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afrodoc2:
Confirm. Casemiro and Eriksen will start.

One thing that won’t shock me is if ETH starts the same eleven that played Brighton, including GhosTominay. That match was one of his most exquisite ghosting performances. You would have noticed that almost nobody had anything good or bad to say about him in that game, unlike Rashford, Bruno, Dalot, Case, Hannibal, Onana etc. That is the hallmark of a perfect ghost.

"Hallmark of a perfect Ghost"

McTom aka The Ghost...We ghost for a living...

eph12:
Unfortunately this is the truth.

Whenever they play rubbish, that's when fans will remember that Glazers have not been coming to watch our games and that's why the players played rubbish or one useless story like that. It's irritating

You look at the quality of players we parade and you will be forgiven for thinking it is that Brighton team we are talking about and not the Manchester United team that started the game...

MRTA7:
Useless scouts told Ole to sign Sancho as the number 1 target for the right. Spent 72m to sign him and then he says he prefers playing on the left. This club.

If he prefers to play on the left, why did he sign him? Did he not have a talk with Sancho before signing him?

main24:
when are you going to give ETH his one-off season?

Is there time for that?

I just want to see all the players back and after a run of games, I'll know if we are headed in the right direction or not but still, I feel we should be playing better with the players available now.

main24:
Liverpool struggled last season, ETH did better than Klopp in terms of result last season even with everything Klopp has been building.

I am not good at stats, did Pep win any trophy in his 1st year with Man city??

We all know Liverpool were seriously plagued by injuries last season hence their poor performance but we all saw them push for a top 4 finish when their players began recovering from injuries. Their good start to the season is further proof that last season was just a one-off...

Mourinho won 3 trophies during his time here but we all knew his style of play was not going to guarantee results in the long run. I'd like to look past the Caraboa cup win last season and see if we are making progress as a team...Have we managed to close the gap between us and the likes of Arsenal, City or Liverpool? I think not.

afrodoc2:
You are right. We should be playing better. Let’s see how the season goes in terms of quality and style of football, especially when Højlund, Mount, Amrabat, Mainoo are fully integrated into the first team.

A more serious concern is our transfer activity. Someone competent needs to come in and oversee that. There is evidence from his Ajax days that if ETH is given the right tools he can coach attractive attacking football. There is no evidence that he knows how to get those tools. Someone needs to save him from himself and take that full responsibility away from him.

I agree 100%...

afrodoc2:
We can’t sign Pep because he won’t come here. Look at the clean and smart way he has planned his career. He goes to well run organisations with a very good structure in place.

We also have to remember that the good football Assanal is playing now took a couple of seasons to implement. There are serious reasons to criticise ETH but I honestly don’t think changing manager yet again will lead to any long term benefits.

Anybody who doubts the importance of a proper management structure should look at the sexy football Potter coached at Brighton and how utterly useless he looked at Chelshit.

I am not advocating for a change just yet and I agree that a proper management structure is the way forward however, with the resources at ETH's disposal, I think we should be playing much better...Let's see some improvements at least and then we can hope for the best.

main24:
Meanwhile Patrick what do you need to see to make you believe foundation is being laid??

Watch City in Pep's first season or Liverpool in Klopp's first season. One thing is common, although the personnel was not good enough still you could see what they were trying to achieve.

I do not entertain brainless kids...

main24:
The club is not cursed, if anyone is cursed, maybe it's the fans.
The fans keep asking for managers to be sacked every year, rebuild will never start.

Rebuild takes time and focus.

If we sign Pep today, will you bet that in 2 years we won't start playing a recognizable pattern?

The fear here is that we have not seen anything that suggests there's a foundation being laid...

Barcelona has undergone a rebuild but in that period they have managed to remain competitive on the domestic front and are doing everything possible to be a force in the continental stage (UCL) but we are still rebuilding forever...This club is cursed, De Gea was right...

All is fair in war...

ChristoBam:
Lmao it's not even the same thing. Degea's been average for how long? Rashford was literally one of the best in the league just months ago. And why do you even go off topic and draw up weird comparisons each time.

Degea's contract expired. And we decided to not renew and go for another highly rated goalkeeper. How's that in any way similar to Rashford being benched. Why do you draw up these random comparisons?

