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profmallor:
This world is a sad place, when you sit and think of the level of scandal and fraud that must have occurred between Boeing and the FAA just to get Boeing to beat Airbus into flying a more fuel efficient plane. The CEO of Boeing must go to prison for this, cause they toyed with peoples lives knowing the ad changes the entire designs of those planes but lied to airlines/pilots that nothing had changed - just to make profits. Anyone could have been on those planes, because they were actually brand new planes(coffin). One lesson I take from this is, dont be so eager to try anything new(be it a car, phone, airplane) if you have a choice, White men lie just as we blacks do. Cause in those their evil board rooms profit is all they care about. Secondly, question every one, question your doctors, your teachers you have a right to know what ever they do that might affect you. Of course Boeing would pay for the damages, but is that ever really a monetary replacement to a dead loved one?. and I wont be surprised that these 737 max planes would find their ways back quietly into the air spaces

My brother, no be small thing o
I’m especially saddened by the death of Prof. Akinsanmi
His focus was calling to attention the corruption in Africa
And to be killed by the corruption in America
This life, enh?

joey150:
I haven't read any official report stating that the pilots actually switched off the MCAS. ( not just turn it off but actually deactivate it).


I would very much appreciate a link to any of such or similar report.

However, if they did, then chances are they did it when the plane was already plunging down to the ground.

Just one minute into Flight 302 from Addis Ababa to Nairobi in neighboring Kenya, the captain, Yared Getachew, reported that they were having flight-control problems.

Then the anti-stall system kicked in and pushed the nose of the plane down for nine seconds. Instead of climbing, the plane descended slightly. Audible warnings — “Don’t Sink” — sounded in the cockpit. The pilots fought to turn the nose of the plane up, and briefly they were able to resume climbing.

But the automatic anti-stall system pushed the nose down again, triggering more squawks of “Don’t Sink” from the plane’s ground-proximity warning system.

Following a procedure that Boeing reiterated after the Lion Air crash, the Ethiopian pilots flipped two switches and disconnected the anti-stall system, then tried to regain control. They asked to return to the Addis Ababa airport, but were continuing to struggle getting the plane to gain altitude.

https://apnews.com/1108708781ba46808a16843bda8cc079

joey150:
This crash would have been avoided if the pilot simply deactivated the MCAS and flew the plane manually.

Other pilots had reported similar problem with the 737 and all they did was turn off the MCAS and flew the plane manually till it leveled again.

Why both the Ethiopian and Lion Air Crew didn't think to switch off the MCAS is still mysterious. The simple answer is that they didn't even know it existed to know to turn it off when the plane was nose-diving.

Boeing included a new safety feature in their 737 jets and somehow decided to not completely disclose it.

Read the story or the update from Ethiopian airways
They deactivated
It still didn’t work
The pilot did everything and the plane still crashed!

RIP Prof Akinsanmi and others
Imagine, the level of greed in Boeing that lead to this
And they even failed to ground their planes after the Lion air crash in Indonesia
If they had done the necessary thing
Those who died in Ethiopia would have been alive
Wicked company!

Boeing Is Taking Responsibility In The 737 Jet Crashes That Killed 346 People


https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2019-04/4/16/asset/buzzfeed-prod-web-02/sub-buzz-29102-1554408563-1.jpg


Boeing's CEO admitted on Thursday that a failure of its software was one of the causes in the recent deadly 737 Max jet crashes.

Dennis Muilenburg said a new software update would prevent future incidents.

"It's our responsibility to eliminate this risk," Muilenburg said in a video message on Thursday. "We own it, and we know how to do it."

Muilenburg's acknowledgement of Boeing's responsibility came after the release earlier Thursday of a preliminary report on the March 10 crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, which killed all 157 people on board. In the report, Ethiopian investigators said the jet's pilots followed all safety procedures before the crash.


Though the pilots followed procedures, the report said false sensor readings activated the jet's automatic system against stalling, known as the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, or MCAS. The jet nose-dived minutes after takeoff, similarly to when Lion Air Flight 610, another 737 Max, crashed last October and killed all 189 people on board.

The crashes prompted airlines and international regulators to ground their 737 Max jets, and pilots accused Boeing of failing to train them on the MCAS system.

On Thursday, Muilenburg said a software update would be ready to implement within weeks.

"This update, along with the associated training and additional educational materials that pilots want in the wake of these accidents, will eliminate the possibility of unintended MCAS activation and prevent an MCAS-related accident from ever happening again," he said.


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He said Boeing remained confident in the safety of its jet.

