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morpheus24:
Please real facts.

About 50 million Nigerian internet users versus 100,000 black SA internet users.

Shows you are a youngster and not quite as clued up as you may want to believe. I leave you to joke around. Got more serious things to do and discuss.

Thank you.

Fulaman198:
This is a huge forum and south Africans are not on the top of the list of discussed issues. We discuss just about every group of Africans in addition to our own internal problems. Most Nigerians don't even think of South Africa or know where it's located on the map. That's how irrelevant South Africa is to the average Nigerian. Maybe if those fools killing other Africans would not kill other Africans then south Africa wouldn't be discussed.

It really shows how deep in darkness your people are. You can not discuss Africa on anything and SA not be cited somewhere in your discussion. By the way where were they in 2010 when the eyes of the whole world were on SA - that is if your people can not point SA on the world map? Jeez, bunch of goat herders and cave dwellers for real!

all4naija:
Good! Now we can discuss as human beings. I don't actually know what is wrong with organizing things in Nigeria. The people tend to overlook it and it is having untold effect on the society.

Can you imagine that? A nation with huge oil resources often times having to grapple with gasoline. That just proved the kind of people in the role of leadership in that nation. The most annoying thing about it is that people aren't interested to fight and die for something that mean a lot them but would do that for political parties and side with those who will continue to loot the country. I feel like hating on that country with everything in my being. Do you know what I mean?

Nigerians are just too comfortable with stupidity.

I feel you bro....sometimes when things like this happen you really feel ashamed to identify yourself with that nation. For example, when I see a human being being set on fire purely because they are Mozambican, it wants to make you deny you are a SAn! Pure shame! I know the events we referring to differ but they all point to backwardness in this beautiful continent.

Leaves one with nothing to be proud of. Seems there is no end in sight to Africa's underdevelopment and barbarism. What a pity!

Fulaman198:
And yet in many Western nations, Nigerians are touted as the most educated people. I don't know why other Africans waste their time in South Africa, it's a whole different cultural experience and it's super far away. Nigerians, Somalis, Angolans, etc etc should just leave and go and do their own thing

.....may be, just may be you are right. Let the ones doing meaningful stuff remain - but others yes can go back. People can continue cutting people's hair even in Lagos - and it may even be more profitable doing that in your hometown.

guardian09:
Calm down bro lets argue this objectively,lets leave emotions aside. Forget if they are Nigerians or Martians,cause every country got their own demons. I want to believe that there are laws in SA? why not use that and deal with the foreign criminals as you say or have the Foreigners taken over your Judiciary as well?

Good point you are raising.

See the criminal minded foreigners have taken advantage of the SAn crime situation. It is a well known fact all over that crime is a big problem in SA. People fly for many kilometers to kill their wives here using SAns to assist them. Our laws are too lenient when it comes to dealing with hardcore criminals. As SAn - we have been complaining all along that hey the constitution seems to be more protective of the perpetrators of crime than the victims. SAns have raised this issue many times with the government. But, sadly so nothing drastic has happened to tighten the laws. So criminals (both foreign and local) are fully aware of this and are taking advantage of the loopholes. That is why we are in this dilemma.

So, the citizenry got tired and something had to give. I do not condone the attacks / killings though.

all4naija:
Xenophobia is in your blood.The most developed African nation indeed!Overrated Townships.

1. I am not xenophobic. It's a sad episode in our recent history. But all is fine now. I condemn all the attacks / killings (I am Zulu by the way).

2. The most developed African nation - true that - you said so yourself.

3. Overrated townships - townships are just that - townships - we love them and the energy they possess. They are loud and vibrant - we like them just like that.

I am saddened by this fuel shortage thing - for an oil producing country that is on the OPEC list, it can't be right.

guardian09:
Well lets look at that last paragraph again, from what I can decipher you seem to agree that SA is moving forward right? Now the recent attacks on foreigners in SA was based on allegations that foreigners have taken all the jobs in SA, so tell me please how is driving this same people that have contributed in moving your beloved country forward is the right thing to do? one would think the best thing to do is learn as much as possible from the foreigners or better still export your skills/expertise to another country after all no man is an Island or what do you think?

