MaxInDHouse: All the demons got the idea when God declared judgment on the three rebels in the garden of Eden {Genesis 3:15} so everywhere they go fabricated or stage managed stories to fit in the narrative will be heard but Jesus' case is the authentic!
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Demons are to be blamed?
He said "demons got the idea".
So you are calling the original story of the African Virgin Mother Isis an idea from demons?
If only your forefathers from ancient Africa could read your words today.
They'd cover their heads in shame for what their children have become.
For over 5000 years before the Jesus of the Bible, the African Story of the Virgin of Isis has been in existence.
Have you heard of the Nag Hammadi Scriptures?
Have you heard of the Pyramid Texts?
Or have you forgotten that even the founder of your organization, Charles Taze first got his 1914 teaching by studying the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Egypt in Africa?
Image123: Start your church using Epic of Gilgamesh and let's see how many sinners you can save or sick people you can heal. We can evaluate after 5 years wasting your life. We're talking of what we have seen and handled, not what was read on Wikipedia or watched on Facebook.
MaxInDHouse: I only responded to you because it's my thread otherwise i don't like chatting with you because you and i can never ever be on the same page. Goodbye!
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Calm yourself down and learn from the valuable information budaatum is sharing with you.
MaxInDHouse: LIAR! Even a man or woman can call his/her own biological child names if the child misbehaves but only an insane will raise weapons to kill his or her own child due to the child's stupidity.
Learn from this wise illustration!
Exactly my point.
You have to first think about it, you don't have to smite a person before you become a murderer - that is why the key figure in organized crime is always called the MASTERMIND.
MaxInDHouse: Different fairytales about virgin giving birth to a son common in pagan traditions before the birth of Jesus. How come?
If one of them is a fairy tale, then all of them must be fairy tales.
You can't change a rule you didn't make.
What do you understand by the word "MYTH" ?
Many people like you may have this strong belief that "History, it is urged, is real, whereas a myth is fictional."
But in reality, through research into the old religions that existed before Christianity, we find out that the story of Jesus, Dionysus/Bacchus, Horus, Mythiras, etc are all MYTHS.
The virgin birth of Isis who gave birth to Horus is a story as OLD AS HUMANITY.
Isis was an ancient African Goddess who got pregnant by her husband Osiris after he was killed by his Brother Seth.
She got pregnant by Immaculate conception because it was after Osiris died that she became pregnant with Horus.
Isisi is the original Virgin Mother and I am proud to say that this story first came from AFRICA.
It is written on the stone walls in the temple of Luxor in Egypt.
You can go there today and see it for yourself.
Until you learn that everything the world has ever known FIRST CAME FROM AFRICA, you will continue to be a captive in the mental prison of your false god Yahweh.
MaxInDHouse: But i will never ever raise a weapon against my fellowman neither will i support anyone doing so.
That's enough evidence to show where i belong!
You don't have to raise a weapon to smite a person before you are guilty of murder.
It is on this Nairaland that you have threatened to "deal with" Courz.
It is on this Nairaland that you cannot speak without raining insults on people - you have called people MAD, STUPID, ODE/FOOLISH, etc.
It is still you that believes a time will come when your god would destroy billions of humans who are not Jehovah's Witnesses and then after that, you and other Jehovah's Witnesses will bury these dead bodies and take over the lush properties of some of these billion people who have been murdered by your god.
Your thoughts, words and action on Niarland reeks of insults, destruction and mass murder by your god.
MaxInDHouse: So in a nutshell you deliberately lied, shey? Thanks for your time!
Here we go again.
Another round of beating around the bush.
Since you're waiting for me to teach you English, I will gladly oblige.
This is what I said:
Watchtower - God told us with proof that the world would be destroyed in 1975.
This is what Watchtower, the "only true religion" said in the Awake! of1966 Oct 8 pp. 19 - 20:
"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation?
Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975.
It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end".
Here is another statement from Watchtower, the "only true religion":
"The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E.
According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E.
So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence.
How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants!
This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ.
It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence."
Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30
SopaterOfBeroea: That era had James Penton, Carl Oloff Jonsson and Ray Franz. Both three were sound and reasonable men who woke up to the quagmire of the Borg.
"Does God's rest day parallel the time man has been on earth since his creation?
Apparently so. In what year, then, would the first 6,000 years of man's existence and also the first 6,000 years of Gods rest day come to an end? The year 1975.
It means that within a relatively few years we will witness the fulfilment of the remaining prophecies that have to do with the "time of the end".
"The published timetable resulting from this independent study gives the date of man's creation as 4026 B.C.E.
According to this trustworthy Bible chronology six thousand years from man's creation will end in 1975, and the seventh period of a thousand years of human history will begin in the fall of 1975 C.E.
So six thousand years of man's existence on earth will soon be up, yes, within this generation. So in not many years within our own generation we are reaching what Jehovah God could view as the seventh day of man's existence.
How appropriate it would be for Jehovah God to make of this coming seventh period of a thousand years a sabbath period of rest and release, a great Jubilee sabbath for the proclaiming of liberty throughout the earth to all its inhabitants!
This would be most timely for mankind. It would also be most fitting on God's part, for, remember, mankind has yet ahead of it what the last book of the Holy Bible speaks of as the reign of Jesus Christ over earth for a thousand years, the millennial reign of Christ.
