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engrelvis:
leave dem bro.can u really compare mane of last 2seasons to dis present one? Let me nt talk of firmino

The season has barely started with international breaks here and there coupled with COVID-19 restrictions...Give it time bro...Mane is still Mane, he is going to make you eat your words...

Oasis007:
Injury Updates;

Jones still out, hopefully gonna come back next Month.

Bailly back on his Feet, he's doing light training already.

Shaw still out, but good news is - Telles is tested negative of Covid-19.

Martial and Lindelof are suffering of back pains, hopefully gonna be available for the Match.

Rashford is injured, but he's getting healed already.

Cavani ain't infected by Suarez, thus he's available and fit to play.

Jones, hopefully? Baba be calming down o! That fraud will never be fit as long as the alerts keeps dropping...Terminate his contract and watch him stay fit for a while...A certain Wilshere was collecting weekly wages at Arsenal until they got tired, just then he recovered and was balling but they had none of it and kicked him out, West Ham fell for the trick, singed him on 100k weekly and almost immediately baba went back to the hospital...A lot of those guys are frauds, only in it for the money and nothing else...

schurley:
If Grealish was to be in that Liverpool team don't you think his stats will be decent, Aston Villa was piss poor last, the reason for his poverty stricken no, for Instance Ben Chilwell as equal is goal and assist tally of last season in just 6 or 7 games, if Grealish is in an attack dominant team his numbers will be robust nd rotund

Well, you never can tell...By next summer, I expect him to make the move.

Sniper4real:
Greenwood and rashford are tall to some extent, but do they have jump power and can they nod effectively

Let them put in good balls first before we start complaining about our forwards...

Before his injury, Shaw recorded 2 assist or thereabout and that's down to the quality of the delivery even though the one is the UCL was bad but that Cross for Bruno against Everton was inch perfect.

engrelvis:
Mane n Grealish

Mane and Son because they are far more effective (Talking about numbers and the fact that they can play anywhere across the front line without a drop in quality)

Wike is a big problem too, his style can be annoying...You don't address your fellow Governors like they're your appointees...

Imagine Wike as President, they'll be no opposition...

In all, none of them should get near Aso rock unless we (masses) are still blind...

Hedonini:
So what exactly will be his motivation for cross carpeting to the APC? For Umahi we already know. What's in it for Ayade?

Ayade is in a running battle with the NASS members one of whom is Wike's close paddy...In the run up to the primaries to produce a candidate to represent the party in the bye election to replace the late Sen. Rose Oko of Cross River North senatorial district, rumors have it that Ayade projected his stooge to hold sway for him until 2023 where he will retire to the senate however, a certain House of Reps members backed by his national assembly colleagues in the state and to a larger extent, Wike and most likely Sen. Liyel stood up to Ayade...As it stands, the matter is before the courts to decide who is the authentic candidate of the party.

I suspect if Ayade losses out, he'll have no option but to decamp to the APC to save his political career...

I hope this helps...

Foden is such a joy to watch...No time for ball romance, just business...

Meanwhile, England should be in contention for the Euros, mad team they've got but I trust Southgate to ensure everything goes south for them...

Mrviktor:
Gealish better pass Sancho..

No long cap.

Ice watched England last 3 games. Nd almost all Aston Villa matches..

That boy is good on the ball.

Sancho is hit nd miss

Iceland have been very bad though.

schurley:
Prove it, Ronaldo had more best goal ratio for the time spent in the Laliga, that should tell you something. bring out their stats.

The records are there, check it up yourself...

I am done with this...What is it sef? Lol

Karleb:
For argument purposes, do you believe (or agree) that Messi (or Ronaldo) would win a Ballon d'or if he played for Athletico Madrid for 4 years at his prime?

I really don't know where you are dragging this thing to...

Someone said Ronaldo outscored Messi in Spain and I corrected him that he did not pointing to the fact that from when Ronaldo joined Madrid until he left, Messi outscored him but you came in and said Messi started his career in Spain in a bid to say he had an advantage but again, I drew you attention to the fact that from when Ronaldo who was entering his prime joined Madrid all through his stay, Messi still outscored him...I went further to state that Ronaldo's record wouldn't be so fantastic if he started out at Madrid and it's true...Do you how Messi stat would've looked like if he joined Barcelona as an accomplished player at 23 or thereabout? It would have been crazy as he'd have scored way more goals compared to his appearances...but again, you replied that Messi benefited from playing with big players and in a big team but when I drew your attention to the fact that Sporting are no pushover in Portugal and had some of the best players in the league playing for them you are back asking me this question...

