obailala:
I expected this to be a common sense issue, I even went ahead to explain in my previous post. But you went ahead to cancel my post and then returned with further meaningless questions.

The allure of easy oil wealth forced the corruption and laziness out of Nigerians. Before oil, Nigeria had a thriving diversified economy and no region was parasitic on any other. But all that changed after oil.

El Rufai's prayer for oil to dry up was only a figure of speech to lay emphasis on how oil wealth in Nigeria turned out to be a curse instead of a blessing; he wasnt literally asking for oil to dry up. Today, 5 out of the 6 zones in Nigeria are lazy and unproductive parasites to the south-south because of this same feeding bottle economy which Nigeria became because of easy oil wealth.

As it stands today, the damage has already been done, oil is still Nigeria's only source of income. So I'm sorry, your question about the uproar due to militants stopping oil production is a very pointless question.

obailala:

What do you understand by the word 'hypocritical'? Could it be that the topic of discussion is beyond your intellectual ability to comprehend? Why dont you ask when in doubt?

Nigeria's economy is currently hinged on ONLY OIL. If you stop the oil flowing today, Nigeria's economy dries up, inflation goes up, there's instant hunger and suffering across the land, your mothers, fathers and children go hungry. Nigeria got a taste of that in 2016 when militants brought down Nigeria's oil production by over 50% and till now, we havent completely recovered from it. Even an elementary school child knows this, so how exactly can any adult possibly be asking me why I cried blue murder when militants halted oil production?

All of the above horrible things can happen only because Nigeria relies on only one commodity (oil) for its survival. Before oil was discovered, Nigeria's economy was diversified, we had oil palm, cocoa, cotton, groundnut, rubber etc etc. Nigeria had plenty commodities and services which maintained its economy but with the comming of oil, Nigeria and Nigerians became physically and intellectually lazy due to the massive easy money coming from oil; every other means of support for the economy was abandoned. This explains the wisdom behind El Rufai's prayer for oil to dry up so Nigerians can become hardworking again and stop being parasitic.

Hope you get the point now?

Ugosample:


What is so hypocritical about the truth ?

Nigeria hooked on oil is the biggest problem of Nigeria, and to the Niger Delta too.

It's the resource curse, or Dutch Disease if you may.

Do a little research on these terms, you need it

LordIsaac:
Hmmm...if only the Igbo race could be this united ; not placing the burden on the shoulders of one tyrant with selfish motives !

obailala:
Just taking a look at the comments on the first page, it is obvious that prejudice against Rufai has completely twisted the brains of too many people. Rufai has simply stated the gospel truth about how oil wealth has killed the thinking faculty and left Nigeria as a lazy undeveloping nation since 1959.

Ugosample:


You guys are so right.

Wealth without work or innovation have ruined resource rich third world countries

Look at the Nigerian society, the allure for free money is just irresistible, e.g. MMM, unbridled sports betting, extortion in the road, etc

It's a shame tho

Ojiofor:
The state governor lied and covered it up so that Abuja will grant him a second term.
This a recent interview BISHOP-Ebelechukwu who the governor accused of masterminding the Ozubulu Catholic attarck.
https://www.facebook.com/Igbotvnetwork/videos/811815212318512/

NgeneUkwenu:
Umu Ochicha Kporo Coat!!!!

Blue3k:


I agree on two points it's not the Igbo collective fault. Second the federal government has it political motives like always.

My point of contention is Ojukwu didn't push harder for his other guys. He wanted to be buried a Nigerian soldier at end of the day. Lastly Nigeria doesn't owe the Biafran soldiers the same deal. Pardons aren't a right as you know.

laudate:

Everyone from a different ethnic group (who was not Igbo) that fought for Biafra, was either humiliated, abandoned or executed on flimsy charges. How sad!

laudate:

Ehn, everyone knows that the affliction worrying you, is what is making you incoherent. Where in my last post did I blame the entire Igbo race? What was the lie inside any of my comments? Go back and read what I wrote with an open mind if you can, and stop projecting your hate-filled tendencies into my remarks. Maybe you are the one paying goons to support your myopic position on social media, who knows? That is probably why you can easily make reference to such things.