It would not be by mere chance or accident but would be according to the loving purpose of Jehovah God for the reign of Jesus Christ, the 'Lord of the Sabbath,' to run parallel with the seventh millennium of man's existence."
Life Everlasting in Freedom of the Sons of God 1966 pp.26-30
Go and study the Bible CRITICALLY analysing what made the Jews reject Jesus and his teachings in the first century then you can come back and tell me if what most people today are calling true religion that was established by Jesus and his disciples is truly worth it if we're to go by your thinking!
MaxInDHouse: I'm not talking about you but the OP and his cohorts, they're the ones setting goals for God's people.
From their point of view God's people shouldn't have any wrong expectations they should perfectly understand God's plan for salvation.
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Here we go again.
This your modus operandi.
According to your own doctrines, in 1919 out of all the existing religions in the entire planet, Jesus selected your organization to be the ONE TRUE RELIGION.
As the ONE TRUE RELIGION, does it not mean that all of your teachings must be the TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH?
We must hold you responsible by own your standards.
So how can the only true religion be teaching LIES?
Your organization boldly prophesied that the world would be destroyed in 1975 - nobody forced you, this was a bold statement because according to your organization, this was a TRUE information that came DIRECTLY FROM GOD.
Courz: Oteneaaron and others viewing this thread, this is one video showing how the 1975 false prophecy affected the JWs negatively. Some JWs even came out to question one of their Watchtower leaders and were carrying placards in front of the Headquarters to protest. I will post the next video in my next comment.
At the end of the day, irrespective of whatever beliefs anyone chooses to subscribe to…sincerely love God and your fellow man. Don’t lie to one another.
Be good, not because of what you are expecting in return, but because it is in your very nature to want to do good. (Remember goodness is a part of the fruit of the Spirit)
If majority of humanity have this mindset, this world would be a much better place to live in and the fulfilment you seek won’t be far away.
It’s pointless arguing over doctrine if one is impure in heart and wicked.
The character is what matters, not what you label yourself as.
I’ll prefer a honest Muslim with excellent character to be my room mate, than live on even the same street with a wicked and greedy Christian.
My two cents. Peace and one love!
I completely agree with you.
We are in reality all ONE.
We are ALL part and parcel of an omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent universal mind.
If I do harm to another man like myself, I am indirectly hurting myself too.
But unfortunately, religion as a concept, has made us forget this simple fact, instead it has been is used as a tool to tear use more apart.
OkCornel: A picture explaining the relationship between Oteneaaron and the JW.
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Their Governing Body discourages "independent thinking".
But how do you do research to study the past and not become an "independent thinker"?
Their greatest enemy are very own publications.
It is quite sad really.
Currently, there are millions of people who give their entire lives, money, and time to the Watchower Organization - whose foundations are clearly not sturdy, but instead filled with LIES.
Courz: No I wasn't there. My parents and their siblings were there. In fact, some of my relatives left because of the False prophecy while my parents are still in. Nothing like selling of property for my side o. When I ask my parents about it, they will just brush it off like it is insignificant. Power of Cognitive Dissonance. Back then, they were also kicking against Secondary school education.
Wow.
I agree with you that Cognitive Dissonance is the biggest baggage of a Jehovah's Witness.
Their minds are captives of a concept.
That is why I am very bullish about doing research and learning from history - without bias.
So much has happened over the years that we must learn about.
And this not just about the history of Jehovah's Witnesses, but the history of Religion, Civilization, and the Universe in its totality.
As an ancient Sumerian once said - "The Future Lies in the Past"
We must study the past to understand the present and change the future.
MaxInDHouse: God's people have always anticipate God's Kingdom and God never condemn any of His people for wrong expectations. Only Jesus Christ who is a perfect worshiper of God never had wrong expectations but as for all other servants of God WRONG EXPECTATIONS has been peculiar with all of them. So complaining about wrong expectations shows that you don't even know anything about God's people!
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Funny man.
Imagine such bald faced whitewashing!
Imagine the nerve to call a proven FALSE PROPHECY a "wrong expectation".
This is just 1975 oo, I have not even talked about 1914 and 1925.
Courz: My own JW parents and non JW Relations all know about the False Prophecy. They experienced it. They were there live! I am surprised there are JWs denying it. It is a complete waste of time to deny it.
What was it like?
What did your family loose in preparation for the 9175 Armageddon?
Courz: It wasn't just to recruit more members. It was also to fatten their bank accounts. It was their pattern to come up with false prophecies whenever they lose a lot of members and their bank accounts are drying up. Less members = Red account balance. Freemason JWs reported that their false prophecies are mainly driven by Money! Monkey dey work, Baboon dey chop.
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Yes na.
More Members = More Money - from monetary contributions and more distribution of their "food at the proper time"
To be honest, their buisness model is very effective.
Religion is such a powerful tool in the hands of men.
Courz: No JW with their senses intact can come here to deny any of these. Why did they have to lie that they never made such False prophecy when their old publications have everything recorded? It is too late to lie. False Prophets as foretold by Jesus.
Lol.
I am waiting to hear from them.
Even my own parents never knew about about this false prophecy of 1975.
The day I showed my mum this shocking evidence, she almost felt like fainting.
Why did the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses have to claim the world would end in 1975?
Well, I have evidence backed by data that proves that they did this as a massive campaign to recruit new members.
The growth rate of publishers before and after 1975 proves the significance of 1975 for Jehovah's Witnesses and the affect of Armageddon's failure to eventuate at that time.