solid3:
So what's the Yoruba name for Yahweh?

Babinski:


Olorun means "Lord or Master of the Heavens".
Eledumare means "The Lord of the Creation and the Universe and all that is in it."
Oluwa means "Our Lord"
All the three can be simply translated as God in the English Language from Yoruba. They are not names but titles, since God itself is not a name but a title, just like King is also a title.
When Yoruba Christians sing and praise Olorun, they are praising God. They are praising God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. They are praising Yahweh.

Yahweh is the name of God the Father in Hebrew. His name is not even pronounced by Jews out of reverence. So you it is not easy to see any song of praise by Jews with Yahweh's name being directly called due to the high revrence for the name.

Your conclusion is wrong because it is based on faulty foundations and erroneous premises. Most religions only have titles for the Supreme God and not direct names. Allah for example is not the name of the Muslim God but rather a title that translates to God in English. And it is understandable because it is difficult for you to ascribe a direct name to someone who is far removed from you like the Supreme God and with whom you have no direct interaction.

Jews historically have a level of direct interaction and affinity with their Supreme God in Judaism in a way that is absent in most religions particularly traditional religions in Africa. So drawing parallels is very difficult.

lawani:


Yes I wanted to say that because if you offer sacrifice to a specific Ogun, then you are worshipping or propitiating the head of that individual. The worship of any Orisa is the worship of Ori since that is a person that existed. It is the Oris that become exceptional that emerge as orisa or prominent Egungun. All ancestors are Egungun and the Egungun institution is to communicate with the ancestors.

lawani:


Egungun is ancestor worship which existed in Yoruba land thousands of years before the birth of Alaafin Sango but he may have added some innovations to it though but the same name is what they call it among the Igbowho may have disconnected from the Yoruba for up to five thousand years if not more.

FOLYKAZE:


Yoruba religion system is a home abode for every form of theism including atheism. The only form that breaks away or fail to fall into Yoruba religion system is monotheism because many other Gods are present.

One Ori is a deity. This deity is personal to oneself and does not need other people to gather and worship on your behalf. Orisha are been worshipped unlike Ori by more than one person. Orisha is worshipped among family, society, group and village. This cannot be the case of Ori.

However, the fact you should note here is that there is more than one deity pesent in Yoruba religion system. Deities here are infinite. This is mega-polytheism just like hinduism.

Every individual are knoted to Ori and at least one Orisha. The fact that most people dont worship their orisha doesnt mean they should ne written off.

Irunmole is a Deity. Irunmole mean Irun-Imole. Irun is irinwo which is 400 while Imale are primodial spirits. They are what you call Orisha today. The english word for Orisha is god/deity. This shows that there are more than one god been worship which makes Yoruba religion system a polytheism

NNTR:
Smh.
Where in Ezekiel 20:25-26 or elsewhere, in the bible, were the Israelites explicitly asked to give up their firstborns as burning offerings

Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.

NNTR:
You read back to the earlier contributions on this thread.

Start reading from the first page to see early bird contributions done before your JJC DOA contributions

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Image123:

You do know Ahab i believe. He is not related to AIO in anyway and i don't know how Ahab is AIO's people. It's a joke that Ahab of all people is referred to as open hearted and honest.
Of course, you do know that Ahab put God's prop

PastorAIO:


Actually it is not well. Not for anyone deceived by Yhwh. It is a dangerous game to play with an entity that is given to mendacity and lying. I see my people going to yhwh with an open heart, making honest enquiries of yhwh, and being led to their destruction thereby.
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NNTR:

Paste here where 'first. born of. all the Israelites' were requested surrender up for human sacrifice

Image123:


"To give truth to him who loves it not is to only give him more multiplied reasons for misinterpretation."
Check what awaits you in eternity and don't be so worried for me.

Image123:


i got banned by the bot a couple of times replying your lies so i just stopped as i very well know you're not interested in the truth. Did you know that hell fire awaits you for eternity? Of course you do, but you are fantasized with my captivity instead.

PastorAIO:


Of course you can’t help but lie. Where did I ever mention judgment and captivity?

MaxInDHouse:


Why are you laying undue emphasis on this ten commandments?

Guy, God has about 600 laws for the nation of Israel but because Moses asked Him questions regarding these laws which no nation has anything familiar that's why God wrote the first 10 on stone tablets. All the laws are equally commandments and important since they are laws from the same person: GOD!

PastorAIO:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc0fl6Sw8Sg


Why do these nasty Christian folks like to lie lie like this? Unless they are following their Father of Lies.

Why do you think Jewish people do not respect your nonsense, always falsely quoting Jewish scriptures to further your nefarious agenda. As the old highlife song goes, 'If wayo man die, na wayo man go bury am."

