Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 4:07pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Dangote is a perfect example .He came from a trading family and there is no other way to describe his development other than APPRNTICESHIP. He has now evolved from trading to manufacturing.What is noteworthy is he has been backed by family and it has taken more than one family generation to arrive where he is.No doubt he has benefited from political patronage but there are many others who had similar access before him Dangote has adopted corporate practices and employs talent from everywhere. Trying to restrict recruitment to kinsmen and unnecessary rivalry and jealousy is a bane of many Ibo traders. In Nigeria we think we know business but we are still learners. Ultimately business is about size and traders will always be sardines in a world of sharks. What is it that Shoprite is doing that Nigerians cannot do? look you are writing rubbish! dangote was supported by govt, obj and some leaders laundered money into that company! You are making up story that will create disaffection! you have no prove of what you are saying! if igbos restrict the people why would my father's first boy come from Abia state while I'm from anambra? why is it that markets dominated by igbos are very coordinated, little or no rancour, no juju etc you hardly know the real owner of a shop! your people are into buying and selling too, but can they pamper customer like the way we igbo do! |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 4:01pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: To tell us how great Ibos are The greatest problem of the Ibo is inferiority complex and everything they do on the outside is to compensate for what is going on on the inside. The greatest selling product in Nigeria today is cows. Those who move cows all over the country are too busy to come online and tell us how rugged they are sleeping under the sky in different place all year round.
Everyone is tough in their own way but the Ibo man needs to affirm himself publicly all the time rubbish! before ndigbo took over trading was done by yorubas in lagos, infact go to Odua market where they restricted igbos from owning a shop, yorubas are there looking at each other, when government of when the local government built Ile epo market along Iyana ipaja, they placed order that igbos are not welcomed, but for years, they had to reverse the decision because nobody came! now igbos have taken over the shop!! it's on record that igbos have more number of sms than any tribe, you can deny it but it's true! we may not have any big company like dangote, but numerous indigenous companies owned by igbos exceed your tribesmen own! so go to hell with your storytelling! |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 3:56pm On Dec 09, 2015*. Modified: 4:37pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Macelliot: They were influenced by the Yorubas..
Believe me, I grew up in the West, but since I relocated back to the East, my Eyes don clear... My determination and self-willed to make it tripled... You are right! most of them try to behave like yorubas, they live onn twitter and other social media, dance from one party to another, they look for jobs from one company to another, but if you grow among igbos, your reasoning will not be like that, I remember one guy, izu that lived in our area, everything he does is yorubatic, he is working from one company to another th, while his junior brother that lived in the east is now a very rich boy, living in lagos as well, izu lived within yoruba dominated bariga, the spirit of hardworking left him and "office" work creeped into him, and rendered him lazy. You are correct!! |
Politics › Re: Mods Should Be Banned For Their Tribalistic Nature! by patrick89(op): 11:16am On Dec 09, 2015 |
meanwhile I'm waiting for your ban as usual.. |
Politics › Mods Should Be Banned For Their Tribalistic Nature! by patrick89(op): 11:13am On Dec 09, 2015 |
I was very upset yesterday the way the mods quickly pushed unsubstantiated claims by one writer calling for the Bloody bakassi boys back, I warned the mod to pull that off frontpage for the claim is still a rumour that it lack source, or take it to crime section, but they insisted, I said that the writer might not even be igbo, that if you continue like this, igbos as fast learners will start doing same, we igbos are quick learners and when we learn we over do it.. they didn't listen, ok I woke up this cold morning, saw beautiful piece by Azuka Onwuka, on how Igbo apprenticeship has helped to alleviate people from poverty, and saved many people from war trauma , it helped us to recover very fast as if nothing really happened.. But the Mod didn't see the post worthy to be on frontpage, they shoved it down and dump it to culture section, this is because the content didn't insult or denigrate the great people of igbos,, I have decided to vent my anger over this, for you can't continue to push people around and expect them to seat and watch! you want people to see igbos as everything bad, it will fail as usual! here is the page below www.nairaland.com/2790354/igbo-culture-apprenticeship#40834429 |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 10:52am On Dec 09, 2015 |
hopeforcharles: This is one of secret of the great igbo 's success no ethnic group has the structure to make this happen!! iits not a secret thing!! so mods have ignored this thread because it's not bashing igbo people!!! cc lalasticlala ishilove Afam4eva come and push this to frontpage.. |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 10:49am On Dec 09, 2015 |