What jobs are they taking - cutting peoples hair, running brothels, selling sweets and cigarettes by the roadside? That is not important. We do not care about this.

Here is the problem: your people came here and created no go areas for SAns in their own land with their bully behavior and criminal dealings. Hillbrow Jhb, Sunnyside Pta, Point Road Dbn and other places have been completely taken over by ruthless foreign criminals to such a point that these areas you have to avoid them completely.....better still if it were SAns carrying on like that - now its foreigners? Would you accept that in your own country, huh? Most of your people are behaving badly and SAns have had it with this! Not anymore.

I remember the other day in Dec 2013 early on a Sunday morning in the Joburg Station area - a group of Nigerians fighting amongst themselves, going up and down the street - it was ugly...it was scary. If people can come all the way from so far off and begin to do that among themselves - what about you as a SAn?

Most of your people here behave badly and we have had it about that. Instead of you guys accepting this and talking to them to tone down whatever you choose to lambaste us - just talk to your people down here to tone it down and just behave, please.

all4naija:
This is the most shameful thing about that country with huge oil reserve. Jeez! What is going on?!

Go Nigeria.....GIANT of Africa!

Thank you.

ribbit:
deceived by who? Have you been to South Africa before? I have been to South Africa and I know what I'm talking about.
I was even deceived into going into that country by people like you and what I saw in TV.

The poverty in that country can make church rat to be thankful of the little he has.

It's you that shouldn't be deceived.. Don't judge South Africa based on infrastructure present in Johannesburg.. Most black South Africans are extremely poor.. The poverty is on the same level as Nigeria if not worse. And I think It is due to the fact that they do not embrace education and they are super lazy. That's why they blame everyone else for their problems. The ones that are not lazy do menial jobs, kiss up to white butt to make a decent living or go into outright crime... All the men do is wake up, brush teeth with Alcohol and find next pussy to rape. That's why South Africa is the hiv and rape capital of the world... Including crimes too.

You could say we have more poor people in Nigeria than South Africa, and that is because the we bigger population.. But the poverty Ievel is absolutely the same with poor people not having decent place to live or access to basic things like water and power or decent toilet.

White South African is different from black South African the same way North is different from South in Nigeria. White South Africans are prosperous because they embraced education.. Same way, Southern Nigeria embraced education. Most poor people in Nigeria are from Northern part while most poor people in South Africa are blacks..

Wow....you said all this just so you can feel good about yourself - bro you are clutching at straws. Nigeria and SA = not comparable. Never. Not at this present moment at least.

For starters - where were you in 2010? Remember the soccer world cup? SA proved back then beyond every reasonable doubt that we are way above any country on this continent.

I am sure you expected everybody to be driving a merc when you came here? News flash - there will be a percentage of the population that will be struggling to make ends meet, that is a well known fact. We can not all be on the same pedestal. For a country that was ravaged by racial segregation and oppression for years, I believe SA is a miracle of Africa....the apartheid system created homelands in the harshest areas of our country and black people were dumped there and left to die - but guess what, people survived those harsh conditions and they are improving their lives step by step. Take a drive even in the far flung villages - electricity is there all the time, you will find clinics, schools, water supplies (communal or piped), public area lighting, tarred / paved main roads, modern shopping complexes (even in rural areas) etc.........oh and again the government has been / is building houses for the people since 1994, and you must not lie here....also the government is building ablution facilities for the people free of charge.....yes there will be cases where things do go wrong....but that is here and there.....so what's your story?

If blacks do not embrace education - answer me this, who is it that is filling up our institutions of higher learning every year? Hmmmmm? Are you aware that currently SA is building two brand new world class universities so as to increase the numbers of graduates? Again - who is filling up all this universities if not the black people? Answer me.

Is it not obvious to you that because the blacks are a huge majority as compared to the whites - that naturally so the scales of comparison will always be unbalanced? There will be more poorer blacks than whites...its expected, blacks are the huge majority, there will be more black criminals compared to whites, again blacks are in the majority.......there will be many black people funerals than the whites, same reason blacks are a huge majority over the whites......didnt you see that logic?? Huh?

