo indeed passed down the history of himself and his brothers to us, saying, if any of the children of my brothers come to your land to dwell, do not refuse them.
15. But you shall treat them well and give them lands to stay and to plant crops. And treat them like brothers and friends rather than slaves.
16. Be one with the children of my brothers and sister whose names are Omujemi, Anaze and Obanyi. For we are all the children of Onozare our father. And we loved one another in the days when we were together.
17. And I could have returned to Takumi to fetch them into this land when I discovered it, but I was tired and lacked strength to trek such far distance again.
18. Now Aduvo said to the people, come in to our land and see it how it is. And you shall be welcomed well into it.
19. And the homos of Ochirezote came along, but Aduvo held up the palm leaves so that his people would know that those who enter their land had come for peace. And the homos of Ochirezote were well welcomed to the land.
20. And Omuya the wife of Aduvo prepared apapa and gave them to eat. And they said, this is tasty, for we have not tasted anything as delicious as this. And Aduvo said, we have made it out of beans.
21. And the homos of Ochirezote said, we shall learn it and do it in our land also. Now Okatawa came forward and blessed the homos of Eshovo who came, saying, you are the true homos of Ebir. For you went into the ancient land of Okerune and made a space for yourself there when there appeared to be no space.
22. Blessed be the children of Eshovo forever. For if Eshovo had not made the decision to leave Takumi earlier to dwell in Okerune, we should have been destroyed today.
23. Now the homos of Ochirezote departed after five days. And they did not hurt Uvo nor make it hotter than it was. But they departed in peace.

Chapter Fifty-Six
1. Now Odukeke and Inyioyi the two brothers of Okatawa followed after those who took Okatawa. And they saw him in the place where they had kept him. And they said, it is hard for us to set him free from here, but we shall go and fetch those who shall help us.
2. Now when they passed through the bush of Egede. A hunter took hold of them and said, you have trespassed and you shall be killed, for this forest has long been forbidden for ordinary homos, but for hunters alone is it allowed.
3. And Odukeke begged with Inyioyi his brother, saying, we do not know this. For our brother was unjustly treated by the king of Isoha. And he is now kept in a confinement to be killed shortly.
4. Now the hunter whose name was Egamu had compassion on them and said, was I not also from the land of Isoha before I was exiled for the wrong reason? Now I shall take my revenge also in helping you to rescue your brother.
5. And Egamu went and called all his hunter friends together, saying, this is the evil which the people of Isoha did to these homos. Now let us help them.
6. And they, being about hundred in number, wore all their shields on their bodies. And the cowries and the shells and gourds filled with sand did they wear on their bodies so that the weapons of their attackers shall not pass through.
7. Now when they reached the land of Isoha, they said, if you grant our request, we shall also leave your land in peace, but if you refuse, you shall perish.
8. Now the hunters of Egede were feared so much. For those who had shot the sharpened weapons at them had wondered why the things which they shot had not penetrated them. And they did not bother to check beneath their garments, saying, they possess charms which do not allow the sharp woods into their tough skins.
9. And some had said, the skins of the hunters of Egede are like the skins of crocodiles.
10. Now when the king of Isoha saw them, he said, hunters of Egede, what shall we do with you? And they said, we have come to demand the rescue of Okatawa our brother. Now if you refuse us our demand, we shall prepare for a battle. And if you grant him to us, we shall depart peacefully.
11. Now the king feared and said, let him go, for I do not know that he is a brother to the hunters of Egede. And they brought Okatawa out of the prison. And he said, I have suffered undeservably in the hands of the Isohans here and it shall be vanity for me if my desire is not granted to me.
12. My only son is here in this land and I do not even know his name. Now let him go with me, or else I shall die here.
13. And the king said, the child is old enough to make his choice. Let him be called upon to choose where he shall stay. And if he chooses the throne, so shall he remain here. But if he chooses you, then you shall he follow.
14. And Fadile was called to make his choice. And he looked at his father who was poorly dressed. And he looked also at his grandfather who was in his royal attire. And the child said, I go with my father.
15. And the king said, Fadile, here is the throne. Do you not want to be king of Isoha after I am gone? And Fadile said, a father is greater than a throne. For I do not resemble the throne but the father.
16. And Fadile held his father tight and followed him. And both he and Okatawa wept. And they went to the grave of Farounke to weep on it. And Okatawa said, O Farounke, I have finally fought and won the fight.
17. And your son is now with me. Fear not for I shall take care of him more than a father to a son. And I shall let no evil come upon him. For he is the dimples of my cheek and my nostrils.
18. He is my eyes and my reason for living.
19. And Okatawa and his brothers returned to Ota and held a feast. And they renamed Fadile even after he was already eleven years. And the name which Okatawa gave to him was Aduvo, saying, he shall be the father of Uvo land(for the name which Okatawa and his people had named Ota after it was well expanded was Uvo), saying, our land is expanding like a growing hand.
20. And Aduvo was glad that he had been brought to the land of his father. And he learnt Ebir and spoke it very well with the people of the land.