joseph1832: And you think I have your time. I point it here that your mind is lobotomize and heavily laden with tribalism and ethnic bigotry.  all these type of mindset is irritating!! countries are not built on charity and gospel! they are built on selfish patriotism and ofcourse good will from the people!! your sick head can not comprehend this, if my selfish love and passion for my people is tribalism to you, yes I'm more than tribalism!! now kick bucket!!! I'm a tribalist oooh!! I don't want any other tribe to be better than my tribe igbo! yes!! same way white supremacist and nazis did!!! |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 10:42am On Dec 09, 2015 |
kennethchidi: Tah,shatap! Are u in their minds to know if they buy d idea or against it? I think u need to watch the responses of eminent igbo people in US during the igbo conference to nnamdi kanu on his request for arms and ammunition,den u will know d wise igbos are not supportive of ds coz we r not really ready to stand alone,but just some few political folks trying to use ds a means to subject innocent ndigbo to more suffering. A better tn to agitate about to d fg is how to make igbos feel more a part of this country nd also implementing the resolves in the last confab atleast,and not tryna instigate another civil war! Nwata etoruhi etoru,were n'acho ihe gburu nnaya,ihe gburu nnaya egbuo ya! I rest my case! That you're writing in igbo doesn't make you igbo!!! I was in a bus to enugu, an awusa man in the bus was speaking igbo like a village igbo man! I was shocked. look I stated conquered people. if you know what conquered mean you will understand perfectly.. |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 10:34am On Dec 09, 2015 |
babyfaceafrica: you don't have proof for this your assertion...even in 1967 some igbos fought on the sid of Nigeria.....are they conquerd minds?...stop generalizing yes, my grandmother told me that during civil war, some people didn't even know the road to their house!!! |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 10:32am On Dec 09, 2015 |
Ezemust: that's why fayose send some ekiti youth to the east to learn that culture it's not going to be possible, they have different cultural background, imagine if a yoruba man brings someone from village that may not even have a father, the guy will be treated like a rag, call him names, if you try that to your fellow igbo man from same town, you will hear from umunna! so it will not work in yoruba land.. Did you know that you are not suppose to maltreat your booyi? if you do, the repercussions might be much, but yoruba can course you and abuse as your master and get away with it.. imagine igbo master tells his igbo servant that "your miserable father and mother that brought you to this world should take care of you" if you make a mistake? if the servant reports him to umunna, he will hear am!! |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 10:23am On Dec 09, 2015 |
joseph1832: Kindly provide evidence to assert your claim. Thank you. I no get your time! I pointed out "conquered " mind, to make it clear to you!! |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 10:19am On Dec 09, 2015 |
NAIJASOM: May God continue to bless my uncle. He has trained over 50 sussessful business men in auto parts biz since 1992. my brother the thing is such a very wonderful and emotional story, my uncle from maternal side, told me after the war, he went to onitsha with nothing, he only followed a very popular rich man in our village when he was still 12, the man then was into Beans and rice, the market was dominated by hausas then, later, igbos took over the market, my uncle then went to lagos at the age of 18 started small business around apapa port, where he sells on ordinary table along the street, he then, made, more money and started selling plumbing material, he brought forth many young boys from our village, about 4 of them,one of the those boys is now now a house hold name, he trains my uncle's children in school at all levels, my uncle is doing virtually nothing now, but the things those boys he trained bring to him make him appear like a king, . They bought cars for him and his wife, his new home in lagos and village, they bring cows to him almost every year.. it's such a wonderful thing, though the thing is becoming very unpopular as everyone wants to go to school, it will be difficult to get someone that will be interested in that booyi again.. |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 10:09am On Dec 09, 2015 |
babyfaceafrica: its nt news..everybody knows this it's very bad of them then..  babyfaceafrica: its nt news..everybody knows this it's very bad of them then.. |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 10:02am On Dec 09, 2015 |
babyfaceafrica: Lolz....nice but cannot make frontpage...try harder!!! why? because it's not against ndigbo abi? it doesn't rubbish igbo people? |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 9:48am On Dec 09, 2015 |
where are the people that say igbos hate themselves cc abagworo, beremx,NgeneUkwenu and other conquered igbos come and dispute this fact! |
Culture › Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 9:36am On Dec 09, 2015 |
The people that are saying igbos hate themselves, should come and read! cc lalasticlala come and movee this to frontpage! not only bad things should make frontpage.. |
Culture › The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(op): 9:33am On Dec 09, 2015 |
By : Mr. Azuka Onwuka
I was in a bank last week and noticed that the person before me in the queue was a boy of about 12 years old. As he completed his transaction and left, a conversation started between the teller and me. As our chat progressed, the bank teller said that in spite of the boy’s size, he came to deposit N150,000. He exclaimed: “Igbo boys!”
