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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:29pm On Sep 26, 2023
I know this is an under-strength Palace but we have kept the ball better than any other time this season.

ETH should trust the players on the bench...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:47pm On Sep 26, 2023
Casemiro and Amrabat will cook...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:45pm On Sep 26, 2023
larride:
We just bought them today. 😀
Hehehe
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:31pm On Sep 26, 2023
I dey feel Amrabat...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:28pm On Sep 26, 2023
Who is on the bench to replace the so called starters? Shey you dey see them?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:16pm On Sep 26, 2023
chrisley024:
maybe he didn't want to risk starting all the CBs
Martinez should be back by the weekend. Since McTom has decided to be useless he should be an option at the back...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:08pm On Sep 26, 2023
Amrabat as LB...I don't like it. Play him in his favourite position. If he struggles it might affect him going forward.

Dalot should have started at LB with Lindelof as the RB.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:14pm On Sep 25, 2023
The players at the club are not disciplined enough.

I support whatever move will see a change in the recent narrative. Fvck you Sancho....
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:46pm On Sep 25, 2023
ChristoBam:
Just a few months ago. Bruno was the one missing sitters back to back. Rashford was the next best thing after Mbappe. Scored a total of 30 goals for the club last season.

The crazy switch from everyone is so crazy.

The revision is also super hilarious. Inconsistent player scored 30 and asissted 11.
Before he starts scoring we will probably be out of the top 4 race. We do not him him to do it over a couple of months but be consistent throughout the season.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Burkina Faso Doctor Sent To Frontline For Criticizing Military Over Insecurity by patrickmuf(m): 3:54pm On Sep 25, 2023
This is what some Nigerians are asking for.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:12am On Sep 25, 2023
Former United defender Paul Parker on Marcus Rashford, I couldnt agree more & it was about time :

"I was criticising Rashford when he scored goals because I wanted him to provide more for the team. Now, he is not scoring goals anymore, and his decision-making is still poor".

"Everyone was saying that he was winning Man United games, but the only thing they could come up with is that he was scoring goals".

"It has taken people a while, but now they are finally seeing that he is not contributing to anything. He should be because he is a fast winger with decent technical abilities, but in fact, he is just a selfish player who lives on the back of being good in February".

"I think that Man United rushed in too quickly to give him this huge contract. Overall, he has been delivering a poor return throughout his Man United career. That's a fact."

“I think the fans are tired of seeing him faking an injury all the times he gets tackled. They want to see him get up, chase back and get the ball back".

"What he is doing is something you would expect to see in a schoolyard from a petulant child. You wouldn't expect it to happen at Old Trafford. Not in a million years".

"But he does that every single time, and it shows me that he might not be a player for Man United after all. He needs to change his game and his attitude."
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:57pm On Sep 24, 2023
About Rashford's car crash, why is he driving to an away game?

Is the distance that short? Or did the accident happen at Manchester?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:46pm On Sep 24, 2023
eph12:
We will struggle against anybody
Baba wait make I chop person money.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:27pm On Sep 24, 2023
We will struggle at Sheffield, who go bet?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 4:17pm On Sep 24, 2023
Dead Chelsea...This club is finished.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:15pm On Sep 24, 2023
eph12:
He really struggled last season but I guess he's back to what we used to know him for
He just was not given a chance.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:15pm On Sep 24, 2023
If Brighton had lost my guy for don come drop alert here.

No be so e suppose be o!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:21pm On Sep 24, 2023
nitrogen:
Only God knows where they found the guy. He is good.
Celtic. Na only Man Utd you dey follow?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 12:48pm On Sep 24, 2023
I was going to ask that they stop but I might just get lynched...

One takeaway from this whole wahala is that DonJ should never be trusted. If it's you in the photo then as Sod said you cast aspersions on folks with tribal marks even when your mum has one on her face and if it isn't you, then you are guilty of what you accused Tinubu of...

I love how you have tacitly avoided the questions posed to you about the picture but people will draw conclusions regardless and both ways do not favour you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:15pm On Sep 24, 2023
timay1:
Yea. that's why they only have 1 point from 5 games.

With the way they are going, relegation is sure for them. You guys think playing tiki taka is the only way to win a football game.

