Many of this people that see people in hell need to be asked if the judgement day is past?

We are in the end time, agree as Jesus said but I don't think God has passed judgement and sent people to hell yet.

By my own understnding of some vision, they are mare illusion, and expression of sentiment about what they belive.

Pastor Odukoya might be pretending to be woman of God or not, but the basic thing in my own scriptural understnding is only GOd judge no man.

Hell is still to come for those who do not accept Chriost as their Lord and saviour.

Matt. 24: 32 "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: "

Is the Climate change not another Sign?
Where will you be when Jesus come?

There is something about Holy SPirit. It possess people and when he left them thay might not know. King Saul was once with god until,

Samson hardly knew that God spirit is no longer present in him when he said I will go ,

Dear Kunle, I think you are right to some extent in your allusion to the existance of false teachers.  However, this does not provide us immunity on going against the will of God.  Timothy says: "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." - 2Tim. 2:15. The fact that people are not doing it right does not remove the fact that it must be done.

Yes those people at that time are mostly into farming of one kind or the others but there are also people of other skills.  Another fact is that tithes can be converts to money if it is more convinient that way for the payer.  Tithe is all about increase.  Farmer or no farmer, we all have areas where God increase us in substance.

It must also be noted that God is building a people who would be employers of labour not servants.  However, the secrete of tithe is to launch the payer into that propperity God had for them.  It is clear in the book of Malachi that tithe payer will not experience losses.  The issue at hand is paying tithe in the way God intends the concept.

1He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

2I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.

4He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.

5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;

6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.

7A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.

8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;

10There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

---- Psalms 91---

You should have told him his name is LUCIFER.

All of you oya come to your deliverance night!

Dear Kunle, I am happy you finanlly agree that tithes is a pronouncement from God to His people. You will also agree with me that tithes is the 10% of our Increase.

On the way tithes should be used, one thing was communicated here, it must be taken to the house of God and not to the house of the needy. Another thing similar to this is who must eat the tithes, people of God.

From the passage you quoted, you will also see that it is an interpretation to the procedure for bringing the tithes. ANd there are 2 forms of tithes that is expressed here. the first one is the regular tithes that must be brought to the house of God every harvest year and the other is a form of tithe that must be giving to the priest every 3 years.
the yearly tithes must be brought to church for people of God to eat before the Lord while the other is meant for the servants of God.
I have a project on this particular topic, it is in progress. I will love to have your mail address I could forward the draft to you for your comment if you would not mind.

I have hard testimonies of the supposed "real Muslims" Elehas (Those muslim women that wears covers all over their body) accessing miracles in the RCCG camps. Though for the fear of their alfas, they sneak to the camp. But there is one I withness myself. Most faith homes are where the Elehas access for their delivery during child birth. Even the alfas are aware of this.

If you think you need to find out about this I will recommend you go to most CAC, RCCG and other christian faith CLinics.

Who is deceiving who. Many of the so called muslim leaders are like that ruler that came to Jesus at night (John 3:2). Muhammed did not know the way but Jesus is the way,
Why choose to be a foool?

Be wise, shine your eyes

What is tithes:
My most considered definition of tithes according to the word of God is that : tithe, a mandatory sacrifice in goods or monetary form giving at the appointed year of tithes to any man of God to fulfill our part in the covenant of blessing and prosperity made to us by the good God.

There is a clear difference between ALMS and Tithes. Alms though considered very important in our service to God is not in nayway rule out the commandment of God.

In my observation, we find out that many are stingy and so they hide under the N5 they give to begger as doing good. Those beggers are not even happy with what you give to them. Helping the poor is outside your tithes. Before you help anyone form your income, it is important to note that God must be considered first.

So to get us to real meaning and definition of tithes, from the biblical declaration, the tithe definition in its broadest sense means a tenth of one’s INCREASE – Deuteronomy 14:22. That is the broadest definition of tithe that should be accepted by most of the population of God’s people.

We must also see discard any interpretation giving by any body apart from GOd. The correct tithe must consider the correct definition, the purpose, and limitations.

Conclusively, we must know that God never accept our discretion above His command or Word.

Our God reigns

May God Reign in your life.

So RCCG now use outright, lies, manipulation, deception, fear , playing to people's emotion and cheap or free advertisement to lure people into their holy scams, what is the correlation between this thread title, Will You Still Make Heaven If Pastor Adeboye Miss Heaven? and the business invitation you gave us above. ?

Don't you know that RCCG is not all about Adeboye, But all about Jesus christ.

Please be there, God will DV meet with you. that I am sure as sure is sure,

My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.

, and if something stops the relationship before marriage, you get another man and on and on until you finally get to the right place.

