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Vikkie14:
Please Speak for Algeria alone. If that's what fuel Terrorism in your country, that's not what's fuelling ours. BH wasn't as a result of "Economic Hardship"(Poverty), the internet is there for you to garner what led to their Rebellion against the Nigerian State.
And BTW, has the bombing and killings and maiming HELP or DESTROY the Economic Prosperity(poverty eradication) of where all these terrorists operates the world over??

Was that what fuels the Algerian Gas Facility siege and hostage taking in 2013 by Moktar Belmoktar
You know better than to be speaking like someone with a shallow military/political knowledge.

Yes! Just like the POVERTY that drove those Americans and European citizens including deserters from the french military, into joining ISIS right
That "Poverty" must be a Strong One.



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no matter how vigorously you try to disproove it, the textbook fact remains the same: poverty and lack of basic necessities are the root cause of most insurgencies. Insurgents are not rich people. They are poor radicalised people seeking for a better means to an end by taking up arms against the government. Overtime they begin to raise their own revenue through kidnapping, raids and loyalties or sponsorship. Book Haram fighter used arrows and dagars to operate in their early days until they began to raise funds to purchase much needed equipments to overrun police stations and later military installations. Majority of the youths in the NE live below poverty, they are uneducated and feed on the hand outs they get from the gates of big Alhaji's who they in return, help with menial job and stay loyal to. This boys are easily recruited into Book Haram and even if as we speak Bongo Haram gets a new sponsor and need to recruit 10,000 hardliners they will get them because people are ready to do anything to escape poverty. Or did we forget that even youths from the South where the grasses are greener often attempt to cross the Sahara Desert even after they have been shown countless pictures of dried up cadavers in the desert. When poverty is below poverty, there is nothing that people won't do to escape it.

If people from developed countries could join insurgent groups then you should have no doubt that the poor uneducated youths that abound in the dusty corners of this earth where insurgents recruits, will have no problem joining up.

There is no need to tell anybody that they don't have political knowledge because they say insurgency is poverty related because a politician that is just killing his poor people because they are taking up arms, instead of empowering them will end up killing everybody.

Nok234:
http://saharareporters.com/2017/02/10/nigeria-says-boko-haram-affiliate-muslim-brotherhood-planning-massive-terror-attacks

I think that I more and more Understand US policy, we have to stop this and strick those groups before they enter in our country, now we have the brotherhood from ... All of this look like a world war ...
Nigeria must let the saoudis with all they toys and countries that are ready to sell them everything they want I dont see any strategy going there, for we must attack groups in Mali, Lybia, Egypte, and Somalia & be very careful with two country Soudan&Iran What do you think ?

true talk. We need to use our Gun Boat Diplomacy against Egypt so they will allow us to attack terror groups within their borders. Where is the Centenary? Oh wait. They ve got submarines, they ve got frigates they even have an fxxxing mistral class carrier. Let's just leave them man its not worth it, lets take our boat to Mali. Oh! So you mean there is no sea near Mali? Ok let's just go back home and wait for the basta#d terrorists, Let's stop killing minority religious groups like the Shites, let us form joint anti terror accords with these countries just like the one that exist between Israel and Egypt
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/05/israel-egypt-security-cooperation-netanyahu-livni-nuclear.html read about its successes here.
Starting a joint anti terror effort that includes country from west and north Africa affected by terrorism would go a long way in reducing all this cross border crimes committed daily by this groups.

tdayof:
Yes I still don't get.

the centenary is an element of the wider West African maritime security structure which involves all coastal western african states.

tdayof:
What are you saying? Then Boko Haram terrorist are Ghanians if that's how we claim things?
Moreover we only share maritime border with Ghana.

you still don't get it?

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Fidha254:
Intelligence inside Kenya used to be a big problem but not of late, and even in the past when attacks used to happen on kenyan soil very frequently, its not that there was not intelligence, its because the NIS used to just hand oit dossiers and brief to the police (this was after the NIS was stripped off powers and their only job was to gather intelligence and hand it over to police) the police use to read it and see nothing specific (like an attack will happen in the city in june on a school -no specific date or which school)
but this largly changed after the head of military intelligence who had been dealing with alshabaab in somalia was made head of NIS, and all departments dealling with Counter terrorisn CT were brought together to work as one unit when responding to local terrorism, that means NIS can gather intelligence then use paramilitary specOps to carry out raids without having to deal with lots of beaurocracy....



