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raumdeuter:
Performance in knockouts carry more weight than Performance in groups

You have heard people say Messi did not score a goal in knockout just group stage, have you have anyone being criticized for not scoring in groups just knockouts?

SyIvalord:
It’s also on record that Lampard spoke with Werner, Ziyech and Havertz to convince them to join Chelsea. But even before Lampard was sacked, news came out that he never wanted them but they were forced on him while the Declan rice he wanted was never given to him.

SyIvalord:
How do you know Ole recommended that VDB be signed? He told you on WhatsApp? For all we know, one of the Glazers might have just liked him and decided to buy him the way some club owners like to do. Infact, all the signs point to the fact that Ole might not have wanted VDB.

afrodoc2:
Wahala dey o.

Patickmuf you dey vex these days o.

Capaldi:
You just keep typing long sentences up and down with little substance. Performance in the knockout stage will always outweighs that of the group stages. United crashing out of the group stage is like I said a failure and a poor example to use.

Capaldi:
Somebody actually believes performances in the group stage and knock stage in a cup competition are equal. It can only be ment.

Capaldi:
I called out your example of using United failure to leave the group stage. I don't know where you are adding things from.

Capaldi:
You are just beating around the bush with many words. The group stage is a formality for all top teams in major competition. Germany/Spain/Madrid/Barca getting knocked out in the group stage is a failure similarly no one will praised them for leaving the group stage. Performances in the knockout stages of any competition is the koko.

Capaldi:
What a terrible example. All big teams are expected to come out of the group stage. The knock stage is where the main competition starts. Your team dropping out of the group stage shows failure.

raumdeuter:
Not just 1 match, crucial semi vs Barcelona the iddiot got red carded when his team was down 2 goals at Nou Camp

Very useless player that John Terry

World cup he was an embarassment

KingAlabi:
Joezinho

How many cups has your MCM bottled for Tottenham now?

eph12:
There's a desire to improve and do better among some of our players while others can't be bothered

eph12:
Lmao you people are hard to please o

LostMyZeal:
Mehnn ...this is hilarious



I get your point sir.

Leyqute:
I know you asked this as a rhetorical question, or to push your normal agenda but I'm going to look past that.

We actually need all-round tactics, not in attack alone. Afterall, this same defence was among those who conceded the least number of goals last season. A lot of the goals we have conceded this season are due to player errors - panic, lack of positional discipline, or just plain brainfarts. The way the team is set up also caused some goals.

The coaches should do their best to reduce those player errors. Let the players learn their weakness and play to their strengths. For instance, Fred caused us at least 2 goals last season by being dispossessed easily whenever he gets the ball near his goal. We haven't had such incidence this season. The players won't pass to him if they see an opposition player close to him in a dangerous area, and whenever they pass to him, there's always someone available who he can easily give a one-touch pass to.

The players need to minimize their errors and the coach needs to do more.

Android17:
This does not mean that United has scored 79 goals this season. It only means that the games Man United played in have recorded 79 goals (49 for 30 against). For e.g the 3-3 draw against Everton had 6 goals.

Expert17:

Leyqute:
olE doEs nOt hAve taKTIkSS

handelex:
Ok Patrick, tell me you didn't like that post?

handelex:
Any technically sound player will flop under Ole..




This criticism is no longer objective, Oleouters are beginning to sound like trolls.

SyIvalord:
Not everything can be taught. VDB simply cannot play defence splitting passes and we need our AM to be able to play defence splitting passes.

It will take time to change his positional play and he should be the one to focus on training to be better


It’s on VDB to make sure he comes good, not on the club. If he doesn’t come good, he will be promptly sold. This is Manchester United, not Ajax or Dortmund where improving young footballers is the main goal.

You are one of those who are not patient with the coach and you want him to win trophies immediately. How can he win trophies with a player like VDB who doesn’t even posses the qualities we need from a player that plays in his position?

How many clubs have ever won titles with players who are still being taught how to play in their position?

If VDB wants to be a big part of the team, then he should hit the training ground and train hard. It’s on him to improve himself. I am sure he knows what the coach wants from him and I am sure he knows he is not doing what the coach wants him to do.

I am not saying VDB will not come good. I think he will get better over time. But there is no space for him in the first team now.

timay:
Well, Bruno wasn't highly rated as a wonder boy like those Ajax boys. He was below the radar with minimal hype and most of the big clubs didn't rate him that much the way they will rate the likes of VDB or De jong as per the he's not a flashy kind of player. Even Totenham dey price am like garri with Sporting Lisbon then and wanted to take him on loan with option to buy, just to show you that they didn't rate him that much. Even us as a club wasn't that serious about him. It only took us to have our season turning into shit before we decided to take a risky on him, which paid off.

afrodoc2:
It will take time cos you can't correct a habit of 10years in 5 months, and i don't think he himself trusts is own long passing ability. His fast interplay is nice but he needs to mix it up and hold the ball land make defence splitting passes as well.

timay:
Lol, I now see why Madrid didn't go far VDB when they wanted to buy him before. He's definitely a false AM. I mean since I've been watching most renowned AM in the world since the day I've been watching this game, I've never seen anyone play that role in that manner that VDB wants to play the role. It's total bullshit.

Even Bruno makes runs for passes sometimes too, but he doesn't stay up front and make runs all day expecting passes. He knows he has to drop to collect ball and make things happen for his front three

I also now see the reason why the Netherlands coaches often opt to play Wijnaldum as the AM instead of VDB in most of their serious games.

afrodoc2:
He should not be waiting for those vertical passes all the time. After all somehow the ball gets to Bruno from this same McFred and he makes things happen from there. The problem is with VDB IMO. He should spend less time making runs into the box waiting for vertical passes and more time helping to build up play for others and make those vertical passes himself.

As a 10 he should be creating for Cavani, Rashy, Martial NOT expecting McFred to create for him. Bruno and Pogba pick and choose when to make those runs, he should too.

Let us even forget the lack of McFred vertical passes for a second. What does he do when he gets the ball? He passes it to the nearest man whether it be Fred, AWB, Maguire or DDG. He does not turn and look to see if Rashy or Cavani are making good runs so HE can make vertical passes for them to score. Do you know how many runs by our forwards he has wasted because he refused to turn and look forward with the ball?

He wants McFred to make vertical passes to him, the same vertical passes he refuses to give Cavani and co.