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raumdeuter:
Yaya was so important that he was shifted from DM to CB and later traded off like a torn cloth. Replaced by a 20yr old rookie

He came to EPL and became a legend

See another Opata yarn...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/5373569/Manchester-United-v-Barcelona-Yaya-Toure-is-Barcas-unlikely-defender.html

Ozil is now second rate...lol
Di Maria that BEASTED in a UCL is now second rate...
Yaya Toure is also second rate...
Costa too is second rate...
Airmark abeg bookmark all this opata yarns oh! It will come handy soon.

raumdeuter:
Costa was an attacker, was he ever top scorer in La Liga?

The elite La Liga players of recent years are Bale, Ronaldo Griezman, Messi Neymar Xavi Iniesta, Suarez, Ramos These are the elite La Liga players of the past decade they will not leave for EPL

rather its the Silvas, Ozil DiMaria, Alexis, Costa, Fabregas Mata Michu that come to the EPL to roughshod over the weaker and less skilled players there

Cortouis and DDG were the best keepers in the EPL and suddenly started getting linked to La Liga but when EPL will take its was Kepa from Bilbao a 30M keeper that they paid 70M for

Hazard became EPL best player and has been begging people in Spain to come for him

Many pundits still believe that if Costa was not injured, Atletico would have won that final, he was heads and shoulder their best player...Yaya?

raumdeuter:
What has Coutinho done in La Liga?

Suarez top scorer and best player, Ronaldo top scorer and best player, Bale best player, Henry top scorer and best player Nistelrooy top scorer

Fill the same for Costa, Silva, Aguero, Alexis, Ozil DiMaria etc for their La Liga career

Di Maria beasted a UCL final, Ozil was the highest assister in LA Liga, Costa dragged Atletico to the UCL final...
Sir, I am trying to make this thing easy hence I am dropping some of the terms you invented or are they no more accepted?

raumdeuter:
What did they achieve individually in La Liga?

Marcelo must be second rate then, Coutinho too, Kroos must be second rate. Don't even talk about UCL cos Toure has won it as well as LA Liga.
Your argument sef dey tire person, wasn't it Costa who DRAGGED Atletico to the UCL final?
Isn't it Yaya who played out of position yet BEASTED a UCL final?

raumdeuter:
Kane was top scorer in EPL for 2 seasons, How many of those who came to EPL have been top scorers in Spain

But I can tell you Ronaldo Henry Suarez have been top scorers.
Suarez played for Liverpool yet he was not second rate

What did Aguero Silva Yaya Costa achieve individually in Spain?

Were they best player, top scorer, best midfielders or what?

Was Yaya Toure and Costa second rate?

raumdeuter:
They let those players become something before going to the La Liga to prove themselves

When was the last time you saw the La liga best player come to play in EPL

Unlike EPL where its the best players that get cherry picked by the La liga seniors

It's like saying Kane is second rate because he plays for Spurs...David Silva, Aguero, Yaya and Costa were hardly second rate players.
Talking about second rate, it was Forlan that moved from Manchester United bench to Spain where he dominated the league.

randomperson:
What were Aguero's or Silva's achievements in LA liga before they left? That's what matters

You no see Costa there abi?
Who was Atletico's best player then?
At Valencia, you had Villa and Silva, 8f Villa had ended up in the EPL and not Barca, you'd be here telling us he was a second rate player.

randomperson:
A 30 year old is not past it... Messi, Ronaldo, modric, Ramos, Marcelo, Silva, Aguero, Suarez are all over 30 and they are d best players in the world today

But Costa, Silva, Aguero etc were too young at their early to mid twenties and all second tier players...Amala don suffer for your hand.

randomperson:
You're just proving my point... Henry was basically a King in d EPL for many years but he had to move to Spain to win d champions league... And he was even pushed to the wing in order to accommodate Messi and eto'o in d center...

And players like Silva, de gea and toure were just coming up... they were not tier one players

So, I can say Henry, Nistelrooy and Beckham were past it when they moved to La Liga? If Aguero and the likes were youngsters then it's not out of point to say Nistelrooy was past it.

randomperson:
This is your argument as to why EPL is the best league in the world? You know best means quality right, not popularity..

