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hoopLA:
Long tin.
When Ole gawks the Yoruba league by putting the black ball before other colored ones, they will still spin it as "progress".
All these politicians masquerading as United fans sef, they way they chant this progress, you would think we are in a ward congress or party primary.

Hehehe it's something like:

Ole! Progress!!!

Ole! Progress!!!

Ole! Progress!!!

And the chant continues, led by..........

My OleOut gang members no dey carry last...See as men carry AK come karate fight...

Tiri gbosa for my guys them...

PS: Tiri gbosa na for the 3 times the fraud bottle semis...

Expert17:


We want Simple Progress, from Mourinho's Yoruba league trophy to OLE's UCL trophy and from 2nd to 1st.

Simple progress is all we want...

timbros:
Lol.

You just convinced yourself.

Do have a great weekend...Only blemish? The loss at West Ham...

If we win the Europa League, any attempt by Ole sympathizers to celebrate will be met with their opinions of the trophy when Mourinho is involved...

If we finished 2nd, we will reminf them that Mou also did it...

To have the last laugh? Let Ole win the EPL or UCL...It's not a tall order if you ask me, just deploy the simple taktiks and we're good...

Ole, the simple one...

timbros:
Your first "it is world cup year" comment was in reply to MaziAlaye saying that Ronaldo deserve 2018 award. That's when I brought in a similar incident that happened in 2010.

Since Sneijder had a better world cup, he deserved the award because "it is world cup year". Sneijder still had a better all round year in 2010.

That's why I asked that we stop because you can't convince me otherwise neither can I do same.

When we talked Bielsa, they said if he is that good, why is he at Leeds and not a top team is the same Bielsa that is now on par with the Einstein's, Koch, Faraday and Job's of the world...

The same Bielsa you guys rubbished when we praised him and Leeds United na him una want use score cheap point? No be here, make una go do am elsewhere...

Oasis007:


Don't mind handelex, he dey do like UGM at times.

It's funny how he carefully munched it and dropped here for his goons to jump on it but when others countered, they begin to feign ignorance of their ploy...

This ESN sympathizers are about the most stupid lots I have come across...This is how foolish Northerners were cheering BH on until they became victims themselves...Na here we dey when the cry for help go start...

Queenlovely:
I thought they used Molotov cocktail




Deep down in my heart, I swear I love this.

You can't fight an ideology


The consequences is that Igbo governor's will watch how they talk, expectially the supreme Court governor.

Violence is the only language these idiots understand.

For years they have been sending igbo boys to die in maiduguri.

Hausa soldiers are not safe in the east, they can't misbehave. I see them trying to learn Igbo,

See igbo people are dangerous to play with, they are a democracy. they don't worship any king.

even the obi of onitsha knows his limit, Igbo no dey fear you,

pump action is a must for every Igbo man, have you heard an igbo man's shop was robbed?

fulani no get gun reach igbo people, we have guns, we produce it too, we respect ourselves.

pump action is different from AK-47,

when I shot someone with a pump action, the bullet shatters the bone,

See how stupid you are...

Expert17:


Play it simple and insha allah takitiks

Bielsa was most likely trying to be polite, I am quite certain he doesn't understand what pattern we play...

timbros:
That's not how I debate. Let's stick to the topic first. We are comparing the 2010 and 2018 awards. There's no point asking my opinion on other years. When we trash one, we can move to others.

Who performed better in 2010 World Cup? Messi or Sneijder?

Sneijder had a better world cup, Messi had a better all round year...

PS: My first post here was in reference to 2010 and nothing to do with 2018, don't rope me in else we look at other years the award generated controversy...

SyIvalord:
Ofcourse, anything that suits your agenda. Mr Matt Parkman.

Sure!

handelex:
Since una don turn everything here to agenda, agenda shall continue.

Tell me you had nothing in mind when you shared it here?