Finally think about this one - because you can surf the net, I am sure you are aware SA is not an oil producing country.....however you will not find us standing in long queues with 25 liter petrol containers in dry filling stations waiting for petrol? Not at all.....but you guys you produce many barrels of oil a day yet right now you may be in a long queue with your 25 liter container waiting to fill up to run your gen this evening - that in 2015 - huh? Yet you come here and lambaste SA blacks (laziness, crime, rape, hiv blah blah blah) whilst you having even more pressing matters right under your nose to attend to. I am not in a queue and I produce no oil...and you produce oil and are in a long queue....who is lazy now?

vislabraye:
Without Nigerians, you guys in SA will be nothing. Especially you black South Africans who cannot produce anything.
If you doubt me, mention one notable South African alive who has done great exploit and I'll mention 3 Nigerians.

It's the white in your country that has made your country worth living. Without them, you guys would have been plunged into the stone age.
So give us respect. For instance, this us Naira Land, owned by a Nigerian. Tell us ine major South African website like this..

On the bolded, I will tell you again stop smoking whatever it is that you are smoking - you are loosing your sanity!

What great exploits you Nigerians have done? Huh, tell me? With all that oil money the country makes in just one day - yet - you still stand in the que for 7 hours with a 25litre petrol container and still get nothing.....that for an oil producing country on OPEC....you must be ashmed of your self.

What great exploits you Nigerians have done? Huh, what new invention to help humanity? Nothing. You can not tell me about Innoson motors blah blah blah....there is nothing Nigerian about an internal combustion engine and SUVs....nothing....that was just re-modelling and rebranding of already existing methods, technologies etc........so really shut it.

In fact, you have done us all a great deal of disservice as the black people of Africa....when did your country start being in black hands? If there was anything peculiar about you guys - then Nigeria was supposed to be the shining diamond of Africa.....so you are a loud mouth for nothing.

At least in our case.....after 20years of blackman rule - there are indications that although things are heavy but the country is moving forward - though not at the pace we would like it to - but still we are moving forward. Infrastructure being expanded everywhere....it's just good to be a part of the positive things that happen here.

So shut it!!!

ekiloui:
Apart from capetown, KZN, pta and joburg, what other cities have better infrastructure? Just google soweto for example. These people feed 4rm hand to mouth, don't have access to education, menial jobs, poor living conditions etc. Only the big cities are highly developed. The truth remains that the white population in S.A have the good standard of living, same as the elite blacks..and there aren't many elite blacks as compared with the whites of people who can boast of good standard of living in Nigeria.

Btw they have downtowns in the big cities..I'm sure you know who lives there

This your hogwash of a post can not go unchallenged. Let me educate you:

1. KZN is a province (state) and not a city.

2. Apart from CT, Pta, Jhb what other cities have better (actually it's very GOOD infrastructure) - let me enlighten you (remember 2010 soccer world cup - where were you? In your cave?) Port Elizabeth, East London, Queenstown, Bloemfontein, Kimberly, Pietermaritzburg, Durban, Vryheid, Polokwane, Modimolle, Lephalale, Rustenburg, Mafikeng, Emalahleni, Middelburg, Nelspruit, the list is soooooo sooo long....all these have perfect sound infrastructure.

3. Just google soweto for example? You know nothing about Soweto. Soweto has got the richest to the poorest....nicest surbubs to the most eyesore of shacks......Soweto is home to more than three world class shopping malls, world class soccer stadia, top class educationational and recreational facilities, Soweto has got it all .....you don't know what you are talking about talking about Soweto like that.

4. The middle class in SA is evident everywhere you go.....I mean eevrywhere....just look what cars are on our roads? Damn, you will die young all because of your jealousy.......

eaglechild:
Do not be deceived.

The average black South African at the same social status still has a better standard of living.

I agree they may not be as ambitious as Nigerians but even Nigeria is diverse and not all regions are touted as hard working.
The poor South African is better than the poor Nigerian.