And my question still stands: When Ojukwu was busy getting his own pardon from the federal govt, did he make a case to the same govt that the ranks and entitlements of those who fought alongside him in Biafra, should be restored? If you do not like that question, please hug the nearest transformer with wet hands or jump into the nearest lagoon, with your hate-filled soul! You will not be missed!

laudate:

Una like to dey shift goal post. When Ojukwu was busy getting his own pardon from the federal govt, did he make a case to the same govt that the ranks and entitlements of those who fought alongside him in Biafra, should be restored?

GeneralTee:


This is the more reason why you should read the book on him later to be published this month.

I'll argue that Banjo made the right decision to stay and fight for a united Nigeria. It is those who decided to kill him that should be held responsible for his death.

Daeylar:


Don't mind the silly op,
I wonder how someone can say only men helped



Really despicable

Gourdoinc:
I watched /listened to alot of videos/audios during the radio biafra era, I observed the keen interests the uneducated ones in the south east and south south paid to those messages. I, like many other igbos assumed this is noise and should be ignored, yet we didn't understand that in a disenfranchised people, seeds of hate, discord and propaganda are easily sown to good effect. sooner than we knew it, the social media sphere was overtaken with hateful igbos who abused and threatened death on their neighbours, propaganda messages of perceived crimes and hurt by the northern and western groups and while as usual people like me assumed these miscreants aren't the respectable and hard working igbos business men scattered across the world, events from that period till now have proven that Ndi igbo have suddenly lost their senses.

igbo people. have suffered in Nigeria, take a trip across igbo land and observe how much suffering exists there. no meaningful trade value (local industries or multinationals), absence of federal presence, marginalization on federal appointments, contracts and allocation. these are very very true and it's not surprising the glut of unhappy faces which greets a visitor to a typical igbo village. many thrre haven't seen the good life, the good life can only buy exist outside igbo land. infact it clear that when something comes, the igbo man will be excluded on purpose for reasons known to the north and west. this has created a deep seated hatred and it's no surprise the IPOB has found able bodied men (educated and uneducated) to do their biddings with the false hope that all their disenfranchisement will be solved by a new nation.

the old biafra didn't fail only militarily (read your history) it also failed within. biafra failed weeks after is announcement and it's internal squabbles led to its military demise. this all points out that even a noble idea such as biafra could fail if not founded on sound principles. look at the IPOB biafran agenda, a biafran country without defined members, a country without good relations with its soon to be neighbours, a country whose elite are silent while the pawns are at the forefront. a country whose major supporters are either with British passports (Kanu) or based outside the south east or Nigeria. it must be pointed out that majority of these people have no stake (meaningful business) in the entire igbo land.

a question to the IPOB based biafran supporters I ask is this,
since Nigeria existed especially post military era, have we had governors, senators and reps who were igbo or not?

did these people receive their allocations or not ?

where are these monies or infrastructure ?

where these governors been yoruba Muslims or Fulani?

was there any time another tribe stopped igbo land from having state based development even though federal government disenfranchised us.

what are the states of the state roads, local govt roads, state infrastructure etc yet for these years allocations were received freely from the criminal model of damaging the Niger delta for the good of others.

biafra has always existed in every state and every local govt. because every state is homogeneous in its govt structure very similar to what the biafran model preaches. yet what have we to show for it.

igbos invested heavily nationwide and today are the back bone of development everywhere, how come many didn't look towards home and repartiete this money if at all. there was a consciousness towards a future country. how come abia state the home state of Nnamdi Kanu is a failed state, destroyed by igbo men who regularly received billions of naira in federal allocation. even during the boom years of president Jonathan. yet we have refused to see that the problem lies in the Nigerian in each and everyone of us and not our tribes.

ndi-igbo need orientation, we need to look towards home and develop our region, we must pursue investments in our region and fight vehemently against bad leaders such as okorocha and orji etc who have proved to be bad leaders time and time again. we can't be lions outside our region and cats within it. igbo must unite and fight for the development of our region via pro igbo development agenda. the federal govt didn't develop any region, we igbos did that via Personal efforts. govt only built roads which didn't even last. trade was facilitated by us, industries were facilitated by us, good housing scheme were facilitated by us and because we are generally peaceful people, we can always attract forgein investment.

a homogeneous country called biafra isn't a solution, a country with Yorubas and hausa as enemies isn't the solution. a strong igbo development initiative which encourages every igbo person outside igbo land to look towards our own region and contribute towards it's development should be our primary interest.

