No wonder. Was wondering how a grown ass man could be thinking from his legs the way you do. It's clear now. I won't waste my energy responding to you again. You will wake up when you grow up.

mrvitalis:

I'm young 24 ...

Kanu is 40 and has not achieved anything meaningful

Check your first post on this thread. Did you attack the OP's point or her person?

Hypocrite.

mrvitalis:


Can't you attack my points and live my person

Is this how Kanu will debate ??

Your shamelessness is so DISGUSTING.

How about you contesting in your state and using your shallow ideology to change it for good?

Corrupt armchair analyst.

You acknowledge that things are wrong in the states, but you make zero effort to change things, yet you have the effrontry to demonize those who are working off their behinds and are putting their necks on the stake to change things for the collective, the way they believe is better.

My comfort is that you are not Igbo and will never be one.

mrvitalis:


What you don't get is this ...I am as much Igbo as you and Kanu

All I care is the progress of my Igbo nation that's will dominate Nigeria and Africa in my lifetime

You Igbos can't even explain how Biafra will benefit igbos

Kanu is from abia let him contest for governor and forget about federal allocation and use the internally generated revenue he would get in abia if Biafra succeed and develop his state then people like me can support him

So your insane hallucinations and wicked imaginations are your best bases for this collective witchcraft?

Then get ready to have your burbles bursted, because your wickedness and ilks multiplied by infinity CANNOT stop what's up.

maclatunji:


Simple scientific extrapolation. If you cannot live in a country where other people are doing better without being disruptive, your effect as an independent state with an army would be worse.

It would just be war on all sides of the border and civil war within the entity. We refuse to subsidize the folly.

Counter the facts with superior FACTS.

Spare us your warped opinions and whatever gibberish a silly Nairalander or demented old uncle said

Provide audio or video evidence of our hate/war mongering or rest in silence.



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Lloydfolarin:


Igbos are nothing but pathetic liars

You guys are war mongering fools not the Northerners

Before independence, both Yorubas and Igbos are welcome to the North. You were given free hands to take any appointment in their civil service commission without any prejudice or discrimination until Igbos began to taunt them with all sort of unwanted names. The North even went as far as given lands to both Yorubas and Igbos to build businesses but Igbos bleeped it up as a result of igbos' stupidity

Igbos refused to employ other tribes into their own civil service commission while they enjoy being employed by other regions.

The hate speech we heard on Radio Biafra against Northerners and Yorubas is enough to kill you all.

The hate speech coming from Igbos throughout l2015/2016 is worst than what was obtainable in Rwanda in 1999

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Counter the facts with superior FACTS. Spare us your warped opinions and whatever gibberish a silly "Nairalander said"

Jelal0007:
like a nairalander rightly said,persecution complex is ingrained in ur DNA.

See idiotic attempt at altering history.

Nnamdi Kanu started hate speech in Nigeria? Gosh!!

I guess Buhari started his government preaching love? Boko Haram and Fulai Herdsmen are nationalistic and patriotic movements, and that's why macilatunji NEVER wrote any epistle against them nor admit that their endless killings, illegal occupation and rhetorics are all acts of hate.

Is it not surprising that chronic hate filled bigot and potential terrorist is sermonizing others on the ills of hate?

Shekau Olatunji, we are not buying your empty generalization gimmicks.

Please provide SPECIFICS. Post the specific videos and audios of Kanu's hatemongering or hide your face in shame.

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maclatunji:
The events of the last 2 years have shown one fact- the elders in Igboland have lost their way and as a result the youths have lost their sense of direction.

How else would one explain the emergence of Radio Biafra as led by Nnamdi Kanu to incite hate and forment trouble in Nigeria?

The Biafran agitation post-civil war is not new. The Ralph Uwazurike led Movement for the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB) has been agitating for a long time prior to the emergence of Nnamdi Kanu's Independent People of Biafra (IPOB). There were protests, arrests and releases. Other regions too have different groups claiming they want Independence from Nigeria -the Oodua People’s Congress (APC) and the Arewa People’s Congress (APC) in the North.

