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valirex:Why will I answer your irrational questions? You are using empires as a case study on egalitarian societies and you expect an answer? ![]() If you don't know by now that you have been disgracing yourself since page one,then I will agree you're a free clown. Meanwhile, I know you feel jittery to know that you know little or nothing about the people you're arguing for, so I'll drop something below to cool your Igbophobic nerves down
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valirex:But you said what we call country is what they call tribe? Who are the "they" if not the Mahgrebs? |
valirex:What we call country is what they call tribe? ![]() Abeg let me laugh small, is Libya also a tribe? ![]() |
valirex:Stop using countries for these your baseless argument and use a Nigerian ethnic group as a case study, moreover Algeria is made up of various ethnicities including Berbers who speak their language alongside Arabic and French. As I said, your points hold no water! |
valirex:If you don't know the meaning, then you shouldn't be arguing, because that means you know nothing about the people you're arguing for! You're the one that lost it by being ignorant of salient facts and bringing up stale points. Up till now, you haven't told me why it was only the Igboid people in upland Rivers that lost their language while Ogonis,Kalabaris,e.t.c retained theirs despite the strong trade relationship they had with the Igbos even before the coming of the whites! |
valirex:Why was it only Ikwerre that lost their language? Why is it that despite the fact that Ogoni has boundaries with core Igbo communities like Akwete in Abia State,they still speak pure Ogoni,while Igbo remains a subsidiary language? Moreover,Ikwerre historians never talked about having a language distinct to them before speaking Igbo,so what are you saying? |
valirex:Igbo language was a language of trade, agreed! What is Ikwerre and Ogba main language since Igbo was a language of trade? How come they don't speak their language and answer their native names? How come Kalabari,Ibani,and Ogoni people who adopted Igbo as a second language due to trade still speak their original language as a first language? My brother you have no point! |
valirex:You don't even know the meaning of Isomas .Bro you have lost this argument for this, I can't believe you don't know this! |
valirex:Can you also tell me why Ikwerres and Ekpeyes call hinterland Igbos "isomas", and why Ohaji people in Imo state call Oru people the same "isomas"? |
valirex:This is very stale , the British colonized us and imposed English on us, however Igbo communities were stateless societies that couldn't colonize anyone,so any person you here answering Uche must have been from an indigenous Igbo settlement! |
valirex:The man I mentioned is followed by almost every learned Ekpeye man so he is more influential than some group of funny men going to pay homage to Oba of Benin. You still haven't answered my questions as to why there are many villages like Rumuigbo,Obigbo,Ogbe-Igbo in Ali Ikwerre,Ali Ogba and Ali Ekpeye |
Onyema and Otunba jointly achieved a feat an Adamu couldn't! Let the North hand over power to the South in 2023 entirely from the president to the Senate president, and see if this country wouldn't change for the better. |
valirex:So when a group of people pay homage,the whole Ekpeye,Ogba and Ikwerre become Bini ?Nigerians don't know history, that's why people make funny insinuations like this. Do you know that the Igbide people of Isoko claim to have migrated from Akwa in Anambra state,does that make them Igbo and non-Isoko? Do you know that Opobo was founded by an Igbo man and many Igbo freed slaves who were Ijawnized,does that make them Igbo and non-Ijaws?? What do you have to say concerning the fact that the most respected Ekpeye historian of all time, U.J.Ajugo reinstated in many of his books that Ekpeye has nothing in common with Benin and that they are older than the Benin empire?? Can you give me reasons why there are many Ikwerre men heading different posts in Ohaneze Ndi Igbo? Can you tell me why Obi Wali, one of the most famous Ikwere men of all time pushed for his people to be included with Igbos? Can you tell me why there is a place called Rumuigbo in Ali Ikwerre, "Rumu" means children in Ikwerre(Igbos call it umu). So it means the inhabitants are Igbo children! Can you tell me why according to Isiokpo's oral history, they migrated from Arochukwu in Abia State? There are millions of things that shows that these guys have nothing to do with Benin,the war and Nigeria's politics divided many ethnic groups and put them against one another, Igbos were badly hit than the rest, that's why you'll see indigenous Igbo settlements in Delta(Anioma),Rivers State(Upland),Akwa Ibom(Ndoki in Ukanafun LGA),Cross River(Igbos in Obubra and Abi LGA) and Benue(Obi,Oji). Fact is if the 42 states as proposed is created,the Igboid tribes should be United under one geo-political zone just as the Yoruboid and Edoid should be,enough of this identity crisis! |