When it comes to trophies in UCL and Europa, LA liga dwarfs England. in head to head, epl is eviscerated by LA liga

The best players in England end up in Spain... Henry, Beckham, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo... And second tier players in LA liga move to EPL and take over Costa, Silva, Aguero, De gea, Yaya Toure and a host of others...

LA liga has produced many more world bests.

So how exactly is epl better than LA liga...

And don't bring competitiveness oo because if it's that one, Nigerian League is the best in the world

When you remember Becks, which team comes to your mind? Nistelrooy? Henry?
Only Ronaldo left at his peak.
And how is Costa second tier? Is it that every other player not in Barca and Madrid are second tier players?
Aguero, Silva, De Gea, Yaya Toure etal were amongst the best in their respective teams...

Happy birthday dopeJemi...More grace bro.

Eruditor:
Disgraced terribly, when I admitted I misstyped to add home points and away points when I only meant away points.

I like it how when you guys are cornered you create figments and just put it down for the other choristers to sing along.

I understand that your illogic was exposed but you must save face somehow. Good try.

Okay.

jelel6:
The clause is almost impossible to consider. Used as a smokescreen to tell us absolute rubbish.

Why don't you remind us when Pogba has actually played to his full potential?
There are a lot of players with the potential to be the best. In England, I can name ten midfielders who are playing better than Pogba, and I can name 5 midfielders who are better players than Pogba. Potential or not,

Name them please, let me oblige you for once.
For potential, see the world cup...nuff said.

Eruditor:
0 sense made.

Not everyone who wins a league disgraced the league in the process.

One team was 19pts ahead of the other. The other team was 9pts ahead.

One team won the league with 5 games to spare. The other team won the league with 1 game to spare.

One team had 77+ goals or so..the next team had 20 or 30+ compared to Mou's team having 89 GD compared to barca having 85.

One team scored the most and conceded the least. In fact had the best record in almost everything (as per that one season compared to everyone else). The other team did not.

The only similar achievements between both teams was 100pts, number of wins and the record goals scored. Problem is, the very next season someone else achieved the wins and points haul.

How does anyone with a straight face now claim that RM team disgraced the league when someone else was virtually neck and neck with them and even readily surpassed them the following season?

And if a record of 100points is being discussed the correct way to table the record is to say 2 people in La Liga have done that.

It is common-sense but this is a Chelsea thread so no surprises if some Chelsea fans and apologists don't have sense.

In one breath, La Liga is easy. It is a 2-horse race. In another breath, they compare a La Liga record to EPL and don't see that they are indirectly saying anyone who can replicate a La Liga record in the EPL has disgraced the so-called most competitive league in the world.

LMAOO.

You have started again with records, same records you dropped here and was disgraced terribly.
A record is a record, this rubbish you're spewing is undigested amala.

Khaytunechi:
Well you are correct,, but when you look at the other options at Madrid at the time in comparison to what we have at United now I don't think we can afford the luxury of binning Lingod that fast.. Have in mind also that some of our boys',, especially Martial's performance drops after having a long run of games in the starting 11..

I only suggested that he can be a squad player but not starting 11 material.
Even Messi's performance will drop will the kind of drab football on show with Mou at the helm of affairs.

raumdeuter:
What you call conjectures are pattern analysis,

Madrid usually do not sign all these type of developmental players , post la decima they slowed down and started getting interested in cheaper younger players

You buy to improve your squad, right now, the if they're gonna replace Benzema, they'd be looking at Lewandowski (age factor might count against him), Kane, Icardi etc of the aforementioned players, none will cost less than a 150m and if their clubs were ever willing to sell, trust PSG, Chelsea, United etc to match Madrid's bid and most likely top it thus they're looking for more viable alternatives that's why their sniffing around South America looking for the next best talent.
Name one player you think Madrid will decide to get and will get the player unchallenged like in the past? Madrid sef know say things don change...
They were interested in Pogba, Manchester United came in and offered more, they looked at Mbappe but PSG cmae in an offered ridiculous amount for his signature. The only way Madrid will get a top player now without other clubs matching their bid or even out bidding them is if the player on his part insist it must be Madrid.

Khaytunechi:
He should be one of our top performers against the bigguns these past two years..

Callejon was doing quite well for Madrid but he was moved on not because he was bad but because they knew that he wasn't up to the level they expected of their starting player.

raumdeuter:
WHy do you think they backtracked?