However, these groups had not employed hate speech as a tool until Nnamdi Kanu came along. His offensive broadcasts created resentment and agitation across ethnic lines and when he arrogantly entered Nigeria despite his subversive activities was promptly arrested. His being charged to court and eventual release on bail dragged for months due to the government's strategy of stretching the legal process to its limits obviously for security reasons.

Many have argued that this has made Nnamdi Kanu popular. For decent people, this need to be a problem, one just needs to look at the following that some Nigerian musicians have to understand that popularity can be achieved without becoming a national security threat.

But not so for Nnamdi Kanu, he has continued to verbally instigate people he perceives to be his opponents within and outside Igboland even bragging that 'elections will not hold'.

Instead of abiding by his bail conditions, he is flouting them.

I ask: where the leaders of Igboland in all of these?

The problem with being obnoxious is that there is no monopoly of it. Now, a coalition of Arewa Youth groups have followed in Kanu's path and threatened Igbos with violence on October 1 if they do not leave the North. As crazy and terrible this is, we have to trace it back to Nnamdi Kanu, leaders and youths of the Southeast who failed to call him to order.

The solution to this dire situation is for the people of the Southeast to curb their recalcitrant son to create a cordial atmosphere. This will also help calm the recalcitrant youths in the North and elsewhere. While true leaders across different parts of the country work together to build a better country for all.

Failure to do this would create huge problems for everybody and that would be unfortunate indeed because it would take Nigeria back many years and put the Igbos in particular in a dire situation.

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Your problem is silly generalizations.

1) Are you a landlord?

2) Has any of your igbo tenants ever called you a parasite?

You probably think that Nigeria begins and ends on Nairaland.

Again, this generation of igbos will not be passive like their older ones. You should start treating them the way you wish to be treated, because they will always be more than glad to treat you the same way you treat them.

afongha:


The irony. The bolded quote aptly and beautifully describes your ilk. Which other ethnic group goes to another man's land, is allowed to develop, own property and prosper, only the for the group to start calling THEIR VERY HOSTS PARASITES!!

comments like "but for the Igbo man' presence, you guys will be nothing!!"

You say the Igbo have been hated since independence, if indeed true, then the reason cannot be far fetched. Your insufferable boastfulness, inordinate hilter-like grandiosity and pride, rancid noise-making, empty chest-beating, persecution complex,etc are just a few.

We are having an intelligent discussion here dude. Stop interrupting the flow with your nonsense and bigotry.

This discussion is neither a gathering for demented old fools nor a playground for children.

So run along and don't quote me again because I will ignore you.


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neoOduduwa:
This is the biggest bullshit I've ever read. You're actually the hateful and anti-social ones. Visit any pan-igbo group on social media, it's all nothing but hatred. Sometimes I wonder what's its like being from your tribe. Funny enough, the same people can't survive or achieve their full potential in life unless they go to other people's lands. This is why no one visits your region, this is why no one invests there. An average Yoruba would prefer investing in Abuja or the north to investing in igboland. They never appreciate anything. Arrogant as fvck.

And now sh¡t just got real, if you want Biafra, then leave. Stop all the noise about people going hungry without you. 90% of you people don't pay taxes so you're actually parasites on your host states. Ibos are traders who can't survive unless they sell to the same people they insult on daily basis, this is the reality of things.

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No, don't get it twisted dude. You are not preventing any carnage by being hypocritical and dishonest. You are only postponing the carnage that way, and infusing it with more venom.

If you really want to prevent the carnage and end it for good, there is only one way. Stand up for UNIVERSAL JUSTICE and quit your falsehood and penchant for hypocrisy.

You don't prevent carnage by appeasing the bully, that's merely rewarding and reinforcing him. You stop the bully by standing up to him, and insisting that JUSTICE is done in an atmosphere of fairness and equity.

So quit your fake messianic and I-told-you-so nonsense, because neither your eyes nor those of anyone in all your future generations will live to see another mass anihilation of Igbos.