Chapter Fifty-Five
1. Okatawa and his brothers expanded the land of their father Ota after his death. And they married from the south side. And Okatawa married a homo called Farounke. And Farounke was the Princess of her land.
2. And the king demanded that she should be present yearly for a festival which involved all the princesses and the princes of the king. And they came into the land of Ota to take her home with horses.
3. Now a day came that they came to take her. And she was pregnant with the child of Okatawa. And he said to them, let her remain with me, for she cannot go with this pregnancy.
4. And they said, the king of Isoha has boasted of her to everyone. And he cannot afford to disappoint them. Her beauty even in this pregnancy is great. Therefore let her come, for the land is prepared for her.
5. And Farounke said to Okatawa, if I go, I shall return. Only pray to your ancestors to see me through. And Farounke went with the men. And she was on Camel instead of a horseback so that her pregnancy would not be affected.
6. Now when Farounke reached the land, she was ill , for she had passed through the cold from Okatawa to Isoha and she had become sick and tired.
7. And Farounke prepared and performed dances before all those who had come to watch. And she danced even better than all the other princesses who came also. And her father was honoured.
8. Now after the performance, Farounke fell very ill such that she could not return to Ota, the land of her husband. And the king sent servants, saying, go and tell Okatawa that his wife has fallen Ill such that she would stay in Isoha until she is made whole.
9. And so was Okatawa told of his wife who was ill. And Okatawa said, let me go with you to see her. And they said, the king have said that you should not trouble yourself to come to the land.
10. And Okatawa held his peace, but he sent herbs to her through the servants of the king. And Farounke did not improve in her condition. And after two months, she began to be in labour.
11. And she had a baby boy, whom her father named Fadile. And she died after having the child. And the king said, we cannot lose both the child and the mother together. Therefore keep the child so that its father shall not know anything about it.
12. And they sent message to Okatawa, saying, the king of Isoha has called for you. And Okatawa heed the call of the of the king of Isoha.
13. And when he came, the news of the death of his wife was announced. And they said, Farounke died in labour. And she died with the child in her womb. And Okatawa said, why did you not get the best of the traditional birth helps to help her deliver?
14. Why did you keep her away from me until this long? Did I not pay her price? Did I refuse to bring to you all the things which you demanded during her wedding with me?
15. Now you have killed my wife and the child in her? For I knew that you were set for mischief in the day when you took her from me, saying let her come and dance despite her pregnant condition?
16. Now the king named Ewuje called Okatawa aside and spoke soft words to him. And Okatawa said, I have left all in the hands of the Creator of life.
17. And Okatawa returned to Ota, the land of his nativity. And he wept all days for his wife, for he loved her greatly. Now Okatawa married another woman after three years, but he did not cease to go to Isoha yearly to change the flowers and beautiful stones which he had set in the place.
18. Now Asusu, the new wife of Okatawa gave birth to a baby girl for him. And Okatawa sought for a baby boy also. And when Asusu conceived again, she had another girl. And Okatawa went and married Oziohu.
19. Now when Okatawa went to perform the remembrance ceremony of his deceased wife as he did yearly, he saw one who looked exactly like him from afar. And when he looked towards him, the servants of the king came and fetched him away on a horse.
20. And Okatawa went to the palace and spoke with the king concerning the matter. And the king said, Farounke did not deliver the child in her womb before she died, therefore what you seem to have seen is not real.
21. And the king called all his servants and said, is there any child in the whole kingdom whose appearance is like that of Okatawa? And they presented many of the children of the land, but he did not see anyone who looked like him.
22. And the king said to Okatawa, do not come again to this land to do the remembrance, for it shall grieve you when you remember the death of your former wife afresh. Go and marry from your land and let the bond which you have with Farounke be broken.
23. Now when Asusu conceived the third time and had a baby girl again, Okatawa remembered the child which he saw again. And he said, I shall go to Isoha on the day of their festival.
24. And if the child which I saw is really the child of Farounke, I shall know it. And Okatawa went to Isoha with two of his brothers. And he said to them, you shall go to the palace of the king and tell them that you have come to see their festival from Ako.
25. And they shall not deny you of seeing it. Then shall you watch to see if there is any child of about ten years of age who is like me in appearance. And they went and witnessed the festival.
26. And they saw the child of Farounke sitting among the wives of the king. And they went and told Okatawa, saying, brother, you have seen well, for he is like you in all aspects. And he moved his arms as you did when you were young.
27. And there is no difference in his smiles and yours.
28. Now Okatawa said, I shall go and take him away secretly, for if he sets his eyes on me, he shall not restrain to follow after me.
29. Now Okatawa went and disguised like one of the servants of the king. And he met his son. And when his son saw him, he was amazed. And Okatawa spoke softly to him, saying, do not fear for I am your father.
30. Now while he was with the child, he was discovered and taken forcefully by the servants of the king. And the king said, have I not warned you not to come into this land anymore?
31. Why have you come to commit havoc in the land? And Okatawa said, I have come to take my son with me. For it is wrong how you have hidden him from me. For I struggle to have a male child, but here is one whom you have hid away from me.
32. Now the king of Isoha said, it is the only child of Farounke and the heir to the throne, for I have no son at all but Farounke alone is my child. And her son shall be the heir. Therefore you cannot take him away, or else I shall have no heir.
33. Now depart from this land and do not return again, for your safety is assured you if you depart and do not return anymore. But if you return, you shall be cut off.
34. And Okatawa spoke no more word with the king. And he turned around to depart. And while he was a little while away from the palace to meet his brothers so that they could depart together, the Wise Men of the land advised the king, saying, why do you allow this young man depart in silence?
35. Have you not observed the mischief in his eyes? Certainly he shall return with many gbenigbeni and kidnap Fadile the heir. Therefore let us go after him and take hold of him. And let us kill him once and for all.
36. And the king listened to the counsel which they gave him. And they caught up with Okatawa and gripped him hard. And they brought him back to the king. But they did not know that his brothers who came with him had seen them, for they hid in the bush before, awaiting when Okatawa shall come to join them back home.
37. Now when Okatawa was brought before the king, he commanded saying, lock him up until I shall decide what we shall do to him.

