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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:33pm On Feb 14, 2021
What is Ole always watching in the sideline? Do you need to see a replay of every incident to protest?

Just protest, it unsettles the ref.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:20pm On Feb 14, 2021
Jesus! Is it not too early?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 2:53pm On Feb 14, 2021
Expert17:
Athletico and Juventus are playing pattern close to Mourinho's..... you must not play like pep or that attacking before you win trophies.

Allow Jose get his back 4 and GK sorted, check out all his previous club success.
You deliberately choose not to get the point...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:54pm On Feb 14, 2021
Expert17:
Well, he has won 12 out of 15 finals playing this same style.
Football has evolved...Do I need to explain in detail for you to understand?

Watch Pep and you'd see a manager who trust his method yet has adapted to the demands of the EPL hence his success in the league.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:52pm On Feb 14, 2021
handelex:
It's a pity some so called United fans actually wants us to lose today so they can watch the thread burn. shocked
Who be that?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:47pm On Feb 14, 2021
Expert17:
Nice points, but Mourinho wasnt appointed for good footie (no club will sack Pochetino for Jose based on style of play).....he was appointed to win any type of trophy.
8 out of 10 times, the team playing the better football will win compared to the other team defending deep...

I trust you understand that good football is not all about passing the ball around but being effective in your play like Bayern...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:15pm On Feb 14, 2021
I am not expecting Mou to win the league with Spurs but I expect them to be more positive in their play.

Mourinho is a great coach, his method has brought him so much success but ATM, football has evolved...Now, the best form of defence is attack rather than defend as was the case a while back...

I have seen Spurs go on the defensive against Leicester, Everton and the likes only to start attacking when they go a goal or two down and everytime I find myself asking why they didn't start the game on the attack.

Son, Kane and Berghwin/Moura is as good a front 3 as any other trio in the league. Mou should attack more...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:19pm On Feb 14, 2021
afrodoc2:
I no dey even really watch West Brom play. Who are their danger men?
A certain Pereira and Diangana...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:25am On Feb 14, 2021
I hope e win today...

We are playing West Brom but after wetin Sheffield do us, I don't even know what to expect...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:23am On Feb 14, 2021
BikeMan:
What about you? You don’t have the players to play exciting football?
Oga my position on Manchester United is well documented and in English...

Go check it out...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:22am On Feb 14, 2021
Joezinho:
We have more negatives then positives under Ole, 4 semi finals lost, out of UCL in group stages can't even reach a final, bottler.
I shared my opinion of Mou...

My position on Ole is well documented here...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 11:20am On Feb 14, 2021
Expert17:
A negative coach won't have Mournho' s records and trophies.

He is not the first Top manager that went through bad period, Van Gaal, Arsene Wenger, Ancelloti, etc
Football is a constantly evolving sport...

Nowadays, it's team who play high pressing Quick football who stand a better chance of winning...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 10:27am On Feb 14, 2021
Spurs should be playing better. They at least have players who are good enough to play exciting attacking football but Mou will rather they sit back and counter...

Mourinho is just too negative...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
Trevor012:
This one is already telling us how good kounde is grin grin
Please carry your stupidity comot from my mention...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 6:04pm On Feb 12, 2021
dammywapes:
How many top teams if i may ask?
Madrid, Barca, Atletico or when they play in Europe...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:57pm On Feb 12, 2021
dammywapes:
Ming’s make a great block against arsenal which will make the match to end in draw it’s not the first blocks from him and again this kounde man utd don’t really know much about him cos how many pple watch la liga talkless of watching sevilla but for mings he is well known.

Note : I’m not saying man utd should sign him but to me Ming’s is clear of kounde
You have not seen much of Kounde yet you feel Mings is clear...

I might not watch all of Sevilla games but Kounde has always looked very good especially when I have watched him against top teams.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:44pm On Feb 12, 2021
dammywapes:
He has more clean sheet than our so called united center back. You can google it if you doubting me
How is that down to him alone?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:33pm On Feb 12, 2021
dammywapes:
He was there last season when they nearly relegate he was one of their best player don’t say what you are not sure of. Ming’s is a good center back.
He is good for that level...That guy is error prone.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:27pm On Feb 12, 2021
handelex:
Really?
Mings? Worth the hype? Game on another level?

Villa fans don't believe the hype sef.

undecided
Hahaha

Na Villa season dey deceive am...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:49pm On Feb 12, 2021
handelex:
Of the four mentioned players, only Tyrone Mings dey trend on Twitter. People dey vex gan oo.
I don laugh tire...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:37pm On Feb 12, 2021
Oasis007:
Manchester United will prioritise signing a new centre-back in the summer. Solskjær is keen to sign a partner for Harry Maguire with Jules Koundé, Tyrone Mings, Raphaël Varane and David Carmo on a shortlist.

- Rob Dawson ESPN
Abeg I no want see that Mings here...

I haven't watched David Carmo...

Varane without Ramos is suspect and I am not sure he still has the desire to fight for trophies because he has won it all...

Kounde is very good, I will like him here...

E be like Upamecano dey go Bayern.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 12:19am On Feb 12, 2021
timay:
Lol. Someone like Mourinho won't care, trust me grin

And a lot of other senior coaches with clout too won't care, especially if the team is getting result regardless, of which United has been doing , with or without pogba, yet Solsjaer didn't freeze him out.