About intelligence in somali through military intelligence, that has never been a problem, if you look at it, every attack on a KDF camp, there has always been prior intelligence on imminent attack, what happened in el-adde was just poor response and bad call from the officer in charge.....
There are always reorts of prior intelligence on almost all attacks by alshabaab, just yesterday alshabaab executed 2 of its members for spying for Kenya and Somalia......

even an account from the commander of Kulbiyow camp gives you details of prior intelligence ..

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Major Denis Girenge, the commander of the Kenya Defence Forces camp at Kulbiyow that was attacked by Al-Shabaab on January 27 has for the first time given a blow-by-blow account of the battle against the estimated 1,000 militants.
The major, whose narrative was backed by footage shot by a drone that the military showed to the Sunday Nation, said a day earlier he received a call from an officer based at the Hulugho camp manned by KDF soldiers, who reported strange movements about 12km away that they suspected were Al-Shabaab militants.
“We concluded that they were planning to attack either my camp or Hulugho because from that point, we were 14km away while Hulugho was 18 kilometres away,” said Major Girenge.
He added: “I decided to send out a patrol at night, 5km north of my position so that they could spot an enemy approaching.
"At 6 pm I called my men and briefed them. We reconfigured our defence to replace the men who had gone out.”
At 3am one of the sentries informed him about some movements, like a heavy vehicle was moving.
Major Girenge estimated it was 8km away.
“After some minutes the movement stopped and there was none at all. We decided we should call surveillance guys.
"We had tried to call the locals to ask if they had spotted anything but none of their phones were going through,” he said.
The surveillance team at Hulugho dispatched Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, better known as drones, for the surveillance mission.
The drones were airborne within 10 minutes and from his command centre at the camp, the Major was monitoring images relayed from the skies.
“At around 3.30am I saw a sizable group in a bush, about 80 guys and it’s like they were receiving a briefing. We got the grid and laid our weapons including mortars and hit the place,” said Major Girenge.
THE ATTACK
It disrupted their meeting and they all rose and started running towards the camp.
“We were about 4km away. We could see them from the drone images.
"We kept on hitting but the group kept on increasing and we established that many other people had crept in, in groups during the day and were hiding in the bushes,” added Major Girenge.
At that point he called his commander in Manda and informed him that the numbers of the attackers was increasing by the minute despite the relentless firing.
The group then stopped at a village called Bulaqoqon, which is about 1.5 kilometres from the camp, and started marching towards the camp after about 10 minutes.
“At this point their number was a thousand plus. But before they began moving again, they all bowed to the ground and started praying.
"We could see all that from the drone. We hit them at that point and they started moving,” Major Girenge said.
By 5.15am the group was 800 metres away from the camp’s first line of defence positions.
“I ordered my men to open their small arms, and start hitting them. All this time they had not fired back. Until about 5.45am they fired the first shot.
"So I reported to CO (commanding officer) that we have established contact. My commander told me he has already scrambled aircrafts and they would be taking off,” said the major.
He went on: “The battle was on and everybody was busy. One soldier called me on radio and his exact words were Afande iko VBIEDs zinakuja, (Sir there are Vehicle Borne Improvised Explosive Devices approaching).”
A VBIED is simply a bomb on wheels.
“I told him to engage 84 mm calibre weapon which we use to destroy heavy vehicles. He fired and it exploded outside.
"The explosion was so massive and that changed the scenario. It created a gap and suicide bombers followed,” said Major Girenge.
The explosion created a massive impact because fragments were felt in a radius of 200 meters.
FAKE PHOTOS
Another two VBIEDS approached the camp but they never penetrated the defence lines after they were taken out by high calibre weapons.
“The explosion was massive and I believe that is what led to the number of casualties we sustained,” added Major Girenge.
Sitting on a bench outside his ward at the Defence Forces Memorial Hospital in Nairobi, he continued to narrate the events without batting an eyelid.
The battle-hardened soldier has fought in Somalia starting with his time at the rank of Captain.
He was in Kismayu in 2012 and the company he was leading had also taken Fafadun from Al-Shabaab in the same year.
Col Kenneth Mungai answers questions during an interview with Nation at Defence Forces Memorial Hospital in Nairobi on February 4, 2017. PHOTO | ANTHONY OMUYA | NATION MEDIA GROUP
At 6.15am one of the pilots called him to say that he was getting into the aircraft and would be overhead in 30 minutes.
