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ChristineC:
mehn this your Nigerian analogy is way off target

No, it's not...It's like the UAE and Nigeria both have oil but one uses her oil money to import western technologies to the benefit of their citizenry whilst we choose to do otherwise here. The UAE didn't say because they're not as old as the US, Japan or Germany then they should be excused...

It's the same scenario here, Fergie has done the dirty job, now the club is bigger and can attract the best players so, it's inexcusable for any coach to come here, have the club spend some much in transfer fees and wages yet want to be given as much time as Fergie...

melodyogonna:
You keep mouthing about financial war chest. Didn't we have this financial war chest when we hired three "world class" managers and played atrocious football?

Don't stop there, add that they won trophies too...

Brighton play good football without trophies, that's not what I want from Manchester United...

melodyogonna:
Your analogy is flawed. First, the problem with Nigeria apart from the fact it was designed to fail is corruption.

Man United on the other is hand is comparable to the two scenarios. Both SAF, Klopp, and Ole were handed a team with lots of deadwood and underperforming players. So everyone had the job of building a trophy-winning team. I read SAF's autobiography, he said in his early seasons the media was coming for his head because he didn't win anything yet, but thankfully the club owners knew the work he was doing behind the scenes, and they knew he was taking the club to the right direction so they supported him.

I once read a Liverpool fan's answer on Reddit to "How did you know Klopp was going to be successful after so many years?" He said that at the end of every season you could see signs of definite improvement, you'd be lying if you don't see it in our case now.

But ofcourse, all these coaches had the skeptical, impatient fans that wanted the coaches sacked.

When SAF took over, the club didn't have the financial war chest it has now...

Ole has spent more than £400m in 2.5 years years here but you want us to compare him to Klopp and Fergie...Based the money spent, Ole has no excuse whatsoever not to deliver...£400m is not beans...How much has Rodgers, Simeone and the likes spent in that time frame? Before you talk about how poor a squad we have, some of our best players are still players we had before Ole came in.

melodyogonna:
All these ones na long story sha. Did SAF take 5 years to win silverware? Did it take Klopp 4 years to win silverware?

Why are you complaining about Nigeria? Why not wait to see Nigeria at 200 yrs and above before comparing us to the Western powers?

Manchester City were bought in 2008 but won the league in 2011/2012 season...You think City will give any coach 3 years in hope that he will win the league?

Gambit001:
Clarifying #MUFC and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer Twitter Misconceptions

1. “Solskjaer has been in charge for 4 years.

Subtract 4 from 2021 and it’s 2017.
Ole became the permanent manager in March 2019 and this is his 3rd full season in charge.

It’s been 2 years and 5 months. Not 4 years.

2. “We are playing shit football. It’s boring.”

Goals in 17/18: 99
Goals in 18/19: 84
Goals in 19/20: 110
Goals in 20/21: 116

Games under Moyes, LvG and Jose (combined) where United scored 5+ goals: 2

Games under Solskjaer where United scored 5+ goals: 10

But sure, boring.

3. “4-3-3 or nothing.”

Bust. While 4-3-3 will be used against certain oppositions (bottom half teams and low blocks), 4-2-3-1 will remain our primary formation. There is more than one way to win a title you know…

4.“We play two DMs in 4-2-3-1.”

Again, NOPE. Ole wants hybrid midfielders in the pivot — who play as a progressive CM on the ball and as a defensive CM off the ball. Such midfielders exhibit a high work rate and dominance on pitch.
Hence McFred works against most teams. Think.

5. “Ole preaches but doesn’t promote the youth.”

Tell that to Mason Greenwood, Anthony Elanga, Shola Shoretire, Brandon Williams, Tahith Chong, James Garner, Dean Henderson, Teden Mengi, Hannibal Mejbri, Dylan Levitt, Will Fish, Ethan Laird and Ethan Galbraith.

6. “Manchester United under Solskjaer have no pull.”