Tweak what? With Rashford and Garnacho out, who's playing the left wing?

At this point you're just arguing for the sake of it.

We will all be here when you start complaining...

ChristoBam:
Lmao, if Garnacho keeps playing? So this is definitely about a growing hatred for Rashford and nothing else. Cuz if anyone deserves that in the team, it's Bruno and Rashford.

And lmao @ your second paragraph.

Deserves based on what?

You did not remember all De Gea did when you supported that he should be replaced?

If your forwards are misfiring, you tweak your formation to get the best out of the rest of the team/forwards.

See Doku and Nunez but if na Man Utd them go dey ask where the players dey for market...

ChristoBam:
Why're you ignoring the fact that Rashford has been better than the same Garnacho this season?

If Garnacho keeps playing surely he will pick up...It is not even about Garnacho but you saying Rashford should keep starting because Garnacho was bad.

If Rashford and Garnacho are off form, the coach should set the team up to play without them...

eph12:
Last season Saint Maxim was supposed to be Newcastle best/most creative player. Eddie benched him for obvious reasons

Simple if a player is not doing well, bench him.

If we asked for Garnacho to be benched for playing poorly, why not Rashford? He is talking about options.

If Rashford gets injured today, will we be playing every game with 10 men?

Some arguments no just make sense.

ChristoBam:
My point is that you can't blame the manager for always starting Rashford because there's literally no strong competition for that starting spot. Simple!

We play Bayern tomorrow. You can't confidently name one player that should be starting over Rashford at the left. So what's all these long talks about?

Becuase for me any player who is doing well should start.

Again, they're looking at the player that Rashford can be and not what he is currently playing...

We have Garnacho and Martial as options.

There's a game we beat Arsenal 2 vs. 0 where Nani was jogging the ball with his head. Abeg can someone drop the lineup here let us see if the big names started.

If Garnacho was benched for playing poorly then should Rashford not be benched too? Is it only when Antony is involved that the talk of favouritism comes into play?

melodyogonna:
Isn't Rashford delivering though? In our last match he was the major output constantly putting pressure on Brighton's defence. In a normal day he would have scored two plus 1 assist. In the match before he was involved in what, 2 goals?

Also, against Brighton I remember 3 instances his passes would have led to a goal, in fact one of them did but got ruled out.

Stats killed the beautiful game. Do you watch Rashford away from goals?

If a player scores like Haaland, I wouldn't mind him just scoring alone but for a player like Rashford who is not consistent, he needs to step up other aspects of his game.

ChristoBam:
If you're not about to stay on point, why quote me then. Please go hard lol. That's my specialty. If asking if you're naive gets you triggered, you probably should avoid arguments on a faceless forum.

And booing our best players is not something we should be emulating. Btw, y'all can boo Rashford all you want whenever he plays bad. He's a senior player and will deal with it. I'll rather that than a young one like Garnacho.

Your point is that Rashford should always start regardless of his performance because the options on the bench are not as good as Rashford on his best days...

We are not talking about the player Rashford can be but his output now. If Rashford is not delivering, we should try others in that position.

raumdeuter:
AWB is seen in company of exiled Sancho

Next thing AWB is out injured for 2 months

ETH needs to check for anyone who sent messages to Sancho since the time he got exiled and send them to the doghouse too

Sancho is just an I'm serious footballer.

ChristoBam:
Godddd. How do you people even take arguments this way. A person says something, you twist it another way and run away with it.

The argument all day has been about who the direct replacement for this player is. And it's Gernacho that's playing worse than Rashford this season.

You saw what I said when I talked about benching *a Rashford*. It was about how benching Rashford is different from benching Garnacho. So why twist my words like that.

Gernacho was never a first team player. He's trying to break into the first team. He started two games and was absolutely terrible so he got dropped back to the bench. Rashford is an established first team player. Do you expect the same treatment after two bad games? Or y'all are just super naive?

I'm not saying an established first-team player shouldn't be benched.

I can go hard on you if you are averse to being civil, watch it...

In Madrid, they boo the very best because they maintain a high standard...If Rashford is not delivering, he should sit...

ChristoBam:
Rashford is an established first-team player.
I'm even wondering why you asked that question.

Bro, you are not serious...

So, an established first-team player can't/should not be benched even when he is playing badly? If your answer or whatever your response is implies 'yes', then I have to stop taking you seriously...