“At 7;45 am I heard the first choppers overhead. By 7am all guns were silent and I could hear a few remnants shouting as they pulled their bodies and run away.
"I called Army operations to say firing had ceased and we are consolidating and asked choppers to come in and help casualties,” added Mjr Girenge.
By 9am rescue helicopters had come and I was among the first to be airlifted.
He sustained gunshot wounds on his left arm, legs and lower abdomen.
Asked about the contradicting reports that the camp was overrun, the major burst out in laughter.
“I was at the camp until the last minute. If it was overrun I would not be here right now talking to you. I would be somewhere dead.
"We defended the camp to the last minute. It is Al-shabaab who ran away,” he said.
Regarding images posted by Al-Shabaab terrorist and their sympathisers, showing burning military tanks, he added.
“There were no tanks at Kolbiywo so those images are from somewhere else. They left immediately the aircrafts started firing.
"If anybody would have withdrawn from that camp, it would have fallen. We would be having a different story today.
"The only people who were out are those who were on patrol. I have since established they are well,” said Mjr Girenge.
STILL ALIVE
There were also claims that the command had fallen and the commanding officer either dead or taken prisoner by Shabaab.
He said: “I am the OC (Officer Commanding) and so claims that I died, that I went with Shabaab should not even be considered. I am right here.”
The Major, together with another officer of equal rank, and three Captains, commanded a total of 250 soldiers at the camp.
The core unit, comprised of the C-Company of the 15 KR based at Mariakani.
Other supporting units were Battery Pac Howitzer (artillery battery that specialises in heavy weapons), Section mortars and Engineers.
The team was deployed to Somalia on December 28, last year.
Official KDF reports shows 21 personnel died.
The initial report said nine KDF personnel were killed and the senior medical officer at the military hospital Col (Dr) Kenneth Mungai said 12 others died while undergoing treatment.
He added: “We received 44 personnel with injuries. Most of them were bullet injuries. We have since discharged 20 of them. So we still have others in hospital. Most of them required surgery.”
Major Girenge dismissed the Al-Shabaab propaganda figure of more than 50 dead as the usual terrorists’ trick of “blowing things out of proportion”.
Major Girenge is ready to go back to Somalia after leaving hospital.
The narrative given to the Sunday Nation was backed by drone footage that the military said gave a true picture of the events.
Major Girenge came back with a souvenir that will forever remind him of the war.
It is his smart phone with a bullet hole right through the middle.
Corporal Amani Ramadhan, another battle hardened soldier saw four of his men go down.
He was the section commander and in charge at the first line of defence.
“We were well prepared, the defence was organised. This was not a surprise because we had information. In terms of equipment we were prepared,” said Corporal Ramadhan.
Corporal Amani Ramadhan speaks to the Nation at Defence Forces Memorial Hospital in Nairobi on February 4, 2017. He saw four of his men go down. PHOTO | ANTHONY OMUYA | NATION MEDIA GROUP
RELENTLESS SOLDIERS
When the first VBIED arrived at 6am, he ordered the men under his command to shoot the driver.
“The aim was to kill the driver and unfortunately we were not able to. After two minutes there was a heavy and loud explosion and it suddenly became dark like the night.
"All trees around were uprooted. I was only 30 metres away. I think I was the first victim. I lost a finger,” he said.
He, however, continued fighting along with a colleague he identifies as Sergeant Asiz, who was firing using a mounted machine gun.
“He told me he had fired the last bullet in the belt. I gave him another belt. He was shot as he loaded it. But he stood up and went on.
"He fired again before he was shot thrice. Then Corporal Mwakio was using an M4 and I told him to drop it and take over at the machine gun. He spotted another VBIED,” said Cpl Ramadhan.
He went on: “I told him to shoot the driver because if they came closer we would die. He shot the target and it exploded at a good distance. There was a third VBIED and it took another direction.”
Unfortunately Corporal Mwakio was also shot thrice and fell.
Two men were left with him Private Nguyo and Corporal Ouma who from their positions they were not able to take the machine gun.
They also died in battle.
As the Corporal lay still injured, he saw Al-shabaab fighters load bodies of their dead fighters on two lorries.
He estimates more than 200 bodies were loaded on trucks.
“At no time was the camp overran. They ran away. If it was overran then we would not be here. Rescue aircraft were able to land. To me in my estimate we killed over 200.”
“The bodies were piled until the lorries were full. Those are the only ones I saw but there were other,” said Corporal Ramadhan.
brave soldiers fought their last battle - VIDEOThe only people who were out are those who were on patrol. I have since established they are well,” said Mjr Girenge.

