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Eph12 and 96forever, I think it's down to the system. I noted here before when we had McTonimay and Fred in midfield that they're hardly go past the CM to press and it's the same thing with Pogba and Matic.

Ole should do we to coordinate our play, we need to press as a unit and attack the same way...

lekkie073:
if we were not able to rise to this position, you would not have been nursing the thought.

Well, I want to be optimistic about our qualifying. Either we win or draw.

. If we lose, Chelsea self go lose. Sure banker ni

Amen!!!

lekkie073:
the same people that complained about van gaal are the ones that complained about mou... Most are still the ones complaining about Ole gunnar.


We can't keep going back to square one everytime just because a particular manager is not delivering top performances.

Well, I have no qualms if Ole stays on but we need to play in the UCL next season.

sylvalord:
To be honest I don’t see Lampard winning the title with Chelsea unless he improves the defence. It is the defence that wins trophies. Liverpool and Madrid have proven that this season

Well, I expect them to invest in their defense and possibly their midfield before the close of the window...Signing Ziyech and Werner for less than 100m leaves them in a strong position to sign more players.

sylvalord:
You are feeling? Okay Pheels Mr producer! I also feel that with more investment, Ole will dominate the league.

Okay bro.

In all, I hope we at least leave the King Power Stadium with a point on Sunday because I can't stomach the pain of missing out on the UCL when we have come this far...

lekkie073:
did you equally expected us to collect a maximum of 12 points from the 4 games against Chelsea and mancity this season?

I didn't, I gave Ole the props for the performance of the team then however, it does not stop me from criticizing him when we falter...

Van Gaal won us the FA Cup, did it stop some of you from calling for his head? How about Mourinho? Why then do you guys think Ole shouldn't be questioned? Is it because he is a club legend or what exactly?

Before success of last season, Klopp reached the UEL final with a far worse Liverpool team.

sylvalord:
Patrick please stop the double standard. How much did pep spend before winning those trophies and why doesn’t pep’s team have any sort of longevity despite spending so much?

Watching Man City when Pep first joined, I immediately realized that with more investment, Pep was going to dominate the league...

It's the same feeling I am feeling seeing Lampard especially looking at the quality of players Chelsea have signed and are linked to. Werner, Ziyech and most likely Havertz...

eph12:
This is what I responded to here Patrick. I was trying to remind you about other games, not just the Sheffield game. I am not countering your other points

Okay, I didn't think it was necessary to include those games because I expect us to win those games.

sylvalord:
Mata? Are you taking the piss?

How about others? Or better still, do you honestly think Ole has managed the players well considering the obvious fatigue?

Oasis007:


That's not how Success works at the bolded. You've got to pay close Attention to your Competitions Bruh.

What are the Circumstances surrounding Chelsea then if I may ask? Banned from buying right?! And how has Lamps faired better than OGS? H2H is 3 against 1 in a single Season Bruh.

Oh! Arteta is doing well for dropping to 10th from 9th. Losing a lowly spot to a lowly Team.

If Ole didn't spend a dime in the transfer market, I can guarantee you that we'd be sitting in mid table...

If we are fatigued, is it my fault? Fred and McSauce held their own when Pogba was out injured and we didn't have Bruno.

Ighalo was signed so Martial can be rested but post Lockdown, bar the FA Cup game vs Norwich, Ighalo has hardly started as Martial has barely rested.

We have Mata who can deputize for Bruno but Bruno has hardly had a rest even when we are in a comfortable position.

Ole has not managed the players well, he takes the blame.

eph12:
Why? Aren't they all winnable games? Or you want to talk about only the ones we dropped points?

Oga, there's nothing special in beating Bournemouth, Aston Villa and Crystal Palace, no coach will get props for winning against those teams when you coach Manchester United but when you lose against them, expect criticism because the odds favors a win. I hope you understand now.

Oasis007:
Bruh, these are Excuses to nail the Team and it's handlers. Are we immune to Injuries, loss of forms, tactical setbacks - coz we're united?!