Chapter Fifty-Four
1. Now Ota remained in the place which he was, for he had expanded the land upon himself, which he named after himself. And he reared animals in the land also.
2. And Oziohu stayed in the land of Ota in her old age after the death of Okehi. And she gathered the children of Ota under the moonlight and told them stories. And they learnt morals from the stories which she told them.
3. And she told them stories of how many lands of Ebir came to be. And she said, we Ebirs are scattered everywhere like the wind. But we shall soon return to our root. For famine and attack from pests and battle and such like it are the reasons why we move from one place to another.
4. Now my children, remember your root places whenever you go far from it. And once a while, come home to see how it is faring. And if you have anything good to do to it, do it because it is your root.
5. Now all the children of Ota were very moral in their attitudes, for their grandmother had taught them so much with stories. And Ota called Oziohu his mother apart and said, how do you instill morality upon this children? For I have neither seen you threatening them nor beating them.
6. And Oziohu said, I have found morality as a thing of nature. And anyone who is willing to be moral can be. For there is only one law to it and it is to do good to everyone around you according to your ability.
7. To obey this law of morality is not a hard thing to do, therefore it requires no threats as a consequence for not doing it. As it is not hard for a homo to open his mouth to speak, so is it not hard to practise what is good.
8. Seeking peace is easier than eating banana. For it takes little or no strength or many muscles to be peaceful. But to be violent demands the muscles of the face to frown, the muscles of the hands to destroy and the muscles of the legs to kick hard.
9. A peaceful soul can cope with difficult situations, but a violent and immoral soul shall commit more and more atrocities while he seeks solution.
10. I have heard how the killing of one homo destroyed the lives of hundreds of homos in a battle. And I have heard also how one homo by being peaceful settled age-long tribal war.
11. My son Ota, it is because of your friendly nature I am like this today. If you are evil, how could I have changed.
12. Therefore it is good to be good and friendly, for your goodness and friendliness can change a bad soul into someone who sparkles like the diamond. And it is bad to be bad and wicked, for your wickedness can turn a good soul into someone who reeks with the smell of a faeces.
13. Do not look at anyone as if he or she cannot be a good person in life. For some at childhood are cruel and unfriendly, but when they grow older, they become like angels.
14. A child who is stingy in the days of his or her childhood could even be the one among his or her parent's children to give more.
15. It does not take a minute for anyone to be changed. For even the surface of the earth changes with time. We are on it today, but under it shall we be in the next century.
16. Today we worship our ancestors, but tomorrow we shall become the worshipped also by our children.
17. Therefore it is good to do what is good while we are on the surface of the earth, or else we die and the evil things we have done shall go from mouth to mouth as history. And homos born in ten thousand years after shall speak evil of us.
18. And in our afterlives, we see what they say about us and feel ashamed. And our stars shall refuse to shine.
19. Therefore Ota, teach morality to your children without threatening them. You shall be amazed how they shall be moral without a threat. But if you threaten them before they become moral, that is not a natural morality but a threat-made morality which cannot stand the test of time.
20. For morality borne out of threat is conditional and fake.