they fought like true African warriors. Although Air support came in late.

thats a man. not that one that all he knows is to fuGk women and get them pregnant.
I was an ardent 2face fakn before but now i nor fit use ear hear him song.

Kassidy90:
Stadium
Plural =stadia

WOW YOU ARE SO BRILLIANT.

Tinfoil:
Stop being stupid

oh you two are so cute.

MikeCZA:
South Africa has been developing missiles since the 70s.

I don't see how that is a threat to Nigeria.

exactly what I am saying. imagine that kind of dumb threat assessment. they didn't use the missile against us when we disagreed with them on apartheid issues it's now that both countries are at peace that we should be bothered about them. instead of talking about partnership he is foreseeing threats that do not exist. because it is today that our defence planners heard that the south Africans are building Missiles.

just come.

no wonder.

2face is a Nyash

what were we going to do inside the stadia before na match we wan watch. abeg we will go on with the protest

darknetcom:
let the drama begin... ..

me?..am staying at home till tomorrow..

i dont want to die.. ..

a stray bullet dont care who it hits...

no thank you.. .

make una go hug trees...

i should get my self killed because of a radio broadcaster and a entertainer??...tufiakwa..'spits'...

stay at home Coward. evil reigns in a world of cowards. all the bullets I'm the Nigerian police armoury won't stop the cries of the suffering Nigerian public. Death is a sure thing for everyone but here is a chance to choose how you want to die, for glory or for dust.

bantudra:
i see alpha jets as manned drones with co-pilot..

i played alot of rally races games...i know how important a co-pilot is...

drones??...well drones...i dont know..but drones are a very dangerous game in a world that hates itself...

the 2nd world war will be nothing compared to the 3rd world war...

the same way the 1st world war is nothing compared to the 2nd world war..

which mad person is controlling the drones??.

or you wan give control to maschines terminator style.....

what makes you think a maschine would like you??..

maschines are logical,humans are not....

Tell me about it. I served as a special force operator in the US armed forces in Call of Duty Black ops and Battlefields. Wish I got a medal for all that operations I would like the guy below.

NaijaTalkTown:
@overhypedsteve First of all (and this is very important) stop calling me Sir. Call me Brother. I am your Nigerian brother.

Dear brother, what was the fate of Murtala Muhammed? How did he end up? To understand where I stand on this issue, please listen to Lagbaja's 200 million mumu part 1 and 3. Again I ask, what was Murtala Muhammed's fate? Jonathan was not anti-West but he was seen as an enemy in the West because he was pro-Nigerian. You can not deny that the election that brought Buhari into office was to some extents externally influenced by the West. Buhari took a pro-Nigerian stance too. He refused to take orders from IMF. Obama threatened him on live TV (he actually vowed to pressurize Buhari into devaluing the Naira). If we, all of us had stood by him and give middle fingers to the Westerners, our President would have remained loyal and patriotic. The Nation was divided. Those who know nothing about International Economics and Geopolitics were ranting and displaying their stupidity, arguing for the devaluation of the Naira simply because they hate Buhari. He had to bow to the pressure. The Russians, the Persians, the North Koreans, they are patriotic to the bone. They know who to side with. 200 million Nigerians, na mumu all of us be. We dey side oyinbo wey dey make life tough for us. Our leaders go wan help us, we go help oyinbo frustrate them.