The reason Real Madrid js so successful today is that Perez don't demand beautiful football from the coaches he hires, he only demands 3 points and trophies from them. How you'll do it is up to you as a coach. If you like play beautiful football or Haram football. Just win the bloody game.
Nobody said tiki taka is the way, the truth and the light. Madrid play very good football. It watch almost all their games so, I know what I am talking about. Of the teams who have won playing the way we do, how many have been successful for a stretch?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:12pm On Sep 24, 2023
ChristoBam:
Teams get injuries like that and don't take the decision to play like that.

But as for United, this is a given. Couple of poor results and injuries and you'll end up playing like that. Don't give a fvck who it is. We can play the 'what ifs game' but you can't tell until your fave manager is on the hot seat.

If he had lost the game. I don't even want to begin to say what'd have happened. One of the difficulties of managing United.
See who is talking about 'favourite manager'...It's ETH we are talking about here not Poch so, you of all people should know that I was 100% in support of his appointment and had a tough job trying to get you to be optimistic ahead of his reign...The fact I supported him should have seen me binding defending whatever he does but I am not cut from that clothing, I'll criticize the team when I feel we are not getting it right and praise the team when it is well deserving of praise...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:59am On Sep 24, 2023
Protect the backline like we were up against Doku - Haaland - Foden or Diaz - Jota - Salah...

If we come up against City now, we will be entertained with a lot of footballing thesis here highlighting why we need to bring in Mou to help design a bus parking plan...People will justify why we shouldn't start a forward player at all just to protect Lindelof and Evans like they're amateurs...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:46am On Sep 24, 2023
melodyogonna:
Coaches are not magicians, the first thing is really players that play a certain way. You can't play ETH's style with McTominay at the base of your midfield hiding from passes. You can with a younger version of Eriksen.

Rashford seems to have forgotten how to combine with team mates for some reason. Hojlund is showing he's not good with the ball on his feet, maybe it's just because he's new. We have no right winger. Our first choice defenders are all injured. Nah, I'll not blame ETH on this, we started the season very badly in terms of injuries.
Is it my job to bench McTom? Whatever happened to starting Casemiro, Bruno and Hannibal in a 4-3-3 and playing Rashford on the Right and Garnacho on the left?

Did we not see Klopp pairing MacAllister and Szbolzlai with Jota in front of them when they did not have enough options in midfield?

See how you guys are on about Eriksen but when we pointed out here that Mount was nothing like Eriksen you guys thought we were hating. If it is established that his style needs a player like Eriksen to thrive, why didn't he opt for a player similar to Eriksen?

Talking about injuries, it's the reason we have a large squad. Those guys get paid every week because the club think they can do a job when the first-choice players are unavailable. It is not against Burnley that we should start cooking up excuses. Look at the starting 11 of both teams and tell me which team should keep the ball better and create more chances.

A bad player at Man Utd will easily start every game for Fulham, a team that is better than Burnley.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:36am On Sep 24, 2023
maik99:
You people will agree that players are trash yet expect wonders with them
No be the same Ghostominay play today? Not the same selfish Rashford? Or weak Lindelof? Or stupid Dalot?
So where the quality to win con dey fGs?
Do you accept that players can improve through good coaching?

Do you think City will be this dominant without Pep?

Fergie did a lot with average players. Some players at City won't be so good away from Pep's system.

I will understand if we come up against Liverpool, City, Arsenal and the likes and falter but not against the Burnley's and Wolves of the world...

I watched City when Pep first joined in a preseason against Arsenal. One thing was evident, his imprints on the football they tried to play. It was his first game but you could easily see what he was on about. I did not need to watch videos of analysis to see whatever he was on about as it was clear for all to see even though the players were not so good. A couple of years after you watch City play you'd see a team that has perfected the Pep style.

It's the second season and from our games, I see nothing to suggest the players train together. I just want to see the team play football that is recognisable just so I know we are headed
somewhere but no, I have not seen anything to suggest we are making progress...Maybe it is me who is not paying attention so, please help explain what you see when you watch us play.

I agree that some of the players we parade are not good enough but how about those at Burnley? How come they kept the ball better and created better chances?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:39am On Sep 24, 2023
Rashford has always been like this. The only difference is that he is not getting the odd goal or assist to mask his poor performances.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:50pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
Lol all of these things are in your head. Cuz you obviously want the manager out and I don't. What's my business with me vs them? All I'm doing is stating facts.