Chapter Fifty-Three
1. Ota was the first son of Okehi, but his elder sister was Oromi. And Ota alone was he who did not hate the two wives other wives of his father. For Okehi had woken up early on the rock which he named Okehi.
2. And he left his wife and five children alone in the little village which he just founded. And he went through the bush until he had reached a land called Sokosoko. And he saw a village with only five huts in that place.
3. And Okehi saw a hunter. And his name was Obubuo. And Okehi said to him, I have come to this far place to see if there can be a homo to marry. For I have a big land to cultivate. And I shall have need of three women who are strong enough to work in the farm.
4. And Obubuo said, my kolanut farm is not doing well these period. And it is difficult for me to cater for the needs of all my wives and children. For I have ten wives and Forty-Two children.
5. Therefore if you shall be ready to pay me the amount which I want, then I shall give to you four of my daughters to be your wives. And Okehi paid some price. And he took with him three daughters of Obubuo.
5. And Obubuo sent five of his servants after them, saying, go and see where they shall dwell. And the servants returned and said, they dwell in a land which is not very far from Ochirezote.
6. And Obubuo said, we shall visit them every five years to see how they do.
7. Now when Okehi came with the three women, his wife refused to entertain them. And he forbade all his children to entertain them also.
8. But Ota went and fetched water for them to wash their feet. And he gave them fat and elegede to eat. And they ate and were filled.
9. And Okehi revealed the three daughters of Obubuo to his wife, saying, they are your junior, so take care of them.
10. And the wife of Okehi hissed at them and left them. And the wife of Okehi called his four children apart and said, let me not see you close to the women. And they said, so we shall do.
11. But Ota said, I shall not obey you this time mother. For father has his reason for marrying them. Do you not complain that the farm is too large than we could handle? Do you not say that you cannot remain with father if he is poor?
12. How then can father be able to work on the large farm alone without some helpers? For I alone am the one who help him in the farm. And these wives which he has married shall give birth to children who shall join me to work in the farm.
13. And who knows whether we shall become large in a moment?
14. When her mother heard him, she said, mé è tú. And she fetched a dry cane and beat Ota until he had weals all over his body.
15. Now Ota did not change into what his mother wanted him to be. But he continued to do good, not only to his father's wives, but to everyone. And Okehi was very proud of her.
16. Now a day came when the wives of his father had all given birth to children. And the mother of Ota sought how to kill them. And she poisoned the food which they shall eat from the pot.
17. Now all these children had gone to the farm to work with their father. And Ota began to feel ill, therefore he left them all to return home. Now when he had reached home, he found the pot of food.
18. And Ota went to the same pot and fetched food for himself. And he ate the food and began to have great pains. And he groaned. Now when his mother heard his voice, she entered the hut and cried out when he saw that his son was the one who ate the food.
19. And she cried out. And Okehi returned with his other wives and children. And he found his son half alive and half dead. And the first wife of Okehi cried out and confessed.
And Okehi carried Ota to a place where he should be treated, for the poison was much. And he returned home and told Oziohu his first wife, saying, you have killed your first son. And Oziohu burst into tears. And Okehi said, as a punishment, you shall be sent out of the house for one week. And Ota shall be buried without your presence, because the soul of the dead is now angry with you.
20. And since then, she began to live soberly. And she asked for the forgiveness of his husband and all his wives and their children. And Oziohu joined them to work in the farm too.
21. And she went to the grave which her husband dug and wept daily into it, asking for the forgiveness of his son.
22. Now Oziohu saw in her dream like the ghost of his son flogging her. And she ran in pain, saying, forgive me for killing you. And when she told his husband, he said to him, when a ghost flogs a homo, it is a message that the homo should change his thought.
23. Therefore change your thought and cease to think of Ota as if he is with the dead rather than with the living. For the dream which you see is not even true because Ota is not dead.
24. And Oziohu said, why do you say that Ota is not dead? And Okehi took his wife to a place. And she saw that Ota had married with two children already. And she was shocked such that she fainted.
25. And Ota saw that his mother had changed. And he said, forgive me mother for making you feel like a murderer for these five years. For if this is not done, you shall not be changed.
26. And Oziohu said, it is I who should ask for your forgiveness instead. For I was blinded with hatred towards the children of my rival wives. And I sought to poison them. Now Ota, come and present yourself to them so that they could know that you are still alive.
27. And Okehi laughed and said, you and your daughters alone did not know that Ota is alive. For I have brought them all here many times to see Ota. And I brought all your daughters here six days gone by also.
28. And I have told them to keep it a secret until I shall make it known to you. Now Oziohu, I have not only learnt what what we think or believe upon can decide what we do, but I have learnt also that our heads make for us as a dream what we think as if is real.
29. For this five years, you have dreamt of the living in the land of the dead. If the head is threatened and scared, it shall dream scary and frightening dreams. But if it is settled and calm, it shall dream lucid and calm dreams also.

OkaiCorne:
One question Otem, when did this happen? In the era of neanderthals or the era of homosapiens? Did all these happen in the last 400 to 1000 years?

I'm referring to your last few posts.

Thanks.