valirex:Ekpeye doesn't claim to be Bini, Ekpeyes are older than Binis. Go and read U.J Ajugo book for more clarification,he is the biggest Ekpeye historian. Ikwerre on the other hand only have few people claiming Benin. Ever wondered why Chibuike Amaechi and Nyesom Wike despite being kinsmen from thesame local government had different disposition towards their ethnicity, one claimed he is Igbo and one said his ancestors migrated from Benin, this is exactly how Ali Ikwerre is as at now, I've met thousands of Ikwerre in Rivers State that claimed to be Igbo and I have met thousands who claim that their ancestors migrated from Benin. Nevertheless, whether Bini or Igbo,Ikwerre is not an Edoid language,it is Igboid just like Ekpeye,Ogba, Ndoni,e.t.c. |
Bigjoe68:Bro the list is not yeye,the guy tried,however there should be some adjustments like balkanizing Okun people into Ekiti State,Ndoki people in Rivers State(Oyigbo/Obigbo) into Abia State,Abi/Obubra people in Cross River into Ebonyi State,Igala people in North Eastern Anambra into Kogi State,Akoko people in Edo into Ondo State,Ndoki people in Akwa Ibom State(Ukanafun) into Abia State,Andoni people in Rivers State into Akwa Ibom State,e.t.c. |
valirex:Assuming you said there are other ethnic groups in Rivers State like Kalabari,Ijaw,Ogoni,e.t.c,it would make more sense because these ethnicities are very distinct from Igbo,they only share boundaries with Igbo communities but have nothing in common with Igbos. However, the Ekpeye you mentioned will be drafted into the proposed Orashi state because Ekpeye is an Igboid nationality,some historians even classify them as an Igbo sub-group. Visit Wikipedia if you doubt me! Though Ikwerre was not included in the proposed Orashi State,I will suggest they be included because they are also an Igboid nationality,an average Igbo man from Imo and Abia State have a lot in common with an Ikwerre man,so I don't see why they should be seen as a distinct ethnic group! |
EbenezerTriumph:(1)From his surname, it can be inferred that he is an Ohafia man from Abia state (2)Anioma,Etche,e.t.c are all Igbo Sub-groups, if you doubt me,consult Wikipedia or read Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala books. (3)You're Etim from Akwa Ibom state,be proud of your identity!! |
EbenezerTriumph:I know it's painful that your ethnic group of 500k people and three local governments area are under represented both home and abroad ![]() |
Igbo Amaka!! |
I knew it must be a cone head |
Let them fight each other; After all they are thesame people! |
EbenezerTriumph:Do you even know where I'm from? All you know is to delimit Igbo geographic boundaries, the earlier you face your ethnic group of 5 local governments, the better for your predicaments! |
EbenezerTriumph:You've come again with your foolishness, why mention me ![]() You'll continue masturbating on any Igbo post till you die a miserable death! |
Wonderful ![]() |
Okoro vs Okoro . Wetin concern Andoni man ? |
Johnrio22:Igbos known for Cultism or thuggery? It seems you're out of your mind;Even a grown up baby knows the home of Cultism and thuggery in Nigeria and no amount of noise from you on NL will change it |
Owajigarrisson: |
The day Akwa Ibomites and Ebonyians will know that the real development of a state is based on the standard and cost of living of the people,I pray it won't be too late for them. You can't continue showing us pictures of good roads, stadiums and airlines when your people are scattered over Nigeria doing menial jobs ranging from housemaids to gatemen to hawking gala. Some states in Nigeria Akwa Ibomites think they are better than are no match for them because their citizens are well exposed, a good example is Ekiti State! |
Funny thing is I didn't see any Igbo name in that list,just a Calabar and Ogoni man and everyone is shouting Igbo! |
Children of jealousy from Akwa Ibom will not like this news ![]() |
Until the Northerners whom attacked Yorubas in Yoruba land are apprehended,these guys should not be touched afterall the Northerners started it! |
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