So Raphael Varane, Jadon Sancho, Harry Maguire, Bruno Fernandes and Edinson Cavani just magically dropped from the skies onto Old Trafford, right?
Also, a certain Paul Pogba loves Solskjaer. Make that of what you will. ��‍♂️

7. “Ole is tactically naive. Just vibes.”

I wonder who schooled Marcelo Bielsa, Pep Guardiola, Jose Mourinho, Juergen Klopp, Julian Nagelsmann, Mauricio Pochettino and Thomas Tuchel?

Was it Aladdin’s genie?

PS: Arsenal curse (Arteta, Emery) to end this season.



8. “We will never win a trophy under Ole. Move him on.”

He’s assembling a world class squad and now you don’t want him to fulfil his project? Bleep logic.

Klopp took 4 years to win silverware.
SAF took 5 years to win silverware.
Ole will win silverware this season (his 3rd).

Makes no sense to me...

SAF didn't meet a Manchester United that so powerful (Huge financial war chest), he gradually managed to get the team to a position where they're one of the biggest clubs in the world with huge revenues...A club without a sugar daddy yet is one of the biggest spenders...

If SAF was hired today, nobody will give him 5 years, not at a club like Manchester United that spends a lot which in turn means greater demand for trophies...

I have trashed this line of thought before. It's like saying since it took America over 200 years to get to where they are, Nigeria can be excused for where we find ourselves when in all honesty, the West have done the hard work and are still in the business of doing more, all we have to do is import the technologies from the West. We have the money to do so if not to even start developing ours...

Talking about Klopp, he had earned the right to have the Liverpool board exercise some patience. His achievement with Dortmund is outstanding. He signed for Liverpool in October, 2015 and finished as runners up in the UEL.
In the 2016/2017 season, they finished 4th.
In the 2017/2018 season they were runners up in the UCL...
In 2018/2019 they won the UCL and finished runners up in the league with 97 pts...
In 2019/2020, they won the league.
In 2020/2021, they finished 3rd in league after an injury ravaged campaign.

2 finals in Europe in his first 3 seasons (2 and a half sef) . In his time at Anfield, Liverpool has reached 3 European finals winning 1...They have posed to greatest challenge to Pep and City...Abeg don't compare Klopp at Liverpool to Ole...

Your point about goals scored is meaningless without trophies...

Promoting youths? Nobody has held that against him, it is you arguing with your imagination...

If Ole likes, he should beat Pep, Klopp, Tuchel, Benitez, NES, Rodgers again but if he fails to win the league or any other major trophy, he'd be adjudged a failure...

nosiebaba:
Missed the point again, what are weapons used for, to kill mosquitoes or humans? What if they are in the wrong hands in the hands of terrorists. Russia and China developing weapons everyday is a game of superiority between them and the USA. Who has a better capacity of wiping the other out completely with one strike. Russia developing Satan nuclear weapons is only to match their rivals.

You're one stubborn fella, you made a point that was challenged and rightly so but you're trying to work your way around it...

nosiebaba:
The original post in general is about weapons that have fallen in the hands of the taliban. And these taliban are allies of( China, Iran, turkey) strongest confirmed enemies of the USA, Not just black hawks. Amongst these weapons are black hawks, attack helicopters, missiles and even fighter jets. I know people always want to claim superiority of knowledge in other people's posts even when they miss the point.
There is now a TERRORIST AIR FORCE

Abeg go back to the post he quoted, he clearly made reference to the weapons that was mentioned...

There’s nothing about black hawks...

nosiebaba:
Oga Google is your friend. And who said apaches weren't used in the war too

Who said they aren't used for wars? You obviously over hyped the black hawk.

raumdeuter:
Boateng is relaxing now and relishing the great trophies he won in his career, The same trophies Terry and Silva are chasing till now

Silva has won an international trophy and the UCL with several recognitions along the way...Has Boateng ever made it to a team of the week?

raumdeuter:
Playing at the top level is what counts. Some players bow out, Some don't mind embarrassing themselves going to Aston Villa or QPR

You will see that the moment Silva or Terry win the world cup the following day they will stop football

So what is Boateng still looking for na? Is it CAF Champions league, or AFC Champions league he is looking for?