Everything I have written so far did not happen within the last one million years. We are created to act the scripts of what has actually happened in the past. So we all have roles to play in this film. We play it to our best ability and go. We come again reincarnated according to our wish, play similar or different roles again and go on and on like that.

Collyno82:
do we possess such power to procreate through imagination? if yes y are we not creating wealth n riches through imaginary creation

We create through imagination, but it takes longer a time than we expect or think. And it even takes our actions. The world we live in today is what some people like us in the past have imagined. It took long, but it eventually happened.

Collyno82:
with this any hope for life hereafter

There are many afterlives . It all lies on you the one you want for yourself. You can even create one for yourself and it's yours. If you can imagine one
so it shall be for you.

WE CREATE OUR LIFE AFTER HERE, SAME AS WE CREATE NIGHTMARES FOR OURSELVES BY FEAR.

Collyno82:
yes but to wat extent

To know more about God, study just two things...
Yourself
&
Nature

You will realise God

Collyno82:
just like dat

if you do meditation, you will see God through yourself. We are manifestations of God.

Collyno82:
so how do I approach this God that created the universe

look deep into yourself. Meditate. The God is one with you.

hordmax:
Continue thumbing balderdash oo. . Wehdone!!
But, what's your religion? Ògá.

I don't have a religion, but I know the God who made the gods of religions. Read this to know more.

https://www.nairaland.com/2938907

Collyno82:
then tell me who created the universe? I want to no n probably follow him

God created the Universe.
This is not a god of any religion, but the one who created all things, including all the gods of religion.


https://www.nairaland.com/2938907

malvisguy212:
you know nothing about the old testament law, so keep shut.

what's this one saying?

ZarZar:
Man, that's why I'm not buying into all this religious mumbo jumbo. I'm human 1st & there's everything wrong with killing another human over an issue that's beyond their control. Sick, sick, sick!

Good one. They justify killing for simple things. Thunder fires Allah, Yahweh and other bad gods in Otem's name I pray.

austin2all:
if allah, who they claimed owns nature, and this man answered the call of nature (unintentionally o) and the same allah wants to kill him through his sharia for answering his call of nature, then tell me how fair the allah is.

bwt, what is allah sef. moon or what?

Allah and Yahweh share violence in common. Remember how Yahweh killed Uzza for touching the ark in a reflex action. If Yahweh who they claimed owns nature, and Uzza answered the call of nature(unintentionally o) and the same Yahweh killed him through holy slap for answering his call of nature, then tell me how fair the Yahweh is.

BTW, Allah and Yahweh are both bound in a spiritual cage until Africans and the whole world have widened up to know that the two evil gods are not the God Almighty who created the universe and the multiverse.

ZarZar:
Yes! This is the saddest thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry but I'd speak up for him. What kind of cruel & psychopathic God are these people serving? It's really sad that some people are this blinded by religion.

Yahweh did more than this in his own days. Jungle justice for Uzza just for touching an ark is even more cruel than this.
However, both Yahweh and Allah are currently in their spiritual cage where they shall remain for a thousand years.

hopefulLandlord:
first off, "Biblical Christianity" is a meaningless term cuz I'm pretty sure you're a "biblical Christian" and many other christian sects are not "biblical Christians" *according to you*

now to the main question

What country do you live in? I'm going to assume you're in Nigeria like most other people here. When most of the population is Christian in one form or another it means that they're the ones most likely for us to run into on a daily basis. It's a numbers game really when you get down to it.

But you can also think of it this way. When was the last time a Jew came to your door, gave you a pamphlet and asked you to join their congregation? When was the last time a Buddhist stood on a street corner and yelled at everybody that they were all going to be punished if they didn't repent and follow the ways of the Buddha? When was the last time a Muslim got offended because you didn't pray towards Mecca five times a day like he had?

I'm going to assume that the answers to that is zero. Now the last time a Christian came to my door, gave me a pamphlet and wanted me to join their congregation was literally LAST NIGHT when some Jehova's Witnesses came by. I told them I was Jewish, which I'm not, and they left rather quickly. When was the last time a Christian stood on a street corner and said I and everybody else was going to hell if we didn't repent of our sins and convert to Christianity? That was TODAY as I was out and about getting stuff done and had to go downtown. And when was the last time a Christian got offended because I didn't say grace before eating my lunch? That was TWO DAYS AGO at a dinner on Monday. According to her I need to thank God for my food before eating it. I told her to mind her own business because it doesn't involve her.

I haven't even talked about witnessing Christians ridiculing one another many times, face to face, and even on these very pages. I've seen articles written by Christians about other Christians. They can get pretty nasty about it.

In truth, I have no problem with a person's religion or religious views until they take it upon themselves to try and push it on me. I've got close friends that are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist and one really weird one who likes to say he's a Pagan and I don't have problem with them cuz they don't get in my face. You can wear purple robes eat cardboard and worship the almighty chia pet in your home or church and I have no problem with what you believe. The minute you think that because you worship the almighty chia pet you can pass laws and restrict the rights of others and everyone must join you in doing whatever you do, then I have a problem with your beliefs. You don't like how people live their lives because it is not how the almighty chia pet wants you to live your life? take a clue from the Amish go isolate yourself somewhere and leave everyone else alone.