And I no go ever support lionel4power. Lai lai! Our soldiers, our airmen and fearless sailors, their own job na to use their lives protect our own lives. Their salary no reach, their weapon no reach, people dey use them play politics, media the bash them but still, them still gree make them die make we for live. Bros I no go ever support anybody wey go berate them one way or the other. That one na lie! If he thinks our military na stone age military, make him go confront government. Make him no come dey berate our brave men and women for where everybody dey celebrate their own. You get my point? You understand my view now?

I didn't see where he did that. Pardon me for calling you Sir. I thought you were a Male.

NaijaTalkTown:
Thank you very much for this wonderful comment. It is from people like you that I learn new things from. We were talking about military facts not political facts. We must accept America and every other country the US Deep State can use to destroy us as our friends. It is demoralizing to call them our masters so I call them our friends. Iran is one of the few countries to openly defy the US and even dump the Petro-Dollar, yet Iran is still standing strong not because of their air-to-air missiles. Not because of Russia (if US drops tactical nukes on Iranian facilities, Russia will not retaliate military. Russia would never risk Moscow for Tehran). Not because of China but because the Persions know who their enemies are and they are united and strong against these enemies. Look at countries like Iraq, Libya etc. Do you want Nigeria to be like them? We are not united as a nation. If we attempt to build our military to a stage where we become a threat to US interests in West Africa, bros you know wetin go happen na. 100 years from now, we will not be able to meet up with our colonial masters (friends). So bros, leave matter for Mattias because we don try well well no be small.

you are wrong again. India is doing well as a country even better than most western powers and they used to be under the same colonial leadership we escaped from. Nigeria with or without a strong military have always been a threat to US interest in not just West Africa but Africa as a whole. Its just that people know so little about their own history and see little reason why Nigeria needs to be a power. I reiterate that you do not have a friend with the West, we never had and may never do. In the 1950s during our Nationalists struggle Britain needed a Base in Nigeria to protect Nigeria from communist threats but in reality it was just an attempt to draw her new vassal into the cold war. We accepted it initially so we could be granted Independence and then we kicked against it after Independence. That's seemed to be our last chance of friendship with the West, from Independence our leaders of that time(God Bless them ) made it clear that any such neo colonialist move would not be welcomed by Nigeria.
Post 1960 our foreign policy became that of supporting the various nationalist struggle in Africa, what this meant is that we entered into a direct fight against Western interest in Africa and we succeeded successfully pushing them back away from Africa. Did we become like Libya or Iraq because of that? The west lost up to 50 billion dollars in asset when they finally left Africa for good thanks to Nigerian effort. During the Angolan struggle Murtala defied the advice by the west( even Henry Kissinger himself flew to Nigeria) to ask Nigeria to avoid the OAU meeting on the Angolan issue but while MM was still deliberating Joe Garba ( the Nigerian solider turn Diplomat, and the only foreign minister that have ever made us proud) came up with a speech which later became known as The Africa reawakening speech. It was said that when Murtala read that speech he stood up immediately and asked Joe to forget about going for the AU conference that he would go there as the Nigerian Head of State and read the Speech himself( you can watch the speech online and see for yourself how anti western it was) he delivered the speech and declared support for the communist backed MPLA most of the African leaders saw it as ridiculous but followed Nigeria leadership and did the same.

Have Nigeria ever deployed troops or assets in a fight against western Interest? Yes.
Henry Kissinger submitted a report to the joint Chief of Staff that 8 Nigerian MIG fighter jets were deployed in Angola aiding the war against western Hegemony in Southern Africa (This are not claims Sir, this documents are available online as they have been declassified).


Sir, even small Nations can make a stand against big powers and your Country Nigeria is a very good example of a Nation that have constantly stood against the west. The West would not sell us Conventional attack fighters and long range Jets not because they think we will use it to attack other African States, no. They are aware of our love for Africa. They will not sell them to us because it would pose a direct threat to their bases and deployments in Africa which are generally anti Nigerian. Believe you me. We have a place to stand if we choose to oppose the west. You just do not see it. Too many American films which are tools of propaganda may have influenced the thinking of most New Generation Patriots.
The true patriots however are in Iran and North Korea building their Nations based on the values they believe in and not the ones imposed on them. Do we have a better standard of leaving than them based on this? No.


