Oops I made a mistake! What was breathed into Ha-adam was Nis-mat. and then Ha-adam became a living Nephesh.

Nismat can also be found in other parts of the bible. I just discovered from a concordance that it is used in Proverbs 20:27.

Proverbs 20
27The Nismat of man is the lamp of the LORD,
searching all his innermost parts.


So it seems according to this that that breath that we breathe is a spy that exposes all our deed to the LORD.

PastorAIO:

This is part of the problem of reading the bible in the wrong language. I’m genesis what was breathed into Adam was Nephesh, not Ruach. There are so many different words that are translated as soul in the bible.

In New Testament the word translated as soul is Psyche.

Is Psyche nephesh? That is a debate that is yet to be had by those who are experts. If the nephesh goes back to god when a person dies then why does the psyche that Jesus talks about not do so? After all we hear of souls in hell.

This is part of the problem of reading the bible in the wrong language. I’m genesis what was breathed into Adam was Nephesh, not Ruach. There are so many different words that are translated as soul in the bible.

In New Testament the word translated as soul is Psyche.

Is Psyche nephesh? That is a debate that is yet to be had by those who are experts. If the nephesh goes back to god when a person dies then why does the psyche that Jesus talks about not do so? After all we hear of souls in hell.

cornelboy:
They think that it's an entity that leaves the body after death and goes to either Hell or Heaven.
What does the Bible says about this Gen 2:7 KJV, "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breath into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living 'SOUL'".
Having proper understanding of the Scriptures we see that the SOUL consists of the body (dust) and spirit or breath of life ("ruach" in Hebrew).
When one dies, the spirit or breath returns to God and the body goes to the dust (decays).
So, the SOUL is you. You are a living SOUL!!!

Hello. I would imagine that every language in existence borrows words from any culture it comes into contact with. Yoruba even has words from Portuguese due to interacting with them since the 15tj century.

Words like Bata for shoes together with sabata in itshekiri is actually from Zapata, the Portuguese word for shoe.

Also, about iwa, which means character and existence, Oduduwa I learnt means Odu ti o da Iwa, that is Odu (womb) that created existence.
There are different types of iwa. I believe it is iwa pele that is associated with God and is considered the highest achievement in Ifa discipline.

Olu317:
I can't but agree to your thought provoking piece.It has indeed increase the fact finding of what elude our loss of memory of the past,in such a way that our ancestors encrypted their knowledge in pictographs, obelisks iron ore production, ceramic works,jewellery production.

Another unattended information is about, the renown Islamic studies Professor, Isaac Ogunbiyi, who assert also in his book, Orhography of Yoruba, that Yoruba language have been studied by scholars to the extent that nearly all have Arabic root. This information alone shows the direction where the language came from to the new world they met in West Africa

On the ‘o dud Iwa 'as a name remain descriptive of a person and the perfect character of his God. And it does show a reference to Iwa . The name Iwa is God in Yoruba Ifaodu corpus from the verse, I came in contact with,which I will share in not too long a time from now. The reason being that Ela was said to fuse Iwa with self; married to Iwa and they became one .Obviously, it was from this interpenetration that such as a woman came into existence. In Yoruba's world view,‘Iwa' is not adequately defined by mavern, scholars alikes because I the name Iwa does not have opposite of it. Iwa is Iwa and when we bring in negation to the name. Thus becomes, ‘ ko ni or è ni Iwa or ō ni Iwa!

Finally, many Yoruba words is even more interwoven with Hausa's. Elements of Arabic terms in Hausa's language are also found in Yoruba lexicon. Although, accent or pronunciations and replica of same phrase or words, twice differentiate them.

achorladey:


Matthew 12: For whoever does the WILL OF MY FATHER in heaven is my brother and sister and mother.”

What is the will of the FATHER?

From Jesus himself again........

John 6: 40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

Must you accept JESUS CHRIST as Lord to do will of the father

For this is the will of the father .....

