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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by patrickmuf(m): 9:33pm On Aug 13, 2021
Kikiki This thread will be deserted soon, it's a yearly routine...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:39pm On Aug 13, 2021
TheLequte:
Because you cannot compare Klopp with Ole. And Liverpool had really quality players to boot. They had to be perfect to beat Pep and his moneybags. The previous season Liverpool garnered over 90 points and still lost the league to City.

Man Utd will have to have a perfect season to have a chance at the trophy.

You don’t rate Fred, you don’t rate McTomminay but you want to equate them to Rodri and Fernandinho. Baba. How?

The only quality midfielders we have are Pogba and Bruno. And Pogba is a defensive liability. Really think about it. Your eyes will be opened.

The only department we are not really far behind is attack. And City even have more bodies there sef. Bruno was overplayed last season. AWB too. And Maguire. When that happens the level of performance drops and the likelihood of an injury will increase.

You are looking at a starting XI, I’m looking at a squad of 25 players. You are wrong because, over the course of a season, many things will happen and the team wirh the best squad depth usually have the better chances.
Fernandinho to City is more like Matic to us...

Rodri is not particularly exceptional at shielding the defense, Pep and City's style of play means he has little to do defensively in most games...Fred and to a lesser extent will do a job in such circumstances...

I'm certain in defense we're on par, in midfield, they're slightly ahead but that is neglible in the grand scheme of things and in attack, I feel we just about shade it or we're at worst on par...

And no, don't get it twisted, we have a very good squad but Ole doesn't trust his bench which to me is on him...If Pep played Walker every other game, you'd never rate Cancelo same with other positions at City, it's the reason why folks dread City players in the FPL (You never know who he'll select)...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 5:33pm On Aug 13, 2021
handelex:
Nothing making excuses but it's wrong to use Donnarumma a free agent to compare the complexities of Varane deal. They're not the same at all.
Varane on the last year of his contract shouldn't be more complex than Lukaku to Chelsea and Grealish to City...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 5:31pm On Aug 13, 2021
donjazet:
Then it loses its core substance.
For instance, imagine where patrickmuf, a manunited fan wins a CHELSEA fan league. It wouldn't make sense na. cheesy cheesy
Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:40pm On Aug 13, 2021
Donnarumma played in the final, yet he has since completed his deal with PSG and arrived France but in our own case, we are yet to complete Varane's deal, a playerwho didn't even make the Semis with France...

Grealish has since returned from Holidays and even featured in the Community Shield against Leicester City...

Our management never serious...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:36pm On Aug 13, 2021
Oasis007:
Solskjaer: "My expectations are that we keep developing our style and playing good football. You never know with results in football but hopefully when we get to April or May, we'll be there or thereabouts."
This loser keeps going from progressing to developing...When will we ever be ready? Oga you have no excuse abeg!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:35pm On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
Giving Sancho extra time off when he played next to nothing at the Euros is ridiculous, especially when the club knew Rashford was going to be out and Martial was likely to be unfit after his long layoff.

Then the Varane situation is another comedy series on its own. How long does it take to sign a contract?

They found a way to bungle a beautiful situation.
I just tire for the management of this football club...See how swift Chelsea went in for Lukaku and elsewhere, PSG for Messi...

Just when we thought things had changed, everything goes back to status quo...

Tufiakwa!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 1:28pm On Aug 13, 2021
Blacknote:
I have no problem of being called whatever animal he choose to, I found it absurd by it's usage here belittling Leo.
. Nothing too serious...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by patrickmuf(m): 12:52pm On Aug 13, 2021
Blacknote:
This is metaphoric expression, I see no reason why it should be mistake to being referred to as a lion.



You can't take Kenyan blog serious, same as their Nigerian/Ghanian counterparts.



I don't think you read this before posting it.

And to answer the bold, yes I need more from a credible source.
How is he being called a lion a problem to you? You can as well call your favorite players Tiger, Anaconda or whatever...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:45pm On Aug 13, 2021
melodyogonna:
This Vestegaard dey good sha
I watched him closely last season, he is a very good CB and he can pass, fantastic long passes...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:44pm On Aug 13, 2021
Oasis007:
grin

Jürgen Klopp: "We all know about the [financial] situation of Chelsea, City and PSG for example. What Manchester United is doing, I don't know exactly how they do it."
He should know we're not mates on the business front...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:43pm On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
I am not saying the gap is huge. With Varane and Sancho we tried closing it only for them to add Grealish and possibly Kane.

However if there squad is even only slightly better but their manager is way better I don’t see us winning the league.

Our only hope is miraculous seasons from 2-3 of our players and injury crises for them.

Chelshit will also be in the mix cos they have a balanced squad and a really good manager.