SyIvalord:
Oh, so you are saying Bielsa doesn’t know what he is saying? Or you think you are more knowledgeable about football than Bielsa? I thought you guys said Bielsa is the god of tactics and even Pep idolizes him? LMAO. I am not in any way surprised by your comments. Infact, I would have been surprised if you didn’t make the comment you made.


Also, the fact that you think “simple things” can’t be used in tandem to any of those styles you mentioned above says all one needs to know about your football knowledge.

Bielsa was obviously complimenting Ole and Manchester United as Doc pointed out...

timbros:
What made 2010 World Cup year different from others that Sneijder should be blatantly robbed?

Do you also have problems with the decision of the awarding body in 2013 and 2014?

Tiki taka (Possession football)...
ghen ghen pressing (High octane pressing and football all together)...
Ultra defensive football
Short passing/counter...

And then, Simple sturvs...

afrodoc:
It is still too early to tell but as a footballer he is not as good as Greenwood for instance. He is a good finisher and has excellent movement but not really good at the other aspects of the game, which means he can only play striker for the senior team and won't get any minutes at other positions. For instance, Greenwood would have been a perennial bench player in this present squad if he was not competent at RWF. Being able to play multiple positions is a good quality for a young player in a big team.

Additionally, he is so close in age to Greenwood that by the time he starts knocking on the door for the senior team Greenwood would likely be about to enter his peak years. Greenwood is the more complete player by far and if he moves to CF as most of us expect McNeill won't make it here. McNeill has better movement than Greenwood though.

Well, you're spot on but one thing he does well is score goals and if he continues, the coaches will definitely find a way to play him because he definitely guarantees goals...

Jodera:
I've even forgotten 2013 sef. I think that's the worst cos they used world cup qualifiers against Sweden to give Ronaldo that.

My opinion is that FIFA should just give this award based on merit according to assessment, instead of votes by captains and coaches of respective clubs and countries. To me it's a very stupid way of deciding a world best or balon dor winner

Methink the award should be given per position because in this age where stats rule, it is almost impossible for a midfielder or defender to win it...

Jodera:
The thing is neither messi of 2010 and modric of 2018 deserve that award. In fact modric of 2018 didn't even stand out like sneijder of 2010. Well, FIFA best and balon dor (, esp wen they merged it together) has been jokes upon jokes

2013?

quickly:
Ebere is a CAM or a 10 , chukwueze is a winger LW/RW although he plays mostly on the left.

Two different positions so what r u talking about?

On the RW...

afrodoc:
McNeill scores again. 18 goals in 18 starts.

What do you make of him? Does he stand a big chance of making it here?

KingAlabi:
It has taken him to second in the log and to the semi-finals of the Europa, I can't say the same of master class Jose Mourinho.

Oh I just remembered, he has been sacked, so much for masterclass.

Didn't Mourinho win the Europa and finish 2nd with us? What's new?

Mourinho has done his time, focus on Ole and Manchester United...

OJURONGBE1:
Going by this assertion, does Fabio Cannavaro deserves the best player Award in 2006?
Just agree that Messi benefitted from the rot & nepotism in FIFA & UEFA.

Again, I said and I quote "As is most times the case"...That's what I said, I didn't say it was always the case...

timbros:
I don't expect you to start telling me about Messi's exploits in Barcelona 2010.

According to you,



So can we stick to the 2010 World Cup?

According to you, the best player in a world cup wins it..... Was Messi the best player in 2010 World Cup to win the Ballon D'or?

Bringing Forlan into the discuss is an entirely different argument, which I can prove to you that Sneijder deserves it more, and Forlan reference is you indirectly accepting that Messi doesn't deserve it. Am I correct?

The bottom line is, if Modric deserve 2018 Ballon D'or because "it is world cup year" then Sneijder too deserve it in 2010 because "it is world cup year". BUT if Messi deserve it in 2010 for whatever achievement he had "in a world cup year" then Ronaldo deserve it too in 2018 for other achievements he had "in a world cup year". Simple.