Is this the full summary of the will of god? What about his other injunctions? What about the stoning of gays? Or eating meat mixed with milk?

bigname23:
dat is becos most post by atheist tend to attack other people,s religion and insult their God...you hardly see a christian post attacking Mohamed or Muslim post attacking Jesus...neither do they attack thier respective books

Mehn, that is another forum you’re talking about. Maybe it’s rediced now but many Christian threads attack Moslems and other denominations of even the same Christianity. I would even say the majority of threads are like that.

And when Yoruba was mostly islamized we started the story that we came from Mecca.
Sad!

I heard that Japanese empire was called Edo. Bini people may get some mileage out of that. The highest military rank in japan was called the Shogun. I’ve already heard a Yoruba guy try to link it with Yoruba Ogun for war. The guy was a pagan. Maybe if he was a Christian he would have leaned more to the Levant.

macof:


Unfortunately desperation to attach to semitic people will not allow these guys understand this

Interestingly, there are more words that sound vaguely alike between Yoruba and Japanese but since Japan is not where their religion comes from they have no interest in that

Just because you follow an Abrahamic religion should not be a reason for you to seek to destroy Yoruba history by Abrahamizing it

Preciousgirl:
Is a Christian pastor who endorses the zodiac signs and preaches it a false prophet?

Thank you

What do you mean by endorses? Do you mean that he believes in it as a way of telling the future or for understanding mankind?

As a physical reality the 12 constellations that make up the zodiac are there up in the sky. That’s undeniable. However what significance you give to them is another story altogether.

MuttleyLaff:
Its a phase. One of them mid life crisis things. He'll get over it, lmao.

Ishilove:

Frosbel needs serious deliverance.

MuttleyLaff:
I bet you don't recognise frosbel now?

Has anyone noticed that when a theists foams at the mouth and vigorously (though not rigorously) attacks atheism that he is well on his way To becoming an atheist himself. It is a sign of someone losing their faith.

This is too sad. First Igbo people and now ijebu. The destruction wrought on our minds by colonialism is immense.

Please there is no J sound in Hebrew. Just like Jesus is actually yehoshua so the Jebus are actually pronounced Yee boo see. Please just because a name In a language sounds vaguely like another in another language that doesn’t mean they are the same.

MetaPhysical:


I have endorsed this message!

absolutesuccess
.....add Ogogo-Magogo to the list. Ado. Ijesha. Respectively Gog & Magog, Ad, Gersham. Teach him what he does not know.
There are over a hundred place names in Yorubaland that are replications of place names in Afro-Asia. Some places have been lost sef due to wars in Yorubaland and sacking of towns.

Macof is using our contribution and knowledge to equip his learning. We should be proud that we are his teachers.
There was a post here about twins in Yorubaland and the rite of Kehinde holding seniority to Taiye and how this custom has root to Isaac's twins, Esau and Jacob. He read it and jumped out to contest it. He said its a crap, nothing at all connects Yoruba twins to Isaac's twins. To back his argument he gave us twins oriki - Ejire ara Isokun! It had to be pointed to him that the "Isokun" in the oriki is of course "Isaak".
His knowledge base is shallow and what he brings here are data collected from elsewhere, they are not self-inspiration. What he learns from us he deposits elsewhere.

Some of us author or contribute materials to writers and researchers, therefore we cannot give full list of what we know here. We can list a hundred place names and present artwork in Yorubaland that are precise match to places in Afro-Asia and culture.

What we call Agbada in Yorubaland is an ancient style of clothing that has not changed much for centuries and has remained in the Semitic culture till today and called "Abaya".
Agbada - Abaya - Cloak.
Tobi - Thobe - Garment
Bante - Pant

My point is to show that contrary to a previous crack inspired post
1- Satan is not a European concept

2- Elenini is not the wife of Ela ( such a statement is so utterly repulsive to me)

3- The use and meaning of the word Elenini in Yoruba is equivalent to the use and meaning of the word Satan in Hebrew.

sonmvayina:


You seem to be here and there... What's your point?

PastorAIO:


Who is Elenini in Yoruba religion?

Lest anyone be confused by a confused sower of confusion, Ela is the complement of Esu as depicted on the opon ifa.

As Esu coalesces Ela opens up.