"When the Max returns to the skies with the software changes to the MCAS function, it will be among the safest airplanes ever to fly," he said.

A report on the cause of the Lion Air crash has not yet been released, and Muilenburg stressed that any air crash was the result of a chain of events. He added that he hoped Boeing would again earn the trust of air travelers.

"We at Boeing are sorry for the lives lost in the recent 737 Max accidents. These tragedies continue to weigh heavily on our hearts and minds, and we extend our sympathies to the loved ones of the passengers and crew on board Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302," he said. "All of us feel the immense gravity of these events across our company and recognize the devastation of the families and friends of the loved ones who perished."


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/claudiakoerner/boeing-is-taking-responsibility-in-the-737-jet-crashes-that

Hahaha
Churchill will have the last laugh

The son will grow up and demand to be in his father’s life
Blood is thicker than water

I don’t know why woman who weaponise their children against the father don’t get this?

babdap:
Medicine after death

Imagine the wickedness of these people,
They are not contented with using a gimmick and software make their poorly designed plane to fly?
They are also charging extra for what will prevent a crash!
It’s like you buying a car and paying extra for brakes to be installed
What a wicked and greedy bunch of people!

Boeing 737 Max 8 planes that crashed in Ethiopia and Indonesia lacked two optional pilot safety features that the company charges EXTRA for

The two Boeing 737 Max 8 jets that crashed in Ethiopia and Indonesia lacked two safety features in their cockpits that the aircraft manufacturer charges extra for but could have helped pilot detect erroneous readings.

The optional safety features - an angle of attack indicator and a disagree light - are not mandated by the Federal Aviation Administration and are currently only installed if the airline pays for the add-ons.

Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302 were not equipped with the safety features, officials told the New York Times.

As investigators look into the cause of the crashes, attention has turned to a new software in the jets that takes readings from devices called angle of attack sensors. The software can essentially push a plane's nose down in some circumstances, for example when the sensors suggest the plane may be stalling.


The angle of attack indicator shows how much the aircraft's nose it tilted up or down. The disagree light activates if the two sensors in the plane's software do not agree.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/03/21/16/11280896-6835471-The_two_Boeing_737_Max_8_jets_that_crashed_in_Ethiopia_and_Indon-a-1_1553187468518.jpg



Boeing will now make the disagree light free of charge as part of a forthcoming software update to the 737 MAX fleet in the wake of the two fatal crashes, officials briefed on the matter said on Thursday.

The manufacturer will also retrofit older planes with the light that did not initially receive it.

The angle of attack indicator will remain a feature that airlines can add on, officials said.

Boeing has not commented about the safety features.

The entire 737 MAX fleet has been grounded following the deadly crashes in Ethiopia and Indonesia that occurred just five months apart.

Faulty angle of attack sensors were blamed, in part, for the Indonesia disaster last October that killed 189 people. The sensors have also been at the center of initial investigations into this month's Ethiopia crash in which 157 died.

While the two features missing from those two planes are not required by regulators, experts said they were key to safety.

'They're critical, and cost almost nothing for the airlines to install,' Bjorn Fehrm, an analyst at the aviation consultancy Leeham, told the New York Times.

'Boeing charges for them because it can. But they're vital for safety.'

The feature is sold at an extra cost, which means some budget airlines like Lion Air have chosen not to fit them.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6835471/Boeing-says-optional-warning-light-fitted-standard.html




Imagine the greed
Those who lost their loved ones should be ready to sue the pants off Boeing!
RIP to Prof Pius, imagine preaching about the corruption in Africa and being killed by the corruption in America?
What a crazy world!

Only in Nigeria
Zero copyright law
Try this shit in a saner clime?
You will pay with pain!

AAC
Na Pride go kill these people!

With una 33000 votes in the last presidential election, una still dey get mouth?
Mtsheeew

meobizy:
Lol.
Them plenty like that for Nairaland.
Only one person will create a thread and have a discussion with himself for thirty pages and counting.
It is an unexplaianable something.

This your comment make me lwtmb
Na beginning of craze be that naa

My favorite candidate
But my problem with him is his inability accept whenever he is wrong and apologize
We need a leader who is first a servant
The truth is that we have none

Pray she is found!
let them trace her phone and all those business partners

The economy has turned Nigerian youths to comedians apapandodo!