Nnamdi Kanu has nothing to offer asides hate, propaganda and discord. he is focusing on hate and revenge than focusing on how to better the lives of Ndi igbo and it's region.

cococandy:
so some slowpoke brought this shit to nairaland. Seen it being parroted about on the media.

Like the idiot I suppose you are, you failed to research or acknowledge how women have helped immensely during these times. Typical of evil patriarchal snots like the original poster to try to rewrite history by ignoring the contributions of women. Trying to further your agenda by using people's pain and suffering? Despicable

And to further buttress your idiocy, you failed to realize that this post was originally created to support rednekc racists who made it to try to diminish their effects of their racism.

cococandy:
http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Wichita-woman-headed-to-Houston-with-Harvey-relief-442414683.html

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2017/08/29/sf-woman-real-time-mapping-app-harvey-rescue-relief/

http://bakersfieldnow.com/news/local/bakersfield-woman-headed-to-houston-to-help-with-harvey-relief

Just a few links for women helping out. Because they are not posing for pictures lifting people out of water doesn't mean they are sitting down doing nothing.
Many of the volunteers and donors to this cause are women. And I'm pained to a sexist asshat trying to use this disaster/death/suffering to further the cause of misogyny.

Thousands Women are working round the clock in shelter homes (free of charge) and overtime in the hospitals taking care of people who have been injured.

Maybe next time you want to be a sexist slowpoke, do your research first.

TheHonourable:


Well Akwa Ibom was part of Cross River, hence the mistake. Besides that, Akwa Ibom and Cross River states share much similarities like languages and dressing and other cultural elements

Ichietome:

Mtchew

MalcoImX:
It's not a justification or an endorsement but to see where those shouting stood when they held sway.

mrphysics:
South east is turning into something else. Maybe this is the reason while some people are bold enough to speak of war

HDVideos:
Is it just me?

I think Osekola Obaze, the PDP Governorship aspirant for Anambra state bears a very close resemblance to Ondo state Governor, Rotimi Akeredolu, you could think they are twin brothers.


Showing most Nigerians from the south are interrelated, We need Southern Unity.


See Pics Below

DabuIIIT:
The govs are only being constitutional,they are smart.


self appointed minister and chief investigator of Ipob affairs

Another hungry jobless mouth foaming self appointed minister of Ipob affairs

Chairman,association of wheelBIRO pushers of makurdi

get lost,if ND aint part of Ipob,shall we then say we wanna be continue with the parasitic hausa_run nigeriag? 4k_off jawe,u kno nothing.

maclatunji:
I have taken time to engage the IPOB-inspired Biafran agitators whose propaganda is often also expressed by some Igbo contributors to radio phone-in programmes and there is a trend.

They are quick to list their perceived 'injustices' against Igbos and the Southeast as justification for their agitation. Meanwhile, they fail to realize that their agitation is likely to make the condition of the people they claim to be fighting for worse.

Let us say Nnamdi Kanu was not initially caught when he sneaked into Nigeria and was successful with his agenda to raise agitation in the Southeast. Depending on how successful he would have been, hundreds to thousands of people would have died in the region and there still would be no Biafra. Don't forget, this is not 1967 where a regional system exists and neither are we having military rule where some Southeastern officer can seek to commandeer troops in a secession bid. Any attempt to raise the issue of secession is just a call for suffering on the people of the Southeast. Whatever suffering you might think you are experiencing now will be like paradise to a conflict situation.

I am sure some responder would quickly type- 'we want a referendum like the United Kingdom held for Scotland.' My reaction- stop engaging in dubious analysis and postulations.