If Snake bite him in that forest it will not be funny...Meanwhile, let me even ask, is it world cup Ribery is looking for?

Tomahawk99:
Black Hawk so sophisticated? Black Hawk is not Apache please. Black Hawk is not even among top 5 most advanced helicopters.

Well said...

raumdeuter:
He has done it early in life his strugggles in his 30s are inconsequential
Do you dell on the fact that Ronaldinho and Kaka were not playing top level football in their 30s while Mark Noble is

They were not clubless at least...Boateng is an African, Akwa United or Wikki Tourist won't say no to him, let him come back or better still, let him join Berekum Chelsea in Ghana...

raumdeuter:
When you do stuff early in life, you win the biggest trophies early you wont be struggling at 40yrs

But but Boateng the early achiever is STRUGGLING to find a club...

raumdeuter:
What you do in your 30s doesnt matter when you have won it all earlier in life, WHen you see a 70yr old man writing JAMB you will ask what he was doing at 17

Please tell Boateng to go and rest after all you claim he should be resting now...His mates are still commanding reasonable transfer fees but baba is struggling to find a club even though he is a free agent...This life no balance...

melodyogonna:
My one problem with him. Go dey play same set of players week in week out.

I hope with the new signings and return of Key players, he'll use the squad better...

DeadPresidents:
These are terrible things you are suggesting.

Why should we field McTom who does not have the passing range/positional awareness necessary to anchor the midfield as a sole DM against a pressing Southampton side?

Are Southampton that strong with Ings and Vestegaard gone? Sancho for James though is fine...

Depending on how the game unfolds, Martial for one of McFred in 2nd half...

ChristineC:
arsenal may also be in for him at reduced cost next summer.

Levy will rather shoot Kane than allow him join Arsenal...

TrebleChamp:
Ole wey no kuku sabi use all his players well b4, Linderlof benching fit long pass the proposed 4th mainland bridge

Hehehe No be lie...

ChristineC:
I don't think Kane has ever been on United radar. if he's blocked from moving to City this year, leaving England may be his only choice.

Maybe PSG but age is not on his side...

Oasis007:
Fixed.

Thank you...

Oasis007:
Solskjær on Varane: "Champions League, World Cup wins, everything about him is class. Quick, strong, good in the air, can play with both feet, the short answer is everything about him is what you want."

Lindelof e don be for you...

Oasis007:
Solskjær: "With Amad, I have to say he's doing really, really well in training, he's come back a little later after the Olympics and now he's looking really good. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays as well. It has to be the right loan, the club, way of playing."

Amad should stay and deputize for Sancho...Greenwood should be played as a CF going forward, he and Cavani should share game time occupying that position whilst Martial and Rashford battle for the LWF position...James can play on either wings in cup games...

lordfalcao:
fake love. We no need am

Okay, Chelsea CEO...

ChristoBam:
You mean Kane might end up at City.

And I just pray a new revelation pops up this year. Just like Haaland and Mbappe. Make we sef sign that one.

If Kane does not get the move this summer then it might just be his last chance to get that big move.

lordfalcao:
you are one of them. Man u fan na so jorginho matter Dy so dear to you

Try harder...

lordfalcao:
seems like you are one of the herd mentality. This one you are boiling a over 100 degrees

You're not making any sense...

freshalien:
When you reinforce such useless mindsets held by Nigerians that has kept you people stagnant in life and development for almost 30 years, I am forced to ask “you never taya to suffer”?