"As is most times the case" That's the line you're arguing with, don't twist it to mean as is always the case...

In 2013, do you agree with the decision of FIFA?

afrodoc:
So you expect Bielsa to criticize Amaka and his boys the day before Ilan Meslier, Pascal Struijk, and Diego Llorente face Edinson Cavani, Marcus Rashford, and Mason Greenwood?

Clutching at straws, he will anything...

timbros:
Why do you always talk about team effort when it's Sneijder but it's individual brilliance when it's Messi? The Barca team that helped Messi to win that Ballon D'or have a certain Xavi, Iniesta and Basquest, no? Did Messi do absolutely everything on his own?

Sneijder had a terrific 2010. No doubt about that. He was phenomenal all through the season, propelling Inter to a treble and took his for to the world cup.

Sneijder won joint top scorer in the World Cup, scoring crucial goals along the way. Who will forget his double against Brazil in quarter finals? Before then, he scored and assisted Robben in a 2-1 win in the round of 16. Fast forward to semi finals, he scored in a 3-2 win over Uruguay to send Holland to the finals.

Did you watch that final? Did you see his defence splitting pass that bought Robben one on one against Casillas that Robben somehow missed? That should have been an assist for him in the final.

In a 7 game tournament, Sneidjer won MOTM 4 times.... Pray tell, how can you argue that he didn't carry Holland on his shoulder to the final?

OK let's put stats one side because I believe stats don't tell the full story. Did you really watch Sneidjer in 2010? Did you? If you do, you will notice how he dictates the tempo of matches. His passing ability. His shooting technique etc....

Sneidjer met this same Messi in UCL semi final that year. He scored and assisted in the 3-1 first leg win where the tie was arguably won. What did Messi do over 2 legs? Sneidjer even went on to assist one of the goals in the final vs Bayern.

Guy. Don't even try to argue that 2010 Ballon D'or disgrace.

Sneidjer was clearly robbed of that award.

Messi stood out, whether scoring, assisting, dribbling or creating chances.

In the UCL, you could pick Zanetti or Milito or Lucio or Samuel or Etoo as the most important Inter Player and wouldn't be wrong...It's like the Chelsea team of 2012...

In the world cup, Forlan stole the show...Now, if Forlan played for Inter that season, he'd have won the world's best...Sneijder had a good season way above his standard and that's why everyone was hands in the air but he was not the best player that season, far from it...

At this point, let's just stick to our respective opinions as you’ll never see past the robbery of Sneijder and I'll never accept he was the best player in the world in 2010...

afrodoc:
You dey look am like Jega, abi?

Well it is good to have a balance of opinions here, we should just not let it degenerate into personal attacks as it often does.

Me personally, I see a hard limit to what Amaka can achieve with the players we have and are likely to acquire.

Same here...The Europa League presents a perfect opportunity for him to buy time but if he fails then I expect the board to do the needful...

afrodoc:
handelex you would make a great propagandist.

Leave am, I dey use one eye look am.

timbros:
We are getting somewhere.

If Modric was pivotal for Madrid, was Sneijder not pivotal for Inter? But that's by the way first because "it is world cup year" so let's focus on world cup.

Did Sneijder not lead Holland all the way to a 2nd place finish? Where did Messi, the winner of Ballon D'or ended his world cup dream in this world cup year?

That Dutch team also had Robben, RVP, Huntelaar, Van Der Vaart, Kuyt amongst others and their run to the final was more or less down to a collective team effort and not necessarily down to the brilliance of Sneijder...How many people do you hear talking about Sneijder? But the world won't forget Xavi, Iniesta, Modric and Kross in a hurry...

If there's a player you must associate with the 2010 world cup, that one player is Diego Forlan and not Sneijder...

OJURONGBE1:
If this basis hold water, then Fabio Cannavaro has no business winning the 2006 Best player of the year.

In 2006, Zidane would have won it if not for that infamous headbutt...