ChristoBam:
Y'all just like arguing non-stop, don't you?

Did you watch out first two matches? Gernacho couldn't take on a single player. He was dispossessed like a little kid. Are you saying we should be starting him instead of Rashford?

I'm wondering why you can't categorically name one player that should start instead of Rashford. You keep hiding under generalizations.

Btw, Gerncaho was never even starting matches in the past. He was always coming off the bench. It's not the same as benching a Rashford.

Who da Bleep is "A RASHFORD"

ChristoBam:
I don't even understand your post. We're talking about the options here. You're moving from the main point to talks about recruitment. Please stick to the main point.

Who are the options? You can't list one, but you're bringing examples that are not in any way related to what we're saying.

We've already seen Gernacho start two matches back to back and we all concluded it shouldn't happen again. Man couldn't even take on one player.

Martial can't play from the left. We know the issue with Sancho.


So who are we playing when we bench Rashford?

You can't even name one player and you're bringing examples wey no join.

Some of the scenarios you even listed are plain silly, especially that hazard one. You literally don't have any player playing better than Rashford at that left. You can't even mention one name. Gernacho that's even better off the bench came in and couldn't even take on one player. Tried it back to back and was dispossessed like a kid. Is that who should be starting instead of Rashford?

You are dropping names and asking me for options...Lol

If Garnacho was dropped for being bad for 2 games why then must Rashford retain his place in the team?

So, Rashford should get extended game time for him to pick up while others should be dropped for playing badly abi? And you are on about options.

Any player who is not playing well should be dropped, it's that simple...Hannibal came in and did well against Brighton. Who would have thought? Definitely not you....

ChristoBam:
Which others?
We've seen what Gernacho can do starting from the left. Absolutely terrible. We saw it over 2 games. I don't want to see that again.

Martial? Sancho?

Where are the others?

When Fergie had enough of Beckham and kicked him out, was they anyone on the bench half as good as him?

When Mourinho opted for Varane instead of Pepe at Madrid, was Varane better than Pepe?

If Hazard was signed by Man Utd and not Madrid I am sure you would have been supporting the coach to keep playing him at the expense of developing youngsters who are hungry to perform.

They're a lot more examples...

It us only when it gets to this club that fans will start asking where the good players in the market are and what other options we have on the bench.

We dey here dey asking laughable questions yet the likes of City dey recruit good players steady.

chrisley024:
from my observation watching English NT, he passes more compared to when playing for Utd

That's why I reserved some blame for the coaching staff. If you watch the match against Brighton closely you'll see Bruno and Hojlund trying to press while Rashford will be jogging thus making a mess of their efforts.

I expect the coaching staff to point out all this to him and if he doesn't change, bench him.

ChristoBam:
The thing is if we don't start Rashford, who would we start? Gernacho? Sancho? Martial?

Let others come in and let's see what they can do...Rashford can cut out some of his nonsense with proper coaching.

How did we spend all this money yet we do not have one player who can go past his man effortlessly?

If we can keep the ball and create chances with good passing and movements then at least let's have individuals with good close control and dribbling who can open up defenses.

Seeing guys here and on Twitter defend their favourites at the expense of the team is saddening...Posing stats in games where the whole team plays well doesn't make you stand out but rather, it is how you perform when the team is playing badly, those moments where you lift the performance of the team with your individual quality...

Rashford won't play the way he is playing if he was at City. We can't all frown at his poor decision making yet the coach continues to start him. It just does not make sense. ETH should trust the young players in our team.

WhoDeyHause:
We need to serve them kabakaba because you have caught another easy fish like barka but when it's time to meet your mates like man shitty and real madrid you people will start hiding like a policeman who they gave Dane gun to go and fight UGM. That's how your fans were also praying for assnal and avoiding real madrid and psg in champions league draw. Nonsense club.

You are a mad man just like the hulk guy for Madrid thread...😂😂😂

Ellexy:
[Laurie Whitwell]: Manchester United not interested in Anwar El Ghazi, after proposal by agents. Right-wing options affected by Antony’s withdrawal + Sancho’s situation, but Pellistri was kept with a view to featuring, plus Garnacho could play there. Fernandes/Mount too, if necessary.

Good news.