He laughed and told him that soon the boy would be depositing one million naira or more. Some 15 years ago, when online/real-time banking was unavailable, these Igbo boys moved such huge amount of cash from Nnewi/Onitsha/Aba to Lagos/Kano/Port Harourt and vice versa, via buses, with all the attendant risk of armed robbery and road accidents.
One wonders why a 12-year-old boy should be trusted to go to a bank and deposit N150,000. What if he loses it? What if it is taken from him? What if he corners it and claims that it was stolen on his way? But that is part of the training of an Igbo apprentice. Before he could be trusted to handle N150,000, he might have been tried with N20,000. As he stepped out of the shop with the N150,000, the master might have sent a more senior apprentice to shadow him secretly to ensure that he went into the bank.
The result is that the boy of 12 years old matures financially faster than his mates even from wealthy homes. He understands how money comes in and how money goes out. He understands not just how to spend money but how to make money, how to save money and how to invest it. He understands how one can carry huge sums of money and go unnoticed. By the time he turns 18 or 20, while his age mates are still asking for pocket money, he has started giving pocket money to his siblings or parents or paying the school fees of his siblings and supporting his parents financially.
This apprenticeship is what has helped to spread wealth from the rich to the poor among the Igbo. It helped the Igbo to recover fast after the devastation of the Nigerian Civil War in which they lost virtually all their wealth and received the “ex gratia” payment of £20 irrespective of their deposits in the banks. It helped to spread the art of trading and money management among the Igbo. It helped to teach Igbo how to fish rather than give them fish. How does it work? A man starts a motor spare parts business in Nnewi, Lagos or Kano. After a year or two, he goes home and takes a boy from a poor home to be his apprentice. He chooses from a poor family because a poor family may have about eight children that the parents cannot effectively cater for. Such families are more willing to release their sons. The boy may have just finished primary 6 or junior secondary school or his secondary school education and does not have any hope of someone paying for his university education or is not academically sound enough to make good scores to gain admission into the university. The boy may also be the first son from a poor family and believes that if he continues to the university, he may not be financially dependent in time to pay the school fees of his younger ones and support his parents. So he goes early into apprenticeship as a sacrifice for the family. SEE ALSO: Nnamdi Kanu, the Biafra course and vision 2023 Depending on his age and academic qualification, the apprenticeship period will be agreed upon to last from five to seven years. While with his master, he just does not mind only business issues. He is a servant to his master. If his master is a bachelor, he enjoys his stay more. He tidies up the home, washes clothes, cooks, etc. If his master is based in a town that is semi-urban, he may join in farming early in the morning or in the evening. He may hew wood or go to the stream to fetch water. He gets to the shop first, opens it, and closes last. He goes around the market to look for prospective buyers. After the customer is done buying, he packs the goods in cartons or bags for him, and if it is a big and regular customer, he may help the customer to carry the goods or get a cart pusher to take the goods to somewhere close-by where the customer can arrange for how to transport the goods to his location. Advertisement
Part of the training is that he will be able to endure all sorts of indignities from his master, his wife, his children and his relatives. If his skin is not tough, he may give up midway and leave. But if he endures, by the time he has spent about three or four years, he becomes a senior apprentice or “manager”. Even the master and his wife will treat him with more respect at this stage. His master may have brought in another apprentice. He may have been taught how to drive, so that he can take goods or the other apprentices in the company’s bus to and from the shop. Every two years, he may be allowed to travel home for Christmas and New Year to spend about two weeks with his own family. Some people can have up to eight apprentices at the same time.
At the end of the agreed period, the man takes his apprentice home to meet his parents. He then “settles” him by giving him any amount of money that he deems fit and prays for him. What the master gives to his boy during settlement matters but is not critical. It is what is learnt during those years of apprenticeship that matters. The apprentice learns the trade and all the intricacies involved as well as self-discipline and the management of customers. He gets to know customers who may become his soon after his freedom. Most times, once he opens his own shop, customers of his master, who liked the way he took care of them, would shift to him. If he gains their trust, they may even send him cash from Kano or Accra or Yaounde with a list of the goods they want and he will send the goods to them. One or two years after becoming his own boss, he goes home to get a boy to be his apprentice, and the cycle continues.
There is a different type of apprenticeship. It is done by people whose parents have the wherewithal to give them the capital to start off. They live with their parents but go to the shop of a man to learn the trade for a period of six months or one year. At the end of that period, they start their business. But the rate of success of such people is much lower than those who spent about six years under the roof of a master.