Guy, Messi was hardly ever a regular in the first 2 years of his break through and that was because there was a certain Guily in Barcelona. Do you know those late sub ins affects a players goal to game ratio? Or you think if Ronaldo was a Madrid product he'd just come in and send Robben and co to the bench as a teenager? He would have had minutes mostly off the bench which would have affected his goal to game ratio...It's a fact...

That Messi is less than 40 goals behind Ronaldo who is 2 years older points to his goal scoring prowess...Do you know that if you compared the number of goals per minutes played between the two, you'd start questioning why Ronaldo is referred to as a goal machine and not Messi who statically is the better scorer...If I stretch the argument further into assist, dribbling, close control etc. You'd be forced to tender an apology for daring to undermine the Argentine maestro...

Karleb:
Not when you are talented. Messi and Ronaldo broke into Manchester United and Barcelona easily.

How big a club is Lisbon compared to United or Barcelona as at then?

Just imagine Ronaldo starting his career at Barcelona at 16 and Messi starting his career at Lisbon at 17.

The point is that Sporting was and remains one of the biggest club in Portugal so, whatever advantage you think Messi benefited from playing in Barcelona, Ronaldo also had same advantage...

Karleb:
Oga, you are the one feeling attacked here.

I'm not for or against anyone in this argument but let us argue without sentiments.


Ronaldo started his career at Lisbon at age 17. Libson is an average team compared to Barcelona and Manchester.


Messi started his career at Barcelona. Joined first team at age 16. When he did, he was playing with the one of the best team of that time.

Ronaldo didn't join Manchester until he was 18.

I'm not hyping anyone. The records are there for all to see.

Sporting are also a big club in Portugal so, your point that Barcelona is a big team doesn't quite cut it...Need I remind you that it is more difficult for a youngster to break through a star studded team.

Karleb:
Ronaldo started his career in sporting libson.

Messi started his career in Barcelona.

Remember that the next time you bring up this 2 years older argument.

Ronaldo arrived Spain at the peak of his powers whilst Messi started his career in Spain...

Next time you want to hype his scoring record in Spain, do well to start comparing from the time he joined La Liga...

If he had started his career in Madrid, do you think his record would have looked as good as it is? Considering at a younger age, he wasn't scoring much...

You are always quick to counter without trying to understand someone else's point of view...

schurley:
1. Ronaldo Cl goals tally in Real was just slightly higher than his figure in United, compared to his astronomical goal increase from 20+ in the Epl to consistence 40+ goals in the Laliga

2. You are the one very clueless and still arrogant with with your cluessness, Real Madrid was in shambles before the arrival of Ronaldo in 2009, infact they were Perennial Uefa Champions league Round of 16 or Quater finalist team at best, despite their galatico signing and Owambe unveiling party, with little to nothing of domestic league sucess. Meanwhile Manyoo were on steroids winning the league three times in a row, with back to back Champions league final appearances. So that narrative you want to paint will not fly.

3 The premier league is the most competitive league thereby difficult for attackers to be pulling outrageous nubers. Ronaldo proved Laliga is easy. He scored most of his goals in Laliga, in the time frame he scored more goals than any other Laliga player... Ronaldo has the best goal ratio in Laliga history.. He left with the most hatrick until Messi recently broke his record, he was the first player to reach 200 goals and 300 goals in Laliga history... it was only in Laliga he scored more goals than the number of games played. 60%-70% of his career goal came in the osho free league, you guys always use Messi to brag about.

4. So no one gave Ronaldo goat shout too, Sir Ferguson, Diego Simeone, Maradona, Zidane, Mbappe, Halaand, and the didn't idolize Cr7 and called him the best?.... I guess the brain is just for aesthetics and decoration if we can't argue for or against with sailent point. My opinion does not matter but yours is the judge and jury?

For the time spent in Spain, Messi outscored him.

Just to point it out, Ronaldo is 2 years older than Messi so, for Messi to be a couple of goals off his overall career total whilst having more assist shows you how great a player he is...

Karleb:
Your opinion is your opinion, I have nothing against that.

I am only concerned about your previous post I quoted. You accused others of being sentimental then in the second paragraph, you made a sentimental comment.




The only way to know if Messi will perform outside La Liga is for Messi to leave LA Liga.
I sincerely don't blame whoever thinks Messi will not perform outside La Liga because he has been abysmal in the national team. That might be a strong determinant.

When he seemed like he was joining City in 5he summer, I remember vividly how scared folks here and on Chelsea thread were...That alone tells me that a whole lot of guys know he can't lift anything team's chances of winning not to talk of an already fantastic City team.

Karleb:
You accuse others of what you also do.