What happens to Chelsea? Why ain't they capitalize on Leicester woes? Chelsea pre and post project restart still locked down in 4th. We were 2 Goals ahead of Chelsea, but it's damn 15 Goals difference margin NOW!

Arsenal is down to 10th ffs! Why Arteta ain't capitalizing as well?! Let's be fair pls.

What's my business with Chelsea and Arsenal? I care less if they relegate so you don't expect me to use their performance to judge our team.

But if you want us to go on details, then I assure you Lampard has done a great job considering the circumstances surrounding the club when he joined. Arteta too is doing well and it's obvious that with serious investment, he can build something great.

eph12:
We had a good game against Bournemouth too. We were almost undone by some stupid individual mistakes

I didn't want to talk about Bournemouth and Aston Villa as those are two winnable games.

Oasis007:


For goodness sake, live Football ain't the same with PS. United is still a work in progress. You and I know it, but don't wanna accept it.

Barcelona lost at home to handover Spanish League to Madrid, with few Matches remain. Manchester City also lost to some small Clubs, yet all Blames are on United - never to lose a Match.

We are no longer in the Era of Sir Alex. Football is evolving, it's becoming more competitive and next Season gonna be extremely challenging for United.

Leeds is back with a seasoned Manager. Wolves and Sheffield are proven to be stubborn already. Mou will have a full Season with Spurs, same as Ancelotti with Everton and Arteta with Arsenal.

Let's be more realistic pls. How many standard Players we have now, compare to rest Teams in Top 6?!

My guy, Barcelona fans are not happy, they're even demanding for the head of their Board. Ernesto Valverde won LA Liga back to back but was fired for his failure in the UCL, Pep won the league cup and his successes over the past 2 seasons is enough to cut him some slack. Poch was sacked even after playing in the UCL final last season.

I don't want to go on about the amount of money we have spent. What exactly are we rebuilding? The Tower of Babel?

sylvalord:
One can argue that fatigue was the main reason we drew those games though.

Well, fair point but then, those are winnable games and fans have the right to be angry because if we have won either of the games, Sunday would've been inconsequential as we'd have already qualified.

Folks who are angry at the coach know that in recent time, we have always failed when it mattered most thus Sunday could swing either way, a situation that would have been avoided if we got 6 or 4pts from those fixtures rather than 2.

Oasis007:


Baba dropped Excuse to exonerate Roger's poor performance post lockdown performance with Leicester.

You obviously didn't understand my point of view, you made a post implying that we have closed the gap on our rivals post COVID-19 which in turn means we have improved. In response, I made an attempt to have you see things from another perspective; have we improved or have other circumstances aided our course?

If we looked at the games we have played, you'd see that the only impressive result we posed was that 3 nil victory against Sheffield United at a point they were still struggling with form. The other top team we played, Spurs, we drew...The other games are games we should easily win so, what exactly is the hype about the team about?

Oasis007:
Pre-lockdown, ain't we severely ravaged vy Injuries as well?!

You guys are sounding like we have played very well in the past few games and have been unlucky but that's not the case so, don't have a go at those who are not happy with the state of things because they have every right to be angry.

Southampton and West Ham are games we should have won but we got only 2 points and that leaves us in a dicey position as approach the penultimate game of the season...

Oasis007:
Are we being fair enough with the Team's Criticisms?! Before Lockdown Arsenal was 9th on the Table while Burnley was 10th. A Match to go Arsenal is 10th while a lowly Club as Burnley is 9th.

Before Lockdown, Spurs under Mou was behind Sheffield - 7th, Today, they've swapped position (to 7th from 8th) on the Log. Same Sheffield that at a point was ahead of us pre-lockdown?!

Before Lockdown Wolves was 6th, today nothing has changed. Same as Chelsea FC - still 4th on the Log. United was 2 points ahead of Wolves and 3 points behind Chelsea. However fortune has changed, United have doubled the points lead on Wolves, while on par with Chelsea.

In Addition, Goals difference margin between United and Chelsea was just 2, while with Wolves was 7 Goals. Today we're leading both Chelsea and Wolves on Goals Deference by 15 Goals.