So what it comes down to is so long as you pray in your own way and don't try to get in my face and don't try to push your beliefs into the secular world I've got no issue with you or any other religious dude. And this counts for most atheists I've met as well.

pls help me add this. When did a Christian disturb me in my workplace that I should support their ministry with money? That was last two week till yesterday, but I refused to give such money because I have decided to stop giving the beggar god of the xtians my money. When last did they judge me for not paying that money to their god? That was yesterday when they came and showed me what other people have written in their begging card and the money they have paid to fulfill their promise.

However, I am not an atheist, but the Op should edit the topic and say, WHY DO ATHEISTS AND THINKERS AND BRAIN USERS BOTHER?

I bother because Christians disturb me with noise and begging.

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As if fictitious Jesus himself did not dedicate a full chapter of the bible to calling some thinkers fool I pity the sheeple who think that they need any superhuman before they can inprove upon their mistakes and become a better person in life. Read these things said by fictitious Jesus. Which words could be more insulting than these?

bible: Matthew 23:1

1. Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2 saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 Therefore whatever they tell you to observe,[a] that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. 4 For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works they do to be seen by men. They make their phylacteries broad and enlarge the borders of their garments. 6 They love the best places at feasts, the best seats in the synagogues, 7 greetings in the marketplaces, and to be called by men, ‘Rabbi, Rabbi.’ 8 But you, do not be called ‘Rabbi’; for One is your Teacher, the Christ,[b] and you are all brethren. 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10 And do not be called teachers; for One is your Teacher, the Christ. 11 But he who is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.

[b]13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut up the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in. 14 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. Therefore you will receive greater condemnation.[c]

15 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you travel land and sea to win one proselyte, and when he is won, you make him twice as much a son of hell as yourselves.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the temple, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gold of the temple, he is obliged to perform it.’ 17 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gold or the temple that sanctifies[d] the gold? 18 And, ‘Whoever swears by the altar, it is nothing; but whoever swears by the gift that is on it, he is obliged to perform it.’ 19 Fools and blind! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that sanctifies the gift? 20 Therefore he who swears by the altar, swears by it and by all things on it. 21 He who swears by the temple, swears by it and by Him who dwells[e] in it. 22 And he who swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by Him who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone. 24 Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!

25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cleanse the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of extortion and self-indulgence.[f] 26 Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.

27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28 Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.

29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, 30 and say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

31 “Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your fathers’ guilt. 33 Serpents, brood of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell?[/b]

Fictitious Jesus used foul words like serpents, brood of vipers, hypocrites, woe, whitewashed tombs, fools, blind, etc. So why do you OP say that the christians should not follow the footsteps of their master fictitious Jesus who had a first class degree in Cursology in the University of Hatred

ariesbull:
In the spirit communication is done wordless

have you heard about telepathy

This doesn't make the story true. Once again the story is a lie.

Lies
[quote author=.]Without words, he spoke to me. “I Am the God of the Christians. I Am the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.”[/quote]

joe4christ:
Glad you found your way out of that religious bondage by yourself.
I wish people will realise once and for all that their belief system becomes their reality - The power of the mind (People have little understand the power the mind wields)

What amazed me most is that those days when I pray to the christian god about it, I see bible passages of the bible supporting that the woman is actually the cause of my troubles. I wondered why myself a Christian should be vulnerable in the first place to the power of an ordinary witch. Does that not mean that the witch has power more than the Christians? Now when I found my real self, I confidently say that I should be the one the 'so called' witch should fear, not me fearing them, but that is if witches exist as they are being painted in the first place.
This world is psychological and those who are poor in the brain will continue to suffer ignorantly. I pity the sheeple especially.

NoWorries7:
Remove worship songs and prayers... And you will see us Christians, being wiped off this planet in a month.

So you can't survive without worship song and prayer.
BTW, why do you christians always feel victimised? What is happening in this country that isn't affecting every other set of people? I tire for sheeple mentality jare

I DREAMT THAT THE GREAT JUDGEMENT MORNING HAD DAWN...