That must be New York!
Plenty of crazy people there!

bilulu:
Please do me a favor... call your mother or aunty in the village or stop that wheelbarrow pusher on the street and ask them who are those people you mentioned up there, from his response you will appraise the level of their popularity. Bros am not happy it has to be between PDP and APC, it's just the way our political system is for now. A vote for those guys is indirectly a vote for Buhari. Mind you some of those guys were placed there as distracted, you might not understand but that's the fact

My sister, Buhari and Atiku are the same!
They are both carved from the same stock!
Have you forgotten how PDP wasted 16years of our democracy?
And you are still canvassing for them to come back?
Why not vote for Sowore
At least your conscience will be clear
If all the youths can vote for a youth, these old cargoes are in trouble

Raalsalghul:
I feel ya bro and I agree with you, but the percentage of us with this mindset is like 5 per cent. Nigeria won't get better so my advice for you is to start planning your exit. It's as simple as that.

I left in 2016
I wake up every morning thanking God for giving me an escape route.
I just pity all of you guys
Especially those who are yet to get sense!

As the Election Day gets closer, one thing that is as clear as the day, is this fact!
Nigerians must get it right, now.
Any one that is still sentimental believing APC or PDP will clear the same mess they collectively put us in,
Are clearly out of touch with reality!
For your information
APC is PDP
And PDP is APC!
The future are the teeming youths!
If Sowore , Durotoye or Morghalu wins?
You are sure of 100% representation of the youths in government
All the ancient ancestors Buhari brought out of mothballs into government will be sent back home to await their rendezvous with the grim reaper.
All the youths stampeding and fainting for BB Naija will be busy and gainfully employed.
The hunger pushing people into rituals, crimes and death will be drastically reduced.

Please, I will have you know
You only reap what you sow

All the we will be alright las las is a fantasy
Many that said that last year are already dead awaiting their burial
It will only get better las las when you vote someone that will create the country that can guarantee that.
APC and PDP are creating a large scale cemetery and they are calling it nation building

A word is enough for the wise!

As the Election Day gets closer, one thing that is as clear as the day, is this fact!
Nigerians must get it right, now.
Any one that is still sentimental believing APC or PDP will clear the same mess they collectively put us in,
Are clearly out of touch with reality!
For your information
APC is PDP
And PDP is APC!
The future are the teeming youths!
If Sowore , Durotoye or Morghalu wins?
You are sure of 100% representation of the youths in government
All the ancient ancestors Buhari brought out of mothballs into government will be sent back home to await their rendezvous with the grim reaper.
All the youths stampeding and fainting for BB Naija will be busy and gainfully employed.
The hunger pushing people into rituals, crimes and death will be drastically reduced.

Please, I will have you know
You only reap what you sow

All the we will be alright las las is a fantasy
Many that said that last year are already dead awaiting their burial
It will only get better las las when you vote someone that will create the country that can guarantee that.
APC and PDP are creating a large scale cemetery and they are calling it nation building

A word is enough for the wise!

Illusion on a grand scale
Nigerian youths
I heard the form is 2k
You paid 2k for what they have already selected those they want?
Stop paying for your chains!

Her mates are striping naked, fainting and stampeding at Big Brother auditions
If Nigerian youths don’t wise up now!
That their leaders have finished them
The next 20 years will be more than horrible
In fact Somalia will be like London compared to us!

Wayray!
I'm sure he's either a Buhari or Atiku supporter!
Vote for a youth like them they will not,
Una never see anything!

My brother, forget megapixels
Everything is now AI (Artificial Intelligence)
You want to see best picture?
Go and buy, Google Pixel 3!
You will thank me later!

You go soon die
Lazy youth
Wicked politicians
Vote Sowore, so that you will be gainfully employed and have no time for this show of shame

If una like, continue to vote for all these wicked politicians
That has turned the youths to these
Imagine the level of poverty of the mind
That will make children from good homes go and queue to be part of a show where they will be molested on TV?
Nigeria jaga jaga
Welcome to mad land!

Dolphins are very intelligent and beautiful creatures!
Infact there are countless stories of dolphins, coming to the rescue of humans drowning in the sea.
Its pure savagery, what these people are doing!

My apologies to the Dolphin and its family

Broken down like the country it's fighting for!

The armoured fighting vehicle actually represent the state of affairs in the country!
It's sad
Just sad!

It’s necessary if you live in the western world

I have one installed
It settles all collision arguments

The other day was driving and a deer jumped in my front.
The video was a classic

And many of you are still planing to vote for either PDP or APC
Una never see anything
By the time they finish with you all
The whole nation will be one huge Hunger Games Arena

Yeah
Indeed, he has been disowned finally
Omo ale

We are in the END GAME now!
What a lawless country
Imagine, soldiers raiding offices
Awon wayray

Proud to be an Akokite!
1994 - 1998