We probably would have played better if we used a midfield of Casemiro, Eriksen anBruno. But the question is would we have won? I seriously doubt. We needed the 3 points and got it. The gameplan no matter how annoying it was worked.

I'd be all out for Ten Hag if we didn't have these crazy injury problems.
Was it part of the game plan to have them hit the post and have Onana making saves to keep us in the game?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:49pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
I'm not going to start arguments about that City team. There's a reason Cancelo was frozen out of the squad. Sterling was also very mid before he was sold. I'm not even arguing the fact Pep is the secret behind their style of play. Just stating the fact about those players.


My point is don't compare our team to City's. No one does. A few injuries will only affect them a little. They can field their 2nd team and easily beat anyone. No team has that luxury, even Madrid.

Btw, Ten Hag had a system like that at Ajax also. Mid players looked like world beaters. VDB looked like the next best thing. De ligt looked like something else.
You know the bolded is true yet you weren't initially in support of his appointment.

My worry is that I supported him in lieu of the bolded but nothing points to the fact that he is on the way to establishing a recognizable latter of play here which is very disturbing...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:35pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
There's a reason not every top team gets to the latter stages of these cup competitions.

It's because if you make too many changes, the team can look unidentifiable. That's how mid teams from championship can shock top teams in the league.

I wouldn't take any player from Burnely. But that's the first team of a manager. That's the team he planned the season with. That's the team he trusts in. That's the team he's chosen. Whatever identity they have, it's at the peak when they're together.


And no, I don't view every criticism of the manager in that light. The agenda is just so obvious when you and the other guys try to downplay the injury problems we're facing.
You are trying too hard to start a 'we vs them' scenario here and it's still not working.

If we played against Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal or even Chelsea then the injury concerns will come into play but no Burnley (Fvcking Burnley!)...We had enough quality to not just win but play better than we did.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:22pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
Varane
Martinez
Luke Shaw
Mount(since you said Eriksen is not a guaranteed starter).
Antony
Bissaka

That's 6 first team players.


And please never compare us to City! No team can even be compared to City. They can go through a crazy injury crises and still field a super strong team. Very few can do that.
Lol...They're only a well-drilled team and nothing more. There are a lot of pointers to the fact that Pep is the genius behind the beautiful football they play.

Go watch Gundogan at Barca or Cancelo (He was very poor today but then he scored the winner so unless you watched the game you wouldn't know), and watch Sterling at Chelsea too...

Ake, Akanji, Stones, Nunes (Who noticed him at Wolves?), Kovacic and a lot of the players at City were not so highly rated before now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:13pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
Rashford needs to be sold? 😂😭

This fanbase ehhn.

We've spent how much on wingers since SAF left? Probably close to 400m. How many of them have been better than Rashford?

You want to sell Rashford and buy who?

😂 Please don't crack me up.
Like Rashford is the best winger out there...

You have a striker who looks like a good box striker yet you parade wingers who rather cut in and shoot...Lol...

It is the same reason I think Kane will struggle at Bayern because away from scoring against bottom-placed teams in that league, he will struggle against top opposition. After all, Sane rather cut in and take a shot than look for the striker. Kane will thrive with Coman and probably Gnabry (He too is a goal scorer).
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:07pm On Sep 23, 2023
Ellexy:
For me the jury is still out on him considering the many injuries and off field drama he's had deal with it but so far I feel we should have seen more from him especially in tactics and style of play but's been underwhelming tbh.
Simple. It is the reason I am concerned...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:06pm On Sep 23, 2023
ChristoBam:
You'll never get my point cuz your thinking is towards one direction now. And it's the sacking of the manager. It's super obvious.

When you play on an away ground in the premier league and have most of your first team players out and need 3 points more than anything in this world, that's how you end up playing!


Admit defeat? We fvcking won! What're you on about?
I hope you remember that I was the one trying to convince you to give ETH a chance even when you were not sold on him.

With our starting team today and even the options on the bench, we had enough quality to go on and dominate. You saying it was all about going out there to get the 3 pts today comes across as you making excuses.

How many players from that Burnley team will you exchange for the players we paraded? Let us praise the team when they do well and criticize when we play poorly...

You are making the mistake of thinking that criticism after a win equates to calls for the Manager's head but far from it, some of us recognize danger from miles away. We can't keep playing so poorly, we won't be always lucky.

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