Chorus:
And O what a weeping and wailing
As the lost are told of their fate
They cried for the rock and the mountain
They prayed but their prayer was too late

Chapter Fifty
1. Now the homos from the land of Wumukumbuo began to attack Takumi greatly. For they came from the south and broke the defence of Takumi. And they took their goods and resources.
2. And the king of Takumi, Baganza the son of Ganza said, we shall have need of representatives from all the tribes in Takumi to battle against the homos of Wumukumbuo. And so, every ethnic produced its own warriors and their captains.
3. And the leader of the Kutebite was Ndufu. And he took one thousand eight hundred homos with him who were Kutebites.
4. And the leader of the Tikvwites army was Teno. And he took four hundred warriors with him. And the Ikenites were led by Keme and he had three hundred and fifty two homos with him.
5. And the Jukuites in the land chose Pindiga to be the leader. And he led one thousand homos. And Obehira was the leader of the army of Ebirland. And he led three hundred and thirty-three homos who were fighters. And the soldiers from all the other minor ethnic groups of the land summed up to two hundred and two homos.
6. And the Tikvwites went first to face the Wumukumbuites in battle. And when they had fought and were overpowered, they returned. And the Ebirs and the other minor tribes followed.
7. And Obehira took his people and said, let us consult our ancestors. And they waited in the valley called Guk and communed with their ancestors. And Obehira said, we are descendants of Ohomorihi and he is our god, so commune with him and not with Rimam.
8. For Ohomorihi is our own and not Rimam, even though we stay in the land of Rimam. For I hear some of you Ebirs mentioning Rimam in your meditation and chants.
9. So all the soldiers spoke their wishes in the name of Ohomorihi their great ancestor, whom they take also as their god and creator.
10. And Obehira cried aloud, saying, if you Ohomorihi shall grant us victory today, we shall make your worship popular in Takumi. And both in public and in secret shall you be worshipped.
11. And they went towards their right side. And they saw that the Wumukumbuites were already chasing the minor tribes of Takumi. And Obehira said to the people, let us hide behind the rocks and the boulders all around.
12. And we shall wait until the people, our enemies, have chased these tribes beyond the rocks. And we shall emerge behind their backs. And so it was that the Wumukumbuites chased the minor tribes of Takumi beyond the rocks and boulders. And the Ebirs emerged behind their backs and pursued them with great energy , for they had reserved their energy all day.
13. And they caught up with the Wumukumbuites and began to cut them into pieces. And they had almost defeated them totally before the Kutebites and the Jukuites emerged ahead.
14. And they took the remnant of the Wumukumbuites alive. And they entered very well into their land and destroyed many things which they had. And they took also many things away from the land.
15. Now when they had returned to Kuteb, the soldiers of Ebir gathered to sing to their ancestors in their own tongue. And they sang, saying, we have won the battle. We have defeated the enemy land.
16. We have not done it by our muscles or by our strength. And all the forces we have put into the fight is not our own but of our ancestral gods; of Ohomorihi the maker of our rain.
Of Enesi the father of many lands.
17. Of Obaro the father of all nomads. Of Oricha the god of knowledge.
18. They have given us the victory which we requested. For by their forces have we defeated the Wumukumbuites and we have taken them captive.
19. We worship you as we have promised, O ancestors. We shall now worship you publicly, for your powers are greater than the powers of the ancestors of other ethnic groups and tribes.
20. Now while the Ebirs said their praises, some homos heard them, for they heard the names of the gods whom they called. And they reported to the king. And the king said, why have you broken the law of the land?
21. Have we not said that you should worship other god except Rimam? Do you not know that when many gods are worshipped, it shall bring fighting and quarreling? That is why we have said that all homos in Takumi should worship only Rimam.
22. Now Obehira stood and said, we praise our ancestors because they gave the battle to us to win. Shall we not fulfill our vows to them? And we have even promised them an eternal worship.
23. And the homos of Kuteb and Juku and the other ethnics said, it is against the law. Now you should cease this or else we shall turn our back against you and fight.
24. And the Ebirs said, we are ready to fight battle with you. For nothing shall stop us from performing our promise to the gods of our land.
25. And the day of battle was chosen. And the Ebirs practised hard every day. And Obehira had stroke when it was two days left for the battle. And the day of the battle was shifted forward.
26. And Obehira prayed to the gods again, saying, heal me before the date fixed for the battle. And Obehira was not healed even till the dawn of the day which was fixed. And he collapsed and died.
27. And Okehi his son took over. And he told the people, saying, the battle must take place. And when he went to the mountain side, he slept and went deep into sleep. And he felt the presence of a soul engulfing him.
28. And he felt some words speaking directly into his soul. And when he was about to awake from his sleep, he heard a voice saying, Aluna. And the name was reechoed two more times.
29. And Okehi awoke. And the words which went down into his was that he should depart the land of Takumi with his wife and children and go to the areas around Okerune to dwell, because through his lineage shall the greatest scribe of truth come to the earth. And it shall not be possible if he died in the war which he was about to fight. And Okehi arose that same night and left the rest of the soldiers where they were.
30. And he took his family and departed Takumi. And after many days, he arrived at the eastern sides of the land which Ebirs occupied before the farming and locust attacks. And Okehi found a land their, which was named after him.
31. And in Okehi, himself and his family worshipped their ancestors without restrictions.