Besides why throw away the whites are they not South Africans?

Thank you.......

ellechrystal:
My friend keep ur dirty trap shut.
All d social amenities indeed,
Youths without brains, Ve poop embedded in their dirty skull.
Silly comment u ve there.

Just go que up for your refill in that dry filling station. You know your gen won't run this evening.

Fernandowski:
We are gonna do to her what our brothers and sisters are done at south africa

AND WHAT ABOUT THE NIGERIAN MASTERMINDS BEHIND THIS WHOLE THING?

tellwisdom:
Feed who, mugu??

If you get confused this easily - then you should not be posting, right?

What is mugu.....so I can give you its equivalent in isiZulu?

Coldfeet:
I don't get you.

Go back read your earlier post about whites blah blah blah....

Rotimi47:
They know Nada as 99.99% of south Africa's population have never ventured out of their country & they a very lazy & lack professional skills need to get most jobs.

What are you on about?

1. Why must we leave our country and go elsewhere? SA is just so so great....why would I want to leave my motherland? Everything needed in life is available here.....so I see no need why SAns should go elsewhere....to do what?

2. Very lazy.....I see a lot of you are into that chorus....now I put you on the spot, explain this laziness you are talking about in the SA context....let's hear.

3. Lack professional skills?? Rubbish. Every year we have new enrollments in our institutions of higher learning, year in year out there are intakes and graduates.....then what are you talking about?

remirez07:
I can only blame our leaders for this Asses!!!!! Who is SA We make them who they are. Without Nija what would Mtn, multchoice be? SA!! Nija is you god-nation.

Stop smoking whatever it is that you smoke.....you are loosing your sanity!!!

Thank you. (Pitiable individual though)

medar:
Nothing could have justified the killings of foreigners in SA. But we should stop blaming some of these countries too bcuz the truth remains that our people in some of these countries like S.A, Indonesia, Malaysia etc are frustrating the authorities of those countries. Our people are some of the worst drug cartels in these countries. Sometimes when these countries give us freedom, we misuse such freedom. I've seen Nigerians behaving even less than animals in some parts of Europe. So you can't blame these people entirely. I'm strongly against the withdrawal of Nigerian envoy to that country. If not for anything, but for the way they handled the synagogue saga. Just saying.....

Brilliant post.....post of the day.....give this man / woman a Bells!!!!!!

tellwisdom:

This Mugabe monkey we even feeding him. Tons and tons of our corn crosses the border to feed his starving ZANU-PF supporters as well as our electricity....

He should just shut it....loud mouth for nothing.....else he will continue tripping and falling off plane's stairs....nonsense

Smooyis:
Are we the only set of nationals in south africa? We need to look forward and correct our wrongs. I think there are many bad nigerians there giving the generality of us bad names.

Thank you so very much....sensible post...."give this man a Bells"

The are a few good ones ....and a lot of pompous bad ones!

notime3555:
ABEG WHICH COUNTRY IS SOUTH AFRICA

The one with all the basic amenities...

You even dream of being here? Aint you queing up right now by that dry filling station on the side of the road....? Hope that's not you I see there....

You know what I'm talking about.

Coldfeet:

The love I have for Brenda fassie won't allow me react the way I want to.

Rip sweets.


They hate us so much that they killed Lucky Dube another of my favourite musician from that country thinking he was a Nigerian.


South Africa you are your own problem

No wonder Madiba asked you all to forgive the whites that tormented you all for years!!

He knew without them you all will be NOTHING in that country.

Thank goodness then they are here.......that's why your cousin as at the SA visa office there, crossing fingers that he gets here too!!!

XBLadez:
These South African cowards can only stay at home and bark on the internet. Come out here and face us like we face u in ur own country

Come out there to do what, really?

Am sure right now you must take your petrol container and go stand in that 3km long que at the dry filling station in the hope that you'll get petrol for your gen.....whats that in 2015?

morpheus24:
A country that are Xenphobic, have never spilt blood for their fellow Africans and its citizens take the law into their own hands in front of the World to see will never lead this great continent. Africa

Over Nigeria's dead body!