Many of the rich men in Igbo land like Mr Innocent Chukwuma of Innoson Motors, Mr Cosmas Maduka of Coscharis Motors, Chief Chidi Anyaegbu of Chisco Motors, Chief Alex Chika Okafor of A-Z Petroleum/Chicason Group, etc, went through this apprenticeship scheme. Many of today’s rich Igbo men came from very poor families. This apprenticeship scheme gave them the foothold to rise to wealth, for their parents would have not been able to pay their school fees or give them the money required to start a business that has prospect.
The Igbo apprentice is not seen as a “servant” forever. Once he completes his apprenticeship and starts his own business, he becomes a “friend” to his former master. Anytime he visits his “Oga”, he sits down with him in his sitting room to share a drink. He may even marry his master’s daughter. If his master is doing a burial, he comes as a special guest with a cow. When he is doing his event, his master also comes as a special guest. If he becomes successful in business, his master uses him to boast and tells other apprentices to strive to emulate him. Some even later turn around to help their masters financially when they have become very rich and their master’s fortunes have dwindled.
Later in life when they have become financially successful, some decide to acquire that education they cut short earlier by getting a degree. But even those who don’t have any degree ensure that they marry women that have degrees, so as to help in the education of the children and take care of any issue that requires “long grammar.”
There may be drawbacks in this scheme like abuse of children, abandonment of education by boys, and other issues, but the Igbo apprenticeship scheme is a unique scheme that has benefited the Igbo a lot. https://www.today.ng/opinion/48881/igbo-and-culture-of-apprenticeship |
Politics › Re: Anambra light of the nation, eastern economy power house. by patrick89(m): 8:39am On Dec 09, 2015 |
AnamCity: Entertainment industry is moving towards Awka. Interestingly most of the top Nollywood actors/actresses and top singers/entertainers are all from Anambra. Anambra first!. things like this cannot get the required viewership without a TV station established in the east!! |
Politics › Re: Anambra light of the nation, eastern economy power house. by patrick89(m): 8:37am On Dec 09, 2015 |
acecarter: I am from Anambra, but I don't know whether to love or hate her, in fact I smell the latter being more true.. Who would believe that as an indigene of Anambra & also after passing & both my post UTME & jamb, unizik refused to offer me admission... Even if it's not on merit list, but on supplementary.. I mean who does this... I am in so much pain right now
I still believe God can do it **sobs** I feel your pain, I have written this same thing on previous page on the thread, I stated how angry I was when I noticed that Anambra people are being cheated because of qouta system! when I told my uncle ( a professor) he said that it has always been like that, it's not a new thing, I was so angry, that I had to vent my venom on this page.. this and many other ugly things are my reason for my support for biafra. join the train too!! |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 8:13am On Dec 09, 2015 |
joseph1832: Yes be that as it may, I still believe the idea of Biafra is just a means for some disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble. They should know not every easterners buy the idea of Biafra.
I'll even want to ask them why they didn't launch this ridiculous crusade during the past administration, how come they're launching it now? The guise of marginalization is just a ruse they want to use to stir trouble. no single igbo man is against the idea! except the conquered minds!! |
Politics › Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 8:12am On Dec 09, 2015 |
He has said it all, I have always known that the idea is very deep, the emotions that is rooted in the idea is very deep! The arrogance of the FG is making it worse, that is nonsense! I hope the people with conquered spirit are listening! |
Politics › Re: Face To Face With Nnamdi Kanu, The Man Behind Radio Biafra - Sun News by patrick89(m): 8:04am On Dec 09, 2015 |
where is lalasticlala come and push this to frontpage!! see, whenever I listen to nnamdi, I sense someone with so much love for his people, imagine someone touring from one country to another, from one continent to another, 24hours non stop! where can you find that type of person in Alaigbo? I remember the day he opined that the world igbo congress should buy laptops for the schools in Biafra land,only for one man to call and derailed the idea! the motivating factor about nnamdi kanu is his passion for his people, it overshadows every other thing, he wants the best for them, he wishes to have a very disciplined system with everything working so well, no leader from East has shown this kind of commitment! I remember he would say that no kidnapping will be experienced again in the east, I remember he would boast that the Aba will be cleaned up. I remember he would say that SE would be built with world class infrastructure!! the passion and will that ooze from him is extraordinary! So despite his extreme comments, he believes that it will make people change instead of complain of being "insulted".. That guy understands the problem of black people very well, that if you allow him to fix it, things will fall in place.... let the children of hate with talking drum accent keep meddling. We must not be deterred! no going back! Biafra shall come by in our time... |