It simply WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN.

awesomely:


A cow that is in a hurry to go abroad, will soon come back as corned beef. All efforts to prevent bloodshed and a repeat of carnage, to you is always seen as delusion, because you are blinded by hatred.

By the time my DELUSION becomes REALITY on OCT 1ST, I just pray you won't add Oct 1st 2017, to your long list of historical attacks against the Igbo.

That (the bolded) is your problem. You don't know the difference between opinion and facts.

The tendency to use your twisted opinion to discredit historic facts, is called MENTAL SICKNESS.

Ever seen a sane person arguing with a mad person?

Here's to highlight your display of mental sickness:

1. Someone posted a timeline of igbo killings since 1945. But you justified the killings and called it "reactionary" (in your warped opinion) without providing any counter facts. This a case of pure delusion - trying to change historic facts with silly ideas of personal opinion.

2. When I called you out on your falsehood and pure hypocrisy, you switched to claiming that other southerners were murdered too (as if that changed the fact that igbos were killed), yet without any reference to those other phantom southerners.

3) I thought you claimed initially that all the historic killings were only reactionary? I was waiting for you to cite how igbos provoked the 1945 and 1953 massacres, for example. But you suddenly switched to the rants of "other southerners were murdered too".

Can't you see how those underscore the sickness?

zoedew:

Rather than saying one who holds an opinion different from yours is sick � it is better to state an argument you consider superior and let readers infer what they please. I note that you consider that a waste of time. It speaks volumes of the person you are. Baba Chinua Achebe had this to say about your ilk who tar an otherwise industrious, accommodating and loving Ndigbo -"There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend; by its noisy exhibitionism and disregard for humility and quietness." #spread love and not hatred.

You are actually sicker than I had thought. Debunking your falsehoods is a waste of time. Keep distorting history. Your delusion will soon catch up with you.

awesomely:


Was it only your tribe that was attacked? When trouble starts in the north, no southerner residing in the north will be spared.

But your self-centered aim and inconsideration for others, makes you feel and claim the victim.

You are talking nonsense. And your heart is full of hypocrisy and falsehood.

No where in the democratic world is civil disobedience regarded as "war mongering and drawing the first blood".

No time did the IPOB call for genocide or expulsion of any ethnic group.

No time did they produce a song or propaganda demonizing any group, threatening their very existence or calling for their extinction.

But the north has historically done ALL the above against the igbos and ARE STARTING TO DO IT AGAIN. Yet, for some clownish diabolical reasons, folks like you are justifying the evil moves with your shameless double-tongues.

Provide JUST ONE SCENARIO or evidence where IPOB specifically says that any ethnic group is better "aborted" than alive, or just shut up forever.

Else, if you keep spreading this hypocrisy and falsehood, it will get to a point where murder will become a justifiable reward for your son's daring to call the bluff of the school gang and opting to go alone.

Karma is NOT a Nigerian neither is it from your tribe. So it knows no mercy or favoritism.


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zoedew:


While condemning the hate song in it's entirety it remains to be said that the SouthEast drew the first blood with the hate and war mongering approach to self determination (a right legally theirs to claim). Law of cause and effect playing out here. Nowhere in history has hatred overcome love. All wars end up at the round table where love prevails. Pause and think very, very deeply and you will see that what gains Ndigbo have made within Nigerian power equation after the civil war ended is fast getting eroded with the disconnect and distrust engendered by the modus for Biafran agitation. For a sampler, Ihejirika might for a very long time to come be the only trusted South Easterner to be NA Chief of Staff for understandable strategic reasons. Has Ndigbo paused to ask why despite Nkalagu limestone deposits and numerous competent SouthEasterners in his employ DangoteGroup is not in the SouthEast? Spread love not hatred.

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Don't get it twisted.

The Igbos had been hated and massacred even before independence.

Igbo hating has proven to be a culture to some.

Nnamdi Kanu is merely saying ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. If you tag that as hatred while ignoring the LOOOOOONG history of igbo hating and igbo massacre in the country, then you have a problem.