The people are their own problem...They have seen that the PDP are APC would never give their ticket to an outsider yet they insist on voting for the candidates presented by both parties, candidates that were not popular but were given their respective party flags because of the deals they have brokered...

lordfalcao:
Omo I tire like kante doesn't have his weakness or kovacic

Is 3-4-3 no longer a formation centred on improving and covering each player's weakness.. lol now it's because of jorginhowe are playing 3-4-3

I noticed most people here are of herd mentality.. when one player is targeted everyone becomes biased around him. Even when they have different opinions on their own..

What is your problem? Should we also you say have herd mentality for following others who support Jorginho? Can't some of you acknowledge people's right to different opinions rather than tag it what it's not?

The opinion is more or less split yet instead of stating your point as per why you support Jorginho, you choose to throw cheap shots around...

Oasis007:
With Edinson Cavani expected to leave Manchester United at the end of the season, Solskjær is keen to bring in an established striker to fill the gap. Kylian Mbappé is one of the options on the table, along with Erling Haaland, Harry Kane and Lautaro Martínez.

- Rob Dawson [ESPN]

Mbappe will likely join Madrid, Haaland might end up at Bayern or they'll be a serious bidding war for his signature...

Kane might end up at Spurs before this window shutdown...

Martinez? Is he prolific enough?

NIJJAking:
Repent now of your sinful evil ways to avoid spending your eternity in hell fire after you die. Jesus Christ love and warns you to repent and convert now to Christianity to avoid hell fire. Only Jesus Christ can save you by his death on the cross and his blood which washes away your sins, any other ways ( Islam, paganism, Hinduism, atheism, etc) can not save you. Be wise while you still have the chance accept Jesus Christ now and save your soul from hell. Be wiser than Satan and follow the one true God

Who is this lost soul again?

BlueAngel444:
did you watch the euros or are rating this players based on football manager ad. There's a reason Jorginho made the XI and not Barella, won't say much on Verrati who Tuchel stopped playing as a DM at his time in PSG opting for Manquinhos.

It's high time you farts stop calming stubborn and having more sense than people who watch them play in the field week in week out and voted. Barella that would leave his midfield work many times for Jorginho

When you learn to chat like a rational human, you'll get a deserved response...

swiz123:
Of course he has. Make no mistake, he is still slow and can't keep up with faster players. But the improvement came in areas of his positional awareness, discipline and passing.

Ibime is a confused human being. All his theories are too flawed.If Chelsea system helped him, why wasn't he exposed at Italy. He is clinging desparately at Italy vs Spain match as a lifeline. My unbiased self told him for free why that game was that way but his biased self chose to believe that only Jorginho was at fault. When Italy does well, it is Varrati, Barella, Chiesa or even Donarumma. When they play badly, it's only Jorginho. To even think he was lecturing me about scattergun criticism.

If TT's approach is the reason for his improvement, couldn't Lampard's approach be the reason for the worst days of his life. Remember, Lampard paired him at times with Mount and Havertz as double 8 when Kante was injured. Sometimes Mount and Kovacic. Mount hardly maintains his position and I remember Peter Drury saying that Mount plays so high up the pitch leaving his position exposed for runners during counters. Let's not talk about Kovacic lack of positional awareness or low response. TT brought the right approach and everyone is breathing fresh air. After all, a coach's responsibility is to maximum his player's strength and hide their weaknesses

So my brother, Jorginho as a player has improved. His performance tells the tale.

Jorginho played under Sarri and as far as my memory serves me, a lot of folks here were very critical of him...He struggled with Sarri and Lampard and only looked better because Tuchel had to parked bodies behind to cover for any escorts job...

Talkjng about his passes, he has always been good with passes from his Napoli days, nothing changed...

Positional improvement? No, he has not improved any bit but you'll hardly notice as they're a lot of players covering incase of any slip up...You'd notice that it's only after a goal is scored that most folks delve into analysis of the events leading to the goal, I'd urge you to pay close attention to Jorginho when he is not recycling possession (I mean his defensive action) and you'd see that he still struggles to keep up with attacks but due to the sheer numbers behind him, in most cases than not, they manage to stop the attack...