This is talk isn't about Martial who is obviously my favorite, it's about Messi in comparison with other greats for I am of the opinion that the only other greats that can hold their own against him includes; Ronaldo De Lima, Pele and Maradona and I cited their football intelligence, dribbling abilities, goal scoring (bar Maradona) and ability to create chances almost at will...

You can't dismiss Messi on the basis of the fact that he played all of his football at Barcelona when we all celebrate the likes of Totti, Gerard, Terry, Scholes, Giggs, Xavi etc...It is even funny when you consider the fact that whilst in LA Liga, the likes of Aguero, Silva, Cesc and others before them didn't do a quarter of what Messi did...

David Silva, Aguero, Torres, Costa and to drag it, Michu came in and did very well in the EPL yet it's Messi that will flop...Some of you are way too sentimental and hold extreme view points that makes it impossible for some of us to hold a rational discourse with y'all...

If you watch football and understand the dynamics of the game yet you think Messi isn't the G. O. A. T. or is in contention to be referred to as the greatest that ever did it, then you need to see Unlimited22...

TrebleChamp:
I don't do stats sorry, i base my judgement on what i is see players do on the pitch. Go look for full clips of Diego Amando Maradona matches for both Argentina and Napoli and cure yourself of this ignorance. Messi can only dream of what Maradona did on the pitch...

You no know ball...See how you dey yarn bullocks with pride.

Trump meltdown...

BlueAngel444:
is Messi waiting for a perfect team to even win copa america haba. And the Argentina NT has had very good players. The current Portuguese team is currently far better than the quality of the ones that WON title in years past

Messi will only be remembered like every other goal scoring machine and a legend in Spanish club football.

If Ronaldo mistakingly win UCL with Juventus. Ronaldo will over surpass him

Story...Messi is the G. O. A. T.

TrebleChamp:
We wouldn't know cos Messi didn't leave Barcelona. I remember Robinho counting his legovers in La liga making players like Puyol eat grass everytime they meet, he came to Mancity and EPL overwhelmed him. Messi is a football great, but not in the league those i listed earlier imo. He isn't even regarded as the greatest Argentinian player of all time sef.

Only R9, Pele and Maradona can stand toe to toe with Messi when it comes to playing football...The aforementioned played football with a level of intelligence never seen coupled with breathtaking dribbling skills and goal scoring (except Maradona though)

TrebleChamp:
Na injury stop R9 from being the best player ever, dude was far better than what we see today. Messi wey no fit inspire his national team to win major tournament can't be compare to R9, Ronaldo came out of a 2 years serious ankle injury to inspire Brazil to win the 2002 KoreaJapan World Cup and was top scorer in the turnament. R9 is football legend, but Injury recked his awesome football career. As for Messi i would only rate him a Barcelona legend imo, cos he didn't win any major trophy with is National team nor test himself elsewhere like the other greats of Ronald9, Cr7, Zidane, Ronaldinho but to name a few.

Football is football whether you excelled in your national team or club...

I don't subscribe to the idea that R9 or CR7 or any other great is better than Messi because they played for different teams. If Aguero, David Silva, Torres, Fabregas and others before them left Spain to England and still dominated, then Messi would have totally shattered all the records in the EPL in his prime. Imagine Messi playing for this Manchester City team or Manchester United's team in 2008...

Talking about inspiring national teams to victory, I don't know if you actively followed football in 2002 because that Brazilian team was mad. People just overrate the Argentine national team because of their big name attackers but easily forget that Argentina has a shit midfield and defense...I will take the current Portuguese team a billion times over Argentina...

Oasis007:


Shaw is partying with Jones right now.

Oasis007:
He's being replaced already by Guilherme Arana.

Any news on Shaw?

Oasis007:
Alex Telles tested positive again..... Dem use Covid-19 swear for am?!

I thought I saw him on the bench for Brazil...

Nice one. I like Ethiopia. So unproblematic

Not anymore...

R9 is the only other player that can hold his own against Messi when it comes to football in general...He scores, dribbles and creates chances at will.

I still rate Messi just a bit higher cos of his longevity but prime R9 was just as good...

Godx:
Patrickmuf won't like this lol.

Hehehe This guy erh!

The only reason why the South can't stand up to the North is this supremacy fight between the Yorubas and Igbos. Why exactly is it so difficult for you guys to come together and put up a good fight against Northern dominance?

This fight is affecting the South, you guys should put your differences behind so the South can speak with one voice.

Worse off is seeing idiots here on Nairaland who should know better towing the same line that has held us back.

KingAlabi:
Why Atlanta no dey give our boy small game time Na

I just tire for them...

melodyogonna:
Lol, the new Messi wey get €150M price tag

Na Greenwood them carry for head but their own Asensio is turning out to be the real fraud...