Tufiakwa!

Right now you guys are running out of fuel - you are one of the big crude oil producers in the world - yet you guys are going through a massive fuel shortage in your country.

I can't even begin to imagine what was gonna be the case if you were like SA with no crude oil at all?

By the way why do you have so many people in your filling stations each with containers making all these long ques?

https://www.nairaland.com/2287267/7-hours-experience-filling-station

all4naija:
You possibly don't know the meaning of envy which is different from jealousy or 'want to be like Nigeria' in a nutshell. Nigeria is seen as the African GIANT and that takes some attention away from SA. If you aren't seeing that it is time to take note of it now. Please, take your Township post somewhere else.

I don't think SA wants to be like Nigeria at all - no!!!!!

You are saying - your being seen as the GIANT of Africa takes away some attention from SA? I beg to differ.

Right now as I type this the Commonwealth Games inspection team is in Durban inspecting facilities in preparation to award the 2022 games to Durbs.......that alone is proof enough we have enough attention as it is.

Need I mention other notable events that will prove to you that SA has got nothing to worry about in terms of attention? You may want to tell me that investors are looking at Nigeria more than they do SA because of Nigeria's big population etc......got news for you, once we complete strengthening our power sector (which for the moment limits investments in the manufacturing sphere) - just sit back and watch in awe the investments that will be made in the manufacturing sector....

Having huge numbers in terms of the population may give you some advantage, yes (attention) - but rest assured it is what you can do even when you have not such a huge population that counts - and in that regard nobody comes close to SA yet. We do a whole lot. That is why we are not concerned about attention.

So yes - we are not at all worried about being overlooked - it's just not possible that SA can be overlooked in global matters. You can't even begin to talk about Africa and make references about this and that without citing SA in your sentence....

Oppose this lets hear!

Mopolchi:
If Nigerian government does not protect SAs working in mtn, shoprite, game, stanbic bank and allow SAs be killed, won't the SA government not complain? If after the complaint fell on deaf ears, won't the SA government not do the same as the Nigerian government? The recalling is a sign of disapproval for the nonchalance of the SA government. Mark you, when Buhari assumes office, it will be even worse to the SA government. As for our people there, they should find a way out of that place. There is nothing viable there unless drugs selling, prostitution and raping and killing of foreigners (which for them are the cause of their woes). When they are back, we can send the SA citizens back and give their jobs to our brothers who agreed to return.

You should be ashamed of your post. Your understanding of issues is very shallow.

Your people don't want to find their way out of here.......try calling them back let's see how many will actually go back to Africa's largest economy country....almost no one.

That should say a lot about your silly statement .....''there is nothing viable for them over there".

kinibigdeal:
I never expected you to blame south African government because they help you

Blame South African government for what really?

sinizia:
Your posts lends credence to the saying; "if you want to hide something from a Black man (Nigerians especially), put it in a book."

If it's to ogle at pórn for 3 hours, you won't find it "too long."

@ Topic, i wonder why Tinubu criticizes everything without finding facts. For Christ's sake, Nigeria didn't recall the man. GEJ never gave that order. The morón that carried out that task has been suspended by GEJ. Tinubu should take a chill pill with this unsolicited and meaningless attacks.


And BTW, let's stop calling these killings - Xenophobia. It's a fùcking [b]GENOCIDE going in S.A!![/b]

What genocide? You are talking absolute rubbish. Genocide is what is going on over there - that's what genocide is.

MizMyColi:
If he really wrote this, which I think he did....
Then he has made valid and constructive points.
One that our government should look into.

Though I fault the part where he said the south African government is not to blame for their lackadaisicality, while I understand where he is coming from, I think it is in order to call out the SA government for their gross mismanagement of the crisis.

All in all, this is a really good write up.
Kudos to Mr BAT.

Refer to the bold line.......don't you think you need to take your sanity medication?

efilefun:
How i wish every foreigner can leave south africa and also all countries stop business transactions with them, lets see how they will rot within few months

Please complete this line....

If wishes were horses..............

Dream on dreamer!!!!!!