All forms of equal-stake and healthy relationships thrive on MUTUAL respect. If you hope to abuse or intimidate your partner into harmony, then you are sick. And if your partner continues to condone the trauma of your abusive ways, then he is sick too.

The human spirit is created as a free agent. You simply cannot keep it suppressed forever.

zoedew:


Nowhere in history has hatred overcome love. All wars end up at the round table where love prevails. Pause and think very, very deeply and you will see that what gains Ndigbo have made within Nigerian power equation after the civil war ended is fast getting eroded with the disconnect and distrust engendered by the modus for Biafran agitation. For a sampler, Ihejirika might for a very long time to come be the only trusted South Easterner to be NA Chief of Staff for understandable strategic reasons. Spread love not hatred.

The guy provided a factual timeline of historic UNPROVOKED killings of the Igbos ranging from as far back as 1945 and you are here ranting gibberish.

Thing is, the pathologically dishonest and hypocritical folks like you are the reason IPOB will remain unstoppable while the country continues to retrogress.

awesomely:


You always quote retaliatory attacks on Igbo. ....

The guy is so shortsighted. Been warning him for ages. But he's as stubborn as hell. Good for him.

omenka:
Tonye, you guys are already ripping yourselves apart at the very top.

What future is there for folks like you?

Abraham's payment of tithe was recorded once in the entire old testament. This implies that he paid his tithe voluntarily and by God's leading - just like when he sacrificed Isaac. It was not compulsory. Tithe did not become compulsory until the conquest of Canaan and the formal institutionalization of the Levitical Order and Aaronic Priesthood.

This Levitical Order coupled with the Aaronic Priesthood, was put aside by the death and resurrection of Christ. So there is no more need for daily burnt offerings and animal sacrifices. No more need for the PROFESSIONAL priesthood. This is actually why Paul said that he would rather die working with his hands than depend solely on the Church for survival.

Thus I found it curious when you claimed that Tithe is meant for the Church. Can you please prove that assertion scripturally without going out of context?

Please note that I am not in anyway asking anyone to stop paying tithe. But please take this from me, and write it down somewhere. What the Pastor in the OP is doing is the future of the church. That is the ONLY WAY the Church can survive the coming global Anti-Christ movement and large scale uprising against ALL FORMS OF ORGANIZED RELIGION.

The KIND OF PRACTICAL SACRIFICIAL LOVE which this Pastor is proclaiming now is the Church's LONE ticket to survival in the coming years. And you can take that to the Bank.

One more thing: The Pastor made a profound statement when he said that he cannot teach people that they have to bring money to church BEFORE God can bless them.

Friend that's the root of the matter. The idea that you have to STRUGGLE to EARN God's blessings for yourself is the biggest favor the Church is doing the anti-Christ spirit. As times goes on, Science and humanistic advancement in knowledge will make most of these things easily accessible to ALL with little or zero efforts. This commonalization of the so called blessings will make the current teachings of the Organized Church lose its present appeal. In fact this is already happening. And this is what the anti-Christ will capitalize on. The only counter we have is the message of PRACTICAL LOVE (which the OP is proclaiming) and making sure that the Church people start using their minds and embracing real education.

Again, the only thing that will prevent the rich, weak or poor church members from embracing the lure of anti-Christ is a timely eradication of the spirit of Selfishness (which is the root of greed and every other evil) and prompt enthronement of the CULTURE OF PRACTICAL LOVE - just as the first disciples did. This is why Jesus said that the only way the world would know that He is with us is when we love each other the way he had loved us and died for us while we were still sinners.

The Church of the end time will congregate in tiny circles of influences at homes, work/market places and in the streets. It's not going to be at the cathedrals and huge auditoriums as usual.

Professional priesthood is already loosing credibility, soon it will lose influence.

Statsocial:

Abraham tithed before the old testament

*Not all parts of the section Old testament represents the Old covenant of Moses. Prior to the law given by God Abraham and Isaac had paid tithe.