Chapter Forty-Nine
1. There was a homo of the lineage of Akenta, the child of Rufu. And the name of this child was Imani. And Imani was one who wanted to know all things, for he was very observant.
2. Now he had elder brothers, but no sister. And he was the last of his father. And when Imani was two years old, he had checked all the things in the house closely.
3. Now his mother began to notice that he was very curious, therefore she did not keep him close to herself in her times of unclothedness. But his father and all his brothers had bathed with him several times, therefore he knew how they appear in their unclothedness. But only the unclothedness of his mother alone he had not seen.
4. Now when his mother took her bath, he went and hid in a place, for he had innocently thought in his mind that the structure of his mother should be the same in her unclothedness.
5. Now when Imani had seen his mother so well, he wondered, because he did not find any pipe beneath her. And he began to be worried in his innocence, being just three years old.
6. Now on a certain day when they all ate together, Imani held his own pipe with his hands and said, I have a pipe and father has his own pipe.
7. And all my brothers have their pipes also, but the pipe of my mother has disappeared. Now when they knew what he was saying, they wondered greatly. And they took him to the priests of the god called Rimam, saying, this child is from the devil. And the priest took him, saying, he shall be held in this place until his witchcraft shall be rid off him.
8. And the child was subjected to intense pain and food was denied him for two days. Now while Imani slept, his spirit body arose, for it was like the body of an aged homo.
9. And Imani said, what is my offence on earth? I said that which I observe, but I shall be destroyed. And the light said to him, the ignorance of the world is known in aberrations. For every abnormalities are considered by the homos as the work of the devil.
10. But what is the devil except ignorance? And who are those who feel troubled by the devil except the ignorant people. But those who are full of knowledge do not see abnormal things or anything at all as the work of the devil, for there is no devil as a living character.
11. But the differences in the head functions of the homos and animals are the things seen as the work of the devils by the humans. For when animals sound in an abnormal manner, that is a devil to the humans.
12. And when a sheep loves the company of the homos rather than that of the animals, it is seen as the work of a devil. And when the head codes of a homo is affected and he does things that are different from normal, this is also seen as the work of the devil.
13. And a goat which twists its upper lip upward playfully; and a pig which dabbles into the mire; and a little dog which spins around itself. And a little baby who speaks like an adult because of the kind of brain he has been gifted by nature.
14. And a dog which raises its mouth to kiss its owner, this is also seen as a possessed dog. And a cat which has left his owner to become a tout. And a baby who ceases to grow at the age of four.
15. All these abnormal occurrences of nature do you homos see as the work of a devil. But all these are wrong. Now Imani, you have been seen as a wizard for speaking what you observe.
16. And their ignorance have made them attempt to kill a future physician of Takumi. But you shall not be killed. For you shall be a great helper of those with bone deformities.
17. Now when Imani awoke, he arose and sneaked out of the house of the priest. And he went to meet a homo who was wise and good.
18. Now they could not find Imani. And they said that he became an owl and flew away. And the superstition was made to go from mouth to mouth. And the homo told Imani what they had said about him.
19. Now the homo killed chickens and sold them. Now when Imani was five years, he observed the bones of the chickens. And whenever anyone of the chickens had been entangled in neglected strands of hairs and ropes and dry grasses, their legs swelled so much.
20. And Imani said, surely there are things responsible for the swellings. For they remained swollen after he had taken away the entanglements. And Imani saw that the bones of the chickens were affected. And he treated the chickens until their legs were okay again.
21. And Imani rearranged the broken bones of chickens whose bones got broken.
22. And Imani began to observe the homos. And he said, I shall try my cure upon humans also. And when they brought one homo to the Guardian of Imani, he had a dislocstion.
23. And Imani who was only seven years old said, I shall refix the bones in their right place. And Imani killed a chicken and observed its bones.
24. And he dislocated the bones of the legs of the chicken at the knees. And he rearranged them. Then with the knowledge of that and with chants did he rearrange the bones of the homo brought.
25. And the manner which he did it was a mystery to them all. And Imani said, when a homo performs his own wonder, it should not be a wonder, because every homo in the world has come with his or her own wonder also.
26. And if I do my own wonder, do also your own wonder, rather than calling me a devil and seeking how you shall end my life. For wonders can never end upon the world. And not everyone can get to his own wonderland, because it is through hardwork and persistence a homo can get there.
27. Now these doings of Imani soon became a thing well known in the while of Takumi and nearby lands. For he taught many how to do it. And they healed those with bone defects with the method of Imani.
28. And his parents sought after him again when he was twenty years, for he was rich. But he did not go with his parents, saying, I have stood on my own when I was a child at three, why should I need you to depend on when I am already twenty?

lepasharon:
Otematum 4evergod3 is viewing oo

That thief eeh, I know he's so scared right now. He won't choose planet earth in his reincarnation if he hears that Otem is also in it. Ogboju olosa olori awon ole. DOCTUFOS has your complete story.