Good thing is that, Pogba is paying the coach back in good faith though, by actually putting in the work during matches
I think some senior players messed Lampard up...

Alli might lead an uprising against Mou...Time will tell...

The truth is that we have long gone past that Fergie era where a manager is in charge 100%
Politics › Re: Court Sacks Ebonyi PDP Caretaker Committee by patrickmuf(m): 7:55pm On Feb 11, 2021
Indispensable85:
Umahi wants to be controlling Apc and pdp in Ebonyi state. Lol...... Politicians!
He learnt from Wike...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 7:03pm On Feb 11, 2021
timay:
Lol. Unfortunately for him , no one gives a shit anymore about whatever comes out of his mouth. Whether Pogba Leaves or stay, everyone at the club now knows that we are past that pogba main man stage.

If Ole was a vindictive coach, he would have done more damage to his client by turning him into a fringe player , but Ole somehow sees the good in every player and judge them by their abilities and individualities
Turn such an expensive players to a fringe player?

Even the owners no go accept that kind thing...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:56pm On Feb 11, 2021
Leyqute:
I think it’s a personnel thing. The AM role will be easier for VDB if he has a younger Mata to play with - someone who will make (and complete) difficult passes and then move to receive the return pass. The two of them can create chances together.

At the same time, a huge chunk of VdB’s problems will be solved if he doesn’t shy away so much from the ball.
True...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 4:35pm On Feb 11, 2021
Leyqute:
Dude. Have you seen my posts where I said Ole has to make good use of VDB?

It’s a two-way street. The coach has to find a way to get the best out of the player AND the player also has to do his best to fit in and perform.

It doesn’t make sense to change your whole system for just one player if it will affect other players and won’t immediately guarantee wins.
If I recall, after the West Ham game, I suggested Ole should build a system that fits VDB so that when ever he plays instead of Bruno, the team knows its playing a different system...

Ole favors 4 2 3 1 with the AMF predominantly Bruno. If VDB must step in for Bruno, Ole should find a system tailor-made for VDB that's if he can't adapt his game to suit fit perfectly in that Bruno role...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:55pm On Feb 11, 2021
Leyqute:
Was Coutinho a great talent at Liverpool before leaving for Barcelona?

Was Kaka a fantastic player before leaving for Madrid? Robbie Keane from Tottenham to Liverpool nko? Didn’t he regain his mojo when he returned to Tottenham?

It doesn’t matter how good you are. If you play in a system that doesn’t suit your style and you don’t adjust, your performances will be woeful.

This has nothing to do with Ole in or out. It’s just pure fact.

Know this and know peace.
Just to clarify so that someone won't think I am asking for the head of Ole when I said the coaching staff should work with VDB to improve his play. From what we all have said of him, I think if VDB just takes his time more on the ball and make runs towards to ball to better influence the play, he will be better...I think he can adjust his game and hopefully, the coaches will help him...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:33pm On Feb 11, 2021
KingAlabi:
I get your point

But I just don't think pull applies for young players that much

Because most times they all need playing time before that big move.
Na this fear of playing time go make them look elsewhere...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:21pm On Feb 11, 2021
KingAlabi:
Madrid pull is because of their European triumph of cause

But I was referring to the if a young player flops other young players would go there stuff you said.

This is not dependent on pull don't you think?
Madrid and to some extent Barcelona are strong exceptions...Those guys have wasted many talented players yet they still have the strongest pull...Most players dream of representing Madrid and will do anything to join Madrid...

Trust me, if Madrid were the ones chasing Sancho, baba for hand in transfer request or go on strike...

I won't advise a young player to join Chelsea because they rather prefer ready made top players...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by patrickmuf(m): 3:15pm On Feb 11, 2021
raumdeuter:
Europa cup 2019, Hazard was the named/voted player of the tournament but he barely played any group game

I remember every minute from Bayern 2013, semi final and final match yet I cant be bothered about what happened in our group match vs Bate Borisov or Lille
If you Bayern had lost those group games, we won't be talking about the treble...

Hazard didn't play but someone played and delivered the goods. If the person didn't, Hazard and Belgium wouldn't have made the second round...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 3:13pm On Feb 11, 2021
KingAlabi:
Honestly I don't agree with you on the bolded

Let me use real Madrid as a case study.
Madrid has the pull that no other team has. Madrid can go trohyless for 7 years yet top players will still queue up to join Madrid...

Ask yourself, do we have the same pull in the transfer market? If we go after the same players 9 times out of 10, the player will choose Madrid even if we have been more successful in the period we squared up...
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m):
KingAlabi:
Just for correction purposes

2019/2020
He bottled
UCL- to leipzig
FA cup - to Norwich

2020/2021
He bottled
FA cup - to Everton


He has bottled 3 cups so far of which he didn't reach a QF in each
Thank you
I am dead sure if someone else respond to this and drags Ole, you guys will say Mourinho fans are bitter and all what not but this is you talking Mourinho here...

Like I always say, Ole will not be judged with how bad Mou perforns with Spurs but how he (Ole) performs with Manchester United in comparison to the period where Mou held sway at Old Trafford...

Ole has to win something bigger or same trophies Mou won with us to ever be rated ahead of Mou as long as Manchester United is concerned...

This is coming from someone who isn't a fan of Mou but the truth has got to be laid bare...

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