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Then vs Now: Why I Think The Term 'Biafra' Is Apt by patrick89(m): 6:51am On Dec 09, 2015 |
now I know that nnamdi kanu is very smart! imagine charging him of terrorism with the video where he called for arms, he would bring forth this video where he called for peace in nigeria in 2012, the court will just throw the case into bin, because he would claim that he is calling for arm to defend his people against the bokoharam, because the current government isn't doing anything about it..... lol Nigerians are zoo actually |
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Then vs Now: Why I Think The Term 'Biafra' Is Apt by patrick89(m): 6:51am On Dec 09, 2015 |
now I know that nnamdi kanu is very smart! imagine charging him of terrorism with the video where he called for arms, he would bring forth this video where he called for peace in nigeria in 2012, the court will just throw the case into bin, because he would claim that he is calling for arm to defend his people against the bokoharam, because the current government isn't doing anything about it..... |
Politics › Re: Muslims Should Speak Up by patrick89(m): 9:57pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
if your religion is a threat to humanity, I will clamp you! |
Crime › Re: We Need Bakassi Boys Again In The East by patrick89(m): 9:34pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
who ever that moved this rubbish to frontpage should remove it immediately!! don't start what you can not finish!! |
Crime › Re: We Need Bakassi Boys Again In The East by patrick89(m): 9:23pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
eleko1: Nah like dis BiAfra contri go be  this is exactly what the Op planned to achieve, to paint a gory picture, they have been doing this thing since, they make east to appear as a crime den, a no go area!! Did any of you remember how SW became known as ritual capital? did u know that, people are no longer allowed to report something like this, people are missing in SW on a daily bases, no thanks to rituals, Did you know for the past 6 years, anambra has not experienced Bank robbery? you will not believe it but the picture will be scary that you will never believe that people can be in Anambra. The author of this garbage planned to achieve something and the moderators are helping!!! warning warning warning if igbos start manufacturing stories, do not cry blue murder! we are great and fast learners, and when we learn, we out do! keep writing rubbish!! mention the village the town the victim come from!! you have concluded that he was poisoned! |
Crime › Re: We Need Bakassi Boys Again In The East by patrick89(m): 9:23pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
eleko1: Nah like dis BiAfra contri go be  this is exactly what the Op planned to achieve, to paint a gory picture, they have been doing this thing since, they make east to appear as a crime den, a no go area!! Did any of you remember how SW became known as ritual capital? did u know that, people are no longer allowed to report something like this, people are missing in SW on a daily bases, no thanks to rituals, Did you know for the past 6 years, anambra has not experienced Bank robbery? you will not believe it but the picture will be scary that you will never believe that people can be in Anambra. The author of this garbage planned to achieve something and the moderators are helping!!! warning warning warning if igbos start manufacturing stories, do not cry blue murder! we are great and fast learners, and when we learn, we out do! keep writing rubbish!! |
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Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Then vs Now: Why I Think The Term 'Biafra' Is Apt by patrick89(m): 8:31pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
The shameful thing about them is this, the simple question is, why are they bringing up this kind of thing? the answer is simple, to dissuade you from clamouring for biafra, that alone is enough motivating factor!! |
Politics › Re: What The Contribution Of Ibo And Bafria Land To Nigeria by patrick89(m): 8:25pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
Alikote: I have been wondering aleast the north produce yam beans millet cereal for beer milo beef tomato onion carrot irish patatos .solid mineral in small quantity .south south oil and gas plus port in calabar warri port harcourt .south west ports in lagos boders for trade in west africa and peace for factories to trive agabara in ogun .palm oil and plantain in edo .i stayed in enugu agwu camp so pls bafria tell me nothing! can you now rest? what does Islam contribute to the world? |
Politics › Re: Nnamdi Kanu Then vs Now: Why I Think The Term 'Biafra' Is Apt by patrick89(m): 8:12pm On Dec 08, 2015 |
now I know that some black people are cursed from foetus! He was for one nigeria until he discovered that it won't work any longer! he has expressed his fear for nigeria on bokoharam activities several times, infact let me enlighten you, there is a new group that is coming up from North west and nobody is talking about, it's gathering massive followership, they are planning exactly what is happening in Syria is going to be a child play when they are unleashed, bokoharam is just a ragtag misguided Buhari's brothers! To cap it all buhari is a member of sunn muslim.. NB... Nnamdi kanu advised people to boycott 2014 election, he called jonathan names, like imbecilic and a cowards, so when you see people trying to bring jonathan's defeat to the renewed clamour for biafra, just ignore them, for they don't know what they're saying!!! |