I don’t expect Liverpool to challenge cos I believe that squad is worn out.

I predict

City
Utd/Chelshit
Liverpool
I feel Tuchel has to forgo his 3 at the back and play 4-3-3 when they're up against smaller teams else they'll struggle to break mid table teams down. The 3-4-3 works best against top teams capable of hurting them...In a cup competition, Chelsea will be difficult but over a 38 game league, if they don't attack more, they'll struggle to win it...

Liverpool? I will wait to see how VVD and Gomez fit in on their return before writing them off...They still have a lot of quality though I feel they need to replace Wijnaldum with a like for like player...

Manchester City will jump ahead of everyone if they sign Kane if not, it's a toss between them, Liverpool, Chelsea and us for the title...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:50am On Aug 13, 2021
elrony:
The thing no taya you?
No be today...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:43am On Aug 13, 2021
Jodera:
Bro Patrick, Do you want to change the will of the lord ?? gringrin
We have suffered enough, it's time for blessings on blessings...The EPL trophy is coming back to Old Trafford...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:31am On Aug 13, 2021
Vestegaard completes Leicester City medical...

You have got to admit Leicester have a good management...They don't slack at all...

Daka will likely replace Vardy next season or thereabout...

Sutton on the other hand look tired of staying in the EPL, they're doing their best to be relegated. Let's see if they'll sell Ward Prowse to Villa/Spurs...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:29am On Aug 13, 2021
Panther7:
I have lower my expectations already, I even dreamt we lost to Leeds sef undecided undecided
Abeg o! I hope you have prayed over it? grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:26am On Aug 13, 2021
Panther7:
Which begs the question, is Ole is a good coach? Filling in the gap grin grin
Ole has this season to prove us wrong...The probability that he will disappoint is still higher than the chance that he will do well...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:18am On Aug 13, 2021
elrony:
So like this we are stuck with McFraud cry cry

This club people no fit just do something complete for once make we praise them.

No noteworthy outgoings either, them no dey price our players??
See Newcastle paid 25m plus add ons for Willock but for whatever reason, we are stuck with Lingard...

We couldn't do a deal with Milan for Dalot...

Pereira is there o! Norwich are paying 8m to sign relatively unknown players from the Greek League...

Abi we need to hire another person that will handle negotiations with clubs coming for our players?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:16am On Aug 13, 2021
elrony:
I think what doc is trying to tell you is that City have an overall better team than we do, when you factor in both the quality in their squad depth.

If you come add eshin AMAKAnaki vs Apari to the mix, EBT lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
I understand him but I point is that the gap isn't as huge as it is being painted...I will go ahead to say the biggest difference is the coaching personnel ecause when I look at our squad, I marvel at what Pep or any top manager will achieve if they joined...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:03am On Aug 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
What are your expectations this season?
Because we all here tend to forget what we expect when things get rosy.

For me

EPL (winners)
UCL QF at least

I don't care about other cups.
If we sign a DM;

EPL winners
UCL Semis
FA cup

If we don't sign;

EPL 2nd position...
UCL Quarters/Semis depending on the draw...
Fa Cup...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:55am On Aug 13, 2021
KingAlabi:
What do you guys mean by decent challenge?

What challenge did we mount last season with regards the league?

It's winning it or nothing for me oh, if he does mount this decent challenge and doesn't win the league, it will be said he bottled it, it is winning or nothing
If we sign a DM, I'd be more confident however, even if we don't win the league, we shouldn't be more than 5 pts off the first position...

In the UCL, the minimum should be a semi final. The FA Cup is the very least he should achieve...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:52am On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
Not having quality back ups at DM and CB is significant. Also City have about 5-6 forwards of similar quality.

We have Cavani (injury prone), Martial, Greenwood, Sancho. Rashford is out for months and James has no brain.
Fernandinho = Matic, Rodri is better than any of Mcfred in recycling possession but in terms of protecting the back 4, I don't think he is better...Their style of play covers for Rodri's deficiencies...

At the back, they have Stones, Dias, Laporte and Ake with Fernandinho able to slot in there if need be whilst we have Varane, Maguire, Lindelof and Bailly with Matic/McTom capable of deoutizing if required...I'll say Bailly and Ake even themselves out, Varane is better than Stones whilst Maguire should be able to hold his own in a comparison with Dias...Ole has to get us playing well in a set up that mask any deficiency in our team. We have quite a good squad of players, it's on Ole to figure out how to get the best out of each and every player.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:45am On Aug 13, 2021
When the season starts and you come here to say KDB is better than Bruno, people will argue otherwise...

They'll also argue that Maguire is not inferior to Dias neither is Gundogan better than Pogba nor is Foden better than Greenwood...