The legal framework and political structure of the United Kingdom with its constituent nations is not the same as Nigeria. The Nigerian constitution does not give any window for separation or secession including a referendum. Even insisting on one will still in all likelihood lead to trouble.

So, instigating trouble and getting people in harm's way is not going to help the Southeast and no foreign country will do anything tangible about it too. Their interests are firmly with Nigeria not a rag-tag bunch of secessionist agitators too closely aligned to a discredited Jonathan administration.

Harsh? Well, you need a reality check before you get people killed for nothing.

greenpasture:
K

Good I have been looking for someone to talk to on this topic.

First off, the laws I quote are extant laws. No one would be applying punitive laws against Biafra. Rather, Biafra would require exemptions from current laws through new legislation or more likely amendment of current laws.

Secondly Biafra does not automatically become a member of Ecowas. There are admission requirements and processes under the Lome treaty that have to be complied with. This can take at least earliest 3-5 years - this is with the full consent of all current council members.

There are a myriad of legal minefields to be navigated. Let me take double tax. With a specific double tax treaty passed by the house and signed by the president, biafran citizens in Nigeria would pay two taxes. It might not look like much but it's a big deal.

I would be interested to know the "plethora" of political and may I even add financial options available to Biafra in the event that Nigeria chooses to have a " hard Biafrexit"

Let me conclude by saying that I support Biafrans right to self determination and I fully support its exit from Nigeria. I believe that Biafrans share greater ethnic affinity to the Cameroon and central african nations than they do with any of the major tribes currently in Nigeria ( outside of mixed marriages). The yorubas have affinity with the beninoise of Benin Republic, the Saros ( of Sierra Leone and of course the Togolese and outside Nigeria Brazil and Cuba. The North connects with the Maghreb region and ultimately Arabia. The reconnection of Biafra to Central Africa is ultimately unavoidable and perhaps even necessary for both Biafra and the Central african economic union. Cameroon and not Nigeria is likely to pose a greater irritant to a sovereign Biafra.

However, I do not see its current feasibility. In my opinion it would take at least 15-20 years to actualize because it would require a massive domestication of its economy within its own borders. ( let us even leave the issues of borders) as a prelude, and the exit of all characters involved in the the War. That generation is too emotional about the topic . Transfer of assets and economy must happen before the separation because what are currently local bank transfers and the movement of currency would come under an entirely different legal regime. A change in the mindset of igbo businessmen to locate and relocate assets within Biafran borders is an absolute must.

My advice is that supporters of Biafra tone down the rhetoric and begin with immediate effect, the fundamental pre requisites of economic domestication.

I look forward to your comments and observations.

Modification. I thought to add that Ecowas laws regarding setting up of businesses does not oust the supremacy of local laws. An Ecowas visa is an on arrival, time limited one and I does not grant automatic right to residency or business activation. Just so you know.

greenpasture:


There is something very common in NL; people are very comfortable with generalities. Once we get into specifics ( remember I gave concrete challenges facing the Biafra separatist movement; I listed specific laws and regulations that would affect rights and assets) people get uncomfortable and either try to turn it into a joke or to resort to insults because they don't have the resources or information to deal with the issues.

I am a little disappointed Because you led off with something that sounded like a political and legal reality but immediately I tried to turn this into a debate on facts you retreated into some escapist route.

Your generation 25-37/8 are meant to lead this nation but you can't do more that generalities, jokes and insults.

It's fine. I get it. I wish you all the best.

Afam4eva:
I'm beginning to think that pro-Biafra supporters an in particular, IPOB are full of egocentric characters because i don't understand the constant demonizing of Willie Obiano who has done nothing but added his quota to the development of Anambra and Igboland. He's probably the only Igbo governor who has made giant strides and he keeps getting heckled by IPOB. You must learn to separate your agitations which you're entitled to from the constant harrasment of Obiano.

mazimee:







Believe me, the way you guys carry the whole Biafra issue for head, one would assume that you have something to loose or gain.

What are you going to loose if Biafra stays? Nothing!
What do stand to gain if Biafra stays ? Nothing!

Why are you people taking this issue so personal?