Lionel was not wrong we need a stronger Country. Our Threat Assessments are made by arm chair losers. Even someone sitting at hone could make a better threat assessment. The fact that you have 180 million people to protect alone is reason enough to have a strong defence force. The day that Russian Submarine surface at the coast of Lagos during an excercise that we knew nothing about, our Naval officers watched and were dumbfounded because they could not wrap their brain around such sophistication. The Russians assessed our Military and knew we had nothing that posed a threat to their asset so they decided that it was the perfect place to test their new equipments aboard that Submarine. Did we include such scenarios when we drafted a new threat assessment report after that time? No. We just said "the Russians are our friends they just like testing their submarines near us" our threat assessment is obsolete and even for the COIN war we are fighting if that's were our interest lies the you would agree with me that we ve done little in that area also. How can at this age and tie somebody will be proudly saying that we have Vicker tanks and we are cool. Truth be told there is no way Nigeria could have single handedly put up a show like the Senegalese in Gambia because we just do not have the equipments to field. We lack a lot in that area and it would be foolhardy for yound men like you and me who would be in charge of things in the future not to know this.

NaijaTalkTown:
Not just France, the US too. But we have friendly relationship with them. We hold joint drills with them on CT from time to time. It does not make sense to compare and contrast our military with that of France and the United States of America. The US is a hegemony, France is a US vassal while Nigeria is a regional power. Different Nations, different resources, different military doctrines. Turkey is a NATO member but that did not stop them from working together in Syria. I am tired of schooling you guys. I no go reply you again o!

nor vex Sir. but this thing wey you type for up na utter nonsen5e. you hold friendly drills with who? what do you think a drill is? just a drill. even China hold drills with the USA that does not mean a friendly relation exists in any way or at any level. The counter terror effort is an International effort even Russia and the US could hold drills on that, have you ever held drills on conventional warfare with this people you call your friends? what is the definition of friendly relationship? what parameters do you use to measure friendship between sovereign entities in an Anarchic society such as the international system. they gave you a 1000 dollar IDP relief fund and they became your friend. they held ct drills with you probably to tap from the experience you already have due to the successes you have made in that area and they are your friends. have the US ever held real battle simulations with Nigeria? why? because you only do that with your real friends and allies. it's the 2012 and you still think the doctrine and threat assessments that we are making as a nation reflects the realities of the present international system or that of a regional power? you have been talking about international politics and it's good that you have a sound knowledge of international politics for this next part of my comment.

Nations in the International System are driven by one thing alone and that thing is Interest. during the Nigerian Civil War Britain our "Friend" refused to supply Nigeria with weapons needed to execute the war. why? because London never wanted to be on the wrong side of history just in case the Secetionists succeeds, they knew about the oil wells inside enemy territory in Biafra and wanted to continue to have access to it by making shady deals with the rebels which includes not supplying weapons to Nigeria. France did the same, America stayed neutral and kept enjoying her access to oil from Nigerian rebels. if not for the fact that Russia came to our rescue enough and we started pushing back the Biafrans Britain would no sooner have armed those guys(so they can secure their oil interest) against us and call it an effort in the fight for freedom and human right. and peeps like you will still come out and say Britain is my friend. Oga there is a reason why students of Intl Politics and Diplomacy are schooled on History for all their years in school that's because History have a way of repeating itself. Nations learn from their history but we don't. we just accept anything. and that's why we keep failing. I am feeling sleepy already Sir. have a nice night rest.

kikuyu1:
Dude,there's very very real things in this world about which YOU HAVE NO IDEA. Frankly you're knowledge on this issue is too limited to even venture an opinion.

not fair Dude. I know some things about Aliens and ancient Technology. If you can't believe my own story how will I believe yours? That's the problem with the whole thing. I told you I am aware of a secret space ship inside a pyramid at the bottom of the Ocean and you dismissed it as false. Not fair oh. You just want everybody to believe your own alone.