Elenini in Yoruba is an antagonist. There are every day human antagonists and then there is a particular spiritual entity called elenini.

Similarly in ancient Hebrew concepts (Not European) An antagonist is called Satan. This can include humans or even Yahweh himself (with angelic proxy perhaps). Then there is a specific spiritual entity called ha-Satan.

Satan is NOT a European concept. Only an ignorant person will tell you so. The Hebrews hail from the Middle East.

Amujale:


Right back at you.

Are you on crack?

Oh my god! I do mistake. I fed the troll.

Amujale:


Ela's wife

Are you on crack?

Amujale:
Satan vs God?

Who is God?

The African divine principles are God.

You and I could grow in spirituality or does something so revolutionary that we can become a god.

Foreigners came to Africa, found out about our divine principles and called them God.

Not to be conflated with the Almighty God


Satan is a Eurocentric concept.

As in, there's no Satan in African ideology.

What does that tell us?

That tells us that we are connected to God by the hip, whilst our enemies are connected to Satan. Fact.

Who is Elenini in Yoruba religion?

Kobojunkie:

Who knows?

Hence the speculation...

FactBoyz:
God can still take you far!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heojMyteHEA

. Boris Johnson na real joker. I just the laugh at his face when Adeboye de pray for am.

So who succeeded Boris, a man of God? I nor know say Sadiq Khan na christian before.

Kobojunkie:

You then supposed they are Satan's recruits? Satan is known to USE man(his pride, arrogance etc.) to accomplish His work but I doubt he has men in his army. LOL

I meant that christianity formed a team on one side while God and Satan formed another team on the other side.

Budah, you don give them name oo!! The 'Lord lord' people. The Lordlordians. The Lordlordites.

budaatum:

God has nothing to do with this neither, is precisely the point.

If we humans had done that which is Godly, as in, right and proper, this virus would not have killed so many or even none at all, and when this is over we will see the "godly nations", as in, those who did the right and proper things, have fewer deaths per 1000 than those who didn't, and amazingly, the [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A21-23&version=KJV]Lord Lord[/url] nations will be at the bottom of the list.

this is interesting and you ought to open up another thread to treat this matter specially.

Do you have any thoughts on why Churches and Pastors are so demonstrably ineffectual in the face of this Corona Virus? Especially after they've made strong claims to having dominion over sickness etc etc etc...

Perhaps those Pastors are not really representing the Creators as they claim. Maybe it's Christianity vs Creator and his Satan lieutenant. Would you agree with that>?

Kobojunkie:

I am not absolving Satan at all. I simply stated that in the old testament, Satan was revealed along with the Sons of God. In the book of Zechariah, we have an example where even an Angel did not rebuke Satan directly.

In his letter to the churches, Jude warned Christians from disrespecting heavenly beings such as Satan reminding them that even the angels would not directly rebuke Satan.


That said, probably best to lay blame where the blame lies.


God did say the heart of man is extremely wicked. He ain't pinning man's sins on Satan. So why do we?


This virus was likely a result of man's carelessness. The dead are dead because God appointed for them to die during this time. Whatever sins they committed, well their own. I don't see what Satan has to do with any of this.

Kobojunkie:

If you believe God is the ultimate creator of the Coronavirus, and His Satan is His Servant who does His bidding, why are you putting this on Satan?

Kobojunkie:

It is not unfounded. It is right there in the book that is your bible. Look it up!

Maybe ‘o felix culpa’ was at play.

Think! Without Sin there’d Be No Grace b no grace be no grace no grace no g race

You seem keen to absolve Satan of any wrong doing. No wahala. I’ll throw you that bone

Kobojunkie:

If you believe God is the ultimate creator of the Coronavirus, and His Satan is His Servant who does His bidding, why are you putting this on Satan?

You should go for olympics triple jump.

The way you hop skip and jump from an unfounded premise to an oxymoron to land in some nowhere land is very impressive.

Isn’t god the ultimate creator of everything?

Kobojunkie:

Satan, in the Old testament, is a servant of God according to the Bible. So if Satan created this Covid-19, are you suggesting that God had a hand in it? Are you willing to accept that as what you have declared here?