Psalms 40:6

6 In sacrifice and offering you have not delighted,

but you have given me an open ear.
Burnt offering and sin offering
you have not required.


Hebrews10

“Sacrifices and offerings you have not desired,

but a body have you prepared for me;

6 in burnt offerings and sin offerings
you have taken no pleasure.

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More of reaping and sowing IMHO. If you want to so broadly classify it, it's okay then. God's requirements from man remain unchanging. He demands righteousness, truth and honesty and He will punish every disobedient one.

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Two things here.

Act_17:30  And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
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He died for his carelessness and busy-body, not in the judgement and captivity that you are trying to mislead people about.

Image123:


As usual, you do not carry out due diligence. Where in the text was Josiah deceived except that you are trying to deceive the gullible who would not check up and read in context.

Kobojunkie:
Hypnagogic hallucination is symptom of possible mental or neurological problems. Telling someone who is sick that there is nothing wrong is deceit.

LordReed:


Jesus?

PastorAIO:


John7
6Jesus said to them, “My time has not yet come, but your time is always here. 7The world cannot hate you, but it hates me because I testify about it that its works are evil. 8You go up to the feast. I am not going up to this feast, for my time has not yet fully come.” 9After saying this, he remained in Galilee.

10But after his brothers had gone up to the feast, then he also went up , not publicly but in private.

Are telling untruths righteous now? I suppose so.

LordReed:


Really? So why didn't he punish Abraham, Isaac or Jacob when they lied?

ogyunging:
Wawu

Yhwh says to Josiah:

Thus says the LORD, the God of Israel: Regarding the words that you have heard, 19because your heart was penitent, and you humbled yourself before the LORD, when you heard how I spoke against this place and against its inhabitants, that they should become a desolation and a curse, and you have torn your clothes and wept before me, I also have heard you, declares the LORD. 20Therefore, behold, I will gather you to your fathers, and you shall be gathered to your grave in peace, and your eyes shall not see all the disaster that I will bring upon this place.’”

1Kings 23

Josiah’s Death in Battle

28Now the rest of the acts of Josiah and all that he did, are they not written in the Book of the Chronicles of the Kings of Judah? 29In his days Pharaoh Neco king of Egypt went up to the king of Assyria to the river Euphrates. King Josiah went to meet him, and Pharaoh Neco killed him at Megiddo, as soon as he saw him. 30And his servants carried him dead in a chariot from Megiddo and brought him to Jerusalem and buried him in his own tomb.

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Already answered it. Because the people want to be deceived. If you want to be deceived, you will be deceived.

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AIO lied so many times in that post that i lost count, yet you seemingly took it hook, link and sinker.
He says God is given to mendacity and lying, yet can only point out an event. One would think that he'd have at least three or more for his efforts.

mazaje:


More of Yahweh's acts of deceit as recorded in the bible. . . .

  JER 4:10 - Then I said, "Ah, Sovereign LORD, how completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, 'You will have peace,' when the sword is at our throats."

JER 20:7 - O LORD, you deceived me, and I was deceived you overpowered me and prevailed. I am ridiculed all day long; everyone mocks me.

Its very clear that Yahweh has a penchant for sending lying spirits to people or deceiving people himself as recorded in the bible(Isaiah 37:7 and 2 Kings 19:7). The problem is if you read down in the book of Jeremiah you will see that Yahweh even acknowledge that he does evil and he apologized for the evil he did. . .

By the way what is it with Yahweh enticing people to send prophecies and then killing them at the same time. . .

EZ 14:9 - "'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel.

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Where did God use deception? i said that understanding God and His Word will help to have a balanced and clearer view of God. Who told you that lying is not good but the same God.

Like I said, Ebo is often translated as sacrifice in English too, but when we look at all the contexts in which the word pops up we realise that a closer translation would just be A Nourishment, a feeding. As one can feed Ogun shrine so one can also feed a child. It would be odd to say in English that you've just given your Child a sacrifice when all you did was give him fried plantains.

jamesid29:


You're making the point we've all been trying to make to you sir. Almost every regular speaker of the Yoruba language, associates Ebo with the meaning [b]Ritual offering. I even did a google search of it and everywhere I looked(even in sites and papers focused on yoruba tradition or spirituality), I didn't see any where ebo meant anything other than ritual sacrifice. You're actually the first person I'm hearing a different meaning from. I am not disputing you're interpretation of ebo because[/b]
a) Critical Resources on yoruba spirituality and traditions are not easily accessible, so just because I couldn't find one anywhere that matches what you said after a couple searches doesn't automatically mean I should discard it
b) I do not know enough about the Yoruba conception of certain things in other to authoritatively negate your argument.

Now let's assume you are correct: Imagine you are faced with a text that say, Iya re fun l'ebo