Kassidy4luv:
Interested too.

your email or number please

kikuyu1:
The Tesla shield is neither a tectonic nor terraforming weapon. Its in operational use. The Russians had it by the early 80s. Basically an EM forcefield straight out of Star Trek.

https://www.cuttingedge.org/Passenger_Airplane_Dome.jpg

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n2155.cfm

Individual soldiers,ships and planes all platforms can have a Tesla shield. This means conventional kinetic kills by means of projectiles are obsolete. Btw,nemesis2u what do you know about the ancient vimanas as told in the 7000 year old Ramayana epic? They were as real as todays Tejas. Apparently some were for individual local and continental flying and others were for near and deep space journeys. Do you know about their mercury engines?

are you talking about the Mercury Engines used by the Ancient Urudimanti emperor in the Ancient Urudi Epics? Legend have it that it was laid inside the Gazolima Pyramid which is deep somewhere in the atlantic ocean not too far from the Coast of Kurumbaya which is a dark ancient word for Illusions.

nemesis2u:
say what if the ghosts come hunting for u

ever heard about the word "RUN"?

ITCareer:
Hello Gadget Lovers,

Is anyone interested in purchasing a Raytheon PALM IR 250 Thermal Camera? Can be used for hunting, ghost investigation or surveillance. Only N550k. Purchased in the U.S military liquidation auction

why will i now want to go and be hunting Ghost? nice Gadget though. do you have wireless xbox pc pads for sale?

coolestchris2:
How you see am..besides where are they convening

it would be hard not to despise you. nothing is getting better in this country and a protest would not scratch Buhari but it may be enough to remind him that he is leading Humans and not cows.

Henry240:
Frumentius, I was right all along. The ECOWAS intervention in Gambia was illegal.

For days, I asked you and the other proponents who supported the invasion of Gambia to provide the legal proof which backs such an intervention, of course you guys could not and some others resorted to name calling.


Here is the evidence which supports my opinion.


ECOWAS used Article 58 of its revised treaty relating to regional security to justify the intervention, according to Nigerian legal expert Barrister Hassan Liman. Liman said the law stipulates that member states must work to safeguard and consolidate relations to maintain peace, stability and security within the region.

He added that the article does not give ECOWAS the right to use force to oust a leader.

http://www.voanews.com/a/can-ecowas-tactics-in-gambia-serve-as-model/3698488.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=twitter

hmmm. LAW is very tricky. The troops that went into Gambia initially did not go in there to oust Jammeh, that would have been illegal, they went there to prevent the break down of law and order that may arise from the new president been sworn in the consulate compound of Gambia in Senegal, once Barrow was sworn in he legitimized the deployment of ECOMIG troops into Gambia by making a formal request for military assistant from ECOWAS as the new Head of State. That alone had made the second phase of the Gambian intervention a legitimate one. It is very legitimate for leaders of the ECOWAS commission to jointly deploy troops in a member country for human rights concerns. So the initial deployment was for human right concern not to remove Jammeh it was after Barrow was sworn in that the interventionists forces got the teeth they needed to bite just incase Jammeh refuses to leave. That's what the ECOWAS guys may say in their defence. Or they will just say "we got angry".

MikeCZA:
Not necessarily.



Can't be applied anywhere.

it can't? If the operations that brought down the Administration of Khadafi had been a joint diplomatic and military intervention by leaders of the region do you think Khadafi wouldnt have negotiated for a deal instead of having himself slaughtered on the streets of a county which he single he helped built,like a goat. A regional effort on the Libyan situation would have included plans for a successful and peaceful democratic change of Government like we supported in Gambia. But no, it was an ECOWAS operation so we have nothing to learn from it, even if a 22 year long Dictatorship was taken down without one shot fired. If simple Military exercises can find their way into textbooks on strategic studies as key examples on particular reference areas why do you think this "very successful" ECOWAS led operation cannot be applied. I can lost a thousand and one already messed up scenarios where this could have been applied. Even the OAU cannot carry out a Diplomatic and military operation simultaneously with this kind of success.