Now to address the post. There I a difference between Alms and Tithe. The Alm is what u gi ve to the poor and tithe what you give to church. Never mix it together. You may not understand the full extent to denying the church funds until it happens. If everyone chooses to give their tithe to the poor the Christian order and power would crash.

I was blessed today by TD jakes message and that only happened because some christian somewhere choose to support his ministry with funds which in turn gave him d opportunity to minister to me here in Nigeria. Those Christians may not know me but I am blessed by their sacrifice.

Only the most pitiful and disgustful entity on the planet could spew so huge a pile of pig poo.


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Alcatraz005:
I greet my fellow forumites especially my immediate constituents (yoruba) and I just want to implore all to resist any provocation by the igbos to destroy our country.

There is nothing to gain in war but much to be lost in a needless conflagration in the most populous black nation on earth. The consequences of a war in Nigeria is better imagined as Syria will be child's play compared to the level of destruction that we will experience in Nigeria. Another reason why we should resist being goaded into conflict by the igbos is because they are a defeated race already hence the constant frustration from them. The effects of the civil war defeat of the igbos is still being felt by them. What we are witnessing right now in the form of the current agitations is that the current generation of igbos just came to the realisation that igbos have been consigned to slave status (2nd class citizens in their own country). This sudden reality is why they are exasperated. It is the stubborn struggle of a dying animal. In Yoruba, we call it (japooro). Ibo n japooro ni.....

Let's face it, the igbos cannot win a free and fair Presidential Election in Nigeria and they know it. Which of the two big tribes will vote for an igbo? None! Igbos have burnt all bridges of friendship and they wish to bring the whole house (Nigeria) on all other peace loving Nigerians. I specifically want to appeal to my Hausa brothers to withdraw the quit notice issued to igbos as insisting on pushing the igbos out will be playing into the grand plans of the enemies of Nigeria. I would not trade the peace and tranquillity of Nigeria for my fervent wish to see igbos punished for their hate and insolence. It is not just worth it. Love trumps hate any day, anytime.

The Igbos are not worth the destruction that will trail the execution of the quit notice. As any discerning mind will notice, the igbos are losing relevance every day as they are now the butt of jokes Nationwide. We should allow them fully express their folly to their full derision and chagrin. We won't fight a war because of Igbos. Never!

I would end with a reference to a principle I encountered in the book, 48 laws of power by Robert Greene. And it goes thus: a strategem is more powerful than weapons of war as it (stratagem) has the power to destroy the lives of babies in the womb of their mothers. An apt example is the genius of the late sage, Chief Obafemi Awolowo who without firing a single bullet, defeated the the biafran forces and essentially brought the Nigerian Civil war to an abrupt end through the power of his immense intellect. The effect of Awolowo's sheer intelligence is still being felt by the Igbos today who have essentially been turned to generators of internal revenue for the children of Awolowo and Ahmadu Bello. The war has been won and lost, we do not need another war in Nigeria. Never again!

The Igbo's should be pitied and not hated.

God bless the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

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You clearly are being mischievous and quoting Kanu out of context.

Kanu said that because Ohaneze succumbed to the bait to make Igbos appear irresolute in their quest for self-determination, they consequently created the political crack which the enemy had exploited.

He did not say that Ohaneze ordered the killing. He merely said they are to be held responsible. And that's clearly just like you would hold your clerk responsible if she forgot to switch off the power at office and you came in the morning to notice that everything had gone ablaze overnight.

DONSMITH123:


So Ohaneze Ndigbo are no longer Igbo?

This headline is false and sensational. You guys should know better than make a fool of yourselves. There has been no second "gun men attack" in Anambra today, but only a case of suspected kidnap of a politician which also happened yesterday and is not a breaking news.

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Thank me later...

My dear, that storey is heart wrenching.

It sounds super dumb and sketchy to me. And, the fact that the state governor (coupled with the police) is pushing that narrative without proper investigations nor arrests is so pathetic.

It's a huge shame on Obiano!