You need to listen to yourself.  I am not a saint but anyone that covers sin cannot prosper.  Fornication is sex where there is no marraige contract.

If your younger sister age 16 decide to make friend with another boy and they told you they will marry, will you give them your room to have sex?

There cannot be commitment without going throught the normall procedure it takes.

If you are already doing it repent.  and restitute your way.

My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.

, and if something stops the relationship before marriage, you get another man and on and on until you finally get to the right place.

You need to listen to yourself.  I am not a saint but anyone that covers sin cannot prosper.  Fornication is sex where there is no marraige contract.

If your younger sister age 16 decide to make friend with another boy and they told you they will marry, will you give them your room to have sex?

There cannot be commitment without going throught the normall procedure it takes.

If you are already doing it repent.  and restitute your way.

My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.

, and if something stops the relationship before marriage, you get another man and on and on until you finally get to the right place.

You need to listen to yourself.  I am not a saint but anyone that covers sin cannot prosper.  Fornication is sex where there is no marraige contract.

If your younger sister age 16 decide to make friend with another boy and they told you they will marry, will you give them your room to have sex?

There cannot be commitment without going throught the normall procedure it takes.

If you are already doing it repent.  and restitute your way.

My point is, if you are committed to be married to someone, then having sex with that person does not mean you are a fornicator.

, and if something stops the relationship before marriage, you get another man and on and on until you finally get to the right place.

You need to listen to yourself. I am not a saint but anyone that covers sin cannot prosper. Fornication is sex where there is no marraige contract.

If your younger sister age 16 decide to make friend with another boy and they told you they will marry, will you give them your room to have sex?

There cannot be commitment without going throught the normall procedure it takes.

If you are already doing it repent. and restitute your way.

Is this tudor a scientist? Yet Nija they import even tooth pick.

anyway sha:
Jesus is Lord

The Bible is supposed to teach morals and discourage immoral acts. But what I see in the Bible is different.
Let's check out the following verses:

Genesis 9: 20-27: Noah (A Prophet of God) got drunk and stripped himself naked.

Genesis 19:30-38: Lot (A Prophet of God) had sexual intercourse with his daughter who became pregnant and had children for him.

Judges 16: 1-2: Samson slept with a harlot.

No wonder d Western world which derived it's morality from the Bible is so animalistic and uncultured dat in d United States of America, Statistics revealed that there is a rape every 5 minutes. Hmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.

I am happy you study the scripture to have reach this conclusion. Why not read 2 Timothy 3:16, this will help you go further in your conclusion.

Peace with you.

Also remember:

Make sure you do not die in ignorance. Seek good knowledge.
Don't be a foooool.

Peace be upon you all!

Haven't you heard, the theiving bastard called pastor Adeboye is already in HELL spiritually. What is left is for physical manifestation.

Pastor Adeboye is a blessing to humanities. No one must curse a man of God. Just make your way to the next Holy ghost Congress may be you will be saved.

Shalom!

The Redeemed Christian Church of God
Invites your Presence to her:
Holy Ghost Congress.
Theme: Our God Reigns
Date: 14th – 19th December, 2009.
Venue: Redemption Camp, KM 46, Lagos-Ibadan Expressway.

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

Hebbrews 12:2

Adeboye was abroad with pastor Ojo for a program when he got the news, he then sent pastor Ojo(guess redeemers will know him better) immidiately back to represent him.

Please be sure of what you say.

He did not attend but he sent delegate to the burial not Pastor Ojo.
I think the most important now is:

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Invites your Presence to her:
Holy Ghost Congress.
Theme: Our God Reigns
Date: 14th – 19th December, 2009.
Venue: Redemption Camp, KM 46, Lagos-Ibadan Expressway.

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please do you mind telling me where God asked christians to pay tithes and where He commanded it to be done daily,weekly or monthly

Are christians different from Abraham children? Please go check the geneology of Jesus christ.

God is the author of tithes, He commanded it to be given. God has not asked too much from us but because man are naturally greedy it become a heavy yoke. Many are not experiencing prosperity that God promise. A Christian who pays his tithes as commanded by God must not struggle to survive financially. Our God that I know, I mean Jehovah is not an author of confusion.
Devil is the author of confusion and he is so subtle that he never say God never say this or that; instead he add or subtract form what God says. That is why today in Christianity today, you cannot see a unify doctrine. Was this the thought of Jesus Christ? Our Lord Jesus Christ wants us to be one and this was how the early church started, they continue in fellowship. Churches may have different names and brands but I strongly object to any church operating outside the doctrine of God. What I am saying is that put a checklist of what God requires form His worshippers, if your church does and teaches contrary, your indicator must be showing a danger sign. No other view is superior to God’s view on any matter.