No one here will ever accept Zichenko is better than Shaw just as I am certain people will flood this place with stats to show Sterling isn't better than Rashford or is it Grealish some of you will accept is better than Sancho?

How about Varane vs Stones? It looks like a stretch, will you guys accept Stones is better than Lindelof?

Jesus vs Cavani nko? Is it even up for debate? Cavani is better...

If Ole fails to get us playing very well in a set up that masks the main deficiency in the team assuming we fail to sign a DM, it's solely on him.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:47am On Aug 13, 2021
TheLequte:
If we’re hit with an injury, those academy players and mata cannot give us the same level of performance.

At RB we have AWB and Dalot. One is a liability offensively, the other is a liability defensively. City have Walker and Cancelo. One gets injured or fatigued, the other one steps up.

And don’t try to compare City’s midfield with ours. They have way more quality than we do. It’s not even an argument.
Was Liverpool's team better than City when they won the league?

You conveniently picked the RB position to show City is better than us, how about the LB spot? How about the CB position?

How can you not compare a midfield of Pogba, Bruno, VDB, Fred, Matic, McTominay to KDB, Gundogan, B. Silva, Rodri, Fernandinho, Foden?

In attack, we have Rashford, Martial, Cavani, Greenwood and Sancho while they have Grealish, Sterling, Mahrez, Jesus and Torres...Are they miles better? Hell no...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:17am On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
Remove Mata who is overage and has been finished for a while.

Remove Garner who is going on loan and won’t be available

Remove all our teenagers who are untested apart from Greenwood. You want to go into the season depending on 17 and 18yr olds?

We hype our Academy products because we see them regularly but remember that when we were hyping Gomes and Chong Man City had Sancho and Foden.

There are Academy products at City who are as good and probably even more ready than ours who won’t smell first team there this season because City has enough QUALITY senior players.
I put them there in any case we are hit with an injury crisis... Even if I take them off, for each position, you can see we have a quality back up bar the DM and maybe CB position where you don't know if Bailly will choose to resume as a player or as a Doctor...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:03am On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
We can’t match Man City. When it comes to winning the league it’s not just about the first 11.

By the time you get to our 2nd and 3rd choice in most positions you notice a big drop off that City does not have.
Goal Keeper: De Gea, Henderson and Heaton - We are good enough here...

Defense:
RB: AWB and Dalot
CB: Maguire, Varane, Lindelof, Bailly
LB: Shaw, Telles

Midfield:
DM: McTom, Matic, Garner
CM: Fred, Pogba, VDB, Hannibal
AM: Bruno, Sancho, Mata, Shoretire

Attack:
LWF: Martial, Rashford, Sancho, Elanga
CF: Cavani, Greenwood, Martial
RWF: Sancho, Greenwood, James...

The only visible area where we have weakness is the DM position where Matic cannot play every game and McTominay cannot do the job alone...

We are not that bad. If Ole uses the squad well, we should be able to mount a decent challenge and win 1 or 2 cup competitions...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:32am On Aug 13, 2021
Panther7:
Not just Pep but Tuchel and Klopp are clearly better than him so if Pep ain't winning it, it will be those two.
Player for player, we can match any team in the league, the only area where we are obviously suspect is the DM position and the coaching department...A good coach should be able to mount a strong title challenge with this squad even without signing an expert DM...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:24am On Aug 13, 2021
afrodoc2:
We are not winning the league. Forget it. Our best hope is to go the Chelshit route and win knockout competitions.

Amaka can’t beat Pep in a league format when Pep’s squad is better and Pep is obviously the better manager.
We are not really far behind, with a good DM, I reckon we should be in with a strong chance but then, Amaka will always be Amaka, the S.I. Unit of disappointment...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:27am On Aug 13, 2021
Oasis007:
Solskjær: "You have to start well, gain momentum. Last year we were number two, the year before number three, so there is progression. You have to be on top from the first to the last match."

- TV2
Ole, enough of this your attempt to get into the heads of fans...You and your boys should bring the EPL back to OLD Trafford or you bounce...

Tuchel, didn't need to show Chelsea fans charts showing progression or whatever, just win some trophies and stay competitive on all fronts...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:18pm On Aug 12, 2021
KingTom:
Do not allow headstrong foolish pride lead you to Bankruptcy my brother grin grin
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:26pm On Aug 12, 2021
Oasis007 how far Varane training pics?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:26pm On Aug 12, 2021
Mrviktor:
Where is Varane oh.

Tomorrow league dey start.

Baba never train. angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry angry

Messi has signed.
Lukaku has signed.

Varane since 3 weeks ago never sign.

Wtf is this
See Messi na...

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