They probably think they want to manage/prevent crisis, but they have no idea what they are dealing with. So many loopholes in their crappy story. The face of the funny governor was even on the sign board of the guy's birthday event.

The alleged target was not attacked during, before or after his birthday. The event was not disrupted. Instead, it were dozens of innocent worshippers in early morning service on Sunday morning who got hit - and many were killed in cold blood. Yet, the idiotic governor and security agencies want us to believe a lie.

Traditionally, in the eastern Catholic churches, the special thanksgiving masses are usually held by 9 am, how much more when it's for a prominent man who singlehandedly built the church where the thanksgiving was to be held.

How could such an event hold at 6am?

Fact is, I am just so sorry for the pathetic "one Nigerian" igbos. For example, I just visited the Sahara Reporters page containing the English transcript of the recently released anti-igbo song.

I scrolled to the comment section to see how people were responding. And, my gosh, I was totally blown away!!

You simply cannot believe the level of raw unclad hatred and disdain which folks are openly displaying against the igbos. Some are gleefully clamoring for genocide.

It's such a rotten world my dear!

Folks now openly clamour for murder of fellow humans. And when it does happen they publicly celebrate it gleefully.

It's a shame!

But I know that the Good will surely triumph over the evil. And the Light will always annihilate the darkness.

pazienza:
Please, I need Opinions of Igbo bu Igbo in this issue.

So we are also responsible for the 2 christian women that were murdered last year, whose murderers were discharged and acquitted by the state WITHOUT trials?

Guess you also agree that we are responsible for Boko Haram and Fulani Herdsmen?

Please don't bother quoting me again, because I won't respond to you.

You are seriously sick.

realhumanity:


Seriously, you guys know little about northern nigeria and the activities there. The mindless killings have reduced drastically because they have found a solution to it. but if these people are trying to commit genocide again, then you all brought it up. Let it be that they caused it and not the other way round.

You are actually very annoying.

It's twisted people like you who go about justifying armed robbers and rapists while blaming their victims for the crime.

If Kanu is responsible for the current call for genocide against the igbos, who then was responsible for the 1945 and 1953 massacres of the igbos in the north - those were BEFORE independence?

Was Kanu also responsible for these mindless killings that have continued in the north since independence till the birth of IPOB?

What did you smoke before finding a scapegoat to blame for the northern proven culture of mindless killings?

realhumanity:


After 1970, many igbos went their separate way to find one thing or the other to do. Some of these people stayed in the north for 10years before they became affluent. There was never a blueprint telling igbos want to do. They did as they pleased because they saw it as a practical solution. If you think you will be able to take it when they start killing us in the north, then I believe you are love lying to yourself than you believe. Except Nnamdi Kanu is trying to use the deaths in the north as a bargaining cheap to cry to the world about biafra.

How many igbos living in the north can you house when they return to the east, kindly estimate.

When was it actually proven that Diezeani stole money? Oh, the usual media porn? Okay, they should keep the masturbation going.

kingandamy4life:



let me tell you deziani did not steal money in cash from Nigeria rather she stole it through kick backs and contracts...wht she did was to give contracts, infated them and got the money outside Nigeria. she knows very well that she couldnt directly. thats why everything she did steal was outside Nigeria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQfSHkq0s10

How come she does not seem to have a distinct web presence?

Any idea about her direct contact? I would like to get in touch.

And what really is her last name? Is it Farouk or Jalingo?

Do you know if she's affiliated with the US registered Tabitha Ministry Inc. ?

http://www.tabithaministry.org

(Her name was not listed among the other Nigerian officers and directors on the site though).

Please any form of more personal information will be appreciated.

NgcoboP:
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Keep deceiving yourself.

Don't go and read up your history.

Continue wallowing in presumptions and political correctness.

Don't you also think that the 2017 Arewa quit notice was only issued to Christians and it happened to affect all the southern Christians, and not necessarily the igbos?

Confused people.

freshest4live:

I'm not totally against your agitation, but are you sure lgbos were the only ones killed in those riots or it was a Christian Muslim fight that affected all Southern christians?