Before Lockdown, Manchester United was 5th and 8 points behind 3rd placed Team, Leicester, with also a difference of 16 Goals margin. Today, United is 3rd, a point ahead, and 16 Goals difference cancelled.

Seem we're asking for too much, thus we could not see the success of the Team.

Leicester City are severely ravaged by injuries at this point in time. I doubt if we would have been able to catch up with them had they not been so unlucky.

Let's just wait for Sunday first...

handelex:
Seems like across our backline, each one of them lacks atleast one essential skill required for top level football. Shaw can't cross and find a man for shit, Bissaka is always dribbling and falling, Maguire moves like a Cruise ship, Lindelof seems to get bullied everytime... I don't know, just my contemplation.

Guy, I am seriously tired...

KingAlabi:
......and you just mentioned shaw.
I give up on this thread.
so Shaw doesn't offer anything attacking wise like Robertson?

Abeg you no know ball, at all!!

You are a clown...How many times have we seen Shaw released down the wing yet his delivery hits the first man? If you think Shaw offers close to what you can get from Robertson then it's obvious you do not want the progress of our club and that's if you're a Manchester United fan and not an imposter...

elampiro:
Na Pogba make you want to talk. We all knew his weakness. But McTominay and Fred do press for the ball.

Our team play is disjointed, we don't defend and press as a unit...

I hope you watched the role Robertson and TAA played in the destruction of Chelsea yesterday? That's what modern elite wing backs do and not what we get from Shaw and Wan-Bissaka. I don't need to talk about their midfielders and CBs who push high up the pitch to make the field compact.

MRTA7:
I believe a better coach can do a lot more with Rashford and Martial. Say what you want but their goal output this season is impressive enough. This is Martial's first full season playing as a 9 in his career.

Well, that Martial line was a pot shot at him for always having a go at Martial even when Rashford has been s.hit...

Apart from that PSG when we were still caught up in the new coach syndrome, a period where all the players want to impress, have we won any high pressure game? If I want to stretch it, I'll even say that second leg win at the Parc De Prince came because we weren't under any pressure to progress...

Don't respond by saying the players ought to motivate themselves because if it were so, Bayern wouldn't have been struggling before the appointment of the present coach and Barcelona wouldn't need a coach just like Juventus should be beating teams week in, week out in the Serie A...Ole is not good enough for a club like Manchester United, he just doesn't have it in him...

Yesterday, at 1vs 1, Rashford was trying to pull fancy tricks...

Expert17, I saw your post where you said we need a better CF than Martial and to be honest, I agree with you but that will mean Martial takes the LWF position and Rashford dropped to the bench...

The only good thing we have going for us is that Wolves have good reason to turn up all guns blazing at Stamford Bridge and also, Leicester's injury woes...

eph12:
Sometimes it looks like our forwards wants to press but they drop off probably due to lack of supporting cast. Like you said we need everyone to contribute to the press. Watching our games, you just see too many holes opponents can pick from. I wonder how the coach is not seeing this

If I talk now, Elampiro will come here and tell you about Liverpool forwards as if we are watching a different Liverpool team...

Expert17:
If we suggest striker,. You will hear we have Martial....WTF

Just like we need improvement in our wings...

MRTA7:
Its funny how we can get 3 points today and still miss out on Top 4 if we lose to Leicester but 2 draws those 2 matches would guarantee is top 4.

Well, we need to win today with a good margin just so we can afford a narrow loss vs Leicester City...

Anything less than 3pts will see me overthrow nani as the driver of the "OleOut bandwagon...We have failed one too many times when we had the chances to leapfrog either or both of Chelsea/Leicester City, no excuses today...

handelex:
I humbly disagree.

Are you waiting for when we lose the UCL final or an important final?

We have had ample chances to move ahead of Chelsea and Leicester but each time, we bottle our chances...West Ham will be the last chance for Ole and the team to redeem themselves before me...Anything less than a victory against West Ham will be a disaster...