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MadamExcellency:
Lairs. As far as demons are involved. Blood is essential for sacrifice. Human blood is no exception to Satan and his worshippers.

PastorAIO:
He who has ears to hear let him hear:

In the Levantine there is a category of creature known as djinn. They are formed from ‘smokeless fire’. Iblis , according to Islam, was such a djinn. He disobeyed allah and was cast out of heaven and became the king of the Satans.

Now if you go to the root of this whole calamity that has befallen us in this world what do we find.

We find it started with a discovery by Moses. Moses was in the wilderness when he saw a bush burning but was not getting consumed. In other words the bush was not being turned to smoke by the fire. The phenomenon he saw was SMOKELESS FIRE. He saw a djinn and he spoke to the djinn and the djinn spoke to him. That is where these religions started.

This has go to be the greatest deception in the whole of history.

jamesid29:
Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

jamesid29:
Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

jamesid29:
Hmmm,you seem to be really angry at the God of the bible...

Steep:
In the Hebrew world view, when God allow something to happen then it is said that such is from God because he allowed it, I think you should take classes on Hebrew linguistic and system, your ignorance is obnoxious.

budaatum:
Or when the source of truth is distorted so the truth in the source is not seen then they [are] convince[d] their belief is the truth.

It is of course due to a non-acceptance of 'Christ' in their lifes or their eyes will open and they will see.

DeepSight:
Kai! Serious stuff there.
Is this related to your perception of the identity of Yahweh as you hinted in another thread/ the matter of human sacrifice.

DeepSight:
Now this is quite a revelation. Vehicle for satanism. Do you mean in the sense that people employ it for satanic ends or in the sense that it is itself an authentically and original satanic movement in the world.

DeepSight:
Now that over a decade of the waters of time have run under the bridge, PastorAIO can you share with us how and where your worldview has evolved, especially with regard to spiritual/ existential matters - viz: the meaning of life.

PastorAIO:
Exodus 3
2And the angel of the LORD appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush. He looked, and behold, the bush was burning, yet it was not consumed. 3And Moses said, “I will turn aside to see this great sight, why the bush is not burned.” 4When the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the bush, “Moses, Moses!” And he said, “Here I am.”

Who was Moses talking to, whose voice came out of the bush?

Was it Yhwh?

Was it the Angel of Yhwh?

Was it the Elohim? (ie the pantheon).

LordReed:
How can someone be deceived by the truth?

jinni, plural jinn, also called genie, Arabic jinnī, in Arabic mythology, a supernatural spirit below the level of angels and devils. Ghūl (treacherous spirits of changing shape), ʿifrīt (diabolic, evil spirits), and siʿlā (treacherous spirits of invariable form) constitute classes of jinn. Jinn are beings of flame or air who are capable of assuming human or animal form and are said to dwell in all conceivable inanimate objects—stones, trees, ruins—underneath the earth, in the air, and in fire. They possess the bodily needs of human beings and can even be killed, but they are free from all physical restraints. Jinn delight in punishing humans for any harm done them, intentionally or unintentionally, and are said to be responsible for many diseases and all kinds of accidents; however, those human beings knowing the proper magical procedure can exploit the jinn to their advantage.

Samūm (Arabic: سموم also spelled Simoom or Semum; from the root س م م s-m-m, سم "to poison" is a fire related to demons in Ancient Arabic lore and later Islamic beliefs. As a kind of fire, it is also the origin of some kinds of evil spirits and further identified with both the fires of hell and the fire of the sun. The Samum probably originated from Jewish lore as an anthropomorphization of poisonous wind, which was probably also the origin of the concept of Samael and his lesser devils.[1] Islam further develops the relation between the fires of Samum and Satan by asserting, that he or at least his minor devils, are created from the fires of Samum.[2]

LordReed:
To plumb the depths of this statement will require deep earth mining equipment and mining engineers. LoL.

Steep:
Ezekiel 20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

Where did God mention human sacrifice?

you just demonstrated your stupidity, you think there was only one Jeroboam in the bible.

1 Kings 12:31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.

The altar Josiah offered those priest on were altar that Jeroboam hath built.

Kobojunkie:
I don't require an explanation....I don't really care to read an epistle on this. A simple "yes" or "no" is all that is necessary. Either your understanding is the Satan character works for the God character, or not.

Steep:
The more you know about the world the more you know there is God.
There are many verses in the bible that made it clear that God created the heavens and the earth himself and alone.

Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:

Isaiah 45:12 I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

Isaiah 51:13 And forgettest the LORD thy maker, that hath stretched forth the heavens, and laid the foundations of the earth; and hast feared continually every day because of the fury of the oppressor, as if he were ready to destroy? and where is the fury of the oppressor?

Job 9:8 Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

Isaiah 44:24 Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

All these and many more shows that the creation was yahweh's work which He did by himself and alone.

budaatum:
You ignore both the human ability to commit vile acts of their own freewill, and the human ability to create. Paul was an adept creator. His letters about the Christ he only met in Spirit are the core of the Gospel according to Luke. But I respect your believing, though I always prefer understandings, which believe gets in the way of.

I study religions and their adherents, Pastor. And because of my greed, I sell what I have for the good fields in them all on which I harvest the crop which I store where moths can't get at it.

Kobojunkie:
Are these also contradictions according to you or what?,

Steep:
yes there was a power struggle between the priest ordained by yahweh and those others that were not.
@ bolded where was it written that Josaih offered those priest to yahweh.


yea my bad, before the house of God was buil, the high places were used for sacrifice, because the house of God was not yet built.

These you quoted were before the house of God was built.

1 Kings 12:31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.

The altar Josiah offered those priest on were altar that Jeroboam hath built.

. Jeroboam set up his own religious worship, with his own priest which were not the levites, only the levites were chosen to be priests but he chose the lowlives, the word lowliest of men means criminals or murders to be his priest.
It was these murders that Josiah killed on the altar, and because the word 'offer' or 'sacrifice'
Because any killing down on an altar is called sacrifice, it doesn't mean it is really a sacrifice but because the execution was done on it.

Steep:
In the Hebrew world view, when God allow something to happen then it is said that such is from God because he allowed it, I think you should take classes on Hebrew linguistic and system, your ignorance is obnoxious.

DeepSight:
If I may interject, doesn't the story of Job directly suggest this?

Kobojunkie:
I don't require an explanation....I don't really care to read an epistle on this. A simple "yes" or "no" is all that is necessary. Either your understanding is the Satan character works for the God character, or not.

Kobojunkie:

You posted two verses claiming them contradictions and all I have done was ask a simple question in order to learn your understanding as far the Satan character mentioned in one of those verses is all. It doesn't matter what you believe as your understanding is what matters to this here discuss.

DeepSight:
I know several people whose lips are stranded in that peculiar position in real life though.

Kobojunkie:
What does it matter if it is?

Steep:
Ezekiel 20:5 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day when I chose Israel, and lifted up mine hand unto the seed of the house of Jacob, and made myself known unto them in the land of Egypt, when I lifted up mine hand unto them, saying, I am the LORD your God;

20:7 Then said I unto them, Cast ye away every man the abominations of his eyes, and defile not yourselves with the idols of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.

20:8 But they rebelled against me, and would not hearken unto me: they did not every man cast away the abominations of their eyes, neither did they forsake the idols of Egypt: then I said, I will pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger against them in the midst of the land of Egypt.

20:11 And I gave them my statutes, and shewed them my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them.

20:13 But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes, and they despised my judgments, which if a man do, he shall even live in them; and my sabbaths they greatly polluted: then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness, to consume them.

20:24 Because they had not executed my judgments, but had despised my statutes, and had polluted my sabbaths, and their eyes were after their fathers' idols.

20:25 Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live;

Those laws that were nor good were not yahweh's laws for the rejected yahweh's laws therefor he gave them laws that were not good.
In the bible especially the old testament anything that happens is always regarded from God whether good or evil, that is because God is the final authority.

The authority for anything to happen is from yahweh.
The reason yahweh allows Israel to fall into such evil laws is because they rejected the good laws that belong to yahweh.

Kobojunkie:

Kobojunkie:
Again, the question ....So, Satan works for God, right?

This is simply meant to know your understanding as far as the stories of Satan found in the book.

Broveens42:
But what of the other clause that completes the sentence? "Livestock"
Livestock can't belong to God in the context of dedication to service, they are not image and likeness of god according to your good book.

So the clauses being put in a sentence can only mean burnt offering.
It's a complete sentence and not two sentences.

Clause1. Are there evidences where god in good book instructed a man to sacrifice his son ? Yes

Clause 2: are there evidences where god instructed livestock to worship him in the temple or render some kind of services? No

Clause 1 plus clause 2 only means burnt offering.

Kobojunkie:
Wasn't the question mark visible ?

Kobojunkie:
So, Satan works for God, right?