I am saying that the Quran has verses in it that were removed for being Satanic. Check out Surat An-Najm

HammedOlanaija:

So are you saying the old testament is satanic version
Lmao

Between? So it wasn’t a metaphor. And her words didn’t take on mass. But something else and it can be found using mathematics. Religious delusion has destroyed your intelligence...

DASKACE:


The answer to your question is between those two assumptions up there. You just do the maths yourself, thank you.

I don’t know why you’d post all this to me after the number of times that I’ve demonstrated to you the reasons why JW is a false and dangerous cult. Furthermore your history of Christianity is false and I’ve demonstrated that numerous times before. If we really have to go through it again I can bring up links to those threads.

Maximus69:


Of course it is!

But this has nothing to do with magicians deceiving people with magical tricks for moneymaking. God's time to oust Satan and cage him for 1,000 years is about to begin so Satan is doing all he can to distrupt the peaceful preaching and teaching program God's people (Jehovah's Witnesses) have been doing for the past 100 years.

Since the death of the last Apostle (John) Satan waged war against the Christian congregation and they were subdued into accepting Satan's proposal to bring in false teachings and doctrines, any person who stands for the teachings of the first century Christians was persecution as an enemy of the church so true Christianity went into bondage.
It was in the late 1870s after America declared FREEDOM of speech, expression and worship that a group of Bible students decided to find out for a Certainty if the Bible is truly the word of God or just a common book.
They discovered so many false teachings and doctrines infused into the Christian faith, so they continued digging until God's holy spirit began navigating them to where the truth could be found. But all these doesn't mean anything, there should be a sign to show that they have God's backing in what they're doing!
So God revealed to them a sacred secret that's hidden since the time of Daniel the prophet! Daniel 12:8-13
They studied this prophecy and compared it with other scriptures until they found out that something is about to happen in the year 1914, though they did not get the clear picture so they announced to the whole world that the world will end that year.
The world never ended then but something surely happened "World War 1", so the Bible students went back to their Bibles to find out if they had made a mistake in the announcement, then they discovered that it wasn't the end of the world but Satan had been driven out of heaven and the endtime had begun that year! Revelations 12:7-12 compare to Matthew 24:3-14

DASKACE:


I don't know whose side of the divide you are on but for me, not quite long, I had a heated exchange with a dreaded satanist in my village. All her nay saying towards me fell to the ground. We have seen and tasted of the power of the most high God hence, we make boast of it.

Do you mean metaphorically ‘fell to the ground’? Or her words suddenly became subject to gravity took on mass and fell to the ground?

Stephenmoka4:
Satan didn't create Covid-19, there had been pandemic in the past, this is just another one.

And he didn’t create the ones in the past too.

HammedOlanaija:

Lol I laugh in Spanish....bring me any Arabic Quran(don't bring english one ooo nah only the Arabic one be the original and even their translators to English know it)
I see you are also a pastor Lol
Fine let's do this: pls bring me a chapter of the holy quran that has an additional or subtraction in their verses.
I think that should be task one for you.(Stop arguing blindly)
Task 2
Bring me any two qurans that has different letters(Arabic letters)
And bro let's cut the story short,I will give you chapters in bibles wey omit words,verse and one doesn't say what the other is saying.
Do you even know say porn dey inside bible.....Lmao(that is a story for another day....Go ask your elders <assignment for you two>

So are the Satanic Verses addition or subtraction?

DASKACE:


Satan is no match for God Almighty and even Satan himself knows this for a fact. The power Satan uses today was given to him by God before his fall. At the fullness of time, that power will be taken from him by God as he will be condemned eternally.

Can you demonstrate anything you’ve said here?

solite3:
Right bro, Jesus and paul have one Spirit just like we the believers

What about James vs Paul? Is the letter of James not a polemic against the teachings of Paul?

Give her points for creativity na.

CAPSLOCKED:


LOL, YOU HOPE WHAT IS CLEAR?

YOU PEOPLE ARE AMAZING.

Go to Oju Ęlęgba, you’ll meet him