Do you think if they haven't won la decima they would have backtracked and be buying vicinius as their main summer signing?
Do you think Madrid will not have la decima and be signing Mariano, Cebbalos and co when KDB, Kane Neymar are around?

Conjectures sir...

raumdeuter:
If Madrid was still in the hunt for Le decima, they would have bought any player they want to buy

KdB Kane, Neymar are not harder to buy now than Figo, Zidane Ronaldo etc

So you think a club who dropped 56M to buy off their rivals best player almost 20yrs ago will have a problem paying over 200M if they need?
A club who paid 65M in 2001 will have a problem paying for who they need?
A club who had Ronaldo Morientes Raul still didn't think twice before Adding signing Owen will now think of what?

Did they not have Figo before buying Beckham for the right wing?

Madrid is still the favourite destination for many players and if a club like Liverpool, can afford to sign a keeper for 70M you now think its Madrid that wont?

Imagine Madrid hunting for the next best thing from South America, pre la decima, how many times did they bother with South America when they can buy Europe tested and trusted now Madrid is buying Vicinius and other 18yr olds

If Madrid goes hungry for 5yrs and don't win, Anyone and every good player available becomes a target.

Madrid went 3 seasons without a major signing when we don hear that one last? Some of the recent seasons they even went into the season without buying anyone

When Barcelona needed a title they assembled MSN. Bought Suarez the best player in the EPL, Bought Neymar.

When Bayern wanted to win the CL there was a certain desperation from the players and management especially after the 2012 CL final loss,

Lol as if Newcastle didn't have the spending power before or Blackburn...Madrid's case though different in the sense that they're still winning but they have backtracked in terms of splashing the cash for the past few years.
If they ever decide to come out all guns blazing, they'd have it in the back of their minds that PSG, Man City, Manchester United and Chelsea are around and can go toe to toe with them.

ChristineC:
his positioning is very good and he scores really vital goals when he's in the mood. I think he'll fit in fine.

For games against the small teams, yes but when we are up against the big guns where individual quality is sometimes all you need to decide a game, I don't fancy him starting.

elampiro:
So good that we did not sacrifice Pogba for Mourinho.

I always of the opinion that we shouldn't judge any of our players until Mou is out of the club, the negative vibes around Mou is enough to bring a team down...
I like the fact that OGS is giving all the players the opportunity to impress just so when he decides to bin any of them, nobody will complain.

geez18:
even playing to his potential doesn't make him the best! This English people and their propagandas

Hope you have followed Pogba well enough to know that he has more than he has shown in the United jersey in his locker, if Pogba keeps his head down and play to his potential then he can reach and breaks new heights.

ChristineC:
What are the chances of Memphis Depay re-signing? With the interchangeable front three this manager is trying to structure,

Martial - Sanchez - Rashford

or

Memphis - Martial - Lingard

They lack height but..
skill, pace, long-range shooting, set-piece and eye for goal anyone?

Martial - Sanchez - Rashford...
Martial - Depay - Sanchez...
Lingard has to settle for a role in the squad, he isn't technical enough to play fluid football.

raumdeuter:
5yrs before La Decima, Madrid broke the world record for Ronaldo Kaka and Bale. when was the last time Madrid spent like that. Why was the days of Galacticos long gone? You think if Madrid still hasnt won the CL till date they won't be buying furiously?
Why do you think Madrid is pushing Asensio, Vasquez Ceballos Mariano and other young inexperienced players into the team? If they hadnt won la decima you can be assure that instead of Asensio Mariano Vazquez it will be Lewandoski, Neymar, and any star they see

You are really funny if you think because other teams have money Madrid wont spend and it shows you are new to this European football thing

In the early 2000 when the Galacticos policy started you thought only Madrid had money? Lazio was rich and breaking world record, Inter was rich and breaking world records, Barcelona was rich, Man utd was rich, Milan was rich Yet did that stop Madrid?

How can Madrid point at Figo and get him, how did they point at Zidane and get him, How did they point at Ronaldo and get him. Are these players more difficult to get than Neymar?

Madrid can just go to Barcelona and get Figo but they cannot go to PSG and get Neymar? you think Neymar is harder to get in 2018 than Figo in 2000?

Its how things work, Most coaches will tell you its hard finding motivation after breaking a barrier. They can try but will always notice a significant drop in desire

You guys at Bayern don't have a player good enough to warrant an offensive from one of this oil money driven clubs so you won't understand the difference between the spending power of then Lazio, Man Utd, Juve, Milan to the present day PSG, Man City, Chelsea. Even Man Utd is more willing to spend now, see Liverpool, Everton are buying players for 50m not one but 2.
Madrid can't harass clubs like they use to, in times past, De Gea would've been a Madrid players for the past 3 years, they'd be looking at KDB, Kane etc with intent on getting them but no, they know Levy will price Kane at over 200m, City won't even entertain a conversation with KDB up for discussion, PSG will rebuff any move for Neymar and respond with an audacious move for Marcelo and Benz...
The clubs who are willing to sell will do so for an outrageous fee knowing too well they won't be short of suitors, if Madrid for instance offers 150m for Kane, trust me, PSG, Chelsea, Man City will equal their offer and even top it with some extra 20m. It's no wonder Madrid are hunting for the next best thing from South America.
If this excuse you are dropping first for Man City and now Madrid is valid as you want to have us believe, why then did Barca do away with Enrique, why was your fellow Bayern fan A.40 displeased with Pep's performance in Europe afterall you guys had won the UCL a year before he arrived? You guys should have been contented with semis since after winning the UCL you are now permitted to go on a 10year barren run in a bid to find motivation to win again.
Why are you angry with Kovac, shey you guys have won enough Bundesliga, you guys can as well finish 4th or maybe the players are not motivated to win the league any more, then the problem isn't Kovac, right?

Comprehension is a big problem here. He only said when Pogba plays to his potential then he is just about the best in the league and world, there's a clause there that explicitly qualifies him to be the best but no, you guys are already misrepresenting his line of thought.

raumdeuter:
Madrids greatest motivation was to win La decima, After that season they were just doing it for fun, Even though their lackadaisical approach was even too much for their competition. If Anthony Joshua fights drunk with one hand tied he will still beat 70% of the world

Why do you think Madrid has not entered the market furiously like everyone knew they were capable of in the past 4 yrs? A team capable of signing world stars for fun. Who was the last Galactico Madrid signed, Now compare them to the Madrid you used to know

Post la decima, is this the type of Madrid transfers the football world was seeing pre la decima?

All these things are simple if you take time to reason through it, Just because Dayo posted something, some people always feel compelled to oppose it

They didn't spend because they had no need to and the days of galacticos is long gone, other clubs have caught up with them thus can comfortably offer just as much if not more for players, it has nothing to do with lack of ambition. Do you really expect Madrid to point at Neymar and get him just cos they're Madrid? Hell naw!
The first paragraph is laughable, it is similar to your coefficient excuse for the rubbish performance of Bundesliga clubs in Europe.
I had to try to put up a response even though what you wrote doesn't really make sense to me.

Unlimited22:
Kyle Walker-Peters garnered three assists in 35 minutes in Spurs last match. Mesut Ozil has had one all season.

Spurs just keep developing quality full backs.

The rubbish you get to read here is one too many...
Imagine Dayo saying City are not motivated to win the league after winning it last season, if this excuse held sway then Madrid can be excused from participating in the UCL or for serving their fans drab performances going forward since they have won it thrice at a go.

And look at that other guy trying so hard to spin a straight forward comment. Dayo said Pep has disgraced the EPL by winning it and in the process breaking some records...Couple of guys in response asked if Mou also disgraced LA Liga by winning it with records points and most goals? Straight forward question oh! But the one that thinks himself as knowledgeable started his work as defender of the defenseless...

Special praise goes out to that folks that was careful enough to burst his lies in support of Pep...

Leyqute:
Any chance of a diamond midfield here?

Most likely, I think we will see Pogba attacking more from the LCM and Lingard to the right with Martial as the CAM.
Depending on the scoreline, we might just see Gomes strutting his stuff today.

SIRcumalot:
Make ukaku do come back from him holiday.
Rashidi go thief him shirt finish.

The both of them are not guaranteed starters, the next six months is like an interview for them...Rashford for now seems better suited to the kind of game we crave.

Leyqute:
Lampiro it's a wee bit late to join the #MourinhoOut train. Mourinho is out already, train don reach las bustop.